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On calling Serena Williams the best female tennis player in the world
Garcia-Navarro: We're talking about male players but there is of course wonderful female players. Let's talk about Serena Williams. You say she is the best female player in the world in the book.
McEnroe: Best female player ever — no question.
Garcia-Navarro: Some wouldn't qualify it, some would say she's the best player in the world. Why qualify it?
McEnroe: Oh! Uh, she's not, you mean, the best player in the world, period?
Garcia-Navarro: Yeah, the best tennis player in the world. You know, why say female player?
McEnroe: Well because if she was in, if she played the men's circuit she'd be like 700 in the world.
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John McEnroe. The Trump of the tennis world ;D
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and Rhonda Rousey can beat Floyd Mayweather Jr ::)
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The dumb biatch as been so conditioned by political correctness that she has to ask why someone who plays in a restricted class isn't considered the best among everyone.
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On calling Serena Williams the best female tennis player in the world
Garcia-Navarro: We're talking about male players but there is of course wonderful female players. Let's talk about Serena Williams. You say she is the best female player in the world in the book.
McEnroe: Best female player ever — no question.
Garcia-Navarro: Some wouldn't qualify it, some would say she's the best player in the world. Why qualify it?
McEnroe: Oh! Uh, she's not, you mean, the best player in the world, period?
Garcia-Navarro: Yeah, the best tennis player in the world. You know, why say female player?
McEnroe: Well because if she was in, if she played the men's circuit she'd be like 700 in the world.
He made an unwarranted sexist remark that is dismissive of her accomplishments in tennis. Its an asshole statement and he's going to be treated like the asshole he is
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He made an unwarranted sexist remark that is dismissive of her accomplishments in tennis. Its an asshole statement and he's going to be treated like the asshole he is
She asked him the question dumbass. He didn't bring it up. It's amazing how your every fucking instinct is wrong. You should go the George Costanza route and do the opposite.
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He made an unwarranted sexist remark that is dismissive of her accomplishments in women's tennis. Its an asshole statement and he's going to be treated like the asshole he is
I know you're trolling, but faxed.
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The jokes on him. She is really a man that wears a wig and skirt.
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and Rhonda Rousey can beat Floyd Mayweather Jr ::)
How to... beat both Williams sisters in one afternoon
It was the 1998 Australian Open and the Williams sisters, Venus and Serena, had seen some of the male players practising. On the basis of what they saw, they were convinced that they could beat a man ranked around 200 in the world and wanted to set up a game. At the time I was ranked 203 so the men's tour manager mentioned the possibility of a challenge to me, thinking that I was the perfect candidate. I didn't take much persuading, it seemed like a fun thing to do.
https://www.theguardian.com/observer/osm/story/0,,543962,00.html
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He made an unwarranted sexist remark that is dismissive of her accomplishments in tennis. Its an asshole statement and he's going to be treated like the asshole he is
Fact - she is a woman & plays against other women - best woman player in the world.
Not the best overall tennis player in the world.
To be the overall best she would have to Beat the men.
What's so sexist & difficult to understand about that.
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How to... beat both Williams sisters in one afternoon
It was the 1998 Australian Open and the Williams sisters, Venus and Serena, had seen some of the male players practising. On the basis of what they saw, they were convinced that they could beat a man ranked around 200 in the world and wanted to set up a game. At the time I was ranked 203 so the men's tour manager mentioned the possibility of a challenge to me, thinking that I was the perfect candidate. I didn't take much persuading, it seemed like a fun thing to do.
https://www.theguardian.com/observer/osm/story/0,,543962,00.html
Ha ha - Yes she is the best tennis player in the world .... ::) Not.
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Fact - she is a woman & plays against other women - best woman player in the world.
Not the best overall tennis player in the world.
To be the overall best she would have to Beat the men.
What's so sexist & difficult to understand about that.
Nothing, unless your mind has been so conditioned by political correctness that you don't see what's staring you square in the eyes.
