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Title: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: BEEFYHEAVYWEIGHT on October 15, 2017, 08:56:08 AM
Or let me say....an old schmoe that I once knew...as he is now passed away. In the late 80's I met a very old man by name of Gabe Baze or Baez or something that sounded like that. I can no longer remember the spelling. Anyway....Gabe was a judge for many shows in the 1970's IFBB and for the Mr. Americas that were being held in the mid 70's. Gabe was also deep in the bodybuilding world of the IFBB and the New York scene at tge amateur level. He was a strange man but very knowledgeable and he knew everybody in the scene.
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: BEEFYHEAVYWEIGHT on October 15, 2017, 08:57:15 AM
He loved to talk and he loved the fact that I would pick his brain for stories and gossip. Anyway....whenever I would attend a show in NYC....I would run into Gabe and I would personally witness him interact with all the top guys and judges at the shows. Wayne Demilia, Jim Manion, The Night of Champions, The Niagra Falls Grand Prix, The Ms Olympia...etc. I have no idea if he was a gay old queen or a closet case. He didnt appear to be...but he sure telling me about random bodybuilders of the golden age. It is very random and some of the names only oldtimers will know. How true or not they are...is beyond me.
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: BEEFYHEAVYWEIGHT on October 15, 2017, 08:58:22 AM
So take them for what they are worth.ut these are the quotes that he told me. So take them for what they are worth.
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: dj181 on October 15, 2017, 08:58:49 AM
so spill your guts

btw, have and sex stories bout mentzer or arthur jones? (no homo)
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: BEEFYHEAVYWEIGHT on October 15, 2017, 09:01:11 AM
Here we go.

Larry Scott was a woman trapped inside a mans body.

Black bodybuilder Manny Perry was known as the henchman of the second Golds Gym location in Santa Monica on Second Street. And that if anybody fucked with gay pornstar owner, Ken Sprague..Manny would beat the living shit out of you.
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: BEEFYHEAVYWEIGHT on October 15, 2017, 09:04:14 AM
Roger Callard was a man with a horrible and nasty temper who loved to get into it with everybody at the drop of a dime.
Big Tony...from Pumping Iron...was a judo champ who fled Poland to move to America to pursue bodybuilding. He was best friends with Ken Waller and loved to steal steaks from supermarkets for his protein and loved to fight guys at the Jolly Onion in Marina Del Rey every weekend in the 70's
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: BEEFYHEAVYWEIGHT on October 15, 2017, 09:06:32 AM
Black pro bodybuilder from late 80's...Renel Janvier was a nasty SOB who actually had voodoo dolls in his gym bag that he made for guys he hated in the gym and fellow competitors and would say he actually would pin cushion them.
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: BEEFYHEAVYWEIGHT on October 15, 2017, 09:08:46 AM
Bill Pearl would tell people that he could ejaculate without touching his penis due to his having such high testosterone levels and that a rich fag once paid Pearly big bucks to have a private Super 8 movie made of Pearl cumming without touching himself.
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: BEEFYHEAVYWEIGHT on October 15, 2017, 09:11:11 AM
A top but short lived New Jersey based IFBB Vice President named Sir Dominic Certo was run out of the IFBN because he was using the IFBB payroll account to pay for private sex sessions with Matt Mendenhall. And promised Mendenhall a pro card win at the early 90's Nationals that he came back at.
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: dj181 on October 15, 2017, 09:13:58 AM
callard got pistol whipped by AJ for trying to sell party drugs to his son

tough guy... NOT 😂
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: BEEFYHEAVYWEIGHT on October 15, 2017, 09:14:11 AM
Arnold was personally sponsoring and paying a small salary to a now unknown amateur bodybuilder from Florida named Jorge Navarette. Whom Arnold absolutely believed was going to be the next big thing in 1976 and 77. I believe Arnold purposely judged either the 76 or 77 America in Madison Square Garden to help his career to no avail or win.
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: Kwon on October 15, 2017, 09:15:07 AM
Here we go.

Larry Scott was a woman trapped inside a mans body.

Black bodybuilder Manny Perry was known as the henchman of the second Golds Gym location in Santa Monica on Second Street. And that if anybody fucked with gay pornstar owner, Ken Sprague..Manny would beat the living shit out of you.

I don't believe it.

(http://www.myajc.com/rf/image_lowres/Pub/p4/MyAJC/2013/08/15/Images/photos.medleyphoto.3755564.jpg)
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: BEEFYHEAVYWEIGHT on October 15, 2017, 09:17:30 AM
A hispanic bodybuilder named Rudy Hermosillo won the 78 or 79 Teen Mr. America but was actually in his 20s. He was Stallones bodyguard. But Stallone fired him and buried his bodybuildung career upon Stallone coming home and catching Rudy fucking Stallones then girlfriend.
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: BEEFYHEAVYWEIGHT on October 15, 2017, 09:19:17 AM
Franco Columbu was the biggest and nastiest bastard he ever knew. A total piece of shit he said.
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: BEEFYHEAVYWEIGHT on October 15, 2017, 09:21:22 AM
Andreas Cahling was the nastiest male bodybuilder hustler of G4P that he knew. Said Cahling would actually physically prostitute himself nightly on Santa Monica Blvd in West Hollywood wearing only posing trunks and doused with posing oil.
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: BEEFYHEAVYWEIGHT on October 15, 2017, 09:24:22 AM
A black IFBB judge from Canada named Winston Roberts would pay the Mentzer brothers big cash to take private photos of Mike and Ray simulating sex with eachother...but not actually penetrating eachother or sucking...but just the pose of sex leading up to the insertion or suck. Supposedly got Mike and Ray to do the same for a rich Japanese man who started Japan Airlines.
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: BEEFYHEAVYWEIGHT on October 15, 2017, 09:26:27 AM
Mike Katz friend and training partner...Joey...from opening scene of Pumping Iron...was actually Mikes lover and Mike would take Joey to California every summer for 2 months to train for shows while Mike had off from teaching job each summer. While his wife was back in Connecticut with kids.
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: BEEFYHEAVYWEIGHT on October 15, 2017, 09:28:05 AM
I don't believe it.

(http://www.myajc.com/rf/image_lowres/Pub/p4/MyAJC/2013/08/15/Images/photos.medleyphoto.3755564.jpg)
That is not Manny with Sprague!!! This is big Manny.
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: BEEFYHEAVYWEIGHT on October 15, 2017, 09:30:18 AM
Tom Platz was paid big money by rich schmoes who had private sex parties..to actually do bench squats onto a dildo.
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: BEEFYHEAVYWEIGHT on October 15, 2017, 09:33:19 AM
Rich and known Spanish schmoe Paco Arce would give a Gold Crucifix necklace to all of the bodybuilders that he "OWNED"....Serge Nubret was his main treasure and many photos show Serge with the Crucifix necklace. Supposedly the back of the crucifix had a quote inscribed with a personal quote from Paco. Cahling was also owned by Paco....and Arnold wore a large ring in the 70's that Paco gave him as a gift.
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: dj181 on October 15, 2017, 09:37:35 AM
A black IFBB judge from Canada named Winston Roberts would pay the Mentzer brothers big cash to take private photos of Mike and Ray simulating sex with eachother...but not actually penetrating eachother or sucking...but just the pose of sex leading up to the insertion or suck. Supposedly got Mike and Ray to do the same for a rich Japanese man who started Japan Airlines.

 >:( :(

hopefully King Zane stayed out of this creepyass horseshit
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: BEEFYHEAVYWEIGHT on October 15, 2017, 09:44:12 AM
Arthur Jones would pay young black male highschool footballers players from local Deland,Florida highschool...to fuck his wife in orgys at his Nautilus compound factory quansut huts. It was not illegal in those days to fuck underage.
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: BEEFYHEAVYWEIGHT on October 15, 2017, 09:45:09 AM
More stories later. Gotta go.
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: TheShape. on October 15, 2017, 10:05:30 AM
Bodybuilding is a disgusting scene not unlike Hollywood.
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: Straw Man on October 15, 2017, 10:30:36 AM
I'm sure most of these stories are bullshit but then again this "hands on" guy was running the show so who knows
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: keanu on October 15, 2017, 01:14:14 PM
On one hand you have the best bodies in the world. Superhero bodies out of the cartoons, who are mostly broke with big anabolic bills. On the other hand you have gay guys with shitloads of money. These stories are likely just the tip of the iceberg.
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: BIG AL MCKECHNIE on October 16, 2017, 04:25:59 AM
Tom Platz was paid big money by rich schmoes who had private sex parties..to actually do bench squats onto a dildo.

Haha.....are you sure you are not Jimmy Thomson reincarnated ? 
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: falco on October 16, 2017, 05:41:45 AM
Are we supposed to believe all this nonsense?
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: Vince B on October 16, 2017, 06:02:09 AM
Beefy claims ....In 1993 I moved to Venice, California to pursue my competitive bodybuilding aspirations. In a matter of weeks I had landed a job at the front desk at Golds, Venice. I worked with the legend Kent Keuhn at the time.

Surely that must give away who he is.
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: Kwon on October 16, 2017, 06:10:47 AM
Instead of saying Schmoe, let's say Schome

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/95/ae/25/95ae25804346f0ae9a25ed50987af7c3.jpg)
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: denarii on October 16, 2017, 06:40:40 AM
any stories about schmoes and female competitors? that is much more interesting to hear about.
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: dj181 on October 16, 2017, 06:46:53 AM
dent pewune
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: IronMeister on October 16, 2017, 06:55:00 AM
(https://s1.postimg.org/3bkrhniw8v/13254664_908789325910632_5241282088495777397_o.jpg)

(https://s1.postimg.org/8az2mcgoy7/12819328_855291921260373_6520204826569663291_o.png)
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: funk51 on October 16, 2017, 07:08:57 AM
 ???
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: funk51 on October 16, 2017, 09:39:38 AM
A hispanic bodybuilder named Rudy Hermosillo won the 78 or 79 Teen Mr. America but was actually in his 20s. He was Stallones bodyguard. But Stallone fired him and buried his bodybuildung career upon Stallone coming home and catching Rudy fucking Stallones then girlfriend.
:D
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: funk51 on October 16, 2017, 09:42:25 AM
Mike Katz friend and training partner...Joey...from opening scene of Pumping Iron...was actually Mikes lover and Mike would take Joey to California every summer for 2 months to train for shows while Mike had off from teaching job each summer. While his wife was back in Connecticut with kids.
                         what would coach say ??? ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: funk51 on October 16, 2017, 09:47:48 AM
Arthur Jones would pay young black male highschool footballers players from local Deland,Florida highschool...to fuck his wife in orgys at his Nautilus compound factory quansut huts. It was not illegal in those days to fuck underage.
;D
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: funk51 on October 19, 2017, 10:58:56 AM
A black IFBB judge from Canada named Winston Roberts would pay the Mentzer brothers big cash to take private photos of Mike and Ray simulating sex with eachother...but not actually penetrating eachother or sucking...but just the pose of sex leading up to the insertion or suck. Supposedly got Mike and Ray to do the same for a rich Japanese man who started Japan Airlines.
::)
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: Primemuscle on October 19, 2017, 11:30:02 AM
This thread should do well. People love gossip especially when it's dirt.
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: BEEFYHEAVYWEIGHT on October 19, 2017, 12:18:49 PM
::)
Good find. We got Nubret and Paco Arce's Gold crucifix on his neck. Winston Roberts and Mentzer.
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: tres_taco_combo on October 19, 2017, 12:20:53 PM
Good find. We got Nubret and Paco Arce's Gold crucifix on his neck. Winston Roberts and Mentzer.

bodybuilders version of a scarlet letter
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: Parker on October 19, 2017, 12:31:18 PM
:D
You already posted this in 2015, as well as the pic with Stallone
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=584947.0  (http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=584947.0)

And here is more of the story on Rudy and Sly's woman, as well as more pics.
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=436288.0  (http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=436288.0)
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: funk51 on October 21, 2017, 06:41:54 AM
You already posted this in 2015, as well as the pic with Stallone
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=584947.0  (http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=584947.0)

And here is more of the story on Rudy and Sly's woman, as well as more pics.
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=436288.0  (http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=436288.0)
                  good job someone has been paying attention.. ;) ;) ;) ;)serge's friend also wears the cross..
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: funk51 on October 21, 2017, 06:47:02 AM
                  good job someone has been paying attention.. ;) ;) ;) ;)serge's friend also wears the cross..
:D :D :D :D ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: Kwon on October 21, 2017, 10:18:43 AM
Mayor in Heaven :D

(http://oi65.tinypic.com/2ugm994.jpg)
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: NelsonMuntz on October 21, 2017, 12:22:29 PM
Beefy claims ....In 1993 I moved to Venice, California to pursue my competitive bodybuilding aspirations. In a matter of weeks I had landed a job at the front desk at Golds, Venice. I worked with the legend Kent Keuhn at the time.

Surely that must give away who he is.

why do you care so much about who people are behind a screen?

Nobody told you to put your name out there, YOU CHOSE TO VINCE.

And stop patting yourself on the back because you registered as your own name, you only did that because you thought everyone would kiss your ass, and it backfired. It was all ego, nothing more

Despite what I just wrote, I actually like you Basile, you are a wealth of knowledge, humour and a true legendary getbigger and should have blue stars.

But for fucks sake stop slagging people because they choose to have handles, thta is a point of internet message boards, espcially considering boards like this used to be just as popular for having more personal PED talk plus nevermind some of the topics discussed here, not the sex shit, but all kinds of political talk etc.

Oh and I think you are mixing beefyheavyweight with Hurricane Beef(who used to slag you tons)

2 totally different posters

PS- If you had registered on here way back when you started and were lets say, an office worker or employed by someone, you would not have named your online name using your own. Your online name would have been FlotsamandJetsam

i will put this all in blue fonts so you undertand it better
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: Vince B on October 21, 2017, 10:01:40 PM
why do you care so much about who people are behind a screen?

Nobody told you to put your name out there, YOU CHOSE TO VINCE.

And stop patting yourself on the back because you registered as your own name, you only did that because you thought everyone would kiss your ass, and it backfired. It was all ego, nothing more

Despite what I just wrote, I actually like you Basile, you are a wealth of knowledge, humour and a true legendary getbigger and should have blue stars.

But for fucks sake stop slagging people because they choose to have handles, thta is a point of internet message boards, espcially considering boards like this used to be just as popular for having more personal PED talk plus nevermind some of the topics discussed here, not the sex shit, but all kinds of political talk etc.

Oh and I think you are mixing beefyheavyweight with Hurricane Beef(who used to slag you tons)

2 totally different posters

PS- If you had registered on here way back when you started and were lets say, an office worker or employed by someone, you would not have named your online name using your own. Your online name would have been FlotsamandJetsam

i will put this all in blue fonts so you undertand it better

What a stupid theory. I post as myself because when I started posting on the net in 1998 I didn't like all the anonymous dicks out there. Why on earth post on a forum for years as someone unknown? That is hardly the manly thing to do in my book. Suggests no integrity. Ron and Goodrum post as themselves which is good. I don't mind handles but don't approve of people who we never know who they are. Clearly, the anonymous throw more stones and then have to hide because they would be hunted down otherwise.

Btw, I didn't mix those two Beefy dudes. I doubt the cook from Nova Scotia (Hurricane Beef) ever went to California. He disappeared so we don't know what happened to him. He did have high blood pressure or something like that.
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: SF1900 on October 21, 2017, 10:08:56 PM
What a stupid theory. I post as myself because when I started posting on the net in 1998 I didn't like all the anonymous dicks out there. Why on earth post on a forum for years as someone unknown? That is hardly the manly thing to do in my book. Suggests no integrity. Ron and Goodrum post as themselves which is good. I don't mind handles but don't approve of people who we never know who they are. Clearly, the anonymous throw more stones and then have to hide because they would be hunted down otherwise.

