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Title: Gurus: Nearly all worthless
Post by: BBSSchlemiel on August 03, 2017, 03:41:17 AM
Lyle Mickey Dee, Alan Aragon, Mike Israetel, Ben Pakulski... all nothing special.

Keep quoting them as if they're gods with special knowledge. You don't have to.
Title: Re: Gurus: nearly all worthless
Post by: Mr Anabolic on August 03, 2017, 03:53:11 AM
Agreed.   All roids and diuretics
Title: Re: Gurus: nearly all worthless
Post by: dj181 on August 03, 2017, 04:42:10 AM
Aragon is a very cool name, too bad he is just some low level Asian turd
Title: Re: Gurus: nearly all worthless
Post by: Thin Lizzy on August 03, 2017, 05:14:00 AM
A bunch of tools trying to turn eating into a science project when it really comes down to a few simple guidelines. The rest of it comes down to how well you execute.
Title: Re: Gurus: nearly all worthless
Post by: _bruce_ on August 03, 2017, 05:17:50 AM
Ben "Buff" Affleck seal of approval.
Title: Re: Gurus: nearly all worthless
Post by: falco on August 03, 2017, 05:50:37 AM
Aragon is a very cool name, too bad he is just some low level Asian turd

Aragon is a beautiful region of Spain.
Title: Re: Gurus: nearly all worthless
Post by: dj181 on August 03, 2017, 05:57:54 AM
Aragon is a beautiful region of Spain.

that's an awesome surname another is Stonerock

I got a friend from Vigo he's a good hombre
Title: Re: Gurus: nearly all worthless
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on August 03, 2017, 06:40:53 AM
Not sure.  I would love to have a year with Chris Aceto to see what he can do with my physique.
Title: Re: Gurus: nearly all worthless
Post by: BBSSchlemiel on August 03, 2017, 06:45:18 AM
Not sure.  I would love to have a year with Chris Aceto to see what he can do with my physique.

Chris actually knows what to do and doesn't run around acting like he has special info. He's just competent.
Title: Re: Gurus: nearly all worthless
Post by: milone79 on August 03, 2017, 06:49:47 AM
Chris actually knows what to do and doesn't run around acting like he has special info. He's just competent.

haha sure he does....lmao

they are all just dealers...also Israetel and Aragon are in a league above the scum bags you mentioned....actual scientists who do real research!!
Title: Re: Gurus: nearly all worthless
Post by: BBSSchlemiel on August 03, 2017, 07:35:16 AM
haha sure he does....lmao

they are all just dealers...also Israetel and Aragon are in a league above the scum bags you mentioned....actual scientists who do real research!!


So much science and research that they can't even put it together for themselves.
Title: Re: Gurus: nearly all worthless
Post by: Taffin on August 03, 2017, 12:26:41 PM
Aragon is a beautiful region of Spain.

I got a friend from Vigo he's a good hombre

 :D

(https://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/lotr/images/b/b6/Aragorn_profile.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20170121121423)
Title: Re: Gurus: nearly all worthless
Post by: BEEFYHEAVYWEIGHT on August 03, 2017, 01:11:49 PM
Yes....at least Aceto truly was a solid competitor in the late 80's AAU.
Title: Re: Gurus: nearly all worthless
Post by: dj181 on August 03, 2017, 02:16:39 PM
^^^ is that arm even 16 inches?

Title: Re: Gurus: nearly all worthless
Post by: DroppingPlates on August 03, 2017, 02:30:15 PM
It depends... It sure helps when someone has a critical eye, but you don't necessary need a coach for that. Most gyms don't know shit about contest preps.
Title: Re: Gurus: nearly all worthless
Post by: OLKE_TEXAS on August 03, 2017, 02:31:21 PM
Yes....at least Aceto truly was a solid competitor in the late 80's AAU.

Impressive
Title: Re: Gurus: nearly all worthless
Post by: Simple Simon on August 03, 2017, 02:43:47 PM
^^^ is that arm even 16 inches?


I hope you are a gimmick...
Title: Re: Gurus: nearly all worthless
Post by: dj181 on August 03, 2017, 03:00:23 PM
I hope you are a gimmick...

welp I'm not, I AM the real DJer

outstanding in the physical realm ie. A superbly athletic individual with a very hard right hand

and an incredibly intelligent individual

and yes that arm is tiny for his lean bodyweight

what's he weigh there? over 2 bills I'd say

nearly 16 inch arms at over 2 bills BWHAHAHHABBABABABBABBBAB AAAA!!!!!!

fyi,  Mike Mentzer had ripped stage er easy arms @ 18 5/8 @ just over 2 bills

fyi2,  Richard Baldwin had ripped stage ready arms @ 17 3/4 @ a buck 75

BOOOOOOMMMMMMMMM
Title: Re: Gurus: nearly all worthless
Post by: DroppingPlates on August 03, 2017, 03:10:07 PM
welp I'm not, I AM the real DJer

outstanding in the physical realm ie. A superbly athletic individual with a very hard right hand

and an incredibly intelligent individual

and yes that arm is tiny for his lean bodyweight

what's he weigh there? over 2 bills I'd say

nearly 16 inch arms at over 2 bills BWHAHAHHABBABABABBABBBAB AAAA!!!!!!

