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Check out the Mike Ashley interview, Part One on the Bodybuilding Legends Show. Mike talks about his decision to compete drug-free, winning the 1986 IFBB Mr. Universe title and competing in his first pro show in 1987 - http://bodybuildinglegendsshow.com/video-gallery/?vid=vidC8Egbw
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Just FYI, I really enjoy these interviews. Brings me back to my past.
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Me too. I think you're doing a great job getting all these old school guys to share their stories. Really enjoying it.
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Props John I do like your shows a lot but not going to watch this guy lie about being natural. I've seen him workout and talked to him about steroids. If I remember correctly he knew a lot about them and he said he did his thesis or some kind of college paper on steroids. He was very knowledgeable about them. This was one on one talk to me and a couple of my workout partners at an after party. He just seemed to have way to much of an interest in steroids for someone who wasn't interested in them.
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Props John I do like your shows a lot but not going to watch this guy lie about being natural. I've seen him workout and talked to him about steroids. If I remember correctly he knew a lot about them and he said he did his thesis or some kind of college paper on steroids. He was very knowledgeable about them. This was one on one talk to me and a couple of my workout partners at an after party. He just seemed to have way to much of an interest in steroids for someone who wasn't interested in them.
diet>>>>>gear, right? 😂 lulz
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Fake Natty!!
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Me too. I think you're doing a great job getting all these old school guys to share their stories. Really enjoying it.
Thank you very much, I love interviewing these guys that I used to read about in the magazines.
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Subscribed to your channel :)
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One of the most gifted naturals of all time.
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I seem to remember Mike offering $10,000 any place, any time if someone wanted to test him for PED's, if he failed the test. I don't know if anyone ever took him up on it.
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I seem to remember Mike offering $10,000 any place, any time if someone wanted to test him for PED's, if he failed the test. I don't know if anyone ever took him up on it.
That was Jean Paul Guilliame.
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That was Jean Paul Guilliame.
beatuiful beautiful physique
only flaw was his quads were too big for the rest of him, otherwise..... PERFECTION 8)
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I seem to remember Mike offering $10,000 any place, any time if someone wanted to test him for PED's, if he failed the test. I don't know if anyone ever took him up on it.
It was Mike, he mentions it in the interview
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beatuiful beautiful physique
only flaw was his quads were too big for the rest of him, otherwise..... PERFECTION 8)
You say that to anyone with bigger quads than you, most girls included
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Props John I do like your shows a lot but not going to watch this guy lie about being natural. I've seen him workout and talked to him about steroids. If I remember correctly he knew a lot about them and he said he did his thesis or some kind of college paper on steroids. He was very knowledgeable about them. This was one on one talk to me and a couple of my workout partners at an after party. He just seemed to have way to much of an interest in steroids for someone who wasn't interested in them.
props on getting the interviews as well but as far as 'natural' c'mon natural O. you've marketed that nicely though.
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Fake Natty!!
This .
back in the day The guy had a special treatment in Weider's publications for being a Natty , when he was using the exact same as the other pros .
WooSHHHH FRAUD
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Mike was given the 1991 Arnold Classic win after the real champion Shawn Ray was disqualified by the drug test.
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Mike was given the 1991 Arnold Classic win after the real champion Shawn Ray was disqualified by the drug test.
That was 1990 not 91, I kept that one😜
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Mike was given the 1991 Arnold Classic win after the real champion Shawn Ray was disqualified by the drug test.
"This just in: Bodybuilder fails drug test! Film at eleven."
Forgot about this, must've been a huge scandal. The outrage, can you imagine? The utter shock of it all? What was the damage, Shawn, I can't recall. Extensive rehab, public apology tