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Me and my wife are planning in the next few years to move to that area.
We both have a good job here and a university degree.
The idea of changing place to live is mostly due to the worsening of the situation here in Europe/Italy (you know for sure the reasons): we're looking for a quite and safe place to live.
I would like to have some constructive advice from those who live in these states in order to get a better idea for the final decision.
Of course we're planning holidays there (at least a couple of weeks) and more than once in order to get first-hand impressions.
Nevertheless any insights from people who are actually living there would be precious.
Thanks to all who will contribute.
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ciao bello!
my mama was in portland and bend oregon last month (yeah, I know it's not one of the states mentioned, but I bet it's similar to all of those you named except colorado)
anyways, she said that it's pretty peaceful there and she said see saw maybe 5 black folk the whole 10 days she was there
she was visiting an uncle of mine who is an artist and she said bend has a decent sized "art community"
hope that helps you brother
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Thanks for your info Dj, just one question: in which way is Colorado so different in comparison to the other states?
(We're just starting planning this so there's still plenty to know and understand).
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Thanks for your info Dj, just one question: in which way is Colorado so different in comparison to the other states?
(We're just starting planning this so there's still plenty to know and understand).
I think that colorado is more multicultural, more races, with whites still being the majority but a decent number of Hispanics and more backs than the other states
another uncle of mine lived in denver for a few years and I went to visit him twice, I also visited a friend who lived in colorado springs, and what i rememeber is that the sky was actually truly blue, and that the rocky mountins appeared as soon as i hit the colorado border coming from the east
I'm from columbus ohio qand there we have more blacks and more crime than all of those states you mentioned
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You really got the point Dj.
We're not that old (45) but we're looking for a safe place with no crime to work and live.
Unfortunately here in Italy (even if we are north) crime rates are climbing and in general the quality of life is getting worse by the day compared to 10 years ago.
Europe is under a big immigration pressure and all services like hospitals, schools, transports are every day nearer to the point of no return.
We're studying the US regulation in order to have the right papers and looking for jobs so that it's all in place before leaving.
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You really got the point Dj.
We're not that old (45) but we're looking for a safe place with no crime to work and live.
Unfortunately here in Italy (even if we are north) crime rates are climbing and in general the quality of life is getting worse by the day compared to 10 years ago.
Europe is under a big immigration pressure and all services like hospitals, schools, transports are every day nearer to the point of no return.
We're studying the US regulation in order to have the right papers and looking for jobs so that it's all in place before leaving.
I know that Montana has the least people per square Mile than any other state in the USA and utah has lots of Mormons
Mormons are a bit different but I do respect that they behave themselves very well and don't make hardly any sins at all
they don't use drugs or alcohol and don't even have set outside of marriage in general :) but as my uncles.woulf say they are kinda dull/boring and according to them if you compare their lives to them they'd say theirlive Iis like being shot out of a cannon everyday as they as dull as hell ;D
anyways if you have any more questions then don't hesitate to ask me
by the way, those states have the rocky mountains, and they are a cool thing go behold 8)
I'm sorry to hear that about Italy :(
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sorry about the quote mistake but hhopefully you're able to see where my post started without too much trouble
it's a damn pain in the ass pposting from my phone >:(
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No problem Dj.
Thanks a lot for your info, I'm trying to get as much knowledge as possible about this.
Also planning to visit Wyoming in august to get a clearer idea (also it would be nice to see the eclipse on 21st I believe).
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how you gonna get a us citizenship
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As a resident of Colorado I can vouch for both it's "robust" racial diversity and complete lack of "quiet" in Denver and Colorado Springs. The homeless population is INSANE, between the climate and the legal weed it has become the destination state of choice for those who consider employment beneath them, the homeless camps are utterly mind-blowing , until you've seen them you wouldn't believe it exists in such huge numbers. Literally every corner and on/off ramp has beggars. On the plus side it's a visually breathtaking state and weed is legal.
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how you gonna get a us citizenship
Thank God is not so easy as here in Europe: you must have a job (above all the will to work!), be educated and have financial stability.
It takes 5 years on average.
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Me and my wife are planning in the next few years to move to that area.
We both have a good job here and a university degree.
The idea of changing place to live is mostly due to the worsening of the situation here in Europe/Italy (you know for sure the reasons): we're looking for a quite and safe place to live.
I would like to have some constructive advice from those who live in these states in order to get a better idea for the final decision.
Of course we're planning holidays there (at least a couple of weeks) and more than once in order to get first-hand impressions.
Nevertheless any insights from people who are actually living there would be precious.
Thanks to all who will contribute.
Is it really that bad in Italy? Iv a mate who is living here, Ireland, since she's 8,shes 28 now and her parents and family are from Sicily, they own an Italian takeaway here, and she said Sicily hadn't been affected too bad yet by the refugee crisis
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You really got the point Dj.
We're not that old (45) but we're looking for a safe place with no crime to work and live.
Unfortunately here in Italy (even if we are north) crime rates are climbing and in general the quality of life is getting worse by the day compared to 10 years ago.
Europe is under a big immigration pressure and all services like hospitals, schools, transports are every day nearer to the point of no return.
We're studying the US regulation in order to have the right papers and looking for jobs so that it's all in place before leaving.