Btw, I didn't mix those two Beefy dudes. I doubt the cook from Nova Scotia (Hurricane Beef) ever went to California. He disappeared so we don't know what happened to him. He did have high blood pressure or something like that.

That's not a theory. Its a hypothesis. It still appears like you don't know the difference between a theory and a hypothesis.

Further, your Hypertrophy Hypothesis is delusional with zero evidence, which is why it has never been published in a reputable scientific journal.
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: Vince B on October 21, 2017, 11:18:04 PM
That's not a theory. Its a hypothesis. It still appears like you don't know the difference between a theory and a hypothesis.

Further, your Hypertrophy Hypothesis is delusional with zero evidence, which is why it has never been published in a reputable scientific journal.

What an joke you are. Peddle your crap elsewhere and don't contaminate my posts with your excrement.
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: SF1900 on October 22, 2017, 01:50:58 AM
What an joke you are. Peddle your crap elsewhere and don't contaminate my posts with your excrement.

The only joke is your Hypertrophy hypothesis, which has never been published in a reputable science journal because no scientist would ever take it seriously.
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: Vince B on October 22, 2017, 02:02:03 AM
The only joke is your Hypertrophy hypothesis, which has never been published in a reputable science journal because no scientist would ever take it seriously.

Have you ever had an original idea in that thick head of yours? You are NOT an expert at anything so absolutely can't criticize what others have proposed.

Who did you beat in a bodybuilding contest?

Please list the champion bodybuilders who got a patent on a biceps machine and then built it. You haven't used this machine so have no idea how effective it is.

I am getting results at 75. I don't need to publish anything to know what works. If that is you in that photo I feel sorry for you. You don't belong on this site.
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: SF1900 on October 22, 2017, 02:09:11 AM

Have you ever had an original idea in that thick head of yours? You are NOT an expert at anything so absolutely can't criticize what others have proposed.

Who did you beat in a bodybuilding contest?

Please list the champion bodybuilders who got a patent on a biceps machine and then built it. You haven't used this machine so have no idea how effective it is.

I am getting results at 75. I don't need to publish anything to know what works. If that is you in that photo I feel sorry for you. You don't belong on this site.

That is why your hypothesis will never be remembered and no one will ever care about it (other than you).

It will make ZERO difference in the fitness world. Your hypothesis will never improve anyone's physique. It's a failed hypothesis. It will never be taken seriously.
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: Vince B on October 22, 2017, 02:25:38 AM
That is why your hypothesis will never be remembered and no one will ever care about it (other than you).

It will make ZERO difference in the fitness world. Your hypothesis will never improve anyone's physique. It's a failed hypothesis. It will never be taken seriously.

Who gives a shit what a nobody like you thinks? Go piss up a rope for goodness sake and stop posting here like you are some educated person.

I could care less if bodybuilders keep doing what they believe. That is the way it has always been. It takes individuals who think and can improvise who end up making a difference.

You are still a young guy who has no clue or desire to build his muscles. So what on earth do you know? Bugger all.

So please list your degrees and the universities you attended.

Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: SF1900 on October 22, 2017, 02:35:07 AM
Who gives a shit what a nobody like you thinks? Go piss up a rope for goodness sake and stop posting here like you are some educated person.

I could care less if bodybuilders keep doing what they believe. That is the way it has always been. It takes individuals who think and can improvise who end up making a difference.

You are still a young guy who has no clue or desire to build his muscles. So what on earth do you know? Bugger all.

So please list your degrees and the universities you attended.



But your hypothesis will never make a difference. Your hypothesis has made zero impact on the fitness world. What difference has your hypothesis made? You said individuals can make a difference. How have you and your hypothesis made a difference in the fitness world?
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: Vince B on October 22, 2017, 02:39:00 AM
But your hypothesis will never make a difference. Your hypothesis has made zero impact on the fitness world. What difference has your hypothesis made? You said individuals can make a difference. How have you and your hypothesis made a difference in the fitness world?

You don't have a physique of note so what university did you attend?
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: dj181 on October 22, 2017, 02:47:55 AM

You don't have a physique of note so what university did you attend?

this is him
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: SF1900 on October 22, 2017, 02:51:06 AM

You don't have a physique of note so what university did you attend?

I have NEVER studied fitness in school or anything related. Not once. I've never attended any classes related to nutrition or physiology, etc.

However, all that does not matter; I know that you're hypothesis has not made a difference in the fitness world because it has never been published in a reputable journal. Your hypothesis has made its way on getbig and Ironmag magazine and will go no further way. Your hypothesis will rarely, if ever be used by anyone in a gym, let alone a professional athlete.
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: Vince B on October 22, 2017, 03:16:30 AM
I have NEVER studied fitness in school or anything related. Not once. I've never attended any classes related to nutrition or physiology, etc.

However, all that does not matter; I know that you're hypothesis has not made a difference in the fitness world because it has never been published in a reputable journal. Your hypothesis has made its way on getbig and Ironmag magazine and will go no further way. Your hypothesis will rarely, if ever be used by anyone in a gym, let alone a professional athlete.

Unbelievable crap from a schmoe wannabe. You didn't sound educated to me and now you confess you know only what you acquired from the internet. Broscience. You got nothing.

Why on earth you think you can debate with someone like me is one of the wonders of the internet. The dopes literally don't have a clue about how ignorant they truly are.
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: SF1900 on October 22, 2017, 03:23:53 AM
Unbelievable crap from a schmoe wannabe. You didn't sound educated to me and now you confess you know only what you acquired from the internet. Broscience. You got nothing.

Why on earth you think you can debate with someone like me is one of the wonders of the internet. The dopes literally don't have a clue about how ignorant they truly are.

I did not have to study anything fitness-related in college to know that your hypothesis is bunk.

All reputable ideas are published in peer-reviewed journals. Yours is not. I don't need to know anything else. Your hypothesis would not stand up to scientific rigor. It would be demolished. This is why you don't have the guts to get it published in a reputable journal because you know your hypothesis wouldn't stand up to scrutiny. So, you hide behind getbig in order to justify an unsupported hypothesis that would get demolished in the "real world."
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: Vince B on October 22, 2017, 03:59:46 AM
I did not have to study anything fitness-related in college to know that your hypothesis is bunk.

All reputable ideas are published in peer-reviewed journals. Yours is not. I don't need to know anything else. Your hypothesis would not stand up to scientific rigor. It would be demolished. This is why you don't have the guts to get it published in a reputable journal because you know your hypothesis wouldn't stand up to scrutiny. So, you hide behind getbig in order to justify an unsupported hypothesis that would get demolished in the "real world."

Listen to this punk. What do the scientists know about maximum hypertrophy? Very little because it is not a subject worthy of science....or so they believe. The bodybuilding magazines, some books, plus the internet are all we have re hypertrophy and muscles. So don't bring up crap like reputable journals. What are your qualifications to make your statements carry any weight? You don't have any otherwise you would have posted them.
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: sceagacros on October 22, 2017, 04:04:24 AM
Vince, did you ever cross paths with Doug Hepburn back in the day? I find his methods are (still) among the most effective , albeit simple for sustainable, long term strength building. Did body builders like yourself pay much attention to strength athletes like Doug for training tips back then or not so much?
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: Vince B on October 22, 2017, 04:17:17 AM
Vince, did you ever cross paths with Doug Hepburn back in the day? I find his methods are (still) among the most effective , albeit simple for sustainable, long term strength building. Did body builders like yourself pay much attention to strength athletes like Doug for training tips back then or not so much?

I have a story about Doug that I wrote online. Probably lost on Ironage and here in the stories. Both lost because of who knows why.

I knew Doug and he trained me for two weeks back in 1969. We used his home exercise device that he invented and had made. He had

a larger version of that machine. The protocol he devised was 20 sets of biceps curls for 5 reps supersetted with 20 sets of triceps French presses overhead.

The machine I used had resistance only in the positive movement. I gained half an inch on my upper arms in those two weeks which was amazing back then.

I stopped going over to use that machine because he loaned it out to someone else as he was trying to sell them. I abandoned those protocols believing they were excessive.

In retrospect Doug was closer than I was to a method for hypertrophy. Doug was highly intelligent and talented. He also sang at night clubs in Vancouver and he was a writer. I caught up with him in

1980 and have a photo somewhere. Smart guy. He figured out both how to get stronger and bigger. He was the world champion heavyweight weight lifter

in 1953. Was the first guy to bench press over 500 pounds. Doug ended up alone which is pretty sad for someone who pioneered so much in

the Iron game.
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: SF1900 on October 22, 2017, 08:41:46 AM

Listen to this punk. What do the scientists know about maximum hypertrophy? Very little because it is not a subject worthy of science....or so they believe. The bodybuilding magazines, some books, plus the internet are all we have re hypertrophy and muscles. So don't bring up crap like reputable journals. What are your qualifications to make your statements carry any weight? You don't have any otherwise you would have posted them.

Youve already used the whole, "maximum hypertrophy is very little worthy of science." How many more times are you going to use this lame excuse? Ive already explained to you that even if maximum hypertrophy is not worthy of science, it would still be considered a breakthrough in science if you produced a theory of maximum hypertrophy. Even if it didn't directly affect scientific studies, scientists would still be interested in your results and try to generalize it to other populations, e.g., how to increase muscle mass of someone who has a neurodegenerative disorder. So, for the 100th time, scientists use theories all the time that are not directly associated with the populations they study because they try to generalize the results to a larger audience. Plus, its quite obvious that a theory of maximum hypertrophy would have great benefits to boxers, football players, etc, etc, etc.

So, we come back to the reason why you will not present your hypothesis to the larger scientific community. Because you know it will not stand up to scientific rigor. You know it will be immediately destroyed by real scientists. Because you know you have ZERO credible evidence regarding your theory. All-in-all, I do not need a degree to know that you have not presented your hypothesis to the larger scientific community, and, therefore, there is ZERO credibility regarding your hypothesis.
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: chaos on October 22, 2017, 02:57:55 PM
Bump for a link to Vince B's hypothesis in full print.
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: SF1900 on October 22, 2017, 03:17:51 PM
Bump for a link to Vince B's hypothesis in full print.

haha, oh, this will be interesting. Vince will post a link to his Iron Mag article!! haha lol
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: NelsonMuntz on October 22, 2017, 03:29:25 PM
Bump for a link to Vince B's hypothesis in full print.

haha, oh, this will be interesting. Vince will post a link to his Iron Mag article!! haha lol

either way guaranteed  it will be long winded, only focus on arm development ignoring the rest of the body and will be in all blue fonts.

oh and have reference's to the following

-everyone except  Basile is stupid
-challenge everyone to step from out behind the keyboard
-the pullover and deadlift injury
-only need no more than 1gm of protein per day
-flotsam and jetsam

what it won't say is...
-how Vince although still in good shape for many years after his last comp as well as being in good shape for an average 70 something,  he has not been under 18% bodyfat since 1975
-how nobody other than Vince has ever been experimented on for his theory
-his denial about ever being wrong
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Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: NelsonMuntz on October 22, 2017, 03:31:50 PM
is this the article

http://www.ironmanmagazine.com/max-muscle-tension/

Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: chaos on October 22, 2017, 03:47:37 PM
is this the article

http://www.ironmanmagazine.com/max-muscle-tension/


Goodness I hope not. Not even a hypothesis in that. A ton of questions, no answers and surely no studies done to support his one claim that DOMS = muscle growth.
Groundbreaking indeed! :D
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: SF1900 on October 22, 2017, 03:50:49 PM
Goodness I hope not. Not even a hypothesis in that. A ton of questions, no answers and surely no studies done to support his one claim that DOMS = muscle growth.
Groundbreaking indeed! :D

The peer-reviewed process is not a perfect system, but its the closest thing we have to oversee the validity of a hypothesis--team of researchers review every article to see if its publishable quality. With Ironmag, there is nothing like that. Yet, Vince thinks this is an effective way to demonstrate his hypothesis. It's quite sad.
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: chaos on October 22, 2017, 03:53:22 PM
The peer-reviewed process is not a perfect system, but its the closest thing we have to oversee the validity of a hypothesis--team of researchers review every article to see if its publishable quality. With Ironmag, there is nothing like that. Yet, Vince thinks this is an effective way to demonstrate his hypothesis. It's quite sad.
And in the article written he claims to have stolen the idea from Doug Hepburn.  :-\
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: Vince B on October 22, 2017, 08:07:35 PM
The peer-reviewed process is not a perfect system, but its the closest thing we have to oversee the validity of a hypothesis--team of researchers review every article to see if its publishable quality. With Ironmag, there is nothing like that. Yet, Vince thinks this is an effective way to demonstrate his hypothesis. It's quite sad.

Since when are you the authority on what constitutes a method for hypertrophy? What are your qualifications? Zero. Okay, please post here a peer reviewed theory or method for maximum hypertrophy.

I know my method works. Where are your results? What is your theory or method for hypertrophy?

It really is pathetic that some wannabes figure they are smart if they can criticize others but have absolutely no knowledge themselves.
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: Vince B on October 22, 2017, 08:09:25 PM
Goodness I hope not. Not even a hypothesis in that. A ton of questions, no answers and surely no studies done to support his one claim that DOMS = muscle growth.
Groundbreaking indeed! :D

Let me be concise and as direct as possible. You really are a f*#kwit.  ::)
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: chaos on October 22, 2017, 08:16:16 PM
Let me be concise and as direct as possible. You really are a f*#kwit.  ::)
I agree, but I'm not the one claiming to have a theory of hypertrophy  (stolen from Doug Hepburn) and an article with a hundred questions and no answers. That article was an absolutely horrible written waste of space and time and we are all dumber for having read it.
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: SF1900 on October 22, 2017, 08:19:07 PM
Since when are you the authority on what constitutes a method for hypertrophy? What are your qualifications? Zero. Okay, please post here a peer reviewed theory or method for maximum hypertrophy.

I am not an expert on methods of hypertrophy. I don't have any qualifications regarding fitness, nutrition, or training, etc. In the same way that I don't have to be a medical doctor to reject a claim by a medical doctor that he can cure cancer, if he does not provide evidence. Either the person has evidence or they do not.

Further, I don't have to provide any peer-reviewed theory of hypertrophy. All I have to do is ask you to provide good evidence of YOUR hypothesis. Other people's opinions are irrelevant to your claims. You made the claim--the burden is on you to provide evidence for your hypertrophy theory. Other hypotheses/and or theories, have ZERO to do with your claims.

I know my method works. Where are your results? What is your theory or method for hypertrophy?


Anecdotal evidence is a weak form of evidence, and that is the only form of evidence you have. Thus, you do not know if your methods work.

I don't have results, nor do I have a hypothesis of hypertrophy. But, I don't need to have a hypothesis and/or theory of hypertrophy. All I need to do is reject your hypothesis based on the lack of evidence.

It really is pathetic that some wannabes figure they are smart if they can criticize others but have absolutely no knowledge themselves.

I don't have to have knowledge of hypertrophy. You didn't produce any evidence that would require me to have any knowledge of hypertrophy in order to examine your claims.
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: Dokey111 on October 22, 2017, 08:21:16 PM
I have a story about Doug that I wrote online. Probably lost on Ironage and here in the stories. Both lost because of who knows why.