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He made an unwarranted sexist remark that is dismissive of her accomplishments in tennis. Its an asshole statement and he's going to be treated like the asshole he is
No it wasn't and how did he dismiss her accomplishments when he called her the best female player? Men are better overall at tennis than women that's fact not a sexist remark.
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No it wasn't and how did he dismiss her accomplishments when he called her the best female player? Men are better overall at tennis than women that's fact not a sexist remark.
This.
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Are people deliberately stupid? A professional male tennis player is a whole different ball game to a pro female. If it wasn't the case it would be an open class across the board.
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Are people deliberately stupid? A professional male tennis player is a whole different ball game to a pro female. If it wasn't the case it would be an open class across the board.
She has a fucking masters degree:
Garcia-Navarro studied international relations at Georgetown University and later obtained a Master's degree in journalism at the City University London
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She has a fucking masters degree:
Garcia-Navarro studied international relations at Georgetown University and later obtained a Master's degree in journalism at the City University London
OK so yep she's stupid.
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Why qualify it? Because women have their own fucking leagues. Take those away and see how many women can make it to the pinnical leagues of their chosen sport.
Jesus christ... are people this dumb?
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He made an unwarranted sexist remark that is dismissive of her accomplishments in tennis. Its an asshole statement and he's going to be treated like the asshole he is
I am amazed you can even find your mouth to put food in it. God you're dumb.
in other new Serena can easily prove him wrong.. set up a match with the player ranked 699 ;D
of course she won't, cus she'll get wrecked.
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What's even more insane is that they're asking McEnroe to apologize when it was the interviewer who not only brought up the topic but pressed the issue.
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A lot of the media outlets are making it worse then it is...editing out him being asked and making it sound like he brought it up without being prompted.
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A lot of the media outlets are making it worse then it is...editing out him being asked and making it sound like he brought it up without being prompted.
That's why I looked up the transcript. I don't trust these motherfuckers for a second.
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a player ranked 203 un the world beat both the sisters in the same afternoon in matches and he wasnt even trying.
https://www.theguardian.com/observer/osm/story/0,,543962,00.html
oops just seen the pos above
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The hate is strong. She would be top 200 or so easy.
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and Rhonda Rousey can beat Floyd Mayweather Jr ::)
This.
Guys men and women are different.
Vince you should know this by now.
Is it an insult to say Dirk Nowitski is the best white player in the NBA? Or best internationally born player?
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So he answers a question honestly and yet has to apologise for stating FACT, it's not even an opinion.
What's even more insane is that they're asking McEnroe to apologize when it was the interviewer who not only brought up the topic but pressed the issue.
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The hate is strong. She would be top 200 or so easy.
I have no doubt that you're more qualified to make that determination than a three-time Wimbledon winner.
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I have no doubt that you're more qualified to make that determination than a three-time Wimbledon winner.
So only if you do, only can you have aOpinion ?
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So only if you do, only can you have aOpinion ?
We get it, you're a liberal and you're going to defend the PC narrative to the end.
Do you do anything other than nitpick? It's not even about tennis it's about PC bullshit. That the woman would ask something so obviously ridiculous and be serious about it
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LMAO, he's not afraid to tell the truth.
Fark the PC police and the social justice warriors (AKA - unemployed trouble makers).
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too know whether he was insulting her we need to examine what he said.
he said she would beat ranked 700
maybe thats not accurate. maybe she's top 200 ? if so that IS insulting, if he on purpose try to downplay her skillset.
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On calling Serena Williams the best female tennis player in the world
Garcia-Navarro: We're talking about male players but there is of course wonderful female players. Let's talk about Serena Williams. You say she is the best female player in the world in the book.
McEnroe: Best female player ever — no question.
Garcia-Navarro: Some wouldn't qualify it, some would say she's the best player in the world. Why qualify it?
McEnroe: Oh! Uh, she's not, you mean, the best player in the world, period?
Garcia-Navarro: Yeah, the best tennis player in the world. You know, why say female player?
