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Dr. JM Blakely's best was 17 pounds, and one 32er he knew, think it was Doug Heath was able to lose 21
this was for making weight for power lifting and bench comps in their cases
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Dr. JM Blakely's best was 17 pounds, and one 32er he knew, think it was Doug Heath was able to lose 21
this was for making weight for power lifting and bench comps in their cases
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They should simply weigh in a couple of hours away from the competition. Why have weight classes
if you weight 25lbs more when you compete/fight?
Some powerlifting competitions have 48 hour weigh-ins, then you can really do some crazy and dangerous shit.
In the IPF you weigh in 2 hours before and this sounds most reasonable.
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Canelo supposedly weighed 185 on fight night for the Khan fight. He had weighed in the day before at the catchweight limit of 155.
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The owner of my a gym that I worked at years ago used to host a local NPC show in town. He was telling me how he hired Paul Dillet to guest pose one year back when Paul was at his peak. He picked Paul up at the airport and he said he was in the middle of offseason and was literally the most massive bodybuilder he had ever seen. He said he almost started laughing when he saw Paul walking towards him at the airport bc he looked so ridiculous. He said he was wearing a tank top and those baggy style 90s workout pants that bodybuilders always wear, complete with the fanny pack and everything. He said he'll never forget how everyone in the airport just stared at Paul like he was a freak of nature. The first thing Paul wanted to do was eat so he took him to Calhouns (local East Tennessee restaurant). He said Paul ate a rack and a half of ribs and kept asking the waitress for more cornbread over and over. Anyway he took him to the gym later to get a workout in before the guest posing, and he said he was really surprised by how light of weights he used. This is well known now but at the time, I remember being surprised when he told me that as well. Supposedly Paul said he was about 335 at the time, and while huge, his conditioning was obviously pretty bad. He said Paul said he needed laxis for the guest posing and supposedly knew someone in town who could get them. He said the next morning he went to pick up Dillett and he looked like a different person. He had lost about 35 pounds and had veins all over his chest and arms that weren't there the day before. Anyway, he said the guest posing went well, and Paul was obviously very impressive. He did mention one other funny thing was that most of the novice competitors in the show were better at posing than Paul...he was shaking like crazy and could only hold a pose for a few seconds before it looked like he was loosing his balance.
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The owner of my a gym that I worked at years ago used to host a local NPC show in town. He was telling me how he hired Paul Dillet to guest pose one year back when Paul was at his peak. He picked Paul up at the airport and he said he was in the middle of offseason and was literally the most massive bodybuilder he had ever seen. He said he almost started laughing when he saw Paul walking towards him at the airport bc he looked so ridiculous. He said he was wearing a tank top and those baggy style 90s workout pants that bodybuilders always wear, complete with the fanny pack and everything. He said he'll never forget how everyone in the airport just stared at Paul like he was a freak of nature. The first thing Paul wanted to do was eat so he took him to Calhouns (local East Tennessee restaurant). He said Paul ate a rack and a half of ribs and kept asking the waitress for more cornbread over and over. Anyway he took him to the gym later to get a workout in before the guest posing, and he said he was really surprised by how light of weights he used. This is well known now but at the time, I remember being surprised when he told me that as well. Supposedly Paul said he was about 335 at the time, and while huge, his conditioning was obviously pretty bad. He said Paul said he needed laxis for the guest posing and supposedly knew someone in town who could get them. He said the next morning he went to pick up Dillett and he looked like a different person. He had lost about 35 pounds and had veins all over his chest and arms that weren't there the day before. Anyway, he said the guest posing went well, and Paul was obviously very impressive. He did mention one other funny thing was that most of the novice competitors in the show were better at posing than Paul...he was shaking like crazy and could only hold a pose for a few seconds before it looked like he was loosing his balance.
I used to charge guys in h.s. $40 to get them weighed in and rehydrated for wrestling meets using lasix, glycerol, halotestin(Stenox) and this rice-pudding stuff and have'em drop 20-25lbs to weigh-in and bounce back 20-25lbs same day. Would usually be 2 tabs lasix (40mg).
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I used to charge guys in h.s. $40 to get them weighed in and rehydrated for wrestling meets using lasix, glycerol, halotestin(Stenox) and this rice-pudding stuff and have'em drop 20-25lbs to weigh-in and bounce back 20-25lbs same day. Would usually be 2 tabs lasix (40mg).
Why would even bother with something like that lol.
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Why would even bother with something like that lol.
I was the only one who knew where to get the shit (mexico) or what to use... And they would rather pay $40 than spend all day in rubber suits in a super-heated sealed off wrestling room sweating out thenweigjt riding stationary bikes.
And $40 seemed like a lot more when I was 17-18yrsbold.
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I used to charge guys in h.s. $40 to get them weighed in and rehydrated for wrestling meets using lasix, glycerol, halotestin(Stenox) and this rice-pudding stuff and have'em drop 20-25lbs to weigh-in and bounce back 20-25lbs same day. Would usually be 2 tabs lasix (40mg).
Shenanigans.
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Shenanigans.
Football season id sell Thermadrene (I forget the company.. Sportpharma?? Dave Fisher was in their ads) for $5 each and guys would take 4-8 per game. LoL... But the dumbfuck wouldn't pay a dime for Ripped Fuel or Xenedrine even thoughnitsnthensame thing just not a pretty red n white capsule.
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I used to charge guys in h.s. $40 to get them weighed in and rehydrated for wrestling meets using lasix, glycerol, halotestin(Stenox) and this rice-pudding stuff and have'em drop 20-25lbs to weigh-in and bounce back 20-25lbs same day. Would usually be 2 tabs lasix (40mg).
Gotta stop you right there. I'm calling BS. A kids systems or damn near anyone's system can take that kind of trauma without getting rushed to the ER.
