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Title: what did Ronnie change between the 97 and 98 olympias?
Post by: GMCtrk on April 09, 2006, 01:50:27 AM
How much did Ronnie improve from 97 to 98?

At the 1997 Mr. Olympia ronnie was 255lbs

At the 1998 Mr. Olympia Ronnie was 248lbs...

did he really make huge improvements in the offseason that would warrant 9th --> 1st, or did he simply take his conditioning up a notch?
Title: Re: what did Ronnie change between the 97 and 98 olympias?
Post by: cqfd on April 09, 2006, 08:42:28 AM
He probably discovered hydroxicuts.
Title: Re: what did Ronnie change between the 97 and 98 olympias?
Post by: SteelePegasus on April 09, 2006, 09:02:03 AM
I am guessing that he started taking a mult-vitamin daily and a mega dose of vitamn C
Title: Re: what did Ronnie change between the 97 and 98 olympias?
Post by: alexxx on April 09, 2006, 09:17:02 AM
Mr. Coleman decided to fast because he was getting too big.
Title: Re: what did Ronnie change between the 97 and 98 olympias?
Post by: Natural_O on April 09, 2006, 09:23:24 AM
I think Ronnie just missed his peak for the '97 Olympia. If you watch "Battle for the Olympia '97", you can see how great he looks in the gym. He smoothed out for the show and was placed really low. He also looked great in the '96 Olympia and could have easily made the top six. In '98, he won the Night of the Champions and had learned how to peak for the contests so he showed up full and ripped. After winning the NOC, he was one of the favorites for the Olympia but he was the only one to really come in peaked condition. He outsized Flex, Nasser was just a little too smooth, Levrone and Shawn Ray weren't at their best and this left the door open for Ronnie to win.
Title: Re: what did Ronnie change between the 97 and 98 olympias?
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 09, 2006, 12:36:10 PM
I disagree with you Natural Al about him being favored at the 1998 Olympia , he wasn't considered to win , everyone including myself knew Flex was going to win and he didn't

Flex said that he knew Ronnie would win the muscularity round and he would win the symmetry round but he was absolutely dumbfounded that Ronnie beat him in the posing round , and lets face it Ronnie is not and has never been known as a great poser , but he won by just 3 points

Shawn Ray said they basically awarded Ronnie the title because he was the most improved from 97 - 98 and they shouldn't have , either way he looked great in that contest .
Title: Re: what did Ronnie change between the 97 and 98 olympias?
Post by: LuciusFox on April 09, 2006, 12:41:46 PM
I disagree with you Natural Al about him being favored at the 1998 Olympia , he wasn't considered to win , everyone including myself knew Flex was going to win and he didn't

Flex said that he knew Ronnie would win the muscularity round and he would win the symmetry round but he was absolutely dumbfounded that Ronnie beat him in the posing round , and lets face it Ronnie is not and has never been known as a great poser , but he won by just 3 points

Shawn Ray said they basically awarded Ronnie the title because he was the most improved from 97 - 98 and they shouldn't have , either way he looked great in that contest .


 Did he look better than Dorian?  ;D
Title: Re: what did Ronnie change between the 97 and 98 olympias?
Post by: tommywishbone on April 09, 2006, 12:42:50 PM
I hear he switched from real butter to Molly McButter, on his grits.Do they still make Molly McButter?
Title: Re: what did Ronnie change between the 97 and 98 olympias?
Post by: robocop on April 09, 2006, 12:43:15 PM
he changed his underwear
Title: Re: what did Ronnie change between the 97 and 98 olympias?
Post by: GMCtrk on April 09, 2006, 01:50:46 PM
based on the pictures i've seen Coleman should have beaten Levrone at the SF grand prix 1998
Title: Re: what did Ronnie change between the 97 and 98 olympias?
Post by: Hulkster on April 09, 2006, 02:21:46 PM

 Did he look better than Dorian?  ;D

haha that half-flexing most musclar pose that ND posted destroys any fully completed most muscular that Dorian ever did.