McEnroe: Well because if she was in, if she played the men's circuit she'd be like 700 in the world.
McEnroe always seemed like a crybaby to mean when watching him play when I was in like grade school or something but nowadays he seems like a alright dude. I trained a pro tennis coach about a year & a half or two. & a half years ago who said McEnroe would still wipe the court with guys in the top-10 if not top-5 but his body couldn't sustain playing year round.. We were talking about that "legends" tennis tour were McEnroe would play against other former top guys like Michael Chang and Agassi and Sampras and all them. I think I had mentioned I was surprised to see Andy Roddick on there because I thought he was still playing and still pretty young? I thought that was the guy anyways... That was pretty high praise from that coach and kinda changed my opinion of McEnroe.
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"How to... beat both Williams sisters in one afternoon" ,a 2001 article, by the legendary Karsten Brach,from The Guardian ,UK. I think with at around the 400 men's rank Serena might be competitive,but who knows. I suspect she wouldn't be near top 200.
"Both sisters are great tennis players and hit the ball extremely well. However, if you've been playing on the men's tour there are certain shots you can play that are going to put them in difficulty. Try and put a lot spin on the ball - I was hitting the ball with a degree of spin they don't face week-in, week-out. Another key is to chase down every shot. In our match, they were putting shots into the corners that on the women's tour would be winners but I was able to return them.
In the end I won, but neither myself, nor Venus or Serena took the game too seriously - we were just having a bit of fun.
Apparently, after the game, Serena and Venus immediately told the press they wanted to challenge a male player again. This time they revised the ranking of the man they wanted to face, to 350 in the world.I informed the journalist who told me this that in the next week I was set to lose a lot of ATP points and drop down to 350 in the rankings. I told him that if Venus and Serena waited just one week they could challenge me all over again!"
https://www.theguardian.com/observer/osm/story/0,,543962,00.html (https://www.theguardian.com/observer/osm/story/0,,543962,00.html)
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That's why I looked up the transcript. I don't trust these motherfuckers for a second.
Exactly. Good habit to pick up for anyone (in the small percentage) who'd rather not BS around.
Only a fucking fool these days would take their messages from this media.
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unless its posted on getbig its fake news
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She asked him the question dumbass. He didn't bring it up. It's amazing how your every fucking instinct is wrong. You should go the George Costanza route and do the opposite.
And he should have not taken the bait...thats why Serena responded that she respects and loves John because even she knew he got played. But at the same time, he needs to not fall into trap doors
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too know whether he was insulting her we need to examine what he said.
he said she would beat ranked 700
maybe thats not accurate. maybe she's top 200 ? if so that IS insulting, if he on purpose try to downplay her skillset.
Since you can't prove it one way or the other, you just have to take him at face value. The bottom line is that she asked him a question for which she didn't want to hear the answer and she pressed him on it, and when finally gave her the answer, She and the rest of the piece of shit mainstream media can't handle it.
The same thing happened a few days ago when Trump said he didn't want a poor person running the economy. A bunch of liberal media talking heads got a bug up their ass about it. Yeah, why would we want a genius billionaire businessman like Wilbur Ross as commerce secretary when we can have a New Orleans Dindu that robs tourists, at the position.
At this point, I don't give a shit if Trump gets anything accomplished during his presidency as long as this type of stupidity is treated with laughter.
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And he should have not taken the bait...thats why Serena responded that she respects and loves John because even she knew he got played. But at the same time, he needs to not fall into trap doors
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And he should have not taken the bait...thats why Serena responded that she respects and loves John because even she knew he got played. But at the same time, he needs to not fall into trap doors
Perhaps he should have offered to use his connections to set something up, to discover the truth about what the "reporter" or whatever she is, seems to want to believe.
He walked right into it, instead, though. Good point.