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They should simply weigh in a couple of hours away from the competition. Why have weight classes
if you weight 25lbs more when you compete/fight?
Some powerlifting competitions have 48 hour weigh-ins, then you can really do some crazy and dangerous shit.
In the IPF you weigh in 2 hours before and this sounds most reasonable.
Every powerlifting competition I competed in (USPF) had weigh ins in the morning. I always stayed within five seven pounds of my weight class so it was easy to make wight. I remember the bb I trained with eating a lot of tuna when dieting and Jeff King was the most regimented with his diet.
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The most I've ever got a fighter down in weight was Jay Silva for his UFC debut against Chris Leben. Joe Silva gave him 12 days to make weight (185). He was 232 when we started. We made it to 190, he was walking death but still taking in water (although not a lot) and Dandilion root was used for water loss as well as apseragus. Because it was short notice they created a catch weight for the fight.
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Gotta stop you right there. I'm calling BS. A kids systems or damn near anyone's system can take that kind of trauma without getting rushed to the ER.
We did it for the last 2 seasons I was there with 3-4 guys and I helped a kid who was a junior the season after I graduated. Nobody went to the ER nobody and nobody had any scares. Sometimes we'd cramp up that was mostly in the beginning until we figured out the mix. A lot safer than alternating 20mins sitting in a sauna with a belly full of diet pills wearing a rubber suit and 20mins ofnann exercise bike for an hour in the morning, 2 1hour sessions during the day and however hours long after school to cut weight a day or 2ndays in a row before a meet and starving 5 days a week. We were always the biggest and strongest and had the most gas in our tanks while everybody else was gaunt and weak and starving to the point their hair was falling out and couldnt keep awake in class.
**edit. I take that back the only scare we had was with me when I fucked up on myself my senior year getting ready for Photoshoot and I woke up at night so dizzy I couldn't sit up straight with sweat pouring off me. And my heart pounding out of my chest. Freaked out my gf who I was spending the night with and she wanted to wake up her sisters husband (I wasn17 orb18 & gf was 28 and shared a townhouse with her sister and her husband who was a Dr at Sharp Hospital across the street).. Lasted all night and I'd lost a lot of water and was super flat and everything was cramping. Hands, face/jaw, neck, feet, calves, tib anterior, muscles over my ribs and rhomboids, etc.. Think I'd fucked up taking minerals and taking 1200mg. Jumbo capsules filled with salt. I wanted more sodium in me that day but wasn't taking in much food so I filled caps with salt instead. That was not a fun night. Forget how much lasix id taken. Was either 60mg that day and 40 the day before or 40 that day and 60 the day before...
Oh, forgot to mention i used insulin to carb the guys up as well. By that time id already been using insulin for a While
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We did it for the last 2 seasons I was there with 3-4 guys and I helped a kid who was a junior the season after I graduated. Nobody went to the ER nobody and nobody had any scares. Sometimes we'd cramp up that was mostly in the beginning until we figured out the mix. A lot safer than alternating 20mins sitting in a sauna with a belly full of diet pills wearing a rubber suit and 20mins ofnann exercise bike for an hour in the morning, 2 1hour sessions during the day and however hours long after school to cut weight a day or 2ndays in a row before a meet and starving 5 days a week. We were always the biggest and strongest and had the most gas in our tanks while everybody else was gaunt and weak and starving to the point their hair was falling out and couldnt keep awake in class.
Of course your guys were the best, why wouldnt they be,,,,,its your story.
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Of course your guys were the best, why wouldnt they be,,,,,its your story.
Watch the movie "Bring it On". The cheerleader movie.. The first one.
When they go to the school in "then hood", with the black girls wit the green uniforms? In that gym you'll see a trophy-case. That's our school, our gym, & our schools trophies, mostly CIF trophies for wrestling before we were there, while we were there, and there's more in there from after us. There were a few for the girls basketball as well, but my school dominated CIF wrestling buddy.
Sorry your "athletic career" ended with kickball at recess in the third grade and you can't relate.
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I was the only one who knew where to get the shit (mexico) or what to use... And they would rather pay $40 than spend all day in rubber suits in a super-heated sealed off wrestling room sweating out thenweigjt riding stationary bikes.
And $40 seemed like a lot more when I was 17-18yrsbold.
No once else could get hold of it but you could with your "Mexico connections" at 17/18
Fucking hell is it just me that sees this shit for what it is?
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Watch the movie "Bring it On". The cheerleader movie.. The first one.
When they go to the school in "then hood", with the black girls wit the green uniforms? In that gym you'll see a trophy-case. That's our school, our gym, & our schools trophies, mostly CIF trophies for wrestling before we were there, while we were there, and there's more in there from after us. There were a few for the girls basketball as well, but my school dominated CIF wrestling buddy.
Sorry your "athletic career" ended with kickball at recess in the third grade and you can't relate.
this is what happens when i decide to leave you alone unchecked, the stories just get more and more outlandish.
Crack on mate, I cant wait for whats coming next.
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No once else could get hold of it but you could with your "Mexico connections" at 17/18
Fucking hell is it just me that sees this shit for what it is?
My "Mexico connections"? You mean any fucking pharmacy in Tijuana? You fucking bitch made troll you can't resist being a little pussy 24/7 can you? I just can't fucking relate to people like you.
I began my first cycle on my 17th birthday. That means I already had a supply at that time meaning I was already smuggling when I was 16 and preparing and stocking up... You fucking sissy.
Some of the guys here may have been around the VariX and ugbodybuilding.com boards back in 1998,& might recall the first time I was busted smuggling by u.s. customs when I was 16, then again busted by Mexican cops in Mexico a couple weeks later. You stupid punk and more of your "I was a little English Schoolboy punk bitch who led a sheltered life so if I couldn't fathom doing something similar at 17 or 18 then you must not be either and you must surely be lying".... Fucking cowardly bitch
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this is what happens when i decide to leave you alone unchecked, the stories just get more and more outlandish.