It's very, very sad that you came to the conclusion that it's best to leave your OWN country, but unfortunately those points are valid :-\
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well lots of italians left the old country for the us
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/94/Sopranos_ep211b.jpg)
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Is it really that bad in Italy? Iv a mate who is living here, Ireland, since she's 8,shes 28 now and her parents and family are from Sicily, they own an Italian takeaway here, and she said Sicily hadn't been affected too bad yet by the refugee crisis
Actually the situation is better in the south compared to the north (apart from the big camps and the nearby areas).
Most immigrants are coming to the north because regions (and their politicians) belongs more or less all to the left political party.
This means free home, pocket money every day and so on.
All of them receive free health care while normal people ought to pay 90% of it if not more (my case).
This is few lines is the situation.
Honestly I'm sick and tired of seeing disappear my rights and things that I worked hard to have.
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Actually the situation is better in the south compared to the north (apart from the big camps and the nearby areas).
Most immigrants are coming to the north because regions (and their politicians) belongs more or less all to the left political party.
This means free home, pocket money every day and so on.
All of them receive free health care while normal people ought to pay 90% of it if not more (my case).
This is few lines is the situation.
Honestly I'm sick and tired of seeing disappear my rights and things that I worked hard to have.
It's obviously not as bad here in Ireland yet but any recent migrants we do have get more than Irish people. I kid you not they protested and blocked off a street in this city because the refugee center didn't provide sky sports on the TVs. Myself and local pegida members, mostly polish guys living here, quickly disrupted their protest, I'll likely be facing a court appearance for assault but fuck it, a stand had to be made. But thats how cheeky and entitled the scum are
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It's very, very sad that you came to the conclusion that it's best to leave your OWN country, but unfortunately those points are valid :-\
I agree with you, it's quite sad but as long as you are an honest person with the will to work and improve yourself any place can be good.
Me and my wife we thought about US because we do believe it's one of the last places where if you're willing to do your best you can have what you deserve.
I do not want to sound racist but honestly I don't understand why someone who just jumped off a boat two days ago should have the same rights and access to services we had to work for (more than 20 years and our parents before).
I do not mean to offend anyone but before having something you must deserve it in my opinion.
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well lots of italians left the old country for the us
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/94/Sopranos_ep211b.jpg)
You are spot on RBB: people like these (in fact even worse) are the ones to whom Italy (and Europe) are giving free houses, money, health care.
What can they give us in return since the majority of them are not educated and above all they do not have the "culture" of working?
I see them everyday on my way to the office, walking around with smartphones and new sneakers, just hanging with their friends and obviously not working or seeking a job.
What can we do with this people? What is their contribution to our society?
Again I didn't mean to be racist, just telling as it is.
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I agree with you, it's quite sad but as long as you are an honest person with the will to work and improve yourself any place can be good.
Me and my wife we thought about US because we do believe it's one of the last places where if you're willing to do your best you can have what you deserve.
I do not want to sound racist but honestly I don't understand why someone who just jumped off a boat two days ago should have the same rights and access to services we had to work for (more than 20 years and our parents before).
I do not mean to offend anyone but before having something you must deserve it in my opinion.
And many true Europeans share the same feelings. Unfortunately most politicians don't care, or at least, they don't take action to stop this invasion.
The U.S. is prob a good choice, since you will meet many Americans with the same heritage.
You say 'you can have what you deserve'. Don't forget that there's also a lot a luck involved, but you're right, you will always need the right mindset (honest, hard working & positive) to accomplish things.
IMO, you're not racist at all. Your generation has worked hard for centuries with a once great country as a result, and now a significant part of your taxes goes to dumb and lazy fuckwits who are more busy with procreating than contributing to society. You see, they came from unstable & corrupt countries, so guess what prob will happen to Europe...
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(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/94/Sopranos_ep211b.jpg)
You are spot on RBB: people like these (in fact even worse) are the ones to whom Italy (and Europe) are giving free houses, money, health care.
What can they give us in return since the majority of them are not educated and above all they do not have the "culture" of working?
I see them everyday on my way to the office, walking around with smartphones and new sneakers, just hanging with their friends and obviously not working or seeking a job.
What can we do with this people? What is their contribution to our society?
Again I didn't mean to be racist, just telling as it is.
Stephen contributed quite alot to society, he played guitar with Bruce Springsteen for years!
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Me and my wife are planning in the next few years to move to that area.
We both have a good job here and a university degree.
Nevertheless any insights from people who are actually living there would be precious.
Thanks to all who will contribute.
Well, Texas here...Houston, but I understand the United States rural West...I would recommend:
- The Capitol city of those states or
- Towns with the Major State Universities.
These will have the best opportunities for educated people.
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Well, Texas here...Houston, but I understand the United States rural West...I would recommend:
- The Capitol city of those states or
- Towns with the Major State Universities.
These will have the best opportunities for educated people.
This is good advice.
Montana is still very nice, I have a few friends that moved there from the NorthEast, and they absolutely love the outdoor lifestyle there. It is cold, and stays cold for long periods though, summers are mellow. They live close to Bozeman, and recommend there, Missoula, or Helena as being the most livable if you're use to urbanish living.
There are some foreigners, etc....., around, but Montana is still a pretty conservative, and many of them are tied to church work, so they are pretty squared away.
Know a few folks that live in Wyoming. They've always complained how closed off and desolate it feels during the winters.
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This is a sad thread. If it's really that bad in Europe it's only a matter of time for the white man ...
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Out of all the places in the US you could pick, why did you narrow it down to those?
Idaho, Montana and Utah are boring as hell.