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McEnroe always seemed like a crybaby to mean when watching him play when I was in like grade school or something but nowadays he seems like a alright dude. I trained a pro tennis coach about a year & a half or two. & a half years ago who said McEnroe would still wipe the court with guys in the top-10 if not top-5 but his body couldn't sustain playing year round.. We were talking about that "legends" tennis tour were McEnroe would play against other former top guys like Michael Chang and Agassi and Sampras and all them. I think I had mentioned I was surprised to see Andy Roddick on there because I thought he was still playing and still pretty young? I thought that was the guy anyways... That was pretty high praise from that coach and kinda changed my opinion of McEnroe.
you didnt need to say, we all knew you did.
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Serena came out and basically backed McEnroe and said men's and women's tennis are basically two different sports. Serena gets schooled by college men's players in practice who go 3/4 speed. Men's and women's tennis is equal to women's pro softball and major league baseball. Serena wouldn't be ranked 500 or 700 in men's tennis. She never would have been able to turn pro in the first place.
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lets not forget that tennis is fukkin gay both male and women
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^ Nice to see you, AS
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Serena came out and basically backed McEnroe and said men's and women's tennis are basically two different sports. Serena gets schooled by college men's players in practice who go 3/4 speed. Men's and women's tennis is equal to women's pro softball and major league baseball. Serena wouldn't be ranked 500 or 700 in men's tennis. She never would have been able to turn pro in the first place.
Many years ago I was a personal trainer in a large health club that had a tennis court. Martina Navratilova used to occasionally come there to practice. At the time, she was easily the best female tennis player in the world. She would often play against men. I found out that they were college players as you said. These guys would easily blow serves by her all the time.
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The crazy thing is that McEnroe actually WAS being politically correct.
There are elite HIGH SCHOOL boys that could beat either one of those Williams negroes on a good day. Period.
This nonsense of comparing women to men in athletics has got to stop.
The whole damn world is going fucking insane.
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Many years ago I was a personal trainer in a large health club that had a tennis court. Martina Navratilova used to occasionally come there to practice. At the time, she was easily the best female tennis player in the world. She would often play against men. I found out that they were college players as you said. These guys would easily blow serves by her all the time.
did you ever see her penisoris in the showers?
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The crazy thing is that McEnroe actually WAS being politically correct.
There are elite HIGH SCHOOL boys that could beat either one of those Williams negroes on a good day. Period.
This nonsense of comparing women to men in athletics has got to stop.
The whole damn world is going fucking insane.
World has gone fucking nuts.
Too god damn many Leftists/ politically correct/ can't say this can't say that Mamby Pamby
Fcuking Emotionaly Unstable/ Weak as Piss People Looking to Be offended by anything.
Especially the Truth.
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Yep and why the world has become a platform for the youth of today to become technology reliant emo pussies.
World has gone fucking nuts.
Too god damn many Leftists/ politically correct/ can't say this can't say that Mamby Pamby
Fcuking Emotionaly Unstable/ Weak as Piss People Looking to Be offended by anything.
Especially the Truth.
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Serena in her prime couldn't touch Agassi in his.
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smack-n-blow
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too know whether he was insulting her we need to examine what he said.
he said she would beat ranked 700
maybe thats not accurate. maybe she's top 200 ? if so that IS insulting, if he on purpose try to downplay her skillset.
Truth? That is just his opinion? You didn't answer the question.
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It's not even funny how easily she'd get destroyed,
Factor in those sisters are genetic freaks in women's tennis, imagine how easily the average female pro would look like an amateur against a male pro
Serena in her prime couldn't touch Agassi in his.
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Truth? That is just his opinion? You didn't answer the question.
if someone asks "if she the best period"
you can answer "no, i dont think she could beat hte top male players"
or someone can be a dick about it and answer "haha she cant even beat a 12 year old!"
that might be a fact, but you can state a fact without being a dick about it.
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if someone asks "if she the best period"
you can answer "no, i dont think she could beat hte top male players"
or someone can be a dick about it and answer "haha she cant even beat a 12 year old!"
that might be a fact, but you can state a fact without being a dick about it.
So you're saying McEnroe is a dick but totally right at the same time? But anyone else with an opinion is wrong? Got it.