Crack on mate, I cant wait for whats coming next.
Ask yourself how many people here would give up whatever they have on you for a year's supply of testosterone? Not just you and your shit a little job and phone number but your wife wife's family where she works phone numbers addresses kids names and schools and phone numbers....
Who might even take a little stroll up and down Cheshire with a camera phone? All for a year's supply of Trenbolone
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Ask yourself how many people here would give up whatever they have on you for a year's supply of testosterone? Not just you and your shit a little job and phone number but your wife wife's family where she works phone numbers addresses kids names and schools and phone numbers....
Who might even take a little stroll up and down Cheshire with a camera phone? All for a year's supply of Trenbolone
showing your real colours again are we?
What on earth do you thinks going to happen?
Do you seriously think someone's going to kill my children for a years supply of test?
Film me with a camera phone?
And do what, beat me up?
Grow up you moron.
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showing your real colours again are we?
What on earth do you thinks going to happen?
Do you seriously think someone's going to kill my children for a years supply of test?
Film me with a camera phone?
And do what, beat me up?
Grow up you moron.
I've been on message boards as long as ESFitness/aka Insulin Shock and he was writing some of these things back in 98-99 so he's not making it up.
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I dont do wife or kids, but i am willing to fight Mr. Jeff in judo or greco roman wresling, no punching or kicking because i am already ugly. I use 20cc of test a day, so multiply that for a year, and we have a go.
And Mr. Jeff, the winner pays the beers at the end.
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showing your real colours again are we?
What on earth do you thinks going to happen?
Do you seriously think someone's going to kill my children for a years supply of test?
Film me with a camera phone?
And do what, beat me up?
Grow up you moron.
Killem eh? Awefully paranoid again. Seems paranoia is something that you deal with an awful lot. Get beat up a lot in school? Have to hide from bullys often? Peek around corners? You're not the only one in London pencilneck
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The most I've ever got a fighter down in weight was Jay Silva for his UFC debut against Chris Leben. Joe Silva gave him 12 days to make weight (185). He was 232 when we started. We made it to 190, he was walking death but still taking in water (although not a lot) and Dandilion root was used for water loss as well as apseragus. Because it was short notice they created a catch weight for the fight.
Surely you mean dandelion leaf, right? That's your potassium sparing diuretic. Tarax radix is a chologogue, not a diuretic. It'll make you shit.
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Killem eh? Awefully paranoid again. Seems paranoia is something that you deal with an awful lot. Get beat up a lot in school? Have to hide from bullys often? Peek around corners? You're not the only one in London pencilneck
Im not in London, I thought you knew that already bearing in mind you want to send someone to Cheshire... ::)
My school life was great, I used to run the yard with my "Scottish Connections", there was only me who could visit Scotland as I had a passport, no on else in England was allowed in back in the 70s, I had a deal going with Jim Callaghan to allow me to enter.
I used to import Haggis,(a Scottish delicacy that runs wild and eats Heather) we used to trap them with a guitar string, a tip I passed onto some American guy who used to sew up his wounds with it.
amazing times...
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They should simply weigh in a couple of hours away from the competition. Why have weight classes
if you weight 25lbs more when you compete/fight?
Some powerlifting competitions have 48 hour weigh-ins, then you can really do some crazy and dangerous shit.
In the IPF you weigh in 2 hours before and this sounds most reasonable.
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they should fight at walking weight
all bench press comps I did had the weigh in the night before the meet
you basically had 18 hours to gain back what you lost
the best I ever did was to drop 9 to make the 48s and then gained 12 back, the 9 I lost pplus 3 extra
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THIS
they should fight at walking weight
all bench press comps I did had the weigh in the night before the meet
you basically had 18 hours to gain back what you lost
the best I ever did was to drop 9 to make the 48s and then gained 12 back, the 9 I lost pplus 3 extra
the reason they give days notice and weigh in before is so fighters don't end up getting in the ring depleted, its caused the deaths of a few fighters.
Its health and safety of fighters
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the reason they give days notice and weigh in before is so fighters don't end up getting in the ring depleted, its caused the deaths of a few fighters.
Its health and safety of fighters
yep I know
but they used to weigh in the day of the fight up until the late 80s I believe
then the boxing commission cchanged it coz of the deaths
I think James toney made middle weight at 160 and then fought at 190, back in the 90s
pure d fucking bullshit
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pure d fucking bullshit
Not at all, every one has the same opportunity to cut weight. It's a level playing field, just a matter of who's willing to push it to maximize their advantage
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Gotta stop you right there. I'm calling BS. A kids systems or damn near anyone's system can take that kind of trauma without getting rushed to the ER.
Just stop. You know that. I know that. We know that. But EF just has to contribute some outlandish claim to this thread.
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Speaking of kids taking Lasix. I can't remember the exact circumstances but my little brother took a Lasix tablet just to see what would happen, he was maybe 15 years old. Can't remember where he got ahold of it, but he told me he just took one, him and another kid each took one. I was like wtf would you do that, that shit is dangerous, tell me if you start feeling bad and make sure you eat and drink water in the following hours. But nothing happened, didn't weigh him but both kids were fine and apparently unaffected. :D I'm pretty sure it was a 40mg too because I remember looking at the bottle and thinking the dose was high, and I was ready to drive him to the ER if he started feeling bad.
ESF's story could be true. Sure it's nuts to do such a thing, but kids do some crazy shit sometimes and most of the time they survive by luck :D
I don't know if anyone else has the same experience, but I've seen guys take a Lasix a couple of times and it apparently did nothing. Anyone else seen this? I have close to zero experience with this drug. Though one friend said he lost 18lbs overnight with one Lasix.