I knew Doug and he trained me for two weeks back in 1969. We used his home exercise device that he invented and had made. He had

a larger version of that machine. The protocol he devised was 20 sets of biceps curls for 5 reps supersetted with 20 sets of triceps French presses overhead.

The machine I used had resistance only in the positive movement. I gained half an inch on my upper arms in those two weeks which was amazing back then.

I stopped going over to use that machine because he loaned it out to someone else as he was trying to sell them. I abandoned those protocols believing they were excessive.

In retrospect Doug was closer than I was to a method for hypertrophy. Doug was highly intelligent and talented. He also sang at night clubs in Vancouver and he was a writer. I caught up with him in

1980 and have a photo somewhere. Smart guy. He figured out both how to get stronger and bigger. He was the world champion heavyweight weight lifter

in 1953. Was the first guy to bench press over 500 pounds. Doug ended up alone which is pretty sad for someone who pioneered so much in

the Iron game.

Vince can you elaborate on how that worked please,
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: chaos on October 22, 2017, 08:21:30 PM
Since when are you the authority on what constitutes a method for hypertrophy? What are your qualifications? Zero. Okay, please post here a peer reviewed theory or method for maximum hypertrophy.

I know my method works. Where are your results? What is your theory or method for hypertrophy?

It really is pathetic that some wannabes figure they are smart if they can criticize others but have absolutely no knowledge themselves.
This would apply to you :)

http://www.nrcresearchpress.com/doi/abs/10.1139/h09-022
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: chaos on October 22, 2017, 08:22:53 PM
Another study

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24714538

Even wiki could teach you something

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muscle_hypertrophy
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: Vince B on October 22, 2017, 08:41:28 PM
Another study

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24714538

Don't quote that unbelievably stupid experiment here. Those protocols are not close to what I advocate.

8 weeks long experiment is almost meaningless for maximum hypertrophy.
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: Vince B on October 22, 2017, 08:45:45 PM
This would apply to you :)

http://www.nrcresearchpress.com/doi/abs/10.1139/h09-022

This study has some value and is worth investigating further.

Tarnopolsky concluded: . "Preliminary data strongly suggest that mitochondrial DNA shifting occurs in skeletal muscle from older adults following resistance-exercise training."
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: SF1900 on October 22, 2017, 08:49:38 PM
Do you see how those people posted in peer-reviewed journals?

Vince is too scared to take that leap.
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 22, 2017, 08:53:14 PM
Black pro bodybuilder from late 80's...Renel Janvier was a nasty SOB who actually had voodoo dolls in his gym bag that he made for guys he hated in the gym and fellow competitors and would say he actually would pin cushion them.

Hahahahahaha, where did you get this from? lmao. Renel and I worked as trainers at the ABC Entertainment Center in Century City and trained trained at Golds, this was the mid-80's. I don't recall any "voodoo dolls in his gym bag....lololololololol
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: chaos on October 22, 2017, 08:55:54 PM
Another study

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24714538

Don't quote that unbelievably stupid experiment here. Those protocols are not close to what I advocate.

8 weeks long experiment is almost meaningless for maximum hypertrophy.
LOL you built half an hypothesis around a single workout with Doug, this was an 8 week scientific study. LMAO!
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: SF1900 on October 22, 2017, 08:58:42 PM
LOL you built half an hypothesis around a single workout with Doug, this was an 8 week scientific study. LMAO!

Gotta love how Vince is criticizing PhD researchers, considering he never conducted research in his life.  :D :D

As you said, these researchers have an 8 week scientific study. Vince has ZERO!!

At this point, how can anyone take Vince seriously?  ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: Vince B on October 22, 2017, 09:09:00 PM
Gotta love how Vince is criticizing PhD researchers, considering he never conducted research in his life.  :D :D

As you said, these researchers have an 8 week scientific study. Vince has ZERO!!

At this point, how can anyone take Vince seriously?  ??? ??? ???

If I have zero then you must be minus some huge number since you know bugger all. Still waiting for you to post your method or any method published by your favourite scientists.
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: Vince B on October 22, 2017, 09:11:41 PM
LOL you built half an hypothesis around a single workout with Doug, this was an 8 week scientific study. LMAO!

Just when I thought you had some capacity to actually comprehend research studies you post this crap. Your comprehension of what I wrote is extremely poor. No hope for dullards like you.

Most muscleheads are so thick they have to be spoon fed otherwise it goes over their empty heads. You really are a dolt. Perfect fodder to be a moderator on a forum.
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: SF1900 on October 22, 2017, 09:13:00 PM
If I have zero then you must be minus some huge number since you know bugger all. Still waiting for you to post your method or any method published by your favourite scientists.

Since I already responded to this asinine comment on the previous page, I will just copy and paste it again:

I don't have to provide any peer-reviewed theory of hypertrophy. All I have to do is ask you to provide good evidence of YOUR hypothesis. Other people's opinions are irrelevant to your claims. You made the claim--the burden is on you to provide evidence for your hypertrophy theory. Other hypotheses/and or theories, have ZERO to do with your claims.

I don't have to have knowledge of hypertrophy. You didn't produce any evidence that would require me to have any knowledge of hypertrophy in order to examine your claims.

Further, I am not making any claims of knowledge. You are. Thus, you have to provide the evidence. That is how science works.
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: chaos on October 22, 2017, 09:31:32 PM

Just when I thought you had some capacity to actually comprehend research studies you post this crap. Your comprehension of what I wrote is extremely poor. No hope for dullards like you.

Most muscleheads are so thick they have to be spoon fed otherwise it goes over their empty heads. You really are a dolt. Perfect fodder to be a moderator on a forum.
You can't comprehend basic scientific principles and I'm the dullard? LOL The one column article you supposedly wrote has more questions asked in it than answered, if you have more of your hypothesis to go along with that article, post it so I can read it and see. Quite obviously I can read and understand real scientific studies, let's see how your studies compare.
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: Vince B on October 22, 2017, 09:59:17 PM
Nothing to see here, folks, move along.
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: chaos on October 22, 2017, 10:01:44 PM
Nothing to see here, folks, just some elderly abuse, move along.
:D
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: SF1900 on October 22, 2017, 10:06:20 PM
Nothing to see here, folks, move along.

Translation:

You have zero scientific evidence to support your hypertrophy hypothesis.

Got it!
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: dj181 on October 22, 2017, 10:25:19 PM
Since I already responded to this asinine comment on the previous page, I will just copy and paste it again:

I don't have to provide any peer-reviewed theory of hypertrophy. All I have to do is ask you to provide good evidence of YOUR hypothesis. Other people's opinions are irrelevant to your claims. You made the claim--the burden is on you to provide evidence for your hypertrophy theory. Other hypotheses/and or theories, have ZERO to do with your claims.

I don't have to have knowledge of hypertrophy. You didn't produce any evidence that would require me to have any knowledge of hypertrophy in order to examine your claims.

Further, I am not making any claims of knowledge. You are. Thus, you have to provide the evidence. That is how science works.

do asains actually create anything new or do they just refine shit?

P.S. nearly every single great invention came from the white man FACT
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: SF1900 on October 22, 2017, 10:36:32 PM
:D

We shall patiently wait for Basile to respond.
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: NelsonMuntz on October 23, 2017, 01:14:57 AM
Vince why don't you once and for all post a whole body training routine and how and where your theory would take place.

Don't just say train biceps, triceps with your theory like you usually do, put it as whole body workout, like day 1 this, day 2 that day 3 and so on.

you talk alot about your theory but never lay it out how you would approach each bodypart for that month using any kind of example routine

how would a week of Vince basile,not basile who only trains fucking arms today Basile, but lets say a twentysomething basile if you could go back in time do a week of workouts with the exercises, sets reps etc using your theory within that weekly split

again dont just blah blah about fucking biceps and triceps, lay it out once and for all or STFU about it already because you haveno credibility just rambling on and not getting to the point.

And from there some poor soul on here who is stuck or wants to try something new just may do your workout, make progress or not, but most important put your theory to the test
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: Simple Simon on October 23, 2017, 01:17:26 AM
Vince why don't you once and for all post a whole body training routine and how and where your theory would take place.

Don't just say train biceps, triceps with your theory like you usually do, put it as whole body workout, like day 1 this, day 2 that day 3 and so on.

you talk alot about your theory but never lay it out how you would approach each bodypart for that month using any kind of example routine

how would a week of Vince basile,not basile who only trains fucking arms today Basile, but lets say a twentysomething basile if you could go back in time do a week of workouts with the exercises, sets reps etc using your theory within that weekly split

again dont just blah blah about fucking biceps and triceps, lay it out once and for all or STFU about it already because you haveno credibility just rambling on and not getting to the point.

And from there some poor soul on here who is stuck or wants to try something new just may do your workout, make progress or not, but most important put your theory to the test
don't encourage him....
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: dj181 on October 23, 2017, 01:45:10 AM
Vince why don't you once and for all post a whole body training routine and how and where your theory would take place.

Don't just say train biceps, triceps with your theory like you usually do, put it as whole body workout, like day 1 this, day 2 that day 3 and so on.

you talk alot about your theory but never lay it out how you would approach each bodypart for that month using any kind of example routine

how would a week of Vince basile,not basile who only trains fucking arms today Basile, but lets say a twentysomething basile if you could go back in time do a week of workouts with the exercises, sets reps etc using your theory within that weekly split

again dont just blah blah about fucking biceps and triceps, lay it out once and for all or STFU about it already because you haveno credibility just rambling on and not getting to the point.

And from there some poor soul on here who is stuck or wants to try something new just may do your workout, make progress or not, but most important put your theory to the test

why you so fucking obsessed with training bro?

its ALL DRUGS

the exception is if you are a real athlete and training for actual sport performance, then yep, training matters and is VERY IMPORTANT
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: SF1900 on October 23, 2017, 06:29:24 AM
don't encourage him....

Vince only cares about biceps.
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: chaos on October 23, 2017, 06:42:14 PM
We shall patiently wait for Basile to respond.
Still waiting patiently?
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: SF1900 on October 23, 2017, 07:28:56 PM
Still waiting patiently?

Yes.

See, what is the difference between Mr. Vince Basile and the other PhD researchers?

The PhD researchers put there hypotheses out into the scientific community in order to be reviewed and scrutinized. Basile has never tried to submit his paper to a peer-reviewed journal because he knows it would get demolished. Instead, he tries to convince getbiggers and other people on bodybuilding message boards that he has some groundbreaking hypothesis. Unfortunately, Basiles hypothesis will never come to be because he is too scared to present it to the larger scientific community.
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: calfzilla on October 23, 2017, 07:45:03 PM
Yes.

See, what is the difference between Mr. Vince Basile and the other PhD researchers?

The PhD researchers put there hypotheses out into the scientific community in order to be reviewed and scrutinized. Basile has never tried to submit his paper to a peer-reviewed journal because he knows it would get demolished. Instead, he tries to convince getbiggers and other people on bodybuilding message boards that he has some groundbreaking hypothesis. Unfortunately, Basiles hypothesis will never come to be because he is too scared to present it to the larger scientific community.

Now if the hypertrophy theory worked wouldn't Vince B have large muscular arms?
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: SF1900 on October 23, 2017, 07:47:30 PM
Now if the hypertrophy theory worked wouldn't Vince B have large muscular arms?

Please refer to his "theory" as a hypothesis. In the scientific world, Vince does not have a "theory." He has a hypothesis.

And, yes, Mr. Basile would have much bigger arms if his hypothesis was effective.
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: BB on October 23, 2017, 07:53:14 PM
Yes.

See, what is the difference between Mr. Vince Basile and the other PhD researchers?

The PhD researchers put there hypotheses out into the scientific community in order to be reviewed and scrutinized. Basile has never tried to submit his paper to a peer-reviewed journal because he knows it would get demolished. Instead, he tries to convince getbiggers and other people on bodybuilding message boards that he has some groundbreaking hypothesis. Unfortunately, Basiles hypothesis will never come to be because he is too scared to present it to the larger scientific community.

Science, Schmience. Were any of those learned fellows Mr. Yukon Territory 1874 like Vince B? I think not.
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: SF1900 on October 23, 2017, 07:56:02 PM
Science, Schmience. Were any of those learned fellows Mr. Yukon Territory 1874 like Vince B? I think not.

haha lol. Good point! Mr. Vince Basile is not a man to be trifled with!
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: chaos on October 23, 2017, 10:26:31 PM
Science be damned!!
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: IRON CROSS on October 24, 2017, 02:54:46 AM
That's not a theory. Its a hypothesis. It still appears like you don't know the difference between a theory and a hypothesis.

Further, your Hypertrophy Hypothesis is delusional with zero evidence, which is why it has never been published in a reputable scientific journal.

 :D ;D
 ;D :D
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: IRON CROSS on October 24, 2017, 02:58:31 AM




Please list the champion bodybuilders who got a patent on a biceps machine and then built it. You haven't used this machine so have no idea how effective it is.



Name just 1 Sydney gym with that "machine"  ;D
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: IRON CROSS on October 24, 2017, 03:02:45 AM
haha, oh, this will be interesting. Vince will post a link to his Iron Mag article!! haha lol


 :D :D :D
   
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: IRON CROSS on October 24, 2017, 03:07:19 AM
Since when are you the authority on what constitutes a method for hypertrophy? What are your qualifications? Zero. Okay, please post here a peer reviewed theory or method for maximum hypertrophy.

I know my method works. Where are your results? What is your theory or method for hypertrophy?

It really is pathetic that some wannabes figure they are smart if they can criticize others but have absolutely no knowledge themselves.

Name 1 (yes just 1) hyperbullshit training gym in Sydney  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: IRON CROSS on October 24, 2017, 03:14:00 AM
Translation:

You have zero scientific evidence to support your hypertrophy hypothesis.

Got it!

I wonder why the Australian Institute of Sports ignored Vincenzos hyperbullshit  all this time ???

(AIS operates on $ 300 000 000 p/a)  ;)

 :D
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: IRON CROSS on October 24, 2017, 03:16:18 AM
Now if the hypertrophy theory worked wouldn't Vince B have large muscular arms?

This is very complex question  >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: Vince B on October 24, 2017, 03:59:35 AM
Why?


Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: JAGO on October 24, 2017, 08:33:50 AM
Vince B., pure flotsam.

J
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: SF1900 on October 24, 2017, 08:43:29 AM
Why?




Why are you using this video? It has ZERO to do with your assertions. Feynamn knew the importance of publishing in peer-reviewed journals. This video does not apply to you at all. Feynman published in reputable sources. You didn't. LOL at comparing yourself to Feynman!