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Ciao Italianlifter!
Didnt you make a similar post months ago?
Sorry if i'm mistaken.
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What a heap of fucking shit Europe has become when this is having to happen. Up here in Northumberland it isn't bad yet and hopefully will never be as there's fuck all here for the cu nts but I won't bank on it as ten miles south in Newcastle it's crawling with the vermin they have their own area, would truly hate to have your situation mate sorry to hear it
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Me and my wife are planning in the next few years to move to that area.
We both have a good job here and a university degree.
The idea of changing place to live is mostly due to the worsening of the situation here in Europe/Italy (you know for sure the reasons): we're looking for a quite and safe place to live.
I would like to have some constructive advice from those who live in these states in order to get a better idea for the final decision.
Of course we're planning holidays there (at least a couple of weeks) and more than once in order to get first-hand impressions.
Nevertheless any insights from people who are actually living there would be precious.
Thanks to all who will contribute.
Have you any idea about how freaking big and vast those mentioned States are compared to Italy or even europe?
You cant go on a holiday for a couple of weeks to get a good impression. Its to big bro
And stop beeing a scared poofter for a couple of immigrants.
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Have you any idea about how freaking big and vast those states are compared to Italy or even europe?
You cant go on a holiday for a couple of weeks to get a good impression. Its to big bro.
And stop beeing a scared poofter for a couple of immigrants. You are romans. Run em out if you dont like them.
'a couple'? Get your facts straight and bring a visit to an Italian city nearby the sea.
We might reach a point where citizens are that fed up by all these gold searchers.
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'a couple'? Get your facts straight and bring a visit to an Italian city nearby the sea.
We might reach a point where citizens are that fed up by all these gold searchers.
So step away from the internet and go kick the back into the sea if they bother you so much.
Not me I am starting an arabic language course. If you cant beat them join them.
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So step away from the internet and go kick the back into the sea if they bother you so much.
Not me I am starting an arabic language course. If you cant beat them join them.
Trolling is always the easy route to avoid a discussion about a serious topic ::)
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Well, Texas here...Houston, but I understand the United States rural West...I would recommend:
- The Capitol city of those states or
- Towns with the Major State Universities.
These will have the best opportunities for educated people.
Thanks a lot Sync.
Am I correct in saying that the majority of people in those States are state employees?
Got this info from a friend who travelled there quite recently.
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This is good advice.
Montana is still very nice, I have a few friends that moved there from the NorthEast, and they absolutely love the outdoor lifestyle there. It is cold, and stays cold for long periods though, summers are mellow. They live close to Bozeman, and recommend there, Missoula, or Helena as being the most livable if you're use to urbanish living.
There are some foreigners, etc....., around, but Montana is still a pretty conservative, and many of them are tied to church work, so they are pretty squared away.
Know a few folks that live in Wyoming. They've always complained how closed off and desolate it feels during the winters.
BB, I really would like a place in the country, also good if it's isolated, buy some land and stay there even if I have to drive some miles to work (I would also like to change from my German sedan to a nice truck btw ;D ).
I like horses (I had 2 in the past) so the outdoor lifestyle is what I'm looking for.
My wife on the other hand would prefer a more urban type of place but surely less chaotic and safe than big cities here...you know the old saying "happy wife, happy life"...
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Out of all the places in the US you could pick, why did you narrow it down to those?
Idaho, Montana and Utah are boring as hell.
Why you consider these places boring LNM? Explain me better since I'm trying to get a much clearer idea.
We were thinking about this area because we're looking for a nice and safe place to live, far from crime, hopefully with job opportunities and with beautiful landscapes.
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Ciao Italianlifter!
Didnt you make a similar post months ago?
Sorry if i'm mistaken.
Ciao Azzaro, you're correct.
We were considering to move also a couple of years ago.
It was just a project at that time because of many reasons (family, work etc ): simply put it wasn't the right time.
Now it's all settled down so we can really start doing something.
We don't have children so there will be no issues (losing friends, changing school etc), once it's all clear we'll sell most of the things here and move on.
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Well, Texas here...Houston, but I understand the United States rural West...I would recommend:
- The Capitol city of those states or
- Towns with the Major State Universities.
These will have the best opportunities for educated people.
Boise, Idaho would certainly fit that criteria.
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Have you any idea about how freaking big and vast those mentioned States are compared to Italy or even europe?
You cant go on a holiday for a couple of weeks to get a good impression. Its to big bro
And stop beeing a scared poofter for a couple of immigrants.
I get your point Olke, all friends who went to the US told me that: the sheer size of those areas are difficult to understand for us Europeans.
When I drive to Rome for work I cover roughly 350 miles and for us it's a lot, but it's nothing if you live in those States.
We'll need to get used to it.
As for immigrants we're not scared, we're sick and tired: there are small towns nearby (say 500 to 1000 inhabitants) who are forced by government to receive 500, 600 of them, sometimes even more.
It just don't make sense anymore.
This is affecting not only safety and crime rates, it's also putting all services (schools, hospitals etc etc) on the edge of collapse.
I give you an example: few weeks ago I needed to have my shoulders checked because of calcium deposits and in the local hospital the waiting time was 8 months.
Did it the next day in a private clinic, but those who can't afford it are compelled to wait and maybe for far more serious issues than a sore shoulder.
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Maybe Reno, Nevada would be another option. Quarter million people. 20 minutes away from Lake Tahoe.