And oh yeah, one friend said he got 200mg of IV Lasix after he was admitted to hospital with kidney and heart failure. He lost 17lbs in 2 hours and cramped real bad, had nurses massaging him in shifts for several hours. Said he was screaming in agony despite morphine, valium etc.
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THIS
they should fight at walking weight
all bench press comps I did had the weigh in the night before the meet
you basically had 18 hours to gain back what you lost
the best I ever did was to drop 9 to make the 48s and then gained 12 back, the 9 I lost pplus 3 extra
Some boxing orgs monitor your weight at different stages, it depends on what rules your fighting under... Alot of fighters get found out when they can no longer boil down to a fake weight any more, not as easy fighting somone the same size as you.
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Killem eh? Awefully paranoid again. Seems paranoia is something that you deal with an awful lot. Get beat up a lot in school? Have to hide from bullys often? Peek around corners? You're not the only one in London pencilneck
you stopped providing mediocre entertainment weeks ago....just stop.
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this is what happens when i decide to leave you alone unchecked, the stories just get more and more outlandish.
Crack on mate, I cant wait for whats coming next.
Hahahahaha
My main question is why did his class have to use lasix to compete when the program was winning for years prior to this.
Didn't the coach notice the drastic weight drops?
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Hahahahaha
My main question is why did his class have to use lasix to compete when the program was winning for years prior to this.
Didn't the coach notice the drastic weight drops?
You are using logic to decipher one of his stories????
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Hahahahaha
My main question is why did his class have to use lasix to compete when the program was winning for years prior to this.
Didn't the coach notice the drastic weight drops?
What weight drops? Its making weight in an afternoon/evening pissing out water rather than killing themselve and starving for days... Then refilling with glycerol, water, rice, and insulin. Whatsnso hard for you people to comprehend?
What the fuck is Jeffery doing in thisnthread anyways? Pencil neck collar has never played a fucking sport in his life and never had to make weight so What the fuck input do you have? 55yr old pencil neck troll on a message board lol
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What weight drops? Its making weight in an afternoon/evening pissing out water rather than killing themselve and starving for days... Then refilling with glycerol, water, rice, and insulin. Whatsnso hard for you people to comprehend?
What the fuck is Jeffery doing in thisnthread anyways? Pencil neck collar has never played a fucking sport in his life and never had to make weight so What the fuck input do you have? 55yr old pencil neck troll on a message board lol
played rugby through school and at amateur level up to taking up weights at 21.
Made weight for a bodybuilding class once.
lets see your pics at 240 like you claimed in the other thread, and you cant post the ones with the huge GH gut, they dont count.
Oh, and while Im on, I have competed at National level in the UK in bodybuilding back in the 90s and I qualified for the Britain finals again this year.
Now, lets see what you have done competition wise, I would like photos of pics of you onstage on the winners rostrum in any event you competed in.
un-filmed fights in Mexico don't count.
Anecdotes don't count either
Bearing in mind all your talk about how much you have achieved over the years we have seen zero evidence up to now apart from decades of incoherent ramblings of you spaced out on meds.
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They aren't even remotely bodybuilding lean and crying to make weight lmao
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played rugby through school and at amateur level up to taking up weights at 21.
Made weight for a bodybuilding class once.
lets see your pics at 240 like you claimed in the other thread, and you cant post the ones with the huge GH gut, they dont count.
Oh, and while Im on, I have competed at National level in the UK in bodybuilding back in the 90s and I qualified for the Britain finals again this year.
Now, lets see what you have done competition wise, I would like photos of pics of you onstage on the winners rostrum in any event you competed in.
un-filmed fights in Mexico don't count.
Anecdotes don't count either
Bearing in mind all your talk about how much you have achieved over the years we have seen zero evidence up to now apart from decades of incoherent ramblings of you spaced out on meds.
Tell me again what I've claimed to achieve?
And tell me again what "meds" I'm on as well.
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Tell me again what I've claimed to achieve?
And tell me again what "meds" I'm on as well.
so you have achieved nothing in any sport or competition yet claim to be the worlds expert on every fucking subject ever posted on this forum.
Tell me why have you never competed or been anywhere near contest condition in your life, we have the stories of you being 2% bodyfat but they are just stories.
I imaging its a cocktail of some sorts bearing in mind your previous history, that's if any of its true of course.
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so you have achieved nothing in any sport or competition yet claim to be the worlds expert on every fucking subject ever posted on this forum.
Tell me why have you never competed or been anywhere near contest condition in your life, we have the stories of you being 2% bodyfat but they are just stories.
I imaging its a cocktail of some sorts bearing in mind your previous history, that's if any of its true of course.
C'mon, every time I ask you to show me where I've claimed what you say I've claimed or where I say I've done something that you claim I say I've done you failed to do it.
You a tribute claims such as I was 2% body fat or I was never addicted to heroin or how is a championship bodybuilder or I spoke with Serena Williams daily and had visited her house often or what else? What else have you said I claimed? ... And what I tell your bitch ass to find the post and quote it, you fail.
Why is that? Why have you failed every single time?
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C'mon, every time I ask you to show me where I've claimed what you say I've claimed or where I say I've done something that you claim I say I've done you failed to do it.
You a tribute claims such as I was 2% body fat or I was never addicted to heroin or how is a championship bodybuilder or I spoke with Serena Williams daily and had visited her house often or what else? What else have you said I claimed? ... And what I tell your bitch ass to find the post and quote it, you fail.
Why is that? Why have you failed every single time?
did you forget I posted you Serena Williams quote where you said you used to shake her hand every day?
What's up, your memory failing you?
Don't worry about getting to 34 and achieving nothing worthwhile, you still have time left to do something productive, although you could say that getting through rehab was some kind of achievement but then again getting in a mess in the first place isn't something level headed people do any way.