The Feynman lectures on physics
RP Feynman, RB Leighton, M Sands, SB Treiman
Physics Today 17, 45
   14745
*
   1964
Quantum mechanics and path integration
RP Feynman, AR Hibbs
McGraw–Hill
   11719
*
   1965
Simulating physics with computers
RP Feynman
International journal of theoretical physics 21 (6), 467-488
   6069   1982
Space-time approach to non-relativistic quantum mechanics
RP Feynman
Reviews of Modern Physics 20 (2), 367
   4330   1948
Forces in molecules
RP Feynman
Physical Review 56 (4), 340
   3551   1939
There's plenty of room at the bottom
RP Feynman
Engineering and Science 23 (5), 22-36
   3058   1960
Very high-energy collisions of hadrons
RP Feynman
Physical Review Letters 23 (24), 1415-1417
   2952   1969
Theory of the Fermi interaction
RP Feynman, M Gell-Mann
Physical Review 109 (1), 193
   2799   1958
The character of physical law
R Feynman
MIT press
   2692   1967
The theory of a general quantum system interacting with a linear dissipative system
RP Feynman, FL Vernon
Annals of physics 24, 118-173
   2483   1963
Photon--hadron interactions
RP Feynman
WA Benjamin, Inc., Reading, MA
   2169   1972
QED: The strange theory of light and matter
RP Feyman
Universities Press
   2142
*
   1985
Space-time approach to quantum electrodynamics
RP Feynman
Physical Review 76 (6), 769
   1723   1949
The theory of positrons
RP Feynman
Physical Review 76 (6), 749
   1628   1949
Interaction with the absorber as the mechanism of radiation
JA Wheeler, RP Feynman
Reviews of Modern Physics 17 (2-3), 157-181
   1477   1945
Surely You are Joking Mr Feynmanl: Adventures of a Curious Character
RP Feynman
Bantam Books
   1360
*
   1986
Quantum-mechanical computers, Suc
R Feynman
Phys. Sci 149 (4), 671-688
   1330
*
   1986
An operator calculus having applications in quantum electrodynamics
RP Feynman
Physical Review 84 (1), 108
   1264   1951
Slow electrons in a polar crystal
RP Feynman
Physical Review 97 (3), 660
   1234   1955
Quark elastic scattering as a source of high-transverse-momentum mesons
RD Field, RP Feynman
Physical Review D 15 (9), 2590
   1203   1977
Geometrical representation of the Schrödinger equation for solving maser problems
RP Feynman, FL Vernon, RW Hellwarth
Journal of Applied Physics 28 (1), 49-52
   1145   1957
Mathematical formulation of the quantum theory of electromagnetic interaction
RP Feynman
Physical Review 80 (3), 440
   1123   1950
Classical electrodynamics in terms of direct interparticle action
JA Wheeler, RP Feynman
Reviews of Modern Physics 21 (3), 425-433
   1001   1949
Quantum theory of gravitation
RP Feynman
Acta Phys. Polon. 24
   878
*
   1963
Feynman lectures on gravitation
RP Feynman, FB Morinigo, WG Wagner
Reading, MA: Addison-Wesley,| c1995, edited by Hatfield, Brian 1
   858
*
   1995
Feynman lectures on computation
RP Feynman, JG Hey, RW Allen
Addison-Wesley Longman Publishing Co., Inc.
   793   1998
" What do you care what other people think?": further adventures of a curious character
RP Feynman, R Leighton
WW Norton & Company
   631   1988
The pleasure of finding things out: The best short works of Richard P. Feynman
RP Feynman
Basic Books
   602   2005
Effective classical partition functions
RP Feynman, H Kleinert
Physical Review A 34 (6), 5080-5084
   531   1986
Quantum-chromodynamic approach for the large-transverse-momentum production of particles and jets
RP Feynman, RD Field, GC Fox
Physical Review D 18 (9), 3320
   454   1978
Mobility of slow electrons in a polar crystal
RP Feynman, RW Hellwarth, CK Iddings, PM Platzman
Physical Review 127 (4), 1004
   385   1962
Six Easy Pieces: Essentials of Physics by Its Most Brilliant Teacher
RP Feynman
Basic Books
   366
*
   1996
The meaning of it all: Thoughts of a citizen-scientist
RP Feynman
Basic Books
   347
*
   1999
The theory of fundamental processes
RP Feynman
Addison-Wesley
   347   1998
A relativistic cut-off for classical electrodynamics
RP Feynman
Physical Review 74 (8), 939
   332   1948
Radiative corrections to Compton scattering
LM Brown, RP Feynman
Physical Review 85 (2), 231
   328   1952
The development of the space-time view of quantum electrodynamics
RP Feynman
Physics, 1963-1970 4, 155
   306
*
   1998
Cargo cult science
RP Feynman
Engineering and Science 37 (7), 10-13
   291   1974
Correlations among particles and jets produced with large transverse momenta
RP Feynman, RD Field, GC Fox
Nuclear Physics B 128 (1), 1-65
   289   1977
Relativistic cut-off for quantum electrodynamics
RP Feynman
Physical Review 74 (10), 1430
   251   1948
The principle of least action in quantum mechanics.
RP Feynman
   221   1942
Group U (6)⊗ U (6) Generated by Current Components
RP Feynman, M Gell-Mann, G Zweig
Physical Review Letters 13 (22), 678-680
   196   1964
Infinitesimal machinery
R Feynman
Microelectromechanical Systems, Journal of 2 (1), 4-14
   181   1993
What is science
R Feynman
   158   1968
Theory of inelastic scattering of cold neutrons from liquid helium
M Cohen, RP Feynman
Physical Review 107 (1), 13
   153   1957
Lectures on computation
RP Feynman
Westview, Boulder
   140   1996
Miniaturization
RP Feynman, HD Gilbert
Reinhold, New York, 282-296
   139   1961
Personal observations on the reliability of the shuttle
RP Feynman
Report of the Presidential Commission on the Space Shuttle Challenger …
   131   1986
Appendix F: Personal observations on the reliability of the shuttle
RP Feynman
Report of the Presidential Commission on the Space Shuttle Challenger Accident
   131   1986
Feynman Vorlesungen über Physik, Band III: Quantenmechanik
RP Feynman, R Leighton, M Sands
Oldenbourg Verlag, München, Wien
   130
*
   1999
Feynman física
RP Feynman, RB Leighton, M Sands
Addison Wesley Iberoamericana
   125
*
   1987
Six not-so-easy pieces
RP Feynman, RB Leighton
Basic Books
   122   2011
The λ-transition in liquid helium
RP Feynman
Physical Review 90 (6), 1116
   119   1953
E SANDS, M
R Feynman, R Leighton
The Feynman Lectures on Physics: Addison-Wesley 1
   115   1977
no. 2: Electromagnétisme 2: traitant surtout de l'électromagnétisme et de la matière
RP Feynman, RB Leighton, ML Sands
InterEditions
   112
*
   1979
The concept of probability in quantum mechanics
RP Feynman
Proceedings of the Second Berkeley Symposium on Mathematical Statistics and …
   97   1951
Feynman's thesis: a new approach to quantum theory
RP Feynman, LM Brown
World Scientific Publishing Company
   96
*
   1942
Le cours de physique de Feynman
RP Feynman, RB Leighton, ML Sands
Addison-Wesley
   93
*
   1970
Feynman's Lost Lecture: The Motion of Planets Around the Sun
DL Goodstein, JR Goodstein
Engineering and Science 59 (3), 14-21
   92   1996
TheFeynman lectures on physics
RP Feynman, RB Leighton, M Sands, CA Heras, R Gómez, E Oelker, ...
Fondo Educativo Interamericano, cop.
   86
*
   1971
Feynmana wykłady z fizyki
RP Feynman, RB Leighton, ML Sands, A Lenda, SL Bażański, ...
Państwowe Wydawnictwo Naukowe
   84
*
   1970
QED: Seltsame Theorie des Lichts und der Materie
RP Feynman
Piper
   63
*
   1997
Mr. Feynman goes to Washington
RP Feynman
Engineering and Science 51 (1), 6-22
   63   1987
Comportamiento cuántico
R Feynman, RB Leighton, M Sands
Física 1, 37
   59
*
   1987
Feynmanovy přednášky z fyziky s řešenými příklady 2/3
RP Feynman, RB Leighton, M Sands, I Štoll
Fragment
   56   2001
The value of science
RP Feynman
Engineering and Science 19 (3), 13-15
   53   1955
El carácter de la ley física
RP Feynman, AB Domènech
   49
*
   1983
Feynmanove prednášky z fyziky./Zv./1
RP Feynman, R Leighton, M Sands, RB Leighton
Alfa
   47   1980
Vom Wesen physikalischer Gesetze: mit 33 Abbildungen
RP Feynman, G Kurz, R Mößbauer, S Summerer
Piper
   44
*
   2001
No ordinary genius: the illustrated Richard Feynman
RP Feynman, C Sykes
WW Norton & Company
   44   1995
Symmetries in elementary particle physics
RP Feynman, A Zichichi
Academic Press
   37   1965
Closed loop and tree diagrams
RP Feynman
Magic Without Magic: John Archibald Wheeler 1, 355
   33   1972
La fisica di Feynman
RP Feynman, RB Leighton, M Sands
Masson
   32
*
   1996
New textbooks for the" new" mathematics
RP Feynman
Engineering and Science 28 (6), 9-15
   31   1965
Lumière et matière: une étrange histoire
RP Feynman
Seuil
   30
*
   1992
Fejnmanovskije lekcii po fizike. 2. Prostranstvo-vremja-dviženije
RP Feynman, RB Leighton, M Sands
Mir
   30
*
   1967
" Sie belieben wohl zu scherzen, Mr. Feynman!": Abenteuer eines neugierigen Physikers
RP Feynman, E Hutchings, H Fritzsch, HJ Metzger
Piper
   26
*
   1988
Los Alamos from below
RP Feynman
Reminiscences of Los Alamos 1943–1945, 105-132
   22   1980
Electrodinámica cuántica: La extraña teoría de la luz y la materia
RP Feynman
Alianza Editorial
   20   1988
Los principios de la mecánica estadística
R Feynman, RB Leighton, M Sands
Física 1
   17
*
   1987
Selected papers of Richard Feynman: with commentary
RP Feynman, LM Brown
World Scientific Publishing Company
   16   2000
Most of the good stuff. Memories of Richard Feynman
LM Brown, JS Rigden
New York: American Institute of Physics (AIP),| c1993, edited by Brown …
   16   1993
Sechs physikalische Fingerübungen: Physikalische fingerübungen für fortgeschrittene, zwei bestseller in einem band
RP Feynman
Piper
   15
*
   2007
Está Ud. De broma Sr. Feynman?
RP Feynman
Alianza
   15   1992
The present status of quantum electrodynamics
RP Feynman
The Quantum Theory of Fields 1, 61
   15   1961
Kümmert Sie, was andere Leute denken?
RP Feynman
Piper
   13
*
   2004
The present situation in fundamental theoretical physics
RP Feynman
Anais da Academia Brasileira de Ciências 26 (1), 51-9
   13   1954
Mainly mechanics, radiation, and heat
RP Feynman, RB Leighton, ML Sands
Addison Wesley Publishing Company
   12   1963
The dignified professor
RP Feynman, R Leighton
Engineering and Science 48 (2), 4-10
   11   1984
Problems in quantizing the gravitational field, and the massless Yang-Mills field
RP Feynman
Magic Without Magic: John Archibald Wheeler 1, 377
   11   1972
Mécanique quantique
RP Feynman, RB Leighton, M Sands, F Muller, RP Feynman, ...
Adison-Wesley
   11   1970
Quantenelektrodynamik
RP Feynman, AR Hibbs
Bibliograph. Inst., BI-Wissenschaftsverl.
   11   1969
Leighton, RB, and Sands, M.(1963)
RP Feynman
The Feynman lectures on physics 1, 4-1
   11   
Don't you have time to think?
RP Feynman
Penguin
   10   2006
Qué te importa lo que piensen los demás?
RP Feynman
Alianza
   10
*
   1990
La Nature des lois physiques
RP Feynman
R. Laffont
   10   1970
Classic Feynman: all the adventures of a curious character
RP Feynman
WW Norton
   9   2006
Was soll das alles?
RP Feynman
Piper
   9   1999
Dirac Memorial Lecture,‘
RP Feynman
The reason for antiparticles’ CUP
   9   1987
Probability & Uncertainty: The Quantum Mechanical View of Nature
RP Feynman
Education Development Center
   8   1964
The relation of science and religion
RP Feynman
Engineering and Science 19 (9), 20-23
   8   1956
Los Alamos from Below--Reminiscences of 1943-1945
RP Feynman
Engineering and Science 39 (2), 11-30
   7   1976
Neutrino'72
RP Feynman
OMKDK—TECHNOINFORM, Budapest
   7   1972
Velocity Acquired by an Electron in a Finite Electric Field in a Polar Crystal
KK Thornber, RP Feynman
Physical Review B 4 (2), 674
   7   1971
The Very Best of the Feynman Lectures
RP Feynman
Basic Books
   6   2005
Models, the Brownian motion, and the disunities of physics
RIG Hughes
The Cosmos of Science. Essays of Exploration, 325-347
   6   1997
" Che t'importa di ciò che dice la gente?": altre avventure di uno scienziato curioso
RP Feynman, R Leighton, S Coyaud
Zanichelli
   6
*
   1989
Partons
RP Feynman, ECG Sudarshan
California, Inst. of Tech., Pasadena
   6   1973
The relation of physics to other sciences
RP Feynman
AAPT
   6   1964
talk presented at Argonne Symposium on High Energy Interactions and Multiparticle Production, 1970
RP Feynman
   6   
The Problem of Teaching Physics in Latin America
RP Feynman
Engineering and Science 27 (2), 21-30
   5   1963
QED-osobliwa teoria światła i materii
RP Feynman, H Białkowska, R Leighton
Prószyński i S-ka
   4   2001
The art of Richard P. Feynman: images by a curious character
RP Feynman, M Feynman
Routledge
   4   1995
Quantum holography, synthetic aperture radar imaging and computed tomographic imaging
W Schempp
Quantum Measurements in Optics, 323-343
   4   1992
To nemyslíte vážne, pán Feynman!: Dobrodružstvá všetečnej povahy
RP Feynman
Obzor
   4   1990
Exercises in introductory physics
RB Leighton, RE Vogt, RP Feynman
Addison-Wesley Pub. Co.
   4   1969
The Computing Machines in the Future
R Feynman
Nishina Memorial Lectures, 99-114
   3   2008
Modern physics
R Feynman
New York: John Willey and Sons
   3   1966
La thèse de Feynman: une nouvelle approche de la théorie quantique
RP Feynman
Pearson Education France
   2   2007
Quantum Mysteries Disentangled
R Garret
   2   2001
Las partículas elementales y las leyes de la física
RP Feynman, S Weinberg
Gedisa
   2   1991
Wykłady z mechaniki statystycznej
RP Feynman
   2   1980
High-Energy Physics
HA Bethe, J Schwinger, RP Feynman
The World of the Atom, Volume 1. Edited with commentaries by Henry A. Boorse …
   2   1966
The Special Theory of Relativity
RP Feynman
AAPT
   2   1964
The Axial Vector Current in Beta Decay
RP Feynman, M Gell-Mann, M Lévy
   2   1960
Quantum Mechanics II
R Feynman
   2   1953
Harakter fizičeskih zakonov
RP Feynman
" Nauka" Glavnaâ Radakciâ Fiziko-Matematičeskoj Literatury
   1
*
   1987
An Interview on Discovery in Physics with Richard P. Feynman and Fred Hoyle
RP Feynman, F Hoyle
Leonardo 9 (2), 143-146
   1   1976
On the Pseudoscalar Meson Theory of the Deuteron
JL Lopes, R Feynman
Symposium on New Research Techniques in Physics 251
   1   1952
Physique: les astuces de Feynman: 4 cours inédits
RP Feynman, MA Gottlieb, R Leighton, M Sands, RB Leighton, R Vogt
Pearson Education France
      2006
Visions scientifiques-Analyses de livres-Ou'en pensez-vous Monsieur Feynman?
R Feynman
Pour la Science, 100
      2006
Física nuclear teórica
RP Feynman
Editora Livraria da Fisica
      2005
Nishina Memorial Lecture, August 9, 1985
RP Feynman
Feynman and Computation: Exploring TheLimits of Computers, 225
      2002
Komarimasu Fainman san
RP Feynman, R Leighton
Iwanami
      2001
El sabio, el genio y la fantasía
RP Feynman
Mundo científico, 65-67
      2000
" Mah ikhpat lekha mah ḥoshvim aḥerim?": hemshekh harpatḳaʼotaṿ shel ish muzar ke-fi she-supar le-Ralf Laiṭon
RP Feynman, R Leighton, ʻImanuʼel Loṭem
Maḥbarot le-sifrut
      1996
" Ata beṭaḥ mitlotsets, Misṭer Fainman!": harpatḳaʼotaṿ shel ish muzar ke-fi she-supru le-Ralf Laiṭon
RP Feynman, R Leighton, E Hutchings, ʻImanuʼel Loṭem
Maḥbarot le-sifrut
      1995
FEYNMAN PATH INTEGRAL FOR THE DIRAC EQUATION IN A CURVED SPACE-TIME
RP Feynman
      1991
Selections: Social Origins, Education and Training of the East Central European Officers (East European Monographs)
B KIRALY
      1988
Gojōdan desho Feynman san
RP Feynman, R Leighton
Iwanami Shoten
      1986
La relación de las matemáticas con la física
RP Feynman
El carácter de la ley
      1985
La nature de la physique
JMT LEVY-LEBLOND, HT ISAAC, R FEYNMAN, FT BALIBAR
Editions du Seuil
      1980
Fejnmanovskie lekcii po fizike: Kvantovaja mechanika/[perevod s angl. GI Kopylova].
RP Feynman
Mir
      1978
Statističeskaâ mehanika: kurs lekcij
RP Feynman
Mir
      1978
Fejnmanovskie lekcii po fizike: Ėlektrodinamika/[perevod s angl. AV Efremova...]-Izd. 2
RP Feynman
Mir
      1977
Summary Talk
RP Feynman
Usp. Fiz. Nauk 119 (PRINT-74-1250 (CAL-TECH)), 689-713
      1974
Zadachi i uprazhnenii︠a︡ s otvetami i reshenii︠a︡mi
RB Leighton, AP Levani︠u︡k, R Vogt, G Neugebauer
Mir
      1969
Feĭnmanovskie lekt︠s︡ii po fizike
RP Feynman, RB Leighton, ML Sands
Mir
      1969
Fejnmanovskie lekcii po fizike: Zadači i upražneniâ s otvetami i rešeniâmi
RP Feynman
Mir
      1969
Kvantovaja elektrodinamika
RP Feynman
Mir
      1964
An Historic Moment in Physics
RP Feynman
Engineering and Science 20 (5), 17-18
      1957
ON THE PSEUDOSCALAR MESON THEORY OF THE DEUTERON. Physics Note No. 2
JL Lopes, RP Feynman
Centro Brasileiro de Pesquisas Fisicas, Rio de Janeiro (Brazil)
      1952
A new approach to quantum electrodynamics: notes on the lectures of Dr. Richard P. Feynman
RP Feynman, M Fuchs, RJ Riddell
[Physics Department] University of Michigan
      1949
Nuclear Physics
JA Wheeler, E Fermi, RP Feynman
      1940
Properties of Dark Matter Haloes in the Cosmic Web
RP Feynman
      
Basic concepts of polymer physics
R Feynman
      
Three Exciting Underwater Environments—Coral Reefs, Submarine Canyons, and Kelp Beds
RP Feynman, RB Leighton, M Sands
      
Quantum Mechanics: A Brief Introduction
R Feynman
      
Feynman's Lost Lecture
RP Feynman
      
A quantum discovery
R Feynman, PT de Chardin
      
Simplicity and Complexity in the Description of Nature• html• pdf•
M Gell-Mann, M Rees, R Finn, JF Benton, RP Feynman, P Timing, ...
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: LurkerNoMore on October 24, 2017, 12:01:43 PM
Bump for Beefy
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: dj181 on October 24, 2017, 12:34:31 PM
hey vince

whats your thoughts on asains?
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: calfzilla on October 24, 2017, 01:05:40 PM
hey vince

whats your thoughts on asains?

This pic of sf1900 reminds me of another iconic bodybuilding photo.


(http://www.realmuscleforum.com/content/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/arnodl-in-the-water-knee-deep.jpg)
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: _bruce_ on October 24, 2017, 01:29:06 PM
I have a story about Doug that I wrote online. Probably lost on Ironage and here in the stories. Both lost because of who knows why.

I knew Doug and he trained me for two weeks back in 1969. We used his home exercise device that he invented and had made. He had

a larger version of that machine. The protocol he devised was 20 sets of biceps curls for 5 reps supersetted with 20 sets of triceps French presses overhead.

The machine I used had resistance only in the positive movement. I gained half an inch on my upper arms in those two weeks which was amazing back then.

I stopped going over to use that machine because he loaned it out to someone else as he was trying to sell them. I abandoned those protocols believing they were excessive.

In retrospect Doug was closer than I was to a method for hypertrophy. Doug was highly intelligent and talented. He also sang at night clubs in Vancouver and he was a writer. I caught up with him in

1980 and have a photo somewhere. Smart guy. He figured out both how to get stronger and bigger. He was the world champion heavyweight weight lifter

in 1953. Was the first guy to bench press over 500 pounds. Doug ended up alone which is pretty sad for someone who pioneered so much in

the Iron game.

Sounds pretty interesting. The only thing that I have learned about hypertrophy so far is... lots of reps + lots of training days. The trainees that I have asked about their theories and experiences have told me that "they grew the most when they were training nearly every day".
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: Ted SuperSet on October 24, 2017, 01:44:10 PM
Why are you using this video? It has ZERO to do with your assertions. Feynamn knew the importance of publishing in peer-reviewed journals. This video does not apply to you at all. Feynman published in reputable sources. You didn't. LOL at comparing yourself to Feynman!

The Feynman lectures on physics
RP Feynman, RB Leighton, M Sands, SB Treiman
Physics Today 17, 45
   14745
*
   1964
Quantum mechanics and path integration
RP Feynman, AR Hibbs
McGraw–Hill
   11719
*
   1965
Simulating physics with computers
RP Feynman
International journal of theoretical physics 21 (6), 467-488
   6069   1982
Space-time approach to non-relativistic quantum mechanics
RP Feynman
Reviews of Modern Physics 20 (2), 367
   4330   1948
Forces in molecules
RP Feynman
Physical Review 56 (4), 340
   3551   1939
There's plenty of room at the bottom
RP Feynman
Engineering and Science 23 (5), 22-36
   3058   1960
Very high-energy collisions of hadrons
RP Feynman
Physical Review Letters 23 (24), 1415-1417
   2952   1969
Theory of the Fermi interaction
RP Feynman, M Gell-Mann
Physical Review 109 (1), 193
   2799   1958
The character of physical law
R Feynman
MIT press
   2692   1967
The theory of a general quantum system interacting with a linear dissipative system
RP Feynman, FL Vernon
Annals of physics 24, 118-173
   2483   1963
Photon--hadron interactions
RP Feynman
WA Benjamin, Inc., Reading, MA
   2169   1972
QED: The strange theory of light and matter
RP Feyman
Universities Press
   2142
*
   1985
Space-time approach to quantum electrodynamics
RP Feynman
Physical Review 76 (6), 769
   1723   1949
The theory of positrons
RP Feynman
Physical Review 76 (6), 749
   1628   1949
Interaction with the absorber as the mechanism of radiation
JA Wheeler, RP Feynman
Reviews of Modern Physics 17 (2-3), 157-181
   1477   1945
Surely You are Joking Mr Feynmanl: Adventures of a Curious Character
RP Feynman
Bantam Books
   1360
*
   1986
Quantum-mechanical computers, Suc
R Feynman
Phys. Sci 149 (4), 671-688
   1330
*
   1986
An operator calculus having applications in quantum electrodynamics
RP Feynman
Physical Review 84 (1), 108
   1264   1951
Slow electrons in a polar crystal
RP Feynman
Physical Review 97 (3), 660
   1234   1955
Quark elastic scattering as a source of high-transverse-momentum mesons
RD Field, RP Feynman
Physical Review D 15 (9), 2590
   1203   1977
Geometrical representation of the Schrödinger equation for solving maser problems
RP Feynman, FL Vernon, RW Hellwarth
Journal of Applied Physics 28 (1), 49-52
   1145   1957
Mathematical formulation of the quantum theory of electromagnetic interaction
RP Feynman
Physical Review 80 (3), 440
   1123   1950
Classical electrodynamics in terms of direct interparticle action
JA Wheeler, RP Feynman
Reviews of Modern Physics 21 (3), 425-433
   1001   1949
Quantum theory of gravitation
RP Feynman
Acta Phys. Polon. 24
   878
*
   1963
Feynman lectures on gravitation
RP Feynman, FB Morinigo, WG Wagner
Reading, MA: Addison-Wesley,| c1995, edited by Hatfield, Brian 1
   858
*
   1995
Feynman lectures on computation
RP Feynman, JG Hey, RW Allen
Addison-Wesley Longman Publishing Co., Inc.
   793   1998
" What do you care what other people think?": further adventures of a curious character
RP Feynman, R Leighton
WW Norton & Company
   631   1988
The pleasure of finding things out: The best short works of Richard P. Feynman
RP Feynman
Basic Books
   602   2005
Effective classical partition functions
RP Feynman, H Kleinert
Physical Review A 34 (6), 5080-5084
   531   1986
Quantum-chromodynamic approach for the large-transverse-momentum production of particles and jets
RP Feynman, RD Field, GC Fox
Physical Review D 18 (9), 3320
   454   1978
Mobility of slow electrons in a polar crystal
RP Feynman, RW Hellwarth, CK Iddings, PM Platzman
Physical Review 127 (4), 1004
   385   1962
Six Easy Pieces: Essentials of Physics by Its Most Brilliant Teacher
RP Feynman
Basic Books
   366
*
   1996
The meaning of it all: Thoughts of a citizen-scientist
RP Feynman
Basic Books
   347
*
   1999
The theory of fundamental processes
RP Feynman
Addison-Wesley
   347   1998
A relativistic cut-off for classical electrodynamics
RP Feynman
Physical Review 74 (8), 939
   332   1948
Radiative corrections to Compton scattering
LM Brown, RP Feynman
Physical Review 85 (2), 231
   328   1952
The development of the space-time view of quantum electrodynamics
RP Feynman
Physics, 1963-1970 4, 155
   306
*
   1998
Cargo cult science
RP Feynman
Engineering and Science 37 (7), 10-13
   291   1974
Correlations among particles and jets produced with large transverse momenta
RP Feynman, RD Field, GC Fox
Nuclear Physics B 128 (1), 1-65
   289   1977
Relativistic cut-off for quantum electrodynamics
RP Feynman
Physical Review 74 (10), 1430
   251   1948
The principle of least action in quantum mechanics.
RP Feynman
   221   1942
Group U (6)⊗ U (6) Generated by Current Components
RP Feynman, M Gell-Mann, G Zweig
Physical Review Letters 13 (22), 678-680
   196   1964
Infinitesimal machinery
R Feynman
Microelectromechanical Systems, Journal of 2 (1), 4-14
   181   1993
What is science
R Feynman
   158   1968
Theory of inelastic scattering of cold neutrons from liquid helium
M Cohen, RP Feynman
Physical Review 107 (1), 13
   153   1957
Lectures on computation
RP Feynman
Westview, Boulder
   140   1996
Miniaturization
RP Feynman, HD Gilbert
Reinhold, New York, 282-296
   139   1961
Personal observations on the reliability of the shuttle
RP Feynman
Report of the Presidential Commission on the Space Shuttle Challenger …
   131   1986
Appendix F: Personal observations on the reliability of the shuttle
RP Feynman
Report of the Presidential Commission on the Space Shuttle Challenger Accident
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Physical Review 90 (6), 1116
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The Feynman Lectures on Physics: Addison-Wesley 1
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RP Feynman, RB Leighton, ML Sands
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The concept of probability in quantum mechanics
RP Feynman
Proceedings of the Second Berkeley Symposium on Mathematical Statistics and …
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Feynman's thesis: a new approach to quantum theory
RP Feynman, LM Brown
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Le cours de physique de Feynman
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Feynman's Lost Lecture: The Motion of Planets Around the Sun
DL Goodstein, JR Goodstein
Engineering and Science 59 (3), 14-21
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QED: Seltsame Theorie des Lichts und der Materie
RP Feynman
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RP Feynman
Engineering and Science 51 (1), 6-22
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Física 1, 37
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The value of science
RP Feynman
Engineering and Science 19 (3), 13-15
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RP Feynman, R Leighton, M Sands, RB Leighton
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Sechs physikalische Fingerübungen: Physikalische fingerübungen für fortgeschrittene, zwei bestseller in einem band
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Está Ud. De broma Sr. Feynman?
RP Feynman
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   15   1961
Kümmert Sie, was andere Leute denken?
RP Feynman
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RP Feynman
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RP Feynman, RB Leighton, ML Sands
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RP Feynman, R Leighton
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RP Feynman
Magic Without Magic: John Archibald Wheeler 1, 377
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Mécanique quantique
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RP Feynman, AR Hibbs
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RP Feynman
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RP Feynman
Engineering and Science 19 (9), 20-23
   8   1956
Los Alamos from Below--Reminiscences of 1943-1945
RP Feynman
Engineering and Science 39 (2), 11-30
   7   1976
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RP Feynman
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The Very Best of the Feynman Lectures
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Models, the Brownian motion, and the disunities of physics
RIG Hughes
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   6   1997
" Che t'importa di ciò che dice la gente?": altre avventure di uno scienziato curioso
RP Feynman, R Leighton, S Coyaud
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RP Feynman, ECG Sudarshan
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The Problem of Teaching Physics in Latin America
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QED-osobliwa teoria światła i materii
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To nemyslíte vážne, pán Feynman!: Dobrodružstvá všetečnej povahy
RP Feynman
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RB Leighton, RE Vogt, RP Feynman
Addison-Wesley Pub. Co.
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The Computing Machines in the Future
R Feynman
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   3   2008
Modern physics
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La thèse de Feynman: une nouvelle approche de la théorie quantique
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Pearson Education France
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Las partículas elementales y las leyes de la física
RP Feynman, S Weinberg
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   2   1991
Wykłady z mechaniki statystycznej
RP Feynman
   2   1980
High-Energy Physics
HA Bethe, J Schwinger, RP Feynman
The World of the Atom, Volume 1. Edited with commentaries by Henry A. Boorse …
   2   1966
The Special Theory of Relativity
RP Feynman
AAPT
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The Axial Vector Current in Beta Decay
RP Feynman, M Gell-Mann, M Lévy
   2   1960
Quantum Mechanics II
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Harakter fizičeskih zakonov
RP Feynman
" Nauka" Glavnaâ Radakciâ Fiziko-Matematičeskoj Literatury
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An Interview on Discovery in Physics with Richard P. Feynman and Fred Hoyle
RP Feynman, F Hoyle
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   1   1976
On the Pseudoscalar Meson Theory of the Deuteron
JL Lopes, R Feynman
Symposium on New Research Techniques in Physics 251
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Physique: les astuces de Feynman: 4 cours inédits
RP Feynman, MA Gottlieb, R Leighton, M Sands, RB Leighton, R Vogt
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Visions scientifiques-Analyses de livres-Ou'en pensez-vous Monsieur Feynman?
R Feynman
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Física nuclear teórica
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" Ata beṭaḥ mitlotsets, Misṭer Fainman!": harpatḳaʼotaṿ shel ish muzar ke-fi she-supru le-Ralf Laiṭon
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Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: SF1900 on October 24, 2017, 02:00:45 PM
This pic of sf1900 reminds me of another iconic bodybuilding photo.