fyi,  Mike Mentzer had ripped stage er easy arms @ 18 5/8 @ just over 2 bills

fyi2,  Richard Baldwin had ripped stage ready arms @ 17 3/4 @ a buck 75

BOOOOOOMMMMMMMMM

While typing all this nonsense, you seem to have a good time..
Title: Re: Gurus: nearly all worthless
Post by: Rudee on August 03, 2017, 05:03:48 PM
What I find hilarious is people who pay Charles Glass thousands of dollars to make up silly exercises on the fly.
Title: Re: Gurus: nearly all worthless
Post by: DanzigBrah on August 03, 2017, 06:53:03 PM
George Farrah is da best, dude was shot as a drug dea....0i mean police officer in New York, he was definitely a police officer why would he lie about that, he da best trainer there is.
Title: Re: Gurus: Nearly all worthless
Post by: Ron on August 03, 2017, 06:58:09 PM

Gurus are not worthless - they are there to provide information and to help you in knowledge, and help motivate and build you to where you desire to be.

Of course, you need to find the right one because of these 'gurus' spew out nonsense or give out the same info to different competitors, which does not work. 

For every competitor that praises a guru, there a lot that complain a ton about them too, and how they screwed them out or did not do what they said they would.

So like any coach, any teacher - you need to find the right one, and if it doesnt feel right, get rid of that person until you find one that makes sense. Which is not easy.
Title: Re: Gurus: nearly all worthless
Post by: cephissus on August 03, 2017, 07:31:54 PM
welp I'm not, I AM the real DJer

outstanding in the physical realm ie. A superbly athletic individual with a very hard right hand

and an incredibly intelligent individual

and yes that arm is tiny for his lean bodyweight

what's he weigh there? over 2 bills I'd say

nearly 16 inch arms at over 2 bills BWHAHAHHABBABABABBABBBAB AAAA!!!!!!

fyi,  Mike Mentzer had ripped stage er easy arms @ 18 5/8 @ just over 2 bills

fyi2,  Richard Baldwin had ripped stage ready arms @ 17 3/4 @ a buck 75

BOOOOOOMMMMMMMMM

You aren't smart.  You're not  a narcissist.  You're a resentful little worm who can't accept his position in life.
Title: Re: Gurus: Nearly all worthless
Post by: TheAnimal on August 03, 2017, 07:39:01 PM
(http://www.ambal.ru/72555107679.jpg)
Title: Re: Gurus: nearly all worthless
Post by: Van_Bilderass on August 03, 2017, 11:53:54 PM
What I find hilarious is people who pay Charles Glass thousands of dollars to make up silly exercises on the fly.

Charles does all these fancy exercises and unorthodox use of machines, probably dreamed up in a weed haze, but he has not once changed the shape or proportions of a single pro. Trying new things is fun but genetics reigns supreme and you can't shape a muscle and you can't bring up poor parts as a pro - maybe to a very tiny degree.
Title: Re: Gurus: nearly all worthless
Post by: heenok on August 04, 2017, 01:59:51 AM
So much science and research that they can't even put it together for themselves.

Based on looks Phil Heath should be the best coach and expert on training and nutrition there is right ?  ::)
Who cares how he looks he knows his shit better than 99,9999999% of the people who compete in crazy shape.
Title: Re: Gurus: nearly all worthless
Post by: dj181 on August 04, 2017, 02:16:33 AM
You aren't smart.  You're not  a narcissist.  You're a resentful little worm who can't accept his position in life.

I could knock you out if I wanted don't think worms can do that

it would be fun to work your body with my hard rights and make ya cry  ;)
Title: Re: Gurus: nearly all worthless
Post by: heenok on August 04, 2017, 02:36:29 AM
Charles does all these fancy exercises and unorthodox use of machines, probably dreamed up in a weed haze, but he has not once changed the shape or proportions of a single pro. Trying new things is fun but genetics reigns supreme and you can't shape a muscle and you can't bring up poor parts as a pro - maybe to a very tiny degree.