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So you're saying McEnroe is a dick but totally right at the same time? But anyone else with an opinion is wrong? Got it.
the topic is he's being criticized for telling the truth.
first off - is he telling the truth? that has not been established.
second - is he being criticized for telling the truth? we dont know that either. maybe he's being criticized for being a dick.
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Testing waters for a modern Billie Jean King Bobby Riggs match...seeing what buzz is like to see if match could make money. We're playing along like good little media pawns. Guarantee they'll be talking about Mcenroe Serena match soon. Less subtle than the wwe.
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He made an unwarranted sexist remark that is dismissive of her accomplishments in tennis. Its an asshole statement and he's going to be treated like the asshole he is
Come on - you got to be kidding.
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Am I offended by what he said? No
Do I care? No.
However, he could have easily said something like "she is the best female player in the world. However, she is not the best overall player because she is clearly not better than many of the men."
The 700th comment was a snide dig, and although it may be the truth, it didn't need to be said. The truth can sometimes not be said. Do you all always tell the truth? No.
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Serena in her prime couldn't touch Agassi in his.
She'd try to but he'd be way too quick. He'd jump over the net. Run around the umpire's chair. "Get that thing away from me! Steffi, halp!"
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Am I offended by what he said? No
Do I care? No.
However, he could have easily said something like "she is the best female player in the world. However, she is not the best overall player because she is clearly not better than many of the men."
The 700th comment was a snide dig, and although it may be the truth, it didn't need to be said. The truth can sometimes not be said. Do you all always tell the truth? No.
How about that the female interviewer is a fucking asshole for putting him in a position where he had no choice but to point out that men are better tennis players than women? Does she really not know why Serena is not the best tennis player in the world? Is she so fucking stupid that she doesn't know that there's a separate division for women because the top women could not hang with the top men?
"Garcia-Navarro: Yeah, the best tennis player in the world. You know, why say female player?"
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Did he really apologize for this nothingness?
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How about that the female interviewer is a fucking asshole for putting him in a position where he had no choice but to point out that men are better tennis players than women? Does she really not know why Serena is not the best tennis player in the world? Is she so fucking stupid that she doesn't know that there's a separate division for women because the top women could not hang with the top men?
"Garcia-Navarro: Yeah, the best tennis player in the world. You know, why say female player?"
She's equally an idiot. However, her question did not necessarily have to dictate his comment. He could have easily said "no, she's not the best player in the world because there are many men better than her." That's getting the point across that men are better without the the 700th comment.
Again, I don't give a crap what he said, but the whole idea that he told the truth so it's okay is a dumb argument. Most ppl don't tell the 100% truth on a daily basis. We all filter ourselves.
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Did he really apologize for this nothingness?
They fucked with the wrong Irishman.
https://www.google.com/amp/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4645246/amp/John-McEnroe-won-t-apologize-Serena-Williams-comment.html
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I don't think it's out of bounds to say serena would lose to most male pros and that she has a bigger scrotum than mcenroe.
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They fucked with the wrong Irishman.
https://www.google.com/amp/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4645246/amp/John-McEnroe-won-t-apologize-Serena-Williams-comment.html
Good. He doesn't seem like the type to back down from something like that. Nothing wrong with what he said.
Man, just got done watching an all-female team in one of those Spartan races and can't believe the patronizing they were getting. Olympic level athletes actually and got last finishing behind teams with 2 men and 3 women/3 men and 2 women. Still they kept praising them on how well they were doing. Their phrase was they wanted to "prove that gender didn't matter". If it doesn't matter then allow an all male team......some of the men were also older in their 40's.
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I don't think it's out of bounds to say serena would lose to most male pros and that she has a bigger scrotum than mcenroe.
Damn, I missed that part of the interview.
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Good. He doesn't seem like the type to back down from something like that. Nothing wrong with what he said.