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did you forget I posted you Serena Williams quote where you said you used to shake her hand every day?
What's up, your memory failing you?
Don't worry about getting to 34 and achieving nothing worthwhile, you still have time left to do something productive, although you could say that getting through rehab was some kind of achievement but then again getting in a mess in the first place isn't something level headed people do any way.
I like how you take something I say such as seeing serena nearly everyday for a week while she's in town on the tennis grounds for the BNP Parabia open into me xlaiming I see her everyday of the year. Very Spanish thing of you to do. I'm not surprised with all the estrogen and lack of testosterone in you. There isn't a masculine characteristic about you and I don't even think you realize it
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I like how you take something I say such as seeing serena nearly everyday for a week while she's in town on the tennis grounds for the BNP Parabia open into me xlaiming I see her everyday of the year. Very Spanish thing of you to do. I'm not surprised with all the estrogen and lack of testosterone in you. There isn't a masculine characteristic about you and I don't even think you realize it
I have no idea why I have engaged you again, you are obviously a very damaged individual, its coming across like Im bullying you now.
Its like debating with a downs syndrome child,,
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I have no idea why I have engaged you again, you are obviously a very damaged individual, its coming across like Im bullying you now.
Its like debating with a downs syndrome child,,
Something you have experience with. How's many times has your kid failed special ed again?
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They aren't even remotely bodybuilding lean and crying to make weight lmao
do you mean these ufc turds?
they wanna drop and cut weight in a 24 hour period to make it into a smaller weight class and then be much bigger come fit time for.the size advantagej
toad gayweather jr walking weight is 151 and he fights at 147
Oscar gay la boya also fought at very near walking weight
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played rugby through school and at amateur level up to taking up weights at 21.
Made weight for a bodybuilding class once.
lets see your pics at 240 like you claimed in the other thread, and you cant post the ones with the huge GH gut, they dont count.
Oh, and while Im on, I have competed at National level in the UK in bodybuilding back in the 90s and I qualified for the Britain finals again this year.
Now, lets see what you have done competition wise, I would like photos of pics of you onstage on the winners rostrum in any event you competed in.
un-filmed fights in Mexico don't count.
Anecdotes don't count either
Bearing in mind all your talk about how much you have achieved over the years we have seen zero evidence up to now apart from decades of incoherent ramblings of you spaced out on meds.
found some pics of me back in the day doing a bench meet
I suppose I could post 'em up
didn't make weigh for that class coz I was in the 65 class
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found some pics of me back in the day doing a bench meet
I suppose I could post 'em up
didn't make weigh for that class coz I was in the 65 pound class
fixed
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Something you have experience with. How's many times has your kid failed special ed again?
why do you keep brining family into it, you don't think anything you can say on here will bother me do you?
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fixed
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That's exactly what I posted dipshit
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That's exactly what I posted dipshit
"didn't make weigh for that class coz I was in the 65 pound class"
;)
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"didn't make weigh for that class coz I was in the 65 pound class"
;)
least I'm honest bout bw
currently I'm sitting at about a buck 62 and I'd smoke your aas on the bench pound for pound
and in the strict curl I'd beat your ass as is
in other words you could come in at over 2 bills and I'd still strict curl more than you
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What weight drops? Its making weight in an afternoon/evening pissing out water rather than killing themselve and starving for days... Then refilling with glycerol, water, rice, and insulin. Whatsnso hard for you people to comprehend?
What the fuck is Jeffery doing in thisnthread anyways? Pencil neck collar has never played a fucking sport in his life and never had to make weight so What the fuck input do you have? 55yr old pencil neck troll on a message board lol
At my high school, its a no where small town, no one was dropping 20 pounds for a meet, 5 maybe 10 at the most. For the most part you were in your weight class. Obviously you'd weigh in at your school the day before to get an idea where you were at for the next days weigh in. As I said no one was dropping 20 pounds and if they did I'd love to see our coach's reaction. He would have been all over that.
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At my high school, its a no where small town, no one was dropping 20 pounds for a meet, 5 maybe 10 at the most. For the most part you were in your weight. Obviously your weigh in at your echo the day before to get an idea where you were at for the next days weigh in. As I said no one was dropping 20 pounds and if they did I'd love to see our coach's reaction. He would have been all over that.
according to Dr. Blakely you have bout 8-10 pounds of "food in the gut" and if you take a double dose of laxative you will shit that out within an 8-12 hour period
losing more than 12 pounds or so is when it becomes difficult and more draining
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least I'm honest bout bw
currently I'm sitting at about a buck 62 and I'd smoke your aas on the bench pound for pound
and in the strict curl I'd beat your ass as is
in other words you could come in at over 2 bills and I'd still strict curl more than you
and if we went to the beach people would think I had brought along an umbrella that had blown inside out.
weights don't matter mate, its how you look...
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according to Dr. Blakely you have bout 8-10 pounds of "food in the gut" and if you take a double dose of laxative you will shit that out within an 8-12 hour period
losing more than 12 pounds or so is when it becomes difficult and more draining
Well the good doctor is wrong. People don't walk around with that much fecal matter in their system unless their digestive system is failing. Out of curiosity what is the time period it takes you to eat 8 pounds of food?
And these were high school wrestlers cutting weight with diuretics.
Also read what coach was able to do with a professional fighter.
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Well the good doctor is wrong. People don't walk around with that much fecal matter in their system unless their digestive system is failing. Out of curiosity what is the time period it takes you to eat 8 pounds of food?
And these were high school wrestlers cutting weight with diuretics.
Also read what coach was able to do with a professional fighter.
what he termed "food in the gut" wasn't just food in the gutt but also water in the gut and piss in the bladder etc
have you ever cut weight slave pee?
my best was 9 pounds
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No once else could get hold of it but you could with your "Mexico connections" at 17/18
Fucking hell is it just me that sees this shit for what it is?