Flagstaff, AZ has really nice scenery but do not know much about job prospects.
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I get your point Olke, all friends who went to the US told me that: the sheer size of those areas are difficult to understand for us Europeans.
When I drive to Rome for work I cover roughly 350 miles and for us it's a lot, but it's nothing if you live in those States.
We'll need to get used to it.
As for immigrants we're not scared, we're sick and tired: there are small towns nearby (say 500 to 1000 inhabitants) who are forced by government to receive 500, 600 of them, sometimes even more.
It just don't make sense anymore.
This is affecting not only safety and crime rates, it's also putting all services (schools, hospitals etc etc) on the edge of collapse.
I give you an example: few weeks ago I needed to have my shoulders checked because of calcium deposits and in the local hospital the waiting time was 8 months.
Did it the next day in a private clinic, but those who can't afford it are compelled to wait and maybe for far more serious issues than a sore shoulder.
I can imagine this is not a good situation and that you might have had enough of it all. But maybe in a couple of years thing are different and al lot of problems will be resolved. In that case you might have regrets about moving tot the USA. Immigration is often very hard to do and not always worth starting all over again and leaving family behind on another continent. But that is just me.
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I moved two times in my life, changing city (first time to go to University and second because of my job) and you're right in saying it can be tough.
Your idea that things can change is the result (good) of living in the US I believe.
And this is another reason why I'm planning all this: you see in Europe people are more or less fatalist about their future since politics are only taking wrong directions.
It is not realistic to believe that in a couple of years things will improve: by looking at the last 10 years all we saw was involution and the final result is we're totally losing control of the situation.
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It's obviously not as bad here in Ireland yet but any recent migrants we do have get more than Irish people. I kid you not they protested and blocked off a street in this city because the refugee center didn't provide sky sports on the TVs. Myself and local pegida members, mostly polish guys living here, quickly disrupted their protest, I'll likely be facing a court appearance for assault but fuck it, a stand had to be made. But thats how cheeky and entitled the scum are
I was in Dublin in 1990 to study English, such a nice place.
People were so kind and helpful with us students, I was in Dundram (sp?) living with an Irish family for one month.
During the day I attended school and in the evening to pay my stay I was selling fried chips and chickens at a local store ;D
Those were the days!
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So far I've moved more then 10 times. Moving itself sucks, but there's no price tag for all the experiences, the people I've met and the inspiration as a result from that.
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Chaos is coming to Europe.
The US, for all its faults and problems, seems like a nice option in parts given you're a well performing person. Its vast territory alone is worth the "gamble".
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Why you consider these places boring LNM? Explain me better since I'm trying to get a much clearer idea.
We were thinking about this area because we're looking for a nice and safe place to live, far from crime, hopefully with job opportunities and with beautiful landscapes.
They are boring to me because there simply isn't anything to do there. I live in Ft Lauderdale. The beach is .8 miles away. Beautiful weather year around, low humidity (compared to most places), not fast paced like NYC but not slow like Memphis either.
It really depends on what your interests are. When I moved here I wanted : 1) a place with great weather as the pollen season in GA absolutely crippled me every year 2) a place near the beach 3) a place that supported my career path (health care field). I chose here.
I have a side gig that I do photography for a tour company that sells dream vacations. 5-7 weeks a year I travel around and have been lucky enough to have trotted all over the world. While Ft Lauderdale is not a metropolis or fast paced culture hub like NYC, LA, etc.... it is still good enough keep my wanderlust in check a bit. Which would be completely unlikely in places like Utah, Idaho, etc..
It just comes down to what you like and a balance of social/professional/personal tastes. But saying "far from crime" isn't really cutting it. There is crime every where.
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Thanks a lot Sync.
Am I correct in saying that the majority of people in those States are state employees?
Got this info from a friend who travelled there quite recently.
Most of the prosperous people are state employees in these states.
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I was in Dublin in 1990 to study English, such a nice place.
People were so kind and helpful with us students, I was in Dundram (sp?) living with an Irish family for one month.
During the day I attended school and in the evening to pay my stay I was selling fried chips and chickens at a local store ;D
Those were the days!
Dundrum man
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I moved two times in my life, changing city (first time to go to University and second because of my job) and you're right in saying it can be tough.
Your idea that things can change is the result (good) of living in the US I believe.
And this is another reason why I'm planning all this: you see in Europe people are more or less fatalist about their future since politics are only taking wrong directions.
It is not realistic to believe that in a couple of years things will improve: by looking at the last 10 years all we saw was involution and the final result is we're totally losing control of the situation.
I also live in Europe. So I undertand what you are saying.
Keep us posted on your immigration plans bro.
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So step away from the internet and go kick the back into the sea if they bother you so much.
Not me I am starting an arabic language course. If you cant beat them join them.
You are exactly what I was referring to in another thread. You'll be converting to that terrorist cult soon enough.
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You really got the point Dj.
We're not that old (45) but we're looking for a safe place with no crime to work and live.
Unfortunately here in Italy (even if we are north) crime rates are climbing and in general the quality of life is getting worse by the day compared to 10 years ago.
Europe is under a big immigration pressure and all services like hospitals, schools, transports are every day nearer to the point of no return.
We're studying the US regulation in order to have the right papers and looking for jobs so that it's all in place before leaving.
what are your lifts these days seeing where your strength level is at
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Why you consider these places boring LNM? Explain me better since I'm trying to get a much clearer idea.
