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Re: John McEnroe criticized by PC police for telling the truth
« Reply #50 on: June 27, 2017, 01:45:41 PM »
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Re: John McEnroe criticized by PC police for telling the truth
« Reply #51 on: June 27, 2017, 01:46:45 PM »
too know whether he was insulting her we need to examine what he said.

he said she would beat ranked 700

maybe thats not accurate. maybe she's top 200 ? if so that IS insulting, if he on purpose try to downplay her skillset.
Truth? That is just his opinion? You didn't answer the question.
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Re: John McEnroe criticized by PC police for telling the truth
« Reply #52 on: June 27, 2017, 01:47:44 PM »
It's not even funny how easily she'd get destroyed,
Factor in those sisters are genetic freaks in women's tennis, imagine how easily the average  female pro would look like an amateur against a male pro

Serena in her prime couldn't touch Agassi in his.

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Re: John McEnroe criticized by PC police for telling the truth
« Reply #53 on: June 27, 2017, 01:50:29 PM »
Truth? That is just his opinion? You didn't answer the question.

if someone asks "if she the best period"

you can answer "no, i dont think she could beat hte top male players"

or someone can be a dick about it and answer "haha she cant even beat a 12 year old!"

that might be a fact, but you can state a fact without being a dick about it.


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Re: John McEnroe criticized by PC police for telling the truth
« Reply #54 on: June 27, 2017, 01:52:24 PM »
if someone asks "if she the best period"

you can answer "no, i dont think she could beat hte top male players"

or someone can be a dick about it and answer "haha she cant even beat a 12 year old!"

that might be a fact, but you can state a fact without being a dick about it.


So you're saying McEnroe is a dick but totally right at the same time? But anyone else with an opinion is wrong? Got it.
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Re: John McEnroe criticized by PC police for telling the truth
« Reply #55 on: June 27, 2017, 01:55:56 PM »
So you're saying McEnroe is a dick but totally right at the same time? But anyone else with an opinion is wrong? Got it.

the topic is he's being criticized for telling the truth.

first off - is he telling the truth? that has not been established.

second - is he being criticized for telling the truth? we dont know that either. maybe he's being criticized for being a dick.

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Re: John McEnroe criticized by PC police for telling the truth
« Reply #56 on: June 27, 2017, 01:57:39 PM »
Testing waters for a modern Billie Jean King Bobby Riggs match...seeing what buzz is like to see if match could make money. We're playing along like good little media pawns. Guarantee they'll be talking about Mcenroe Serena match soon. Less subtle than the wwe.

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Re: John McEnroe criticized by PC police for telling the truth
« Reply #57 on: June 27, 2017, 01:58:11 PM »

He made an unwarranted sexist remark that is dismissive of her accomplishments in tennis.   Its an asshole statement and he's going to be treated like the asshole he is

Come on - you got to be kidding. 



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Re: John McEnroe criticized by PC police for telling the truth
« Reply #58 on: June 27, 2017, 04:08:29 PM »
Am I offended by what he said? No
Do I care? No.

However, he could have easily said something like "she is the best female player in the world. However, she is not the best overall player because she is clearly not better than many of the men."

The 700th comment was a snide dig, and although it may be the truth, it didn't need to be said. The truth can sometimes not be said. Do you all always tell the truth? No.
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Re: John McEnroe criticized by PC police for telling the truth
« Reply #59 on: June 27, 2017, 04:16:12 PM »
Serena in her prime couldn't touch Agassi in his.

She'd try to but he'd be way too quick.  He'd jump over the net.  Run around the umpire's chair.  "Get that thing away from me!  Steffi, halp!"

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Re: John McEnroe criticized by PC police for telling the truth
« Reply #60 on: June 27, 2017, 04:29:32 PM »
Am I offended by what he said? No
Do I care? No.

However, he could have easily said something like "she is the best female player in the world. However, she is not the best overall player because she is clearly not better than many of the men."

The 700th comment was a snide dig, and although it may be the truth, it didn't need to be said. The truth can sometimes not be said. Do you all always tell the truth? No.


How about that the female interviewer is a fucking asshole for putting him in a position where he had no choice but to point out that men are better tennis players than women? Does she really not know why Serena is not the best tennis player in the world? Is she so fucking stupid that she doesn't know that there's a separate division for women because the top women could not hang with the top men?

"Garcia-Navarro: Yeah, the best tennis player in the world. You know, why say female player?"

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Re: John McEnroe criticized by PC police for telling the truth
« Reply #61 on: June 27, 2017, 04:37:54 PM »
Did he really apologize for this nothingness?

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Re: John McEnroe criticized by PC police for telling the truth
« Reply #62 on: June 27, 2017, 04:39:03 PM »
How about that the female interviewer is a fucking asshole for putting him in a position where he had no choice but to point out that men are better tennis players than women? Does she really not know why Serena is not the best tennis player in the world? Is she so fucking stupid that she doesn't know that there's a separate division for women because the top women could not hang with the top men?