so, I'd say ronnie 8)
Title: Re: what did Ronnie change between the 97 and 98 olympias?
Post by: sculpture on April 09, 2006, 02:23:10 PM
haha that half-flexing most musclar pose that ND posted destroys any fully completed most muscular that Dorian ever did.

so, I'd say ronnie 8)

Dorian has better arms ;D
Title: Re: what did Ronnie change between the 97 and 98 olympias?
Post by: GMCtrk on April 09, 2006, 02:24:24 PM
haha that half-flexing most musclar pose that ND posted destroys any fully completed most muscular that Dorian ever did.

so, I'd say ronnie 8)

CAN YOU PLEASE LEAVE THAT FUCKING SHIT OUT OF MY GODDAMN THREAD. THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH RONNIE VERSE DORIAN >:(

Title: Re: what did Ronnie change between the 97 and 98 olympias?
Post by: LuciusFox on April 09, 2006, 02:35:37 PM
CAN YOU PLEASE LEAVE THAT FUCKING SHIT OUT OF MY GODDAMN THREAD. THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH RONNIE VERSE DORIAN >:(



 Meltdown.
Title: Re: what did Ronnie change between the 97 and 98 olympias?
Post by: Hulkster on April 09, 2006, 02:39:45 PM
CAN YOU PLEASE LEAVE THAT FUCKING SHIT OUT OF MY GODDAMN THREAD. THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH RONNIE VERSE DORIAN >:(



no. not until you admit that ronnie smokes Dorian if they competed at their bests.

After you admit the obvious truth,

Then, we will talk 8)
Title: Re: what did Ronnie change between the 97 and 98 olympias?
Post by: LuciusFox on April 09, 2006, 02:41:55 PM
no. not until you admit that ronnie smokes Dorian if they competed at their bests.

After you admit the obvious truth,

Then, we will talk 8)

 Ronnie's superiority over Dorian caused him to melt down ;D
Title: Re: what did Ronnie change between the 97 and 98 olympias?
Post by: Hulkster on April 09, 2006, 02:47:07 PM
Ronnie's superiority over Dorian caused him to melt down ;D

probably right.

The difference between dorian and ronnie's most musculars is like night and day.

it showcases Dorians mediocore arms, chest, traps and delts as compared to Ronnie.

but lets not talk about that here.  we wouldn't want another MELTDOWN!
 :-*

Title: Re: what did Ronnie change between the 97 and 98 olympias?
Post by: LuciusFox on April 09, 2006, 02:49:17 PM
probably right.

The difference between dorian and ronnie's most musculars is like night and day.

it showcases Dorians mediocore arms, chest, traps and delts as compared to Ronnie.

but lets not talk about that here.  we wouldn't want another MELTDOWN!
 :-*



  ;D
Title: Re: what did Ronnie change between the 97 and 98 olympias?
Post by: TheBigAristotle on April 09, 2006, 02:50:05 PM
I hear he switched from real butter to Molly McButter, on his grits.Do they still make Molly McButter?

They sell it at Costco
Title: Re: what did Ronnie change between the 97 and 98 olympias?
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 09, 2006, 03:08:56 PM
Hulkster get a grip seriously , you don't believe Ronnie is better if you did you wouldn't feel this compulsion to insert it in every thread , you have no confidence in your opinion , and look for others to validate it , anyway Ronnie looked great in 98 , probably the best he has looked at an Olympia .
Title: Re: what did Ronnie change between the 97 and 98 olympias?
Post by: candidate2025 on April 09, 2006, 03:14:32 PM


Shawn Ray said they basically awarded Ronnie the title because he was the most improved from 97 - 98 and they shouldn't have , either way he looked great in that contest .
i believe yo are wrong...although i love flex.

http://ronniecoleman.com/green/green-1999-olympia-10.htm
Title: Re: what did Ronnie change between the 97 and 98 olympias?
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 09, 2006, 03:17:42 PM
i believe yo are wrong...although i love flex.