We were thinking about this area because we're looking for a nice and safe place to live, far from crime, hopefully with job opportunities and with beautiful landscapes.
Idaho and Montana are probably not booming with jobs.
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You are exactly what I was referring to in another thread. You'll be converting to that terrorist cult soon enough.
OK
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Idaho and Montana are probably not booming with jobs.
but not many Asian toads such as yourself live there thank god
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the only fear I have is our'amici'will not find buffalo mozzarella,sopressata,good semolina,or a nice bottle of brunello in Wyoming/Idaho...
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the only fear I have is our'amici'will not find buffalo mozzarella,sopressata,good semolina,or a nice bottle of brunello in Wyoming/Idaho...
in my city shittylumbus eyetalin American females had the best asses BAR NONE
i worked at several gyms there and i clearly remember when ever i spotted a hot as I'd always check their surname out the f curiousity and 4 out of 5 times she'd have an eyetalin surname, I shit you not
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So far I've moved more then 10 times. Moving itself sucks, but there's no price tag for all the experiences, the people I've met and the inspiration as a result from that.
It'll be challenging for sure but given the situation and its more than likely evolution, this seems to be my best chance.
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in my city shittylumbus eyetalin American females had the best asses BAR NONE
i worked at several gyms there and i clearly remember when ever i spotted a hot as I'd always check their surname out the f curiousity and 4 out of 5 times she'd have an eyetalin surname, I shit you not
most big cities have a 'little italy'in there area...new yawk has the true one and also arther avenue in da Bronx is well known for every Italian speciality shop in that area 'butchers/bakeries'panetteria'gastronomias'deli's...
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They are boring to me because there simply isn't anything to do there. I live in Ft Lauderdale. The beach is .8 miles away. Beautiful weather year around, low humidity (compared to most places), not fast paced like NYC but not slow like Memphis either.
It really depends on what your interests are. When I moved here I wanted : 1) a place with great weather as the pollen season in GA absolutely crippled me every year 2) a place near the beach 3) a place that supported my career path (health care field). I chose here.
I have a side gig that I do photography for a tour company that sells dream vacations. 5-7 weeks a year I travel around and have been lucky enough to have trotted all over the world. While Ft Lauderdale is not a metropolis or fast paced culture hub like NYC, LA, etc.... it is still good enough keep my wanderlust in check a bit. Which would be completely unlikely in places like Utah, Idaho, etc..
It just comes down to what you like and a balance of social/professional/personal tastes. But saying "far from crime" isn't really cutting it. There is crime every where.
Thanks for the insights, this is helping me getting a much clearer idea.
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It'll be challenging for sure but given the situation and its more than likely evolution, this seems to be my best chance.
:)
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Idaho and Montana are probably not booming with jobs.
Why so? Slow economy?
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Thanks for the insights, this is helping me getting a much clearer idea.
No problem. But really it comes down to how you balance all aspects of your life in making a decision. If you are an outdoorsy type guy, then Colorado would be great for hiking, camping, hunting, fishing, etc... Montana has some great hunting as well.
You are already married so no need to factor in fresh pussy aspect of any place you are considering. For single guys chasing the poon I would suggest other locations.
At this point it would appear the most important factor would be from a professional prospective. Which area supports your career and profession? Is the market good? One over saturated with positions is just as bad as ones as places without enough.
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the only fear I have is our'amici'will not find buffalo mozzarella,sopressata,good semolina,or a nice bottle of brunello in Wyoming/Idaho...
This is why I'll invite friends ;D
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No problem. But really it comes down to how you balance all aspects of your life in making a decision. If you are an outdoorsy type guy, then Colorado would be great for hiking, camping, hunting, fishing, etc... Montana has some great hunting as well.
You are already married so no need to factor in fresh pussy aspect of any place you are considering. For single guys chasing the poon I would suggest other locations.
At this point it would appear the most important factor would be from a professional prospective. Which area supports your career and profession? Is the market good? One over saturated with positions is just as bad as ones as places without enough.
This is true, I'm quite outdoorsy mostly due to all the work hours in an office.
As for pussy the days of "chasing the poon" are gone so no need to find good places for that.
I know maybe you'll laugh but also it would be great to have no traffic jams and find parking easily (note that I'm not driving an Hummer but an Audi A6).
Most of my time is dedicated now to getting a better idea concerning job opportunities checking the web, as you said saturated positions equals to no places at all.
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This is why I'll invite friends ;D
TUTTI BENE,,,MANGIA BELLO..
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No problem. But really it comes down to how you balance all aspects of your life in making a decision. If you are an outdoorsy type guy, then Colorado would be great for hiking, camping, hunting, fishing, etc... Montana has some great hunting as well.
You are already married so no need to factor in fresh pussy aspect of any place you are considering. For single guys chasing the poon I would suggest other locations.
At this point it would appear the most important factor would be from a professional prospective. Which area supports your career and profession? Is the market good? One over saturated with positions is just as bad as ones as places without enough.
each city has their own best place, ie. safest most cash best looking
in my city of Columbus the best areas are Upper Arlington and New Albany CLASS 8)
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Didn't think Italy had it that bad. I assumed the migrants were mostly using Italy as just a pit stop as they make their way further north to England/France/Germany...etc.
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Didn't think Italy had it that bad. I assumed the migrants were mostly using Italy as just a pit stop as they make their way further north to England/France/Germany...etc.