It ain't just you. It's a guy who makes a lot of stuff up based on what he's heard and a kernel of truth here and there. Maybe he did help some guy make weight for wrestling in high school but it wasn't no losing 25 lbs in 48 hrs.
Paul Dillett was lying about losing 30 lbs overnight also, but at least that's more believable based on a 330 lb body weight. There's only a couple of classes of high school wrestling where the kids are even more than 170
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what he termed "food in the gut" wasn't just food in the gutt but also water in the gut and piss in the bladder etc
have you ever cut weight slave pee?
my best was 9 pounds
You cut 9 pounds of food from your gut?
Listen gimmick you're right, people walk around with a large amount of waste in their intestines.
Whats strange is you know so much but then argue with your original post. A small frame like yours can easily drop 9 pounds 5% of your weight, why then is it hard to believe that that someone with a larger frame who out weighs you by 1/3 could drop the same amount of weight as you in terms of percentage?
A 230 pound man drops 11.5 pounds based on your 9 pounds at 180 (obviously they'd have more "food in their gut" than you). An elite athlete at 230 dropping 13% of their weight blows your mind, based on all your research....
Whatever playa.
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You cut 9 pounds of food from your gut?
Listen gimmick you're right, people walk around with a large amount of waste in their intestines.
Whats strange is you know so much but then argue with your original post. A small frame like yours can easily drop 9 pounds 5% of your weight, why then is it hard to believe that that someone with a larger frame who out weighs you by 1/3 could drop the same amount of weight as you in terms of percentage?
A 230 pound man drops 11.5 pounds based on your 9 pounds at 180 (obviously they'd have more "food in their gut" than you). An elite athlete at 230 dropping 13% of their weight blows your mind, based on all your research....
Whatever playa.
it certainly wasn't fat or muscle slave
I dropped 9 from a buck 57
Mr. Doug Heath dropped 21 from a buck 53
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it certainly wasn't fat or muscle slave
I dropped 9 from a buck 57
Mr. Doug Heath dropped 21 from a buck 53
Bullshit upon bullshit upon bullshit...
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according to Dr. Blakely you have bout 8-10 pounds of "food in the gut" and if you take a double dose of laxative you will shit that out within an 8-12 hour period
losing more than 12 pounds or so is when it becomes difficult and more draining
Idk about that much food in the colon but yeah we'd regularly cut 10-15 lbs for high school wrestling meets just by not eating/drinking for a day and working out, with extra clothes if necessary. No diuretics involved.
I wrestled at 141 and walked around at 153-155. Every body did it, you'd set yourself up for a serious disadvantage if you didn't cut weight.
Given the resources these pros have, between prescription medications and specialized nutrition I have no doubt they can cut twice the weight we can, especially with that much time to refuel/rehydrate
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What weight drops? Its making weight in an afternoon/evening pissing out water rather than killing themselve and starving for days... Then refilling with glycerol, water, rice, and insulin. Whatsnso hard for you people to comprehend?
What the fuck is Jeffery doing in thisnthread anyways? Pencil neck collar has never played a fucking sport in his life and never had to make weight so What the fuck input do you have? 55yr old pencil neck troll on a message board lol
Kids taking insulin. ::)
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Kids taking insulin. ::)
17/18 years ago?
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it certainly wasn't fat or muscle slave
I dropped 9 from a buck 57
Mr. Doug Heath dropped 21 from a buck 53
Dude if you know the answer why did you start the thread?
You lost 9 pounds at 157.
Your boy Doug Heath dropped 21 POUNDS FROM 153 AND YOU START A THREAD TO SEE IF THESE PROFESSIONALS CAN DO THE SAME?
Nice troll attempt poop breath.
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17/18 years ago?
Why not? I knew kids taking insulin back then. Kids into bodybuilding were reading on the internet and it was all laid out in the open.
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Why not? I knew kids taking insulin back then. Kids into bodybuilding were reading on the internet and it was all laid out in the open.
Yeah but these were high school wrestlers cutting to make weight. You knew high school kids doing this?
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Dude if you know the answer why did you start the thread?
You lost 9 pounds at 157.
Your boy Doug Heath dropped 21 POUNDS FROM 153 AND YOU START A THREAD TO SEE IF THESE PROFESSIONALS CAN DO THE SAME?
Nice troll attempt poop breath.
entertainment stud
btw, you never answered my q with regards to your bw
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17/18 years ago?
Yea, 17-18yrs ago. You got a calendar? You got a calculator? Started my first cycle on my 17th birthday .started using insulin a month later. That was 1999. do the fucking math. Ask around I've been posting as InsulinShock for fucking damn near two decades you fucking . One of my first articles was on insulin I wrote for biohazard nutrition that Paul borenson plagiarized and took directly from email I sent him and copied and pasted it on his fucking website with his name on it in 2000 after Trevor left and a few months before Paul od'd and died. That was back when bitch made ignorant uneducated Sissy's like yourself were claiming that 45 or 55 or 65 units of insulin a day would kill you and make you diabetic. Fast forward the 2015 and you got guys using 100 or 200 units of insulin a day and nobody's fucking dying
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Yeah but these were high school wrestlers cutting to make weight. You knew high school kids doing this?
They never would have used it had I not
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entertainment stud
btw, you never answered my q with regards to your bw
I've cut from 230 to 205 for bodybuilding competitions. They were done in a month.Anything else I just entered as is to compete.
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They never would have used it had I not
Fair enough. What was the reason to use the insulin? I understand lasix to deplete but what purpose would insulin serve if they weren't using anabolics?
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Yeah but these were high school wrestlers cutting to make weight. You knew high school kids doing this?