http://ronniecoleman.com/green/green-1999-olympia-10.htm

??? you believe I'm wrong? that was Shawn's comment and the link you posted was from the 99 Olympia  ???
Title: Re: what did Ronnie change between the 97 and 98 olympias?
Post by: Al-Gebra on April 09, 2006, 03:19:56 PM
??? you believe I'm wrong? that was Shawn's comment and the link you posted was from the 99 Olympia  ???

do you think shawn was being a sore loser?
Title: Re: what did Ronnie change between the 97 and 98 olympias?
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 09, 2006, 03:23:40 PM
do you think shawn was being a sore loser?

Oh yes lol but whats ironic is that one he wasn't even close and he was elated that Flex lost to Ronnie , he did not want Flex being Mr Olympia , my take is he was severly jealous of Flex's success and Shawn always claimed to be the Olympia was his destiny and Flex could have been Mr Olympia if he was serious enough .
Title: Re: what did Ronnie change between the 97 and 98 olympias?
Post by: canyoufeeltheforce on April 09, 2006, 03:27:26 PM
GYNO !!!!!!!

Big RON should never have won the 98 O .
His gyno was as embarrassing as Franco's in 81 .
Title: Re: what did Ronnie change between the 97 and 98 olympias?
Post by: BroadStreetBruiser on April 09, 2006, 03:29:48 PM
GYNO !!!!!!!

Big RON should never have won the 98 O .
His gyno was as embarrassing as Franco's in 81 .


hahaahahaha what a fucking screen name hahahaha oh brother hahaha
Title: Re: what did Ronnie change between the 97 and 98 olympias?
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 09, 2006, 03:38:46 PM
GYNO !!!!!!!

Big RON should never have won the 98 O .
His gyno was as embarrassing as Franco's in 81 .

You have a point !! notice the gut sticking out , but this may be a ligitimate case of Ronnie exhaling , maybe not .
Title: Re: what did Ronnie change between the 97 and 98 olympias?
Post by: canyoufeeltheforce on April 09, 2006, 03:42:19 PM

hahaahahaha what a fucking screen name hahahaha oh brother hahaha

screen ! Did you mean scream ?
Judging by the pic posted by NarcissisticDeity you are the screen , I mean scream my forgetful friend .
Title: Re: what did Ronnie change between the 97 and 98 olympias?
Post by: LuciusFox on April 09, 2006, 03:44:26 PM
You have a point !! notice the gut sticking out , but this may be a ligitimate case of Ronnie exhaling , maybe not .

 Ronnie dwarfs you and your pen pal, Dorian Yates ::)
Title: Re: what did Ronnie change between the 97 and 98 olympias?
Post by: Al-Gebra on April 09, 2006, 03:45:14 PM
screen ! Did you mean scream ?
Judging by the pic posted by NarcissisticDeity you are the screen , I mean scream my forgetful friend .

translator needed here, ASAP.
Title: Re: what did Ronnie change between the 97 and 98 olympias?
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 09, 2006, 03:46:36 PM
Ronnie dwarfs you and your pen pal, Dorian Yates ::)

Meltdown  ;)
Title: Re: what did Ronnie change between the 97 and 98 olympias?
Post by: LuciusFox on April 09, 2006, 03:47:44 PM
Meltdown  ;)

  ;D   ;D
Title: Re: what did Ronnie change between the 97 and 98 olympias?
Post by: canyoufeeltheforce on April 09, 2006, 03:51:58 PM
Sorry Al-Gebra .
I was just making fun of BroadStreetBruiser when he called me a screen instead of a scream . In Scotland if someone is called a scream it is because they are funny ( either intentionally or not ).

Does that help ?
Title: Re: what did Ronnie change between the 97 and 98 olympias?
Post by: Al-Gebra on April 09, 2006, 03:53:47 PM
Sorry Al-Gebra .
I was just making fun of BroadStreetBruiser when he called me a screen instead of a scream . In Scotland if someone is called a scream it is because they are funny ( either intentionally or not ).