PROBEM IN ITALY IS SOUTHERN 'SICILY'IS BEING OVERTAKEN WITH AFRICAN REFUGEES'WHO ARE LIVING IN STREETS,BY BOATLOADS..
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Why so? Slow economy?
Montanas state population is 1.043 million
Idahos state population is 1.683 million
New York state population 20 million
California state population 39.25 million
Do you think Montana and Idaho is going to be exploding with jobs? Probably not. Granted, less people are probably applying for positions in Montana or Idaho. However, with a population that small, jobs are most likely not booming.
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How do you think to move in the US?Getting hired by a company that will sponsor your stay is so hard to do nowadays.Or you could get an investor visa which will grant you the green card and later a citizenship if you invest 1.5m.You never said anything about your legal status.Moving here and settle is easy.What's most important is how you plan to get here.
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Bend OR is beautiful but expensive and jobs are thin. Montana and Wyoming are some of the most beautiful places on earth but work is very slim and pay rate is 60% comparable to other states. Winters are also long. Natural not man rule in those areas and you have to be comfortable with that.
Colorado has lots of work but cost of living is high and the politics is iffy. It used to be a solid conservative state but there's been an influx of of middle class people coming from Seattle, Portland and California (ironically because of the tax rate and property expenses) and they've gotten themselves into power...and they've instituted some of the same retarded progressive policies that caused them to leave.
For work opportunities, 0% state income tax, low cost of living and cheap housing you can't beat Texas...but it's hot :)
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Thats gold bro, gold!!
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Mentioned states :
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Didn't think Italy had it that bad. I assumed the migrants were mostly using Italy as just a pit stop as they make their way further north to England/France/Germany...etc.
Maybe in the past Ted, now for example France has closed its frontiers and Austria send tanks and soldiers to the border with Italy...
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Montanas state population is 1.043 million
Idahos state population is 1.683 million
New York state population 20 million
California state population 39.25 million
Do you think Montana and Idaho is going to be exploding with jobs? Probably not. Granted, less people are probably applying for positions in Montana or Idaho. However, with a population that small, jobs are most likely not booming.
I guess you are right SF, currently I'm searching a job on these web sites, but it will be a long process.
Indeed.com
SimplyHired.com
Monster.com
Glassdoor.com
Idealist.org
Internships.com
USAJobs.gov
The Wall Street Journal Careers Site
Dice.com
About.com/careers
Jobbook.com
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How do you think to move in the US?Getting hired by a company that will sponsor your stay is so hard to do nowadays.Or you could get an investor visa which will grant you the green card and later a citizenship if you invest 1.5m.You never said anything about your legal status.Moving here and settle is easy.What's most important is how you plan to get here.
Since Italy is part of the "Visa Waiver Program" I'll have the possibility to stay and visit for maximum 90 days.
This will be the first step in order to get an idea and have jobs interviews.
Then in order to stay more I'll need a VISA: after being hired I'll apply for an H, L, O, P or Q one so that I can actually work for an American company.
In order to have this the company will have to apply for it.
If you perform well (which I intend to do) the company can give to the worker the Green Card.
This is more or less the idea.
It will not be easy but at least in US the rules are clear and above all the same for everybody.
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Bend OR is beautiful but expensive and jobs are thin. Montana and Wyoming are some of the most beautiful places on earth but work is very slim and pay rate is 60% comparable to other states. Winters are also long. Natural not man rule in those areas and you have to be comfortable with that.
Colorado has lots of work but cost of living is high and the politics is iffy. It used to be a solid conservative state but there's been an influx of of middle class people coming from Seattle, Portland and California (ironically because of the tax rate and property expenses) and they've gotten themselves into power...and they've instituted some of the same retarded progressive policies that caused them to leave.
For work opportunities, 0% state income tax, low cost of living and cheap housing you can't beat Texas...but it's hot :)
Didn't know about the 0% income tax in Texas.
I'm still studying all this and your help is much appreciated for sure.
Not to offend anyone but I'm def looking for a conservative state for all the reasons you might imagine.
I also have to check how to keep my handguns and rifles, if the procedure is not too complicated I would like to bring them all with me, otherwise I guess I'll have to sell them and buy new ones there.
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Mentioned states :
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Boring and cold? ;D
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I highly recommend Mississippi for you.
but ye.. how the hell do you plan on getting a company to sponsor your euro ass? Unless you're from a 3rd world country and can get a H1B visa your chances are slim. Better if you check out Australia instead.
Why you suggest Mississippi Sizwe?
About the procedure I'm studying check what I wrote to BBFan.
Australia: my aunt moved there about two years ago and she's loving it, but she's retired and not in need for a job like me.
Also she loves the weather there which I do not.
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I guess you are right SF, currently I'm searching a job on these web sites, but it will be a long process.
Indeed.com
SimplyHired.com
Monster.com
Glassdoor.com
Idealist.org
Internships.com
USAJobs.gov
The Wall Street Journal Careers Site
Dice.com
About.com/careers
Jobbook.com
I'm sure you'll find something! Just keep looking.
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Montanas state population is 1.043 million
Idahos state population is 1.683 million
New York state population 20 million
California state population 39.25 million
Do you think Montana and Idaho is going to be exploding with jobs? Probably not. Granted, less people are probably applying for positions in Montana or Idaho. However, with a population that small, jobs are most likely not booming.
Omg these states are empty! The scenery / nature must be fantastic!