They never would have used it had I not been there to help them use it or sell it to them. Everybody knew I was using anabolics. Everybody knew I got busted in smuggling twice my junior year. Before me there were only a few guys using antibiotics and that's cool which included maybe two guys in the senior class ahead of me and two guys in my class and all they were using was Winstrol. 2mg caps sourced from a scammer named Jaime Irizarry out of Florida. No injections. And none of them knew what the fuc any of the stuff was all they knew it was "it was Roids"... even had one of my Lockers in the auto shop broken into where I had about 15 boxes of Sten,, 12 boxes of Stenox, a dozen or so 21 gauge 3cc syringes and 4 bottles of Hydroxycut and all they stole was the Hydroxycut and had no idea what the Sten or Stenox was and didn't touch it.
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Fair enough. What was the reason to use the insulin? I understand lasix to deplete but what purpose would insulin serve if they weren't using anabolics?
Force glycogen/carbs/water into the cells. Would Drink 4 tablespoons of glycerine with 5 tabs Stenox then do a 5-7iu shot of humulin R, wait 30mins till blood sugar crashed and wojld get super hungry and eat about 4 bowls of rice pudding (if not more.. ).As much as you/we could eat till blood sugar leveled back out and youd get super sleepy and fall asleep. Drinking a gallon of water at the same time... Wake up and eat more rice or applesauce, another couple tablespoons of glycerine (trial and error found out the hard way that too much glycerin would cause diarrhea.)& another gsllonn of water, 5 more Stenox, and as much water as possible before the match without being too bloated. Would get in over 2 gal water after weigh-in and hold onto a lot of that thanks to the insulin glycerin and rice. Was told by Bill Roberts that halotestin (stenox) also helped with glycogen in the muscle cells which is why I used that instead of methyl test. Plus Stenox made yoi aggressive and didn't put on bodyweigjt.
That was a great few years. High school was fucking awesome. I didn't care who knew I used that stuff even though other guys wanted to keep it a secret. Ended up backfiring on me my senior year though and I got drug tested twice by our baseball coach who was a old school "purest" and kick me off the team even though I passed both tests all I was using was testosterone and Insulin at the time. And told the other teammates that they weren't allowed to train or hang out with me lol even tried to get me barred from working with the football team when I was the student strength and conditioning coach senior year. The dumb fuck even tried to say I wasn't allowed in the locker room lol. None of the other coaches gave a shit . And were more concerned with players having passing grades.... Lil side note; one of my first training partners at the time was P.D. Devers and Gail Devers little cousin. He was always suspended from the team for smoking weed. Genetics in that family are 1 in a million. Kid could've stepped onstage at 16 after 3 weeks of dieting and a tab of Dyazide and taken top3 open at the San Diego championships those years.
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Force glycogen/carbs/water into the cells. Would Drink 4 tablespoons of glycerine with 5 tabs Stenox then do a 5-7iu shot of humulin R, wait 30mins till blood sugar crashed and wojld get super hungry and eat about 4 bowls of rice pudding (if not more.. ).As much as you/we could eat till blood sugar leveled back out and youd get super sleepy and fall asleep. Drinking a gallon of water at the same time... Wake up and eat more rice or applesauce, another couple tablespoons of glycerine (trial and error found out the hard way that too much glycerin would cause diarrhea.)& another gsllonn of water, 5 more Stenox, and as much water as possible before the match without being too bloated. Would get in over 2 gal water after weigh-in and hold onto a lot of that thanks to the insulin glycerin and rice. Was told by Bill Roberts that halotestin (stenox) also helped with glycogen in the muscle cells which is why I used that instead of methyl test. Plus Stenox made yoi aggressive and didn't put on bodyweigjt.
That was a great few years. High school was fucking awesome. I didn't care who knew I used that stuff even though other guys wanted to keep it a secret. Ended up backfiring on me my senior year though and I got drug tested twice by our baseball coach who was a old school "purest" and kick me off the team even though I passed both tests all I was using was testosterone and Insulin at the time. And told the other teammates that they weren't allowed to train or hang out with me lol even tried to get me barred from working with the football team when I was the student strength and conditioning coach senior year. The dumb fuck even tried to say I wasn't allowed in the locker room lol. None of the other coaches gave a shit . And were more concerned with players having passing grades.... Lil side note; one of my first training partners at the time was P.D. Devers and Gail Devers little cousin. He was always suspended from the team for smoking weed. Genetics in that family are 1 in a million. Kid could've stepped onstage at 16 after 3 weeks of dieting and a tab of Dyazide and taken top3 open at the San Diego championships those years.
Mr. Anabolic said he knew PD Devers pretty well.
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Force glycogen/carbs/water into the cells. Would Drink 4 tablespoons of glycerine with 5 tabs Stenox then do a 5-7iu shot of humulin R, wait 30mins till blood sugar crashed and wojld get super hungry and eat about 4 bowls of rice pudding (if not more.. ).As much as you/we could eat till blood sugar leveled back out and youd get super sleepy and fall asleep. Drinking a gallon of water at the same time... Wake up and eat more rice or applesauce, another couple tablespoons of glycerine (trial and error found out the hard way that too much glycerin would cause diarrhea.)& another gsllonn of water, 5 more Stenox, and as much water as possible before the match without being too bloated. Would get in over 2 gal water after weigh-in and hold onto a lot of that thanks to the insulin glycerin and rice. Was told by Bill Roberts that halotestin (stenox) also helped with glycogen in the muscle cells which is why I used that instead of methyl test. Plus Stenox made yoi aggressive and didn't put on bodyweigjt.
