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The trend over the years are bodybuilders claiming Barbell bench doesn't work and doesn't isolate chest blah blah blah. Most moved to dumbbells and like a sheep I did too. Started doing barbell again and I am having he worst DOMS in my chest. It is hitting my pecs harder than dumbbells ever did and the weird part is I was lifting more pounds with the dbs combined than the flat barbell press.
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Wouldn't the same happen if you always did barbell bench and then tried dumbbells for the first time in a long time?
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Wouldn't the same happen if you always did barbell bench and then tried dumbbells for the first time in a long time?
yes, op is a dumbass.
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yes, op is a dumbass.
so is your mom
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The trend over the years are bodybuilders claiming Barbell bench doesn't work and doesn't isolate chest blah blah blah. Most moved to dumbbells and like a sheep I did too. Started doing barbell again and I am having he worst DOMS in my chest. It is hitting my pecs harder than dumbbells ever did and the weird part is I was lifting more pounds with the dbs combined than the flat barbell press.
I built a good chest on only barbell bench presses and dumbell flies.
I noticed this is what Arnold claims to have used also.
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I built a good chest on only barbell bench presses and dumbell flies.
I noticed this is what Arnold claims to have used also.
Remember Bob Chick would post all negative shit barbell presses and so did a lot of other bodybuilders but it seems to hit chest deeper and harder than dumbbells.
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Depends on your build
Some folks only feel their front delts on fb
Some only feel their tri's
Do what works for you
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I built a good chest on only barbell bench presses and dumbell flies.
I noticed this is what Arnold claims to have used also.
Pics?
It's shocking you have time to work out with all the illuminati exposing you're doing.
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Gary Strydom - who had killer pecs - said in an Muscle & Fitness article in the early 90's that his pecs responded far better to squeezing exercises (various flies) than pressing exercises (barbell, db presses).
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Pics?
It's shocking you have time to work out with all the illuminati exposing you're doing.
Sorry I don't do gay for pay homo.
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Sorry I don't do gay for pay homo.
Don't worry, we all assumed you do it for free.
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Don't worry, we all assumed you do it for free.
good to see you found some free time away from blacksonblondes pornsite to visit us here ;D
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A whole lot of guy don't even bother touching their chest on the barbell bench press anymore. This eliminates the hardest part of the lift and reduces work on the chest. Plus as usual, the bench is the #1 ego lift with shitty form and a bunch of over-spotting making people think they are a lot stronger at it then they actually are.
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bench press work, but there's better safer alternatives.
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Sorry I don't do gay for pay homo.
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A whole lot of guy don't even bother touching their chest on the barbell bench press anymore. This eliminates the hardest part of the lift and reduces work on the chest. Plus as usual, the bench is the #1 ego lift with shitty form and a bunch of over-spotting making people think they are a lot stronger at it then they actually are.
I agree and also feel this is the part of the lift that the most benefit is derived from especially when lowered slowly and into a brief pause/stretch.
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Flat bench works.
Every pro built their chest doing flat then when established physically and competitively they say the bench is over rated and it's an ego exercise (in a "sport" that caters to the egomaniac).
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Profile name: muscleman-2017
Bodybuilding forum posting history: proving the power of illuminati, chemtrails, worthlessness of blacks and anyone who disagrees is a leftist homosexual
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dave boy you aint smart enough to do an analysis of a lamp post
now run along you pathetic cuck
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dave boy you aint smart enough to do an analysis of a lamp post
now run along you pathetic cuck
homo fruedian slip noted
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Depends on your build
Some folks only feel their front delts on fb
Some only feel their tri's
Do what works for you
This. My chest grew the fastest and best from cables. Yeah- I know- not a real bodybuilder, lol
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The trend over the years are bodybuilders claiming Barbell bench doesn't work and doesn't isolate chest blah blah blah. Most moved to dumbbells and like a sheep I did too. Started doing barbell again and I am having he worst DOMS in my chest. It is hitting my pecs harder than dumbbells ever did and the weird part is I was lifting more pounds with the dbs combined than the flat barbell press.
gee one workout n u figured it all out
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one arm pushups under rated
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Remember Bob Chick would post all negative shit barbell presses and so did a lot of other bodybuilders but it seems to hit chest deeper and harder than dumbbells.
His beef with it was it was the biggest contributing factor to pec-tears. flat bench that is.
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is there any benefit of using bench compared to dumbbells? if not i think we should stop discussing this.
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is there any benefit of using bench compared to dumbbells? if not i think we should stop discussing this.
no
weighted pushups or one arm pushups force the body to recruit more total muscle
end of debate
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yes, op is a dumbass.
this
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Furthnore real men flat bench on the smith machine
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DB press provides a larger degree of freedom of movement - this obviously means that if you're not really paying much attention to how you're doing the lift, you'll likely play to your strengths. I am a strong bencher but a lot of my power comes from triceps - so I generally hit DB press quite narrow.
Saying that, generally speaking, I think it would be more likely people DB press narrower than their bench, anyway. If there is no bar locking you in to the starting width, it's a very odd thing to keep your hands as wide as the starting position on a dumbell press.
Anybody bringing up bar benching range would be wise to remember that big DBs are generally pretty awkward, themselves - their size ensures that your DB presses have almost no chance of technically benching the DB bar itself to your chest. either. Rubberised DBs are huge or comically wide.
Beware listening to people who say benching is bad.. they mostly fall into groups such as
1. People who aren't built to bench (wrapping elbows and wrists for tiny tit weight, complain about delt pain, every workout)
2. People who don't lift properly or bit off more than they could chew, to ultimate ruin
3. Weak people
4. The unlucky (these I give a pass to, it's hard to have adversity and not imagine you're an anomaly)
Each and every person who benches pretty much knows whether they are built for it. If they are not, they should consider DB Press. But instead of giving out shit advice aka "don't bench", the proper advice is "consider whether benching is your thing".
Every powerlifter I know benches. Every powerlifter has to bench in a comp. Only in bodybuilding circles is bench the devil.
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that powerlifters bench dont surprise me.
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Arnold mainly did bench presses and developed the most impressive chest ever. He rarely did DB bench presses.
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yes arnolds chest development is clearly because of him doing bench presses
how do we know this? easy. everybody in the world who do bench presses get the chest of arnold.
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Bench presses work, everything works if done right.
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was just watching some of the light guys in the ipf bench and they mostly use as wide a grip as allowed, a big arch and they usually have stumpy arms, so they are moving the bar only a few inches >:(
too bad that can't do some kind of comp where it's based on total bar movement
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Bench presses work, everything works if done right.
So true, and so hard to understand for most of the people. They don't think at all, it is too difficult for them.
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everything works doesnt say anything
it is a useless comment
the follow up question would be does everything work EQUALLY WELL
and does everything that work being EQUALLY SAFE
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yes arnolds chest development is clearly because of him doing bench presses
how do we know this? easy. everybody in the world who do bench presses get the chest of arnold.
You're most likely a training imbecile.
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Every compound movement is better with a barbell than with dumbbells.
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Every compound movement is better with a barbell than with dumbbells.
do you think black dudes would agree ???
and how about asain turds ???
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do you think black dudes would agree ???
and how about asain turds ???
The barbell is the all-time greatest piece of exercise equipment. Nothing is even close:
(https://www.bodybuilding.com/images/arnolds-twin-secrets-to-a-heavily-muscled-chest-facebook-box.jpg)
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no
weighted pushups or one arm pushups force the body to recruit more total muscle
end of debate
A lot of people train alone and don't have the ability to do weighted push-ups
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Every compound movement is better with a barbell than with dumbbells.
why is that
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everything works doesnt say anything
it is a useless comment
the follow up question would be does everything work EQUALLY WELL
and does everything that work being EQUALLY SAFE
Well, after these decades it is obvious that you can't teach people to lift weights, because everyone knows better than yourself, better than Arnold etc.legends and better than anybody else. It is waste of time to try teach people who already knows everything, and when you step in the gym, what you see? People doing 2" squats and leg presses, doing bent over rows while standing up and low rep sets for calfs with enormous weight and 1" range of motion ;D
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why is that
When using heavy dumbbells, a lot of energy is devoted towards keeping them stable. That diverts energy from getting quality muscle contractions. With a rigid bar you don't really have this problem. The value of dumbbells is mainly in isolation exercises where less weight is used and stability isn't as big of an issue.
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When using heavy dumbbells, a lot of energy is devoted towards keeping them stable. That diverts energy from getting quality muscle contractions. With a rigid bar you don't really have this problem. The value of dumbbells is mainly in isolation exercises where less weight is used and stability isn't as big of an issue.
i dont think a lot of energy is needed for that.
you can make a case for keeping them stable requires more concentration which is better for overall form and db allows for going deeper involving more muscle along with being a safer exercise overall and something you can do without a spotter.
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I have moved to dumbells due to rotator cuff issues. Now i have moved to bench press again, now with reverse grip, due to the worsening of the problem.
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i dont think a lot of energy is needed for that.
you can make a case for keeping them stable requires more concentration which is better for overall form and db allows for going deeper involving more muscle along with being a safer exercise overall and something you can do without a spotter.
The concentration involved in keeping them stable detracts from the mind muscle link.
The bottom line is that the greater stability of a barbell allows you to use more weight which allows for more powerful contractions.
I'm not saying dumbbells have no place in a workout routine. They can often be the better option for isolation movements and in the case of injury. However, if size, strength, and power are your main goals, you can't beat a barbell.
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but even a barbell requires concentration involved keeping it stable shouldn various chest machines be even better?
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yes arnolds chest development is clearly because of him doing bench presses
how do we know this? easy. everybody in the world who do bench presses get the chest of arnold.
Yet you do it and your chest sucks, just like the rest of your body, your brain also. The only thing worth notice is your outstanding nose.
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but even a barbell requires concentration involved keeping it stable shouldn various chest machines be even better?
Fair point. However, pretty much every machine I've ever seen locks you into a movement whereas barbell gives you more freedom to find your groove. Consider smith machine squats versus standard barbell squats.
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I have moved to dumbells due to rotator cuff issues. Now i have moved to bench press again, now with reverse grip, due to the worsening of the problem.
By human anatomy, how your rotator cuff would know if you are using reverse grip or not?
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By human anatomy, how your rotator cuff would know if you are using reverse grip or not?
Reverse grip moves the elbows closer to the torso, this changes the angle/stress on the rotator.
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Reverse grip moves the elbows closer to the torso, this changes the angle/stress on the rotator.
And you cannot do that with normal grip? Interesting. In fact, if you turn your wrist there will not be any effect after your elbow, there simply can't be because your shoulder joint is build to work regardless the position of your wrist by human anatomy. What happen there is you have to use lighter weights and that position forces you to use natural range of motion instead that crooked one you use to lift those overloaded lifts. There is no magic in the different grips.