"Garcia-Navarro: Yeah, the best tennis player in the world. You know, why say female player?"

She's equally an idiot. However, her question did not necessarily have to dictate his comment. He could have easily said "no, she's not the best player in the world because there are many men better than her." That's getting the point across that men are better without the the 700th comment.

Again,  I don't give a crap what he said, but the whole idea that he told the truth so it's okay is a dumb argument. Most ppl don't tell the 100% truth on a daily basis. We all filter ourselves.
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Re: John McEnroe criticized by PC police for telling the truth
« Reply #64 on: June 27, 2017, 04:43:53 PM »
I don't think it's out of bounds to say serena would lose to most male pros and that she has a bigger scrotum than mcenroe.

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Re: John McEnroe criticized by PC police for telling the truth
« Reply #65 on: June 27, 2017, 04:49:52 PM »
They fucked with the wrong Irishman.

https://www.google.com/amp/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4645246/amp/John-McEnroe-won-t-apologize-Serena-Williams-comment.html
Good. He doesn't seem like the type to back down from something like that. Nothing wrong with what he said.

Man, just got done watching an all-female team in one of those Spartan races and can't believe the patronizing they were getting. Olympic level athletes actually and got last finishing behind teams with 2 men and 3 women/3 men and 2 women. Still they kept praising them on how well they were doing. Their phrase was they wanted to "prove that gender didn't matter". If it doesn't matter then allow an all male team......some of the men were also older in their 40's.

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Re: John McEnroe criticized by PC police for telling the truth
« Reply #66 on: June 27, 2017, 04:51:41 PM »
I don't think it's out of bounds to say serena would lose to most male pros and that she has a bigger scrotum than mcenroe.

Damn, I missed that part of the interview.

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Re: John McEnroe criticized by PC police for telling the truth
« Reply #67 on: June 27, 2017, 04:57:03 PM »
Good. He doesn't seem like the type to back down from something like that. Nothing wrong with what he said.

Man, just got done watching an all-female team in one of those Spartan races and can't believe the patronizing they were getting. Olympic level athletes actually and got last finishing behind teams with 2 men and 3 women/3 men and 2 women. Still they kept praising them on how well they were doing. Their phrase was they wanted to "prove that gender didn't matter". If it doesn't matter then allow an all male team......some of the men were also older in their 40's.

Mazrim, do you think if Goodrum wanted to, he could become a profession tennis player?
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Re: John McEnroe criticized by PC police for telling the truth
« Reply #68 on: June 27, 2017, 04:57:50 PM »
Good. He doesn't seem like the type to back down from something like that. Nothing wrong with what he said.

Man, just got done watching an all-female team in one of those Spartan races and can't believe the patronizing they were getting. Olympic level athletes actually and got last finishing behind teams with 2 men and 3 women/3 men and 2 women. Still they kept praising them on how well they were doing. Their phrase was they wanted to "prove that gender didn't matter". If it doesn't matter then allow an all male team......some of the men were also older in their 40's.



This is a big reason why Trump won and why the mainstream media is done. People are tired of having their intelligence insulted like this.

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Re: John McEnroe criticized by PC police for telling the truth
« Reply #69 on: June 27, 2017, 04:58:41 PM »
a player ranked 203 un the world beat both the sisters in the same afternoon in matches and he wasnt even trying.
https://www.theguardian.com/observer/osm/story/0,,543962,00.html


oops just seen the pos above

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Re: John McEnroe criticized by PC police for telling the truth
« Reply #70 on: June 27, 2017, 05:00:13 PM »
There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with what he said. Good for him for not backing down.

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Re: John McEnroe criticized by PC police for telling the truth
« Reply #71 on: June 27, 2017, 05:10:43 PM »
It's not even funny how easily she'd get destroyed,
Factor in those sisters are genetic freaks in women's tennis, imagine how easily the average  female pro would look like an amateur against a male pro


Not all. Where Mcenroe screwed up was top 700. She would probably crack top 100.

Also, Male tennis matches best of 5. Females best of 3. (in Grand Slams)

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Re: John McEnroe criticized by PC police for telling the truth
« Reply #72 on: June 27, 2017, 05:14:01 PM »
It's like comparing Iris Kyle to Dorian or Ronnie.

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Re: John McEnroe criticized by PC police for telling the truth
« Reply #73 on: June 27, 2017, 05:23:38 PM »
 The little social justice Warrior asked if you needed to qualify what he said by saying Serena was the best female player? Puck of course he did because that's who she plays against and that's who she is ranked against. Fucking idiots. When I start playing professional matches with men vs women and they start getting ranked men vs women then and only then will you not need to qualify a statement like that

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Re: John McEnroe criticized by PC police for telling the truth
« Reply #74 on: June 27, 2017, 05:56:37 PM »

And he should have not taken the bait...thats why Serena responded that she respects and loves John because even she knew he got played.  But at the same time, he needs to not fall into trap doors

So are you says this C ah girl was baiting him just to elicit a response that could get him in to trouble instead of really asking a meaningful question?