That was a great few years. High school was fucking awesome. I didn't care who knew I used that stuff even though other guys wanted to keep it a secret. Ended up backfiring on me my senior year though and I got drug tested twice by our baseball coach who was a old school "purest" and kick me off the team even though I passed both tests all I was using was testosterone and Insulin at the time. And told the other teammates that they weren't allowed to train or hang out with me lol even tried to get me barred from working with the football team when I was the student strength and conditioning coach senior year. The dumb fuck even tried to say I wasn't allowed in the locker room lol. None of the other coaches gave a shit . And were more concerned with players having passing grades.... Lil side note; one of my first training partners at the time was P.D. Devers and Gail Devers little cousin. He was always suspended from the team for smoking weed. Genetics in that family are 1 in a million. Kid could've stepped onstage at 16 after 3 weeks of dieting and a tab of Dyazide and taken top3 open at the San Diego championships those years.
did you get to nail Gail?
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Yea, 17-18yrs ago. You got a calendar? You got a calculator? Started my first cycle on my 17th birthday .started using insulin a month later. That was 1999. do the fucking math. Ask around I've been posting as InsulinShock for fucking damn near two decades you fucking . One of my first articles was on insulin I wrote for biohazard nutrition that Paul borenson plagiarized and took directly from email I sent him and copied and pasted it on his fucking website with his name on it in 2000 after Trevor left and a few months before Paul od'd and died. That was back when bitch made ignorant uneducated Sissy's like yourself were claiming that 45 or 55 or 65 units of insulin a day would kill you and make you diabetic. Fast forward the 2015 and you got guys using 100 or 200 units of insulin a day and nobody's fucking dying
bearing in mind how shit you have looked all your life you should really keep things like that to yourself.
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Not at all, every one has the same opportunity to cut weight. It's a level playing field, just a matter of who's willing to push it to maximize their advantage
This reasoning is childish.
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did you get to nail Gail?
She Mustve been midn30s by then. Only met her a few times
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Mr. Anabolic said he knew PD Devers pretty well.
He had a stroke or something about a year after I got out of prison and I hadn't seen him since probably 03.non idea what he's doing now
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http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=552743.0
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This reasoning is childish.
::)
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I used to charge guys in h.s. $40 to get them weighed in and rehydrated for wrestling meets using lasix, glycerol, halotestin(Stenox) and this rice-pudding stuff and have'em drop 20-25lbs to weigh-in and bounce back 20-25lbs same day. Would usually be 2 tabs lasix (40mg).
I wish I knew someone like you when I wrestled in H.S. I remember cutting 22 lbs in 24 hours once getting ready for a 2 day tournament. The horrible thing is, is that you have to weigh in again the next day and they only give you one extra pound for that weigh in. After I won my two matches that day I was 9 lbs over so that night I had to cut 9 lbs. Great times lol.
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I wish I knew someone like you when I wrestled in H.S. I remember cutting 22 lbs in 24 hours once getting ready for a 2 day tournament. The horrible thing is, is that you have to weigh in again the next day and they only give you one extra pound for that weigh in. After I won my two matches that day I was 9 lbs over so that night I had to cut 9 lbs. Great times lol.
8lbs over is only a gallon ornsweat & per. 16lbs is 2 gallons. Dropping the weight in 2 days was the eaaynpart. The hard part was figuring out how to rehydrate and put that weight back on without being sluggish and Bloated. First few times didn't drink or warm enough and you'd and up really really really shity hamstring cramps importantly your gas tank would be almost non-existent. If you like for me to win a "green white checker " NASCAR race with only a gallon of fuel.
Took a few tries to get it right and figure out how much rice and glycerol was needed. Keeping in mind carbohydrates will attract 8 to 10 times it's weight in water into cells... Also used Gatorade with about 20g dextrose, 20g sucrose,& 20g fructose mixxed in an 32oz Gatorade (NEVER powerade... That shit uses high fructose corn syrup. Gatorade does not).
If I were to do it again these days, I'd probably do the same things, except is have atuffnlike citrullinle mallate, aakg, agmatine,& vitagro to work with.... And methyltrienolone,& Bolasterone (dimethyltestosterone), ;)
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Also used Gatorade with about 20g dextrose, 20g sucrose,& 20g fructose mixxed in an 32oz Gatorade (NEVER powerade... That shit uses high fructose corn syrup. Gatorade does not).
Came across this yesterday. Knew most of this beforehand, but good reminder on HFCS. There's this view in many circles that HFCS is the devil but it appears to be pretty much the same as sucrose, neither good nor bad, depending on the context
https://examine.com/nutrition/is-hfcs-high-fructose-corn-syrup-worse-than-sugar/
Of course for carb loading neither sucrose, fructose or hfcs is optimal in high amounts as fructose is best for filling the liver as opposed to the muscles.
For a slow carb isomaltulose/palatinose could be good, instead of fructose.
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Came across this yesterday. Knew most of this beforehand, but good reminder on HFCS. There's this view in many circles that HFCS is the devil but it appears to be pretty much the same as sucrose, neither good nor bad, depending on the context
https://examine.com/nutrition/is-hfcs-high-fructose-corn-syrup-worse-than-sugar/
Of course for carb loading neither sucrose, fructose or hfcs is optimal in high amounts as fructose is best for filling the liver as opposed to the muscles.
For a slow carb isomaltulose/palatinose could be good, instead of fructose.
ffs please dont contradict him....
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ffs please dont contradict him....
I'm not trying to contradict him. :D
But it's easy to buy into hype on things like HFCS since there's so much negative stuff on it on social media etc.
On another forum a poster told me, "I still think HFCS is worse" though he didn't say why. ESFitness might have some other logical reason for not liking it, I don't know, maybe the ratio is off compared to the other carbs in the mix or something.
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I'm not trying to contradict him. :D
But it's easy to buy into hype on things like HFCS since there's so much negative stuff on it on social media etc.
On another forum a poster told me, "I still think HFCS is worse" though he didn't say why. ESFitness might have some other logical reason for not liking it, I don't know, maybe the ratio is off compared to the other carbs in the mix or something.
then it will be his first.....