Man, just got done watching an all-female team in one of those Spartan races and can't believe the patronizing they were getting. Olympic level athletes actually and got last finishing behind teams with 2 men and 3 women/3 men and 2 women. Still they kept praising them on how well they were doing. Their phrase was they wanted to "prove that gender didn't matter". If it doesn't matter then allow an all male team......some of the men were also older in their 40's.
Mazrim, do you think if Goodrum wanted to, he could become a profession tennis player?
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Good. He doesn't seem like the type to back down from something like that. Nothing wrong with what he said.
Man, just got done watching an all-female team in one of those Spartan races and can't believe the patronizing they were getting. Olympic level athletes actually and got last finishing behind teams with 2 men and 3 women/3 men and 2 women. Still they kept praising them on how well they were doing. Their phrase was they wanted to "prove that gender didn't matter". If it doesn't matter then allow an all male team......some of the men were also older in their 40's.
This is a big reason why Trump won and why the mainstream media is done. People are tired of having their intelligence insulted like this.
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a player ranked 203 un the world beat both the sisters in the same afternoon in matches and he wasnt even trying.
https://www.theguardian.com/observer/osm/story/0,,543962,00.html
oops just seen the pos above
"Great minds..."
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There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with what he said. Good for him for not backing down.
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It's not even funny how easily she'd get destroyed,
Factor in those sisters are genetic freaks in women's tennis, imagine how easily the average female pro would look like an amateur against a male pro
Not all. Where Mcenroe screwed up was top 700. She would probably crack top 100.
Also, Male tennis matches best of 5. Females best of 3. (in Grand Slams)
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It's like comparing Iris Kyle to Dorian or Ronnie.
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The little social justice Warrior asked if you needed to qualify what he said by saying Serena was the best female player? Puck of course he did because that's who she plays against and that's who she is ranked against. Fucking idiots. When I start playing professional matches with men vs women and they start getting ranked men vs women then and only then will you not need to qualify a statement like that
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And he should have not taken the bait...thats why Serena responded that she respects and loves John because even she knew he got played. But at the same time, he needs to not fall into trap doors
So are you says this C ah girl was baiting him just to elicit a response that could get him in to trouble instead of really asking a meaningful question?
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I'd still eat the living hell out of her twat even at this stage of pregnancy. From the front or from the rear. Really makes no difference.
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There are a lot of tennis pros on getbig. I never knew.
Mac can say what he wants. Pros speak in terms of rankings as a level in the sport. Odds are he's extremely correct....you know since it's his whole life.
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Serena is pregnant...cant play Wimbledon...so they are setting up a battle of sexes match between Mcenroe and Serena...so she still gets paid. Media just playing you all. Wow...amazing...weeks before Wimbledon that serena cant play this all comes out.
And you will all tune in for a senior citizen vs a pregnant lady....just fucking puppets.....
And Serena and Mcenroe laugh all the way to the bank.
Trump already offered both Mcenroe and Serena ALOT of money for the matchup before he was President..this is called negotiating and building press interest.
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She's equally an idiot. However, her question did not necessarily have to dictate his comment. He could have easily said "no, she's not the best player in the world because there are many men better than her." That's getting the point across that men are better without the the 700th comment.
Again, I don't give a crap what he said, but the whole idea that he told the truth so it's okay is a dumb argument. Most ppl don't tell the 100% truth on a daily basis. We all filter ourselves.
Her question was insulting and degrading to HIS accomplishments and all male players. Massivley ignorant. Like asking who is better Navy Mike or Ronnie Coleman.
I haven't read to the end of the thread yet, but I want to congratulate everyone on this not devolving into racism.
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Am I offended by what he said? No
Do I care? No.
However, he could have easily said something like "she is the best female player in the world. However, she is not the best overall player because she is clearly not better than many of the men."
The 700th comment was a snide dig, and although it may be the truth, it didn't need to be said. The truth can sometimes not be said. Do you all always tell the truth? No.
Are you saying a fact that hurts someone's feelings should never be said so as to not offend?