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I once drove from Boise to Denver along I84, I80, and I25, which go through Utah and Wyoming. I would recommend you make to same drive to evaluate the differences between these states. It was majestically beautiful and at times completely isolated.
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Omg these states are empty! The scenery / nature must be fantastic!
Great places for someone who works from home, like a writer, artist or programmer
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Omg these states are empty! The scenery / nature must be fantastic!
When I drove from Boise to Ogden I made sure to stop for gas at every station I saw because there was nothing out there and if you get low on gas it might be sixty miles to the next station.
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The suicide rates in the US are 13.0 deaths in 100,000. Some states in the US have recorded rates that are higher than the overall rates in the country, and this includes Alaska which has the highest rate at 21.8. Other states with high suicide rates include Montana with 20.4 deaths, Nevada with 18.4 deaths, Colorado at 16.7, West Virginia (16.6), Arizona (15.9), Kentucky (15.3), Idaho (14.9), North Dakota (14.9), Oklahoma (14.7), Maine (14.5), Utah (14.3), Vermont (14.3), Arkansas (14.2), Florida (14.2), Kansas (13.8), Missouri (13.7) and Tennessee (13.7). The causes for the high suicide rates have been stated as access to firearms, mental illnesses, substance abuse, and poor access to medical care for mental illnesses.
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I guess you are right SF, currently I'm searching a job on these web sites, but it will be a long process.
Indeed.com
SimplyHired.com
Monster.com
Glassdoor.com
Idealist.org
Internships.com
USAJobs.gov
The Wall Street Journal Careers Site
Dice.com
About.com/careers
Jobbook.com
What is it you do?
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I once drove from Boise to Denver along I84, I80, and I25, which go through Utah and Wyoming. I would recommend you make to same drive to evaluate the differences between these states. It was majestically beautiful and at times completely isolated.
That's more than 800 miles.
You stopped for one night or did it in just one day?
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The suicide rates in the US are 13.0 deaths in 100,000. Some states in the US have recorded rates that are higher than the overall rates in the country, and this includes Alaska which has the highest rate at 21.8. Other states with high suicide rates include Montana with 20.4 deaths, Nevada with 18.4 deaths, Colorado at 16.7, West Virginia (16.6), Arizona (15.9), Kentucky (15.3), Idaho (14.9), North Dakota (14.9), Oklahoma (14.7), Maine (14.5), Utah (14.3), Vermont (14.3), Arkansas (14.2), Florida (14.2), Kansas (13.8), Missouri (13.7) and Tennessee (13.7). The causes for the high suicide rates have been stated as access to firearms, mental illnesses, substance abuse, and poor access to medical care for mental illnesses.
I don't get your point Derrik, maybe you meant to underline that these States are quite isolated? But on the other side the main causes for suicides are mental illnesses and substance abuse which can be high in every city.
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Great places for someone who works from home, like a writer, artist or programmer
I did that in the past, to help pay bill when I was at University, it's good since you work mostly at home, but the problem is you never stop working.
Since you're doing it at home it just become normal to go on working even after dinner or late at night.
As with all things there is good and bad I guess.
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I did that in the past, to help pay bill when I was at University, it's good since you work mostly at home, but the problem is you never stop working.
Since you're doing it at home it just become normal to go on working even after dinner or late at night.
As with all things there is good and bad I guess.
Working at home has it's pros & cons. I guess it just depends on your personality and circumstances if it works in your advantage or not. Creating a healthy balance between work and private life can also become a challenge for those who work on an office. I mean, how many people have a corporate laptop & phone these days? The thing is that most folks don't dare to say 'no' to their boss, esp during tough economic times.
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That's more than 800 miles.
You stopped for one night or did it in just one day?
Alot of those western states have speed limits of 75 and sometimes 80 mph.
Bring along some Craze or old school Ultimate Orange and you could knock out that trip, no problems.
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You have to wonder about these people. The gold rush is over. Why are they still there?
El Diablo Blanco.
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That's more than 800 miles.
You stopped for one night or did it in just one day?
The whole trip was 2000 miles. That was just the part through the states you're interested in. I stopped by 10:00 pm every night and stayed at a hotel.
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Working at home has it's pros & cons. I guess it just depends on your personality and circumstances if it works in your advantage or not. Creating a healthy balance between work and private life can also become a challenge for those who work on an office. I mean, how many people have a corporate laptop & phone these days? The thing is that most folks don't dare to say 'no' to their boss, esp during tough economic times.
That is exactly my case: after years working 13, 14 hours a day my wife was getting mad and we were facing a crisis.
Took me quite an effort to see she was right and in the end I changed my habits, but not so much in reality.
I mostly try to do my best with her in my free time: dinner out, a weekend here and there to the spa and so on...
But I still have to check my emails constantly ;D ;D ;D
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Alot of those western states have speed limits of 75 and sometimes 80 mph.
Bring along some Craze or old school Ultimate Orange and you could knock out that trip, no problems.
80 mph is not bad at all, in my ignorance I was assuming the (in)famous 55 mph limit was almost everywhere in the US.
But if you have just to go from A to B you almost always want to rush it, if instead you can look at beautiful landscapes going slower can be fine.
Travelling for work I frequently do more than 600 miles in a day, but mostly in Germany and France where you can reasonably go at the speed you want without problems.
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You have to wonder about these people. The gold rush is over. Why are they still there?