(http://www.realmuscleforum.com/content/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/arnodl-in-the-water-knee-deep.jpg)

The pic above is pretty similar to Arnold. I am not that far off. But, still in a bulking phase.
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: calfzilla on October 24, 2017, 02:19:35 PM
The pic above is pretty similar to Arnold. I am not that far off. But, still in a bulking phase.

And you don't have a need to hide your calves in a muddy pond like that eurotwink.

Sf1900>Arnold
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: NelsonMuntz on October 24, 2017, 02:32:27 PM
Vince why don't you once and for all post a whole body training routine and how and where your theory would take place.

Don't just say train biceps, triceps with your theory like you usually do, put it as whole body workout, like day 1 this, day 2 that day 3 and so on.

you talk alot about your theory but never lay it out how you would approach each bodypart for that month using any kind of example routine

how would a week of Vince basile,not basile who only trains fucking arms today Basile, but lets say a twentysomething basile if you could go back in time do a week of workouts with the exercises, sets reps etc using your theory within that weekly split

again dont just blah blah about fucking biceps and triceps, lay it out once and for all or STFU about it already because you haveno credibility just rambling on and not getting to the point.

And from there some poor soul on here who is stuck or wants to try something new just may do your workout, make progress or not, but most important put your theory to the test

Like how Vince avoids the above like the plague yet continues being vague about his theory

c'mon vince if you were tenty again how would you split this all up in a week , be specific, and not just the supinator and gironda triceps extensions, people train more than arms.
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: _bruce_ on October 24, 2017, 02:44:00 PM
Like how Vince avoids the above like the plague yet continues being vague about his theory

c'mon vince if you were tenty again how would you split this all up in a week , be specific, and not just the supinator and gironda triceps extensions, people train more than arms.

The thing he's working on may most likely be a pipe dream but there is a slight chance that Vince has come up with something good and also collected data to back it up.

Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: SF1900 on October 24, 2017, 02:51:49 PM
The thing he's working on may most likely be a pipe dream but there is a slight chance that Vince has come up with something good and also collected data to back it up.



He has not collected data. Well, he may have collected data, but not data that would be considered reliable or valid in the scientific community. Vince has probably collected data on himself, which is obviously, not a good method of data collection. I doubt that Vince has collected objective data.

I mean, I can collect data on myself and state that I gained 3" of  muscles based on my own hypothesis.  ::) ::) Further, collecting data is no easy task. Most people who want to collect solid data are PhD's who have been extensively trained in data collection. You just don't wake up one morning and decide that you're an expert on data collection, in the same way that you don't wake up one day and believe that you're an astrophysicist (when youre not).
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: _bruce_ on October 24, 2017, 03:29:33 PM
He has not collected data. Well, he may have collected data, but not data that would be considered reliable or valid in the scientific community. Vince has probably collected data on himself, which is obviously, not a good method of data collection. I doubt that Vince has collected objective data.

I mean, I can collect data on myself and state that I gained 3" of  muscles based on my own hypothesis.  ::) ::) Further, collecting data is no easy task. Most people who want to collect solid data are PhD's who have been extensively trained in data collection. You just don't wake up one morning and decide that you're an expert on data collection, in the same way that you don't wake up one day and believe that you're an astrophysicist (when youre not).

In a strongly simplified way anybody with a sound mind, patience and some "skills" can be a spare-time scientist... it's not about doing a professional grade study but breaking some new ground.
Vince could be up to something that may be interesting enough to forge a real scientific study on. He also could just be a fool with a pipe dream... time will tell.
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: Vince B on October 24, 2017, 03:41:55 PM
He has not collected data. Well, he may have collected data, but not data that would be considered reliable or valid in the scientific community. Vince has probably collected data on himself, which is obviously, not a good method of data collection. I doubt that Vince has collected objective data.

I mean, I can collect data on myself and state that I gained 3" of  muscles based on my own hypothesis.  ::) ::) Further, collecting data is no easy task. Most people who want to collect solid data are PhD's who have been extensively trained in data collection. You just don't wake up one morning and decide that you're an expert on data collection, in the same way that you don't wake up one day and believe that you're an astrophysicist (when youre not).

Let us forget about the so-called scientific community because they aren't interested in 19 inch muscular arms.

The Getbig community is typical of guys who lift weights. They already have belief systems that contain many errors and not much truth. They literally would not recognize the truth if it was presented to them.

The other problem which is not easy to overcome is going from an idea to the application of that method. I can post what to do but goodness me Getbiggers have no clue what to do. Do I have to spoon feed brilliant minds like Chaos? Seems so.

Well, I am not interested in being their personal trainer. Intelligent people can take an idea and apply it. I have even explained which particular exercises are effective. It is all there.

Then we have pseudo-intellects like that SF dick who won't try something because he doesn't have the vocabulary. Well, I don't have the time to do Hypertrophy 101.

The only other person on Getbig who has presented a method for hypertrophy is Pellius. It turns out that he does a method almost identical to mine but we disagree on frequency. 3 or 4 days seems to be ideal.

Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: SF1900 on October 24, 2017, 03:46:01 PM
In a strongly simplified way anybody with a sound mind, patience and some "skills" can be a spare-time scientist... it's not about doing a professional grade study but breaking some new ground.
Vince could be up to something that may be interesting enough to forge a real scientific study on. He also could just be a fool with a pipe dream... time will tell.


Well, yes and no.

If you want to produce mediocre results with poor methodology and statistics, then sure, anyone can produce data; however, it will likely be replete with threats to internal and external validity, thereby making the research pretty pointless. No good scientist will take poor methodology and statistics seriously.

But, if you want to produce research with sound methodology and statistics, that takes skills and is often connected to years of studying.

It's a pipe dream. He wrote a hypertrophy article for Ironman in 2001. 16 years later and still nothing. What else do you think he has been working on in 16 years?  ??? ??? If it has not already happened, it most likely will not happen. Time will tell? I wonder where the last 16 years went.
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: SF1900 on October 24, 2017, 03:49:45 PM
Let us forget about the so-called scientific community because they aren't interested in 19 inch muscular arms.

The Getbig community is typical of guys who lift weights. They already have belief systems that contain many errors and not much truth. They literally would not recognize the truth if it was presented to them.

The other problem which is not easy to overcome is going from an idea to the application of that method. I can post what to do but goodness me Getbiggers have no clue what to do. Do I have to spoon feed brilliant minds like Chaos? Seems so.

Well, I am not interested in being their personal trainer. Intelligent people can take an idea and apply it. I have even explained which particular exercises are effective. It is all there.

Then we have pseudo-intellects like that SF dick who won't try something because he doesn't have the vocabulary. Well, I don't have the time to do Hypertrophy 101.

The only other person on Getbig who has presented a method for hypertrophy is Pellius. It turns out that he does a method almost identical to mine but we disagree on frequency. 3 or 4 days seems to be ideal.



I've already stated 100 times that, even if the scientific community does not care about 19" arms, if you presented a sound theory with evidence, scientists would care. Scientists would generalize your results to other populations, despite it not being the same exact population. Yet, you keep harping on and using that as an excuse. The scientific community does not care about your hypertrophy hypothesis because you have not provided any data. Its quite simple. And, when pressed to present evidence, you continue to display the same logical fallacies over and over and over again. This is why you have not written any reputable papers or have been published in any peer-reviewed journals.

Anyone can explain anything. Big whoop. Your hypothesis means absolutely nothing.
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: calfzilla on October 24, 2017, 03:52:18 PM
Well, yes and no.

If you want to produce mediocre results with poor methodology and statistics, then sure, anyone can produce data; however, it will likely be replete with threats to internal and external validity, thereby making the research pretty pointless. No good scientist will take poor methodology and statistics seriously.

But, if you want to produce research with sound methodology and statistics, that takes skills and is often connected to years of studying.

It's a pipe dream. He wrote a hypertrophy article for Ironman in 2001. 16 years later and still nothing. What else do you think he has been working on in 16 years?  ??? ??? If it has not already happened, it most likely will not happen. Time will tell? I wonder where the last 16 years went.

If this hypothesis worked it would be shared throughout the bodybuilding community and Vince B would be famous in the fitness industry for his system that is able to achieve replicated results among numerous weight training individuals.
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: SF1900 on October 24, 2017, 04:03:18 PM
If this hypothesis worked it would be shared throughout the bodybuilding community and Vince B would be famous in the fitness industry for his system that is able to achieve replicated results among numerous weight training individuals.

Exactly. But it has not. Sooooooo.............
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: Vince B on October 24, 2017, 04:15:19 PM
I like doing thought experiments. Always fun and occasionally productive.

Okay, here is one. Suppose I am going to present a talk on making your muscles bigger. The assembled group of frustrated young bodybuilders really want to know what to do.

Not one of these guys has paid his dues and got significant results. Lifting weights isn't rocket science I am told. Well, how come these guys can't get big and do it quickly?

I look at the empty faces and wonder if they are even capable of comprehending then applying something new. I shake my head because I know I am wasting my time.

Bodybuilders as a group spend so much time in the gym that they are usually rather socially retarded. Most have no clue how to get a girlfriend.

So I ask the group if they would rather learn about how to be successful with women instead of getting bigger arms. To a man they elect Dating 101!

Yes, someone who has been around for many times their lifetime should surely know a thing or two about woman. Not everything because no one knows that much.

I tell them that it is more difficult to get rid of women than to get them. They cannot accept that statement. How is that possible?

How it goes is something like this. First of all you have to understand something well. When you have paid your dues through trial and error you know what works and what doesn't work.

The knowledge allows you to control people. You can even make them fall in love with you. Now I don't advocate that anyone do this in a reckless fashion because there is no need to hurt anyone.

But that is the truth. There is a formula. Those who have this knowledge can make selected women do exactly that. Naturally the selected women have to show an interest in the first place.

Okay, so let's get back to Bodybuilding 100. We lift weights in a progressive fashion and exert ourselves so how come we aren't growing? Why do people stay on plateaus? Why are there lonely people out there?

No one should be lonely in our society but countless thousands are. Countless thousands of people who lift weighs are staying the same.

How on earth can anyone save either group? The hapless Getbiggers who have neither large muscles or dates are a particularly wretched assembly. No one can help them.

Why is that? Well, they have absorbed so much crap on the internet and in gyms that they are now unable to accept anything new.

What does DJ believe from his experience lifting weights? He needs specific anabolic agents to make any gains but is unable to develop any significant size.

Would he recognize the truth if he saw it? He has no hope in hell of doing so. He defaults to his broscience. He concludes he hasn't got the genetics so he needs drugs.

How does DJ do on the dating scene? He posted that he sent out 100 messages to attractive women on Tinder and didn't receive even one reply. Light a candle for this bloke next time you are in a church!

Dating, bodybuilding, etc., same thing. Not so easy to be successful unless you have the right formula. Would you know it if you saw it? Sadly, NO.

So what is the point of my presenting anything here to the Flotsam? They don't have the appropriate vocabulary to comprehend basic physiology or psychology. No one can help them.
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: SF1900 on October 24, 2017, 04:16:37 PM
I like doing thought experiments. Always fun and occasionally productive.

Okay, here is one. Suppose I am going to present a talk on making your muscles bigger. The assembled group of frustrated young bodybuilders really want to know what to do.

Not one of these guys has paid his dues and got significant results. Lifting weights isn't rocket science I am told. Well, how come these guys can't get big and do it quickly?

I look at the empty faces and wonder if they are even capable of comprehending then applying something new. I shake my head because I know I am wasting my time.

Bodybuilders as a group spend so much time in the gym that they are usually rather socially retarded. Most have no clue how to get a girlfriend.

So I ask the group if they would rather learn about how to be successful with women instead of getting bigger arms. To a man they elect Dating 101!

Yes, someone who has been around for many times their lifetime should surely know a thing or two about woman. Not everything because no one knows that much.

I tell them that it is more difficult to get rid of women than to get them. They cannot accept that statement. How is that possible?

How it goes is something like this. First of all you have to understand something well. When you have paid your dues through trial and error you know what works and what doesn't work.

The knowledge allows you to control people. You can even make them fall in love with you. Now I don't advocate that anyone do this in a reckless fashion because there is no need to hurt anyone.

But that is the truth. There is a formula. Those who have this knowledge can make selected women do exactly that. Naturally the selected women have to show an interest in the first place.

Okay, so let's get back to Bodybuilding 100. We lift weights in a progressive fashion and exert ourselves so how come we aren't growing? Why do people stay on plateaus? Why are there lonely people out there?

No one should be lonely in our society but countless thousands are. Countless thousands of people who lift weighs are staying the same.

How on earth can anyone save either group? The hapless Getbiggers who have neither large muscles or dates are a particularly wretched assembly. No one can help them.

Why is that? Well, they have absorbed so much crap on the internet and in gyms that they are now unable to accept anything new.

What does DJ believe from his experience lifting weights? He needs specific anabolic agents to make any gains but is unable to develop any significant size.

Would he recognize the truth if he saw it? He has no hope in hell of doing so. He defaults to his broscience. He concludes he hasn't got the genetics so he needs drugs.

How does DJ do on the dating scene? He posted that he sent out 100 messages to attractive women on Tinder and didn't receive even one reply. Light a candle for this bloke next time you are in a church!

Dating, bodybuilding, etc., same thing. Not so easy to be successful unless you have the right formula. Would you know it if you saw it? Sadly, NO.

So what is the point of my presenting anything here to the Flotsam? They don't have the appropriate vocabulary to comprehend basic physiology or psychology. No one can help them.

I didn't read this overly long statement because it means nothing without solid evidence from randomized control trials.

Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: Vince B on October 24, 2017, 04:22:54 PM
I didn't read this overly long statement because it means nothing without solid evidence from randomized control trials.

Hope this helps.

QED!
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: SF1900 on October 24, 2017, 04:24:36 PM
QED!

Not without evidence. You have nothing. This is why your hypothesis is not breaking any new grounds in the scientific community. This is all in your head. Nothing more.
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: _bruce_ on October 24, 2017, 04:32:07 PM
Come on Vince, I have read through your wall of text and it's just hot air.

Spill the beans.
I still believe in you but this is borderline evasive mockery.
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: Vince B on October 24, 2017, 04:32:32 PM
Not without evidence. You have nothing. This is why your hypothesis is not breaking any new grounds in the scientific community. This is all in your head. Nothing more.

You don't know it but you are a funny guy. A joke, really. Clinging to your arsenal of put downs.

Let me ask you two questions. Who have you beaten in bodybuilding competitions? The second question I already know the answer to.
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: SF1900 on October 24, 2017, 04:33:51 PM
You don't know it but you are a funny guy. A joke, really. Clinging to your arsenal of put downs.

Let me ask you two questions. Who have you beaten in bodybuilding competitions? The second question I already know the answer to.

I don't need to have beaten anyone in bodybuilding. All I have to do is reject your hypothesis.

Further, we all know you rigged the contest by picking your own judges haha lol. I mean, seriously, who picks their own judges, then is satisfied when they win? Talk about cheating.
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: Vince B on October 24, 2017, 04:34:38 PM
Come on Vince, I have read through your wall of text and it's just hot air.

Spill the beans.
I still believe in you but this is borderline evasive mockery.

I don't post hot air. You see, if you post that after all the trouble I went to then clearly you don't have the capacity to absorb anything close to Hypertrophy 200.
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: SF1900 on October 24, 2017, 04:36:05 PM
Come on Vince, I have read through your wall of text and it's just hot air.