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She asked him the question dumbass. He didn't bring it up. It's amazing how your every fucking instinct is wrong. You should go the George Costanza route and do the opposite.
It's because he is an idiot.
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On calling Serena Williams the best female tennis player in the world
Garcia-Navarro: We're talking about male players but there is of course wonderful female players. Let's talk about Serena Williams. You say she is the best female player in the world in the book.
McEnroe: Best female player ever — no question.
Garcia-Navarro: Some wouldn't qualify it, some would say she's the best player in the world. Why qualify it?
McEnroe: Oh! Uh, she's not, you mean, the best player in the world, period?
Garcia-Navarro: Yeah, the best tennis player in the world. You know, why say female player?
McEnroe: Well because if she was in, if she played the men's circuit she'd be like 700 in the world.
He is just being honest.Fuck pc bullshit.
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Her question was insulting and degrading to HIS accomplishments and all male players. Massivley ignorant. Like asking who is better Navy Mike or Ronnie Coleman.
I haven't read to the end of the thread yet, but I want to congratulate everyone on this not devolving into racism.
Agreed, it was insulting and degrading, but that doesn't mean that one automatically has to strike back with an equal or greater insulting and degrading comment. We are adults here, correct? At times, one must defend oneself; at other times, one can choose not to strike back.
It's obviously not for me to decide whether or not he should have said those words. You know, freedom of speech and all.
On the other hand, we all filter the truth in some way or another. Do you always strike back at others? I assume you pick your words carefully. Not to mention that Serena Williams was not even there, had zero to do with the conversation, and was not the one who asked the question. It would be different if Serena personally asked the question to him ("Do you think I am the greatest?"). Why insult a person who is not even there and who had zero to do with the conversation? Not very alpha. :-\ :-\ :-\
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Are you saying a fact that hurts someone's feelings should never be said so as to not offend?
I doubt Serena's feelings were hurt. On the other hand, why insult someone who is not even there, had zero to do with the conversation, and did not ask the question?
As I stated above, it would be different if she had the gall to ask the question about herself, "Do you think I am the greatest?" That would be presumptuous and deserving of ridicule.
Again, I said that I was not offended, nor did I care what he said. I'm just saying that it seems odd to attack someone who is not even present.
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the topic is he's being criticized for telling the truth.
first off - is he telling the truth? that has not been established.
second - is he being criticized for telling the truth? we dont know that either. maybe he's being criticized for being a dick.
You called him a dick not me. There is no truth or false, just his opinion. Everybody has their opinion on the matter and that is cool. You're the one that thinks people shouldn't. If it wants to insert his foot in his mouth, that is his right. But people have a right To respond as well.
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Agreed, it was insulting and degrading, but that doesn't mean that one automatically has to strike back with an equal or greater insulting and degrading comment. We are adults here, correct? At times, one must defend oneself; at other times, one can choose not to strike back.
It's obviously not for me to decide whether or not he should have said those words. You know, freedom of speech and all.
On the other hand, we all filter the truth in some way or another. Do you always strike back at others? I assume you pick your words carefully. Not to mention that Serena Williams was not even there, had zero to do with the conversation, and was not the one who asked the question. It would be different if Serena personally asked the question to him ("Do you think I am the greatest?"). Why insult a person who is not even there and who had zero to do with the conversation? Not very alpha. :-\ :-\ :-\
I do not think it is very nice to allow people to insult you with such impunity fueled by an absolutely mistaken factual world view. You are doing them a favor not suffering their foolishness, but hey, be controlled by political correct "niceness" if you want. You'll end up shining their shoes.
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So you can't say Mayweather is the best boxer in the world because he would easily get beat by a journeyman or amateur heavyweight, Serena accomplished more than 99% of male players that's a fact , I thought the Coach was the only retard on Getbig
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So you can't say Mayweather is the best boxer in the world because he would easily get beat by a journeyman or amateur heavyweight, Serena accomplished more than 99% of male players that's a fact , I thought the Coach was the only retard on Getbig
I see you're taking a break from your gimmick.