El Diablo Blanco.
Which people Phoenix?
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The whole trip was 2000 miles. That was just the part through the states you're interested in. I stopped by 10:00 pm every night and stayed at a hotel.
2000 miles?? Which was your itinerary?
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That is exactly my case: after years working 13, 14 hours a day my wife was getting mad and we were facing a crisis.
Took me quite an effort to see she was right and in the end I changed my habits, but not so much in reality.
I mostly try to do my best with her in my free time: dinner out, a weekend here and there to the spa and so on...
But I still have to check my emails constantly ;D ;D ;D
I know this is an off-topic, but I've got a nice challenge for you: leave your phone/laptop at home.
Being a workaholic, a friend of mine lost his beautiful girlfriend. Face it, someone else who's checking his/her screen every x minutes is fucking annoying.
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I know this is an off-topic, but I've got a nice challenge for you: leave your phone/laptop at home.
Being a workaholic, a friend of mine lost his beautiful girlfriend. Face it, someone else who's checking his/her screen every x minutes is fucking annoying.
To be honest I have to say you're right Drop, but my company although not so big by Us standards has customers in almost all time zones.
It starts early in the morning with Japan, Thailand and Indonesia and the day ends quite late with folks from Us, Mexico and Brazil.
Being a salesman nowadays puts you constantly under pressure since you're facing hard competition and time to revert with answers and quotations ought to be faster and faster.
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To be honest I have to say you're right Drop, but my company although not so big by Us standards has customers in almost all time zones.
It starts early in the morning with Japan, Thailand and Indonesia and the day ends quite late with folks from Us, Mexico and Brazil.
Being a salesman nowadays puts you constantly under pressure since you're facing hard competition and time to revert with answers and quotations ought to be faster and faster.
And I'm sorry for being right ;D
All kidding aside, I get what you're saying. My ex was working as a senior buyer for an electronics company, so most of the business was with China, Taiwan, etc. The average order was the equivalent of a nice car, so they responded right away and treated her like a queen when she was sourcing.
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You get my point damn well. Also working with Asian people is quite crazy (at least in my type of business) : sometimes I wonder if they even sleep at all!
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all asians probably look the same to you so half the time its his brother.
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all asians probably look the same to you so half the time its his brother.
You know what really amazes me the most? Say 50% of managers in charge of big companies do speak English like my 86 yo mom.
Mine is far from perfect but it can be very tricky at times trying to reach them and speak over the phone.
Yet they're dominating most Markets since they're smart, hard workers although not always correct (lots of unfair trading etc etc).
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I like this place: https://sheridanwy.net/
http://www.countryliving.com/life/news/g4641/happiest-small-towns-in-america/?slide=22&thumbnails=
Might be worth a visit sooner or later.
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Me and my wife are planning in the next few years to move to that area.
We both have a good job here and a university degree.
The idea of changing place to live is mostly due to the worsening of the situation here in Europe/Italy (you know for sure the reasons): we're looking for a quite and safe place to live.
I would like to have some constructive advice from those who live in these states in order to get a better idea for the final decision.
Of course we're planning holidays there (at least a couple of weeks) and more than once in order to get first-hand impressions.
Nevertheless any insights from people who are actually living there would be precious.
Thanks to all who will contribute.
I wasnt aware things in Italy were so bad. I live in Portugal and fortunately we dont suffer the migrant invasion, because wellfare here was cut in half due to our chronic economical crisis.
If you find a good job oportunity in Portugal, you will be safer here than going to the States, and climate and culturally wise, you wont see big changes. Its very easy to understand portuguese, for italians.
The only catch is that good job opportunities are rare, but there has been some improvement in that area.
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Hi Falco, many old fellas relocate from Italy to Portugal because of the 0% taxation on income for the first 10 years, while in Italy you have a 45% plus taxation on it.
As for me since I have hopefully many years ahead to work and as far as I know Portugal's job offer seems to be not so high I didn't take that in consideration for my future plans.
Many friends went there on holiday and all of them told me the place is truly amazing: good food, nice places, very friendly and open people, cheap prices also.
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Me and my wife are planning in the next few years to move to that area.
We both have a good job here and a university degree.
The idea of changing place to live is mostly due to the worsening of the situation here in Europe/Italy (you know for sure the reasons): we're looking for a quite and safe place to live.
I would like to have some constructive advice from those who live in these states in order to get a better idea for the final decision.
Of course we're planning holidays there (at least a couple of weeks) and more than once in order to get first-hand impressions.
Nevertheless any insights from people who are actually living there would be precious.
Thanks to all who will contribute.
All states with incredibly beautiful scenery. Great choices! Hard to beat the great state of Colorado. It's expensive though.
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I think that colorado is more multicultural, more races, with whites still being the majority but a decent number of Hispanics and more backs than the other states
another uncle of mine lived in denver for a few years and I went to visit him twice, I also visited a friend who lived in colorado springs, and what i rememeber is that the sky was actually truly blue, and that the rocky mountins appeared as soon as i hit the colorado border coming from the east
I'm from columbus ohio qand there we have more blacks and more crime than all of those states you mentioned
More people will be moving to Colorado due to the medical marijuana. And they are now having problem with panhandlers who are begging for money just to buy marijuana. So there is now a growing "weed head" population. Also, more and more children are being born with marijuana in their systems. So, who knows how this will affect mental health issues in the children in the future.
Utah, is probably the best bet.