Spill the beans.
I still believe in you but this is borderline evasive mockery.

In the scientific community, it is "hot air" until the person making the claim presents evidence.
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: Vince B on October 24, 2017, 04:36:40 PM
I don't need to have beaten anyone in bodybuilding. All I have to do is reject your hypothesis.

Further, we all know you rigged the contest by picking your own judges haha lol. I mean, seriously, who picks their own judges, then is satisfied when they win? Talk about cheating.

Sounds like a massive case of Sour Grapes. What a sad person you are. Online most of the day but not enjoying life or getting results.

Go to university instead of wasting time on the internet.
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: Vince B on October 24, 2017, 04:39:17 PM
In the scientific community, it is "hot air" until the person making the claim presents evidence.

Surely Getbig is not the scientific community. I have no obligation to present anything to them.

Why on earth would I help these nasty people?

If someone approaches me who has respect and the capacity to learn then we might proceed. Otherwise, you guys can find your own methods. Good luck.
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: SF1900 on October 24, 2017, 04:39:44 PM
Sounds like a massive case of Sour Grapes. What a sad person you are. Online most of the day but not enjoying life or getting results.

Go to university instead of wasting time on the internet.

lol. Yet, you do not deny picking your own judges. Did you know you were going to win? lol. I enjoy life. With the advent of technology, one can post from anywhere.

You have no idea if I attended university. And, if I did attend university and took a research methodology course, I know for a fact that professors who publish in peer-reviewed journals present evidence to support their hypotheses. Professors would not allow any student to make a claim without supporting evidence, especially one that makes a claim about human functioning.

Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: SF1900 on October 24, 2017, 04:41:43 PM
Surely Getbig is not the scientific community. I have no obligation to present anything to them.

Why on earth would I help these nasty people?

If someone approaches me who has respect and the capacity to learn then we might proceed. Otherwise, you guys can find your own methods. Good luck.

If you do not have evidence to present, then you cannot call your hypothesis a "theory." Unacceptable in the scientific community.

Further, you have presented your hypothesis elsewhere (Iron Mag and other forums). No matter where you present it, it still lacks solid evidence. You have not provided evidence to your hypothesis through any medium (Iron Mag, getbig, or any other forum).

When pressed, you run away because you know your hypothesis is all fluff.
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: NelsonMuntz on October 24, 2017, 04:44:52 PM
I like doing thought experiments. Always fun and occasionally productive.

Okay, here is one. Suppose I am going to present a talk on making your muscles bigger. The assembled group of frustrated young bodybuilders really want to know what to do.

Not one of these guys has paid his dues and got significant results. Lifting weights isn't rocket science I am told. Well, how come these guys can't get big and do it quickly?

I look at the empty faces and wonder if they are even capable of comprehending then applying something new. I shake my head because I know I am wasting my time.

Bodybuilders as a group spend so much time in the gym that they are usually rather socially retarded. Most have no clue how to get a girlfriend.

So I ask the group if they would rather learn about how to be successful with women instead of getting bigger arms. To a man they elect Dating 101!

Yes, someone who has been around for many times their lifetime should surely know a thing or two about woman. Not everything because no one knows that much.

I tell them that it is more difficult to get rid of women than to get them. They cannot accept that statement. How is that possible?

How it goes is something like this. First of all you have to understand something well. When you have paid your dues through trial and error you know what works and what doesn't work.

The knowledge allows you to control people. You can even make them fall in love with you. Now I don't advocate that anyone do this in a reckless fashion because there is no need to hurt anyone.

But that is the truth. There is a formula. Those who have this knowledge can make selected women do exactly that. Naturally the selected women have to show an interest in the first place.

Okay, so let's get back to Bodybuilding 100. We lift weights in a progressive fashion and exert ourselves so how come we aren't growing? Why do people stay on plateaus? Why are there lonely people out there?

No one should be lonely in our society but countless thousands are. Countless thousands of people who lift weighs are staying the same.

How on earth can anyone save either group? The hapless Getbiggers who have neither large muscles or dates are a particularly wretched assembly. No one can help them.

Why is that? Well, they have absorbed so much crap on the internet and in gyms that they are now unable to accept anything new.

What does DJ believe from his experience lifting weights? He needs specific anabolic agents to make any gains but is unable to develop any significant size.

Would he recognize the truth if he saw it? He has no hope in hell of doing so. He defaults to his broscience. He concludes he hasn't got the genetics so he needs drugs.

How does DJ do on the dating scene? He posted that he sent out 100 messages to attractive women on Tinder and didn't receive even one reply. Light a candle for this bloke next time you are in a church!

Dating, bodybuilding, etc., same thing. Not so easy to be successful unless you have the right formula. Would you know it if you saw it? Sadly, NO.

So what is the point of my presenting anything here to the Flotsam? They don't have the appropriate vocabulary to comprehend basic physiology or psychology. No one can help them.

instead of babbling how everyone on here is stupid except you which is total bullsjit and a farce, put your money where your motuh is and post what I suggested

you talk about your theory and have so for years yet not once have you tested it on anyone here to prove yourself

even you doing it on yourself has not shown anything because you train arms for a couple of weeks, get bored/injured/lazy from from working out once a week, then you give up, then you come back on months later, make yet again another claim  for the ypteenth time how you are going to get your arms up to 18 inches so you repeat the action I just stated in this paragraph

you are as bad as arthur jones who blabbed about people only needing 20-30 minutes of brief hard training yet he was too fucking lazy to do it himself the last couple of decades of his life, same deal with Mentzer

everyone has these "theories" yet none of them even train hard if at all and tend to look like my asshole before I wioed after taking a watery dump
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: Vince B on October 24, 2017, 04:49:24 PM
instead of babbling how everyone on here is stupid except you which is total bullsjit and a farce, put your money where your motuh is and post what I suggested

you talk about your theory and have so for years yet not once have you tested it on anyone here to prove yourself

even you doing it on yourself has not shown anything because you train arms for a couple of weeks, get bored/injured/lazy from from working out once a week, then you give up, then you come back on months later, make yet again another claim  for the ypteenth time how you are going to get your arms up to 18 inches so you repeat the action I just stated in this paragraph

you are as bad as arthur jones who blabbed about people only needing 20-30 minutes of brief hard training yet he was too fucking lazy to do it himself the last couple of decades of his life, same deal with Mentzer

everyone has these "theories" yet none of them even train hard if at all and tend to look like my asshole before I wioed after taking a watery dump

Nice try 'Nelson'. I dare say I look better than either Mike or Arthur when they were old. Oops, Mike never made it to 50. I do as I preach. Things going along fine. Arms getting larger and stronger. Even at my age.

I will show 'em. Just wait and see.
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: SF1900 on October 24, 2017, 04:52:10 PM
Yet, still no evidence.
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: Vince B on October 24, 2017, 05:00:07 PM
Ok, Getbiggers, watch this. Lee knows what to do.

Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on October 24, 2017, 05:05:40 PM
Vince, present your theory in a few choice bulletpoints.  I have reached a plateau in my arm hypertrophy and I'm looking for a "plateau buster" .. this theory of yours might be the ticket
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: SF1900 on October 24, 2017, 05:12:15 PM
Vince, present your theory in a few choice bulletpoints.  I have reached a plateau in my arm hypertrophy and I'm looking for a "plateau buster" .. this theory of yours might be the ticket

It's not a "theory." Its a hypothesis. Lets not do injustice to the scientific community by labeling this a "theory." Just sayin'.

Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: Vince B on October 24, 2017, 05:20:49 PM
It's not a "theory." Its a hypothesis. Lets not do injustice to the scientific community by labeling this a "theory." Just sayin'.



You display an anal retentive personality!

I am way beyond any hypothesis. Hope this helps.

Arms almost 18 inches now. Feels good, too. I'll show 'em Getbiggers!
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: SF1900 on October 24, 2017, 05:29:56 PM
You display an anal retentive personality!

I am way beyond any hypothesis. Hope this helps.

Arms almost 18 inches now. Feels good, too. I'll show 'em Getbiggers!

No, you aren't. A "theory" becomes a theory when it has substantial evidence to back its claim.

You do not have that.

It's still a "hypothesis." Nothing more. Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: AusBB on October 24, 2017, 05:31:14 PM
I have read this thread in total and have come to the following conclusion.

Vince is full of shit. He's like the old bloke in the corner who is telling you he's got the stock market figured out and can make you millions. But when you get closer to here his theory you realise that all he's managed to do is shit himself.

At this point my reaction is the same. Just walk away, shake your head and think "sucks to get old and senile".
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: SF1900 on October 24, 2017, 05:39:33 PM
I have read this thread in total and have come to the following conclusion.

Vince is full of shit. He's like the old bloke in the corner who is telling you he's got the stock market figured out and can make you millions. But when you get closer to here his theory you realise that all he's managed to do is shit himself.

At this point my reaction is the same. Just walk away, shake your head and think "sucks to get old and senile".

Thank you.
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: Vince B on October 24, 2017, 05:45:53 PM
I have read this thread in total and have come to the following conclusion.

Vince is full of shit. He's like the old bloke in the corner who is telling you he's got the stock market figured out and can make you millions. But when you get closer to here his theory you realise that all he's managed to do is shit himself.

At this point my reaction is the same. Just walk away, shake your head and think "sucks to get old and senile".

LOL and that coming from an Aussie BB. Everyone is an expert on Getbig. Why on earth do they need any advices?
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: calfzilla on October 24, 2017, 06:00:06 PM
You display an anal retentive personality!

I am way beyond any hypothesis. Hope this helps.

Arms almost 18 inches now. Feels good, too. I'll show 'em Getbiggers!

My arms have been almost 18 inches for years. They are stuck. Why don't you post your hypertrophy hypothesis and I will be a case study to see if it works. If it does I will sing your praises.

I'm sure mr sf1900 would be willing to give your hypothesis a try as well.
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: SF1900 on October 24, 2017, 06:15:04 PM
My arms have been almost 18 inches for years. They are stuck. Why don't you post your hypertrophy hypothesis and I will be a case study to see if it works. If it does I will sing your praises.

I'm sure mr sf1900 would be willing to give your hypothesis a try as well.

Basile has yet to present anything worthwhile of a hypothesis.
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: calfzilla on October 24, 2017, 06:20:53 PM
Basile has yet to present anything worthwhile of a hypothesis.

So he has had this hypothesis for 16 years and has not shared it with anyone in the bodybuilding community  ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: NelsonMuntz on October 24, 2017, 06:23:01 PM
LOL and that coming from an Aussie BB. Everyone is an expert on Getbig. Why on earth do they need any advices?

well vinece you had a great build back in the day and you were on dbol, there are lots of guys here who used dbol, other stuff and some who did not even use gear who look as good or in alot of cases better than you
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don't get me wrong I think of you as an expert on the bodybuilding game, however there are alot of gym rats, natty and enhanced that know their shit on here, some more than you.

that is what annoys me with you, in that you discount others intelligence. SF1900 is not that guy in the pics being posted, some dummies like yourself(and even me) fell for that, but he is one of the more intelligent people here, and probably just as smart or smarter than you.

people would take you seriously if you stopped acting like a cock towards anyone who asks you a question or challenges you.

I challenged you to post a sample routine using a weekly split. Instead of putting yourself out there so people can take a look at it, or even try it you thought I had some ulterior motive???

that is exactly why your theory/hypothesis gets dismissed. Because you are too vague and don't get to the point.

I might have even tried your stuff as an experiment once I got over my latest gym setback(20th this year lol).

but you are too afriad to reveal like its worth billions or something. Its working out not rocket science.

Perhaps giving of yourself and leaving a legacy should be in order, but that goes rigt over your head.
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: chaos on October 24, 2017, 06:52:50 PM
The only thing that needs to be spoon fed around here is old man Vince and his undersized arms.
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: Vince B on October 24, 2017, 06:57:06 PM
well vinece you had a great build back in the day and you were on dbol, there are lots of guys here who used dbol, other stuff and some who did not even use gear who look as good or in alot of cases better than you
\
don't get me wrong I think of you as an expert on the bodybuilding game, however there are alot of gym rats, natty and enhanced that know their shit on here, some more than you.

that is what annoys me with you, in that you discount others intelligence. SF1900 is not that guy in the pics being posted, some dummies like yourself(and even me) fell for that, but he is one of the more intelligent people here, and probably just as smart or smarter than you.

people would take you seriously if you stopped acting like a cock towards anyone who asks you a question or challenges you.

I challenged you to post a sample routine using a weekly split. Instead of putting yourself out there so people can take a look at it, or even try it you thought I had some ulterior motive???

that is exactly why your theory/hypothesis gets dismissed. Because you are too vague and don't get to the point.

I might have even tried your stuff as an experiment once I got over my latest gym setback(20th this year lol).

but you are too afriad to reveal like its worth billions or something. Its working out not rocket science.

Perhaps giving of yourself and leaving a legacy should be in order, but that goes rigt over your head.

Leaving a legacy on Getbig! I don't even get blue stars here. Whatever are you talking about?

The key to finding a short cut in hypertrophy is to actually think for a change. Ask yourself this question. Why do muscles get sore after doing something hard or unusual?

If you know that and the physiological processes taking place re growth then you will be able to forge ahead. If you require a manual then I won't do that.

Not here on Getbig where I have little or no credibility.
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: Vince B on October 24, 2017, 06:59:19 PM
The only thing that needs to be spoon fed around here is old man Vince and his undersized arms.

Thanks, Chaos. This coming from a moderator on a forum called Getbig.

The reality is that I have turned back the clock and today my arms are as big as they ever were in the past.

I won't post a photo until they are significantly larger. Won't be long now.  ::)
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: SF1900 on October 24, 2017, 07:07:03 PM
well vinece you had a great build back in the day and you were on dbol, there are lots of guys here who used dbol, other stuff and some who did not even use gear who look as good or in alot of cases better than you
\
don't get me wrong I think of you as an expert on the bodybuilding game, however there are alot of gym rats, natty and enhanced that know their shit on here, some more than you.

that is what annoys me with you, in that you discount others intelligence. SF1900 is not that guy in the pics being posted, some dummies like yourself(and even me) fell for that, but he is one of the more intelligent people here, and probably just as smart or smarter than you.

people would take you seriously if you stopped acting like a cock towards anyone who asks you a question or challenges you.

I challenged you to post a sample routine using a weekly split. Instead of putting yourself out there so people can take a look at it, or even try it you thought I had some ulterior motive???

that is exactly why your theory/hypothesis gets dismissed. Because you are too vague and don't get to the point.

I might have even tried your stuff as an experiment once I got over my latest gym setback(20th this year lol).

but you are too afriad to reveal like its worth billions or something. Its working out not rocket science.

Perhaps giving of yourself and leaving a legacy should be in order, but that goes rigt over your head.

Yes, Walter Sobchak started to call me asian and told everyone I was fat. Then DJ181 and ESFITNESS started to go along with it; DJ181 then posted pictures that a gimmick started to use back in the day (Jon Harridan). Then, of course, many people fell for it. I was just playing along because it was fun to see the idiots scramble and post my "pictures." I actually found it quite amusing. However, I have met a few getbiggers and other getbiggers have seen my pictures.
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: SF1900 on October 24, 2017, 07:10:42 PM
Leaving a legacy on Getbig! I don't even get blue stars here. Whatever are you talking about?

The key to finding a short cut in hypertrophy is to actually think for a change. Ask yourself this question. Why do muscles get sore after doing something hard or unusual?

If you know that and the physiological processes taking place re growth then you will be able to forge ahead. If you require a manual then I won't do that.