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I've watched most sports all of my life, if you're like me would have remembered this exchange...
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I've watched most sports all of my life, if you're like me would have remembered this exchange...
No time to watch whole video, but assume Connors trounced her.
They could teach a whole semester long college course based on just this one comment from McEnroe. It cuts to the core of the whole PC issue in society today. Is stating a fact, a truthful fact, ever sexist, racist, classist, or whatever? Regardless of the intention of the speaker, if it's true, it's true. And for those claiming it isn't true, I'll take the expert opinion of McEnroe on an issue like this where it's pretty much guesswork.
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So you can't say Mayweather is the best boxer in the world because he would easily get beat by a journeyman or amateur heavyweight, Serena accomplished more than 99% of male players that's a fact , I thought the Coach was the only retard on Getbig
Because the interviewer asked why Serena wasn't considered better than 100% of the male players jack ass.
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damn, I came to see a "was in rehab with one of his cousins... :-\ :-\ :-\ still no post
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Not all. Where Mcenroe screwed up was top 700. She would probably crack top 100.
Also, Male tennis matches best of 5. Females best of 3. (in Grand Slams)
Did you read this thread at all? She played a guy ranked 200 years ago and got smoked. She would be lucky to crack the top 1000.
The only sports women should compete against men is things like Archery etc. which I don't understand why they can't. Is their hand eye coordination poorer than men? Because I don't think it's as physical.
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I've watched most sports all of my life, if you're like me would have remembered this exchange...
Oh, brother. What are words are NOT in your vocabulary!? ::)
/see: riggs vs. king
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Did you read this thread at all? She played a guy ranked 200 years ago and got smoked. She would be lucky to crack the top 1000.
The only sports women should compete against men is things like Archery etc. which I don't understand why they can't. Is their hand eye coordination poorer than men? Because I don't think it's as physical.
It's telling that women cannot even compete in pure skill sports.
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Not all. Where Mcenroe screwed up was top 700. She would probably crack top 100.
Also, Male tennis matches best of 5. Females best of 3. (in Grand Slams)
She would crack top 100 when she has to play more matches (which is what men do in most tournaments) and play best of 5 sets? She would be playing more sets, more matches, against vastly superior opponents. She wouldn't last 6 weeks before her body and spirit broke. The only thing cracking would be her joints and mind.
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Easy, Sev. Not a lot health care to fall back on. Stay in Mycrobia ?
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lol. tennis is full of cucks. the women play less sets and would get blown away by the men but get paid the same amount.
the only strong point they have is the occasional eye candy and orgasm noises.
do they ever pop nuggets?
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Her question was insulting and degrading to HIS accomplishments and all male players. Massivley ignorant. Like asking who is better Navy Mike or Ronnie Coleman.
I haven't read to the end of the thread yet, but I want to congratulate everyone on this not devolving into racism.
Garcia-Navarro: In your book, you say that blacks have a disproportionately high crime rate.
McEnroe: Disproportionately high — no question.
Garcia-Navarro: Why single out blacks? Why not talk about, say, Asian crime?
McEnroe: Well because, compared to Asians, blacks commit about 700 times as many.
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It was a mistake to read this thread.
I was in sheer disbelief when I read the original post.
I then started to read Vince Goodrum's posts and that ballooned out into fucking absolute confusion.
I had to reread the words, searching for the evil.
Fuck this thread and anybody who thinks there is anything there. There is the best male player and there is the best female player. It's very fucking simple.
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It was a mistake to read this thread.
I was in sheer disbelief when I read the original post.
I then started to read Vince Goodrum's posts and that ballooned out into fucking absolute confusion.
I had to reread the words, searching for the evil.
Fuck this thread and anybody who thinks there is anything there. There is the best male player and there is the best female player. It's very fucking simple.
Too much I?
//new Yorker interested ?
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Too much I?
//new Yorker interested ?
I'm afraid I cannot quite understand your shorthand, sir.
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The old McEnroe would have told her to go fuck herself.