The worse are the delt training its like custom made for shoulder impegement. Painfull to watch.
Title: Re: Gurus: Nearly all worthless
Post by: Spike on August 04, 2017, 02:41:42 AM
🐪 krew




I'd work with bader bosai (I think) and the crew in Kuwait
Title: Re: Gurus: nearly all worthless
Post by: DroppingPlates on August 04, 2017, 04:53:03 AM
I could knock you out if I wanted don't think worms can do that

it would be fun to work your body with my hard rights and make ya cry  ;)

Meltdown
Title: Re: Gurus: nearly all worthless
Post by: cephissus on August 04, 2017, 10:01:18 AM
I could knock you out if I wanted don't think worms can do that

it would be fun to work your body with my hard rights and make ya cry  ;)

cool fantasy.  i could pay your bum trainer enough to never look at you again, and after receiving from him half the lessons you needed, knock you out 100 out of 100 times.  in reality, i spend my time a little more wisely as i don't want to end up like some whiny manchild who cries to his therapist (paid friend) because he can't get a girlfriend ::)
Title: Re: Gurus: Nearly all worthless
Post by: Kwon on August 04, 2017, 01:31:48 PM
Faggets, all of yous.
Title: Re: Gurus: Nearly all worthless
Post by: OLKE_TEXAS on August 04, 2017, 01:38:21 PM
(https://s2.postimg.org/vyb39sp2h/bgegg_head.jpg)
Title: Re: Gurus: Nearly all worthless
Post by: BBSSchlemiel on August 04, 2017, 04:17:24 PM
Faggets, all of yous.

You're the one who seems to be hooked on porn.
Title: Re: Gurus: Nearly all worthless
Post by: DroppingPlates on August 04, 2017, 04:31:18 PM
You're the one who seems to be hooked on porn.

At least it's not gay porn
Title: Re: Gurus: Nearly all worthless
Post by: NelsonMuntz on August 04, 2017, 04:45:07 PM
Gurus are not worthless - they are there to provide information and to help you in knowledge, and help motivate and build you to where you desire to be.

Of course, you need to find the right one because of these 'gurus' spew out nonsense or give out the same info to different competitors, which does not work.  

For every competitor that praises a guru, there a lot that complain a ton about them too, and how they screwed them out or did not do what they said they would.

So like any coach, any teacher - you need to find the right one, and if it doesnt feel right, get rid of that person until you find one that makes sense. Which is not easy.


I love you Ron, but most "guru's" are drug hookups and glorified babysitters, even the former original "guru" Duchaine admitted this
Title: Re: Gurus: Nearly all worthless
Post by: Chidoman on August 04, 2017, 07:16:59 PM
I love you Ron, but most "guru's" are drug hookups and glorified babysitters, even the former original "guru" Duchaine admitted this

Dan Duchaine was The Original One though...More savvy than any of these douche bags!
Title: Re: Gurus: Nearly all worthless
Post by: Vince B on August 04, 2017, 08:03:07 PM
What worries me about those who give advices is are they medically trained to give such advice? Seems to me the so-called gurus accumulate information from experience and this is valuable to bodybuilders re drugs, training and getting cut for contests. It is insanity what some champs do and we have seen many pay the price for reckless things done to win contests. If you go back to Arnold's time sure they had drugs but most took them under medical supervision and thus few got side effects. Compare that to what is happening today. The price everyone is paying is over the top. The guru's can't compensate their athletes if something goes wrong. I bet they make them sign waivers to protect themselves. I find it rather unprofessional to give advice when you are not properly qualified. The trouble is perhaps no one is qualified because the medical profession walked away from steroids and all the nonsense involved in professional bodybuilding today. In the vacuum appeared all manner of 'experts' who claim to know what they are doing. We all remember how Luke Wood paid the ultimate price for misunderstanding a dosage and ended up losing his life from complications arising from kidney problems.
Title: Re: Gurus: Nearly all worthless
Post by: Van_Bilderass on August 05, 2017, 02:51:10 PM
. If you go back to Arnold's time sure they had drugs but most took them under medical supervision and thus few got side effects. Compare that to what is happening today. .

The medical supervision wasn't worth much, the docs didn't know what they were doing. They gave Deca and Dbol to kids - for example The Coach started by 15 via prescription.

Bodybuilding is experimental, even a doc can't predict what will happen with the combos of drugs used.

Many gurus do try to limit sides by having blood work done, keeping tabs on BP etc
Title: Re: Gurus: nearly all worthless
Post by: Parker on August 05, 2017, 03:00:33 PM
The worse are the delt training its like custom made for shoulder impegement. Painfull to watch.
Behind the neck press and upright rows, which are bodybuilding "staples", are custom made off impingement.
Charles does all these fancy exercises and unorthodox use of machines, probably dreamed up in a weed haze, but he has not once changed the shape or proportions of a single pro. Trying new things is fun but genetics reigns supreme and you can't shape a muscle and you can't bring up poor parts as a pro - maybe to a very tiny degree.
He did improve Gunter's back detail.
Title: Re: Gurus: Nearly all worthless
Post by: Taffin on August 05, 2017, 05:21:53 PM
Dan Duchaine was The Original One though...More savvy than any of these douche bags!

Now there's a name I haven't heard for a long time.... anyone know how he's getting on?
Title: Re: Gurus: Nearly all worthless
Post by: BBSSchlemiel on August 05, 2017, 06:29:00 PM
Now there's a name I haven't heard for a long time.... anyone know how he's getting on?

He's dead. Was that a trick question?