Not here on Getbig where I have little or no credibility.

You have no credibility because you continue to espouse a "theory" without providing sufficient evidence to back up your claims.

Do you know how people gain credibility? They gain credibility by producing consistent, repeatable, and verified results. That is the difference between you and a researcher at a major university.

Really, it's not too difficult. I am willing to accept any idea that is supported by solid evidence. However, you have produced bupkis. Your own subjective experience does not warrant anything more than a, "Where is the objective evidence?"
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: Vince B on October 24, 2017, 07:18:08 PM
Yes, Walter Sobchak started to call me asian and told everyone I was fat. Then DJ181 and ESFITNESS started to go along with it; DJ181 then posted pictures that a gimmick started to use back in the day (Jon Harridan). Then, of course, many people fell for it. I was just playing along because it was fun to see the idiots scramble and post my "pictures." I actually found it quite amusing. However, I have met a few getbiggers and other getbiggers have seen my pictures.

Like the thread with gh15 and ES Fitness post a photo and put an end to the crap. Also, state what university qualifications you have and where you attended.
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: SF1900 on October 24, 2017, 07:22:00 PM
Like the thread with gh15 and ES Fitness post a photo and put an end to the crap. Also, state what university qualifications you have and where you attended.

I don't need to post a photo. I don't care that people think it's me. I find it amusing.

I have ALREADY STATED, that I have ZERO qualifications in the area of fitness, nutrition, training, physiology, or anatomy, etc. I know how to lift with good form and eat right. Nothing more, nothing less. But, for what it's worth, all of my degrees are from accredited colleges/universities in the US.

Either way, I don't need a degree to know that you still have failed to produce evidence to support your hypothesis.
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: Vince B on October 24, 2017, 07:28:24 PM
I don't need to post a photo. I don't care that people think it's me. I find it amusing.

I have ALREADY STATED, that I have ZERO qualifications in the area of fitness, nutrition, training, physiology, or anatomy, etc. I know how to lift with good form and eat right. Nothing more, nothing less. But, for what it's worth, all of my degrees are from accredited colleges/universities in the US.

Either way, I don't need a degree to know that you still have failed to produce evidence to support your hypothesis.

Since when are you the standard by which anything is accepted around here?

Show some respect for someone who has achieved something just about nobody said was possible.

You and your demand for peer reviewed publications. Since when are you my peer? You admitted you don't have the qualifications so stop being a bloody nuisance.
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: SF1900 on October 24, 2017, 07:33:46 PM
Since when are you the standard by which anything is accepted around here?

Show some respect for someone who has achieved something just about nobody said was possible.

You and your demand for peer reviewed publications. Since when are you my peer? You admitted you don't have the qualifications so stop being a bloody nuisance.

I am not the standard; however, LOTS of other people, who are more experienced than me, have called you out. Not just me.

I don't have to show respect for someone who lacks the integrity to present evidence.

I never said I was your peer, nor did I say I could accurately assess your results. However, if you presented any evidence to support your hypothesis, it could always be 1) reviewed by someone on here with more qualifications than me and 2) sent to a researcher to review the results.

As previously stated, many people have called you out to present evidence. Yet, you will not do so. Further, you have not presented your evidence to the larger scientific community.

When all is said and done, you simply do not have evidence to present, either to me, someone else who is more qualified, or the larger scientific community.
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: Vince B on October 24, 2017, 07:51:02 PM
I am not the standard; however, LOTS of other people, who are more experienced than me, have called you out. Not just me.

I don't have to show respect for someone who lacks the integrity to present evidence.

I never said I was your peer, nor did I say I could accurately assess your results. However, if you presented any evidence to support your hypothesis, it could always be 1) reviewed by someone on here with more qualifications than me and 2) sent to a researcher to review the results.

As previously stated, many people have called you out to present evidence. Yet, you will not do so. Further, you have not presented your evidence to the larger scientific community.

When all is said and done, you simply do not have evidence to present, either to me, someone else who is more qualified, or the larger scientific community.

You really are a persistent prick. I am not doing this for you, Getbig, or science. I am doing it for myself. End of story.
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: SF1900 on October 24, 2017, 07:53:01 PM
You really are a persistent prick. I am not doing this for you, Getbig, or science. I am doing it for myself. End of story.

If you're doing it for yourself and only yourself, why do you keep insisting on discussing your hypothesis of hypertrophy on getbig? Further, if you're only doing it for yourself, why did you post your hypothesis in Ironmag for others to read?  If you're not doing it for getbig or Ironmag, why continue to discuss your hypothesis in a public forum? As long as you continue to post about it, I will continue to challenge your hypothesis.
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Post by: Vince B on October 24, 2017, 08:08:52 PM
If you're doing it for yourself and only yourself, why do you keep insisting on discussing your hypothesis of hypertrophy on getbig? Further, if you're only doing it for yourself, why did you post your hypothesis in Ironmag for others to read?  If you're not doing it for getbig or Ironmag, why continue to discuss your hypothesis in a public forum? As long as you continue to post about it, I will continue to challenge your hypothesis.

Isn't it obvious that I am NOT discussing my method here? I guess not. You are now a troll. Congratulations.

Why this and why that. For goodness sake get a life and achieve something yourself.

I will discuss matters with true experts not internet heros.
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Post by: calfzilla on October 24, 2017, 08:10:45 PM
Hey guys, I have a hypertrophy hypothesis for calves but I'm not telling what it is. Wow that was easy.
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Post by: SF1900 on October 24, 2017, 08:20:20 PM
Isn't it obvious that I am NOT discussing my method here? I guess not. You are now a troll. Congratulations.

Why this and why that. For goodness sake get a life and achieve something yourself.

I will discuss matters with true experts not internet heros.

Oh boy, you always discuss your hypertophy hypothesis here.  ::) ::)
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Post by: chaos on October 24, 2017, 08:21:52 PM
Thanks, Chaos. This coming from a moderator on a forum called Getbig.

The reality is that I have turned back the clock and today my arms are as big as they ever were in the past.

I won't post a photo until they are significantly larger. Won't be long now.  ::)

Like the thread with gh15 and ES Fitness post a photo and put an end to the crap. Also, state what university qualifications you have and where you attended.
The hypocrisy is outstanding.
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Post by: SF1900 on October 24, 2017, 08:24:30 PM
The hypocrisy is outstanding.

Good catch!!  ;D ;D
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Post by: dj181 on October 24, 2017, 08:27:20 PM
hey dense

saw your longass post bout me so i will cover it point by point

got nothing better to do ans im bored to tears so this should make for at least some excitment in this boring ass life of mine

and yes, that fat taody dork looking asain is in fact sucksfags1900times FACT
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Post by: SF1900 on October 24, 2017, 08:37:35 PM
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Post by: dj181 on October 24, 2017, 08:42:13 PM
dense said...

What does DJ believe from his experience lifting weights? He needs specific anabolic agents to make any gains but is unable to develop any significant size.

Would he recognize the truth if he saw it? He has no hope in hell of doing so. He defaults to his broscience. He concludes he hasn't got the genetics so he needs drugs.

i say...

did natty training for years and the biggest my arms got LEAN was 14 1/3 inch

on gear my biggest arm was 16 1/8  LEAN

so almost 2 real inches added

both mesuremnts were taken @ 6%

these pics were snapped last night after only 10 days on deca

p.s. Deca really kicks in after 6 weeks on so... ONLY THE START here DENSE
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Post by: dj181 on October 24, 2017, 08:44:07 PM
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try this pic fatty asain

damn it must really really suck to be asain lulz
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Post by: SF1900 on October 24, 2017, 08:46:05 PM
The hypocrisy is outstanding.

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Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: dj181 on October 24, 2017, 08:52:08 PM
dense said...

How does DJ do on the dating scene? He posted that he sent out 100 messages to attractive women on Tinder and didn't receive even one reply. Light a candle for this bloke next time you are in a church!

i say...

not messages likes, did the exact same thing with this pic and guess what...

he got 1 like(match) out of bout 300 lulz

here is what i wrote to smells-some-kunts covering this topic

^^^ thanls for the advice dude

the funny thing is i can make.frinds/contacts.very easily if i try, especially with dudes, with females not really

you see, if i convesr with a female.i want to pound her and i dont try and talk with females i dont have an interst in

my psychatrist ordered me to talm to peeps and he told me to treat them as i treat myslef and try not to use them lol

after awhile he saw that i meet and talk to fellas very essily so i told me only talk to females

heres the thing with females, i want them to give me what i want and when they dont i get furious, narcissitic rage its called lol

he ordered me to talk to females i have no sexual interest in and i said why would i? thats stupid lulz

not only must they give me what i want they also must treat me like im the greatest thing since sliced bread 😅

3 of the girls i dated or was friends with had eatoing disorders and 2 others got breast implants

the breast implants i never understood coz tits do nothing for me, i am crazy bout dat ass 😏

now that i see this i see that i act like a spoiled brat with females, no wonder i cant keep relationships with them going  :D

but all male."friendships" are very shallow and i know that i keep contact with them coz i can get them to do what i want and of they dont its adios and i cut contact with them

again... narcissism sucks dead donkey dicks and i am really pissed that they arnet any meds for it... FUCK

p.s. spermataste and wiggs are also HUGE NARRCISTS

but again, thank God i am not a sociopathic narccisst altjough it may have been better since it probably would have made me wealthy lol

btw bequeer get me a good set up for some prime hgh 😘
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Post by: chaos on October 24, 2017, 09:05:46 PM
SF1900 outed as Southern Filipino! :o
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Post by: Vince B on October 24, 2017, 09:28:28 PM
Just shows that you don't need huge arms to look okay.
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Post by: dj181 on October 24, 2017, 09:58:35 PM
you fellas are gonna love this one

just checked both tinder accts and my real one got some action the other with gay4shit got no play

anyways some fattie asked is she could meet my dog lulz

wtf? mr. Handsome gay4it gets nothing, i get nothing, but she gets something

fuck, fuck, FUCK!!!!!
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Post by: Vince B on October 24, 2017, 10:22:27 PM
you fellas are gonna love this one

just checked both tinder accts and my real one got some action the other with gay4shit got no play

anyways some fattie asked is she could meet my dog lulz

wtf? mr. Handsome gay4it gets nothing, i get nothing, but she gets something

fuck, fuck, FUCK!!!!!

Using a dog to get chicks is an old trick. Use whatever you can!
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Post by: dj181 on October 24, 2017, 10:25:20 PM
Using a dog to get chicks is an old trick. Use whatever you can!

dont really care about getting them, just bored AS FUCK

posted that up coz i thiught it was very funny that gay4shit and i got no response from females while my doggie did LULZ

me and gay4shit=0

Luba=1

😄😂
Title: Re: Quotes from an old schmoe I know....
Post by: Vince B on October 24, 2017, 11:15:31 PM
DJ, see, I use your handle unlike what you do.

Why persist with two profiles when you already know the result? Delete the one that isn't you. You can't front up even if someone wanted to meet you.

If both profiles are getting the same result = nil, then it must be what you write that sucks.

Post what you put on Tinder. Should be interesting. Or send a private message and I will give you my opinion.

Special guys like you need more than a typical profile.

Btw, Tinder is set up for women so is a guaranteed way to make you feel crappy about yourself when they don't show any interest. Wrong site for you.
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Post by: dj181 on October 24, 2017, 11:46:52 PM
I love the Scientific Process

ie. collecting and analizing details you see this comes from my GERMANIAC brain

GERMANS are a superior race and we have created many outstanding things

P.S. GERMANS developed and created steroids FACT

so you see this tinder thing is a reaserch exp

anyways i do much better when i approach in real.as my narcisitic charm shines through only problem is that i cant keep it up for long, so thats why i always have very short term relations

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Post by: Vince B on October 24, 2017, 11:49:48 PM
Have you checked this dating site out?

http://www.cupid.com/narcissist-dating.htm
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Post by: dj181 on October 24, 2017, 11:54:18 PM
Have you checked this dating site out?

http://www.cupid.com/narcissist-dating.htm

nice

was that your creation  ;)
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Post by: Vince B on October 24, 2017, 11:56:47 PM
nice

was that your creation  ;)

The internet is the key to just about everything you need. You have to ask the right questions in a search.
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Post by: dj181 on October 25, 2017, 12:04:21 AM
The internet is the key to just about everything you need. You have to ask the right questions in a search.

so.what do i type in to find your hyper theroy  ???

dont forget, you must be at least 8% for your arm measurement to mean d!ck

no one gives a fuck bout an 18 inch arm attached to a fella with 20% bf
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Post by: Top Poodle on October 25, 2017, 12:06:39 AM
I love the Scientific Process

ie. collecting and analizing details you see this comes from my GERMANIAC brain

GERMANS are a superior race and we have created many outstanding things

P.S. GERMANS developed and created steroids FACT

so you see this tinder thing is a reaserch exp

anyways i do much better when i approach in real.as my narcisitic charm shines through only problem is that i cant keep it up for long, so thats why i always have very short term relations



germans have also created the east german commie socialist bitch merkel

UH OH!!!!
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Post by: IRON CROSS on October 25, 2017, 03:15:36 AM
Well, yes and no.

If you want to produce mediocre results with poor methodology and statistics, then sure, anyone can produce data; however, it will likely be replete with threats to internal and external validity, thereby making the research pretty pointless. No good scientist will take poor methodology and statistics seriously.

But, if you want to produce research with sound methodology and statistics, that takes skills and is often connected to years of studying.

It's a pipe dream. He wrote a hypertrophy article for Ironman in 2001. 16 years later and still nothing. What else do you think he has been working on in 16 years?  ??? ??? If it has not already happened, it most likely will not happen. Time will tell? I wonder where the last 16 years went.

 :o  years ago & super zero of nothing  ;D
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Post by: IRON CROSS on October 25, 2017, 03:19:56 AM
Good catch!!  ;D ;D


 :D
 ;D
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Post by: IRON CROSS on October 25, 2017, 03:24:03 AM
I am not the standard; however, LOTS of other people, who are more experienced than me, have called you out. Not just me.

I don't have to show respect for someone who lacks the integrity to present evidence.

I never said I was your peer, nor did I say I could accurately assess your results. However, if you presented any evidence to support your hypothesis, it could always be 1) reviewed by someone on here with more qualifications than me and 2) sent to a researcher to review the results.

As previously stated, many people have called you out to present evidence. Yet, you will not do so. Further, you have not presented your evidence to the larger scientific community.

When all is said and done, you simply do not have evidence to present, either to me, someone else who is more qualified, or the larger scientific community.

Do U remember when Tony Doherty destroyed Basile with his comment.  ;D ;D
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Post by: AusBB on October 30, 2017, 09:36:13 PM
LOL and that coming from an Aussie BB. Everyone is an expert on Getbig. Why on earth do they need any advices?

So you have all the answers, we just arent worthy of hearing them.

Like I said, old and senile.

Keep clinging your little bullshit theory old man, I'm sure it's all you've got left.
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Post by: AusBB on October 30, 2017, 09:38:40 PM
Thanks, Chaos. This coming from a moderator on a forum called Getbig.

The reality is that I have turned back the clock and today my arms are as big as they ever were in the past.

I won't post a photo until they are significantly larger. Won't be long now.  ::)

I don't recommend anyone hold their breath waiting for the Vince Guns of Peace to show themselves. Lest you end up retarded and senile just like Vince.
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Post by: old-school-lifter on October 30, 2017, 10:01:31 PM
hey vince

whats your thoughts on asains?

this dude looks like King Jong Un's mongoloid half bro