Does that help ?

a little.
Title: Re: what did Ronnie change between the 97 and 98 olympias?
Post by: LuciusFox on April 09, 2006, 03:54:25 PM
Sorry Al-Gebra .
I was just making fun of BroadStreetBruiser when he called me a screen instead of a scream . In Scotland if someone is called a scream it is because they are funny ( either intentionally or not ).

Does that help ?

 We say that in the States, too. Usually in reference to something funny, though, not actually a person.
Title: Re: what did Ronnie change between the 97 and 98 olympias?
Post by: hillbilly on April 09, 2006, 03:54:49 PM
How much did Ronnie improve from 97 to 98?

At the 1997 Mr. Olympia ronnie was 255lbs

At the 1998 Mr. Olympia Ronnie was 248lbs...

did he really make huge improvements in the offseason that would warrant 9th --> 1st, or did he simply take his conditioning up a notch?

he changed his posing trunks
Title: Re: what did Ronnie change between the 97 and 98 olympias?
Post by: canyoufeeltheforce on April 09, 2006, 04:07:27 PM
We say that in the States, too. Usually in reference to something funny, though, not actually a person.

Cheers . I am still learning the North American jargon . For instance the way you guys use the term OWNED was completely new to me it until I found this board.

Title: Re: what did Ronnie change between the 97 and 98 olympias?
Post by: LuciusFox on April 09, 2006, 04:11:38 PM
Cheers . I am still learning the North American jargon . For instance the way you guys use the term OWNED was completely new to me it until I found this board.



 Yeah, it is almost completely reserved for the internet.  Variations include 0wned and pwnd.
Title: Re: what did Ronnie change between the 97 and 98 olympias?
Post by: canyoufeeltheforce on April 09, 2006, 04:15:28 PM
You have a point !! notice the gut sticking out , but this may be a ligitimate case of Ronnie exhaling , maybe not .

Anyway back to Big Ron's gyno .
Why was he not marked down for this ?
At the time people argued whether Flex used synthol and calf implants but Ron's gyno was not in dispute .

Don't get me wrong . I greatly admire Big Ron and he clearly out muscled Flex but if a BB has gyno he should be heavily penalised .
Title: Re: what did Ronnie change between the 97 and 98 olympias?
Post by: LuciusFox on April 09, 2006, 04:17:14 PM
Anyway back to Big Ron's gyno .
Why was he not marked down for this ?
At the time people argued whether Flex used synthol and calf implants but Ron's gyno was not in dispute .

Don't get me wrong . I greatly admire Big Ron and he clearly out muscled Flex but if a BB has gyno he should be heavily penalised .

 If they heavily marked down Ronnie for his gyno, they would have had to mark down Flex heavily for his soft glutes and hams. Ronnie dwarfs you ::)
Title: Re: what did Ronnie change between the 97 and 98 olympias?
Post by: canyoufeeltheforce on April 09, 2006, 04:28:03 PM
If they heavily marked down Ronnie for his gyno, they would have had to mark down Flex heavily for his soft glutes and hams. Ronnie dwarfs you ::)

Fair point .
However soft glutes and hams can be improved by better conditioning while gyno like Big Ron's requires surgery .
I think that makes big Rons 1998 gyno a greater evil than Flex's softer glutes and hams .
Title: Re: what did Ronnie change between the 97 and 98 olympias?
Post by: LuciusFox on April 09, 2006, 04:30:19 PM
Fair point .
However soft glutes and hams can be improved by better conditioning while gyno like Big Ron's requires surgery .
I think that makes big Rons 1998 gyno a greater evil than Flex's softer glutes and hams .

 Ronnie dwarfs you ::) Seriously though, gyno is a flaw, but it is not a flaw in conditioning or development. Vile, massive gyno should be heavily penalized, but Ronnie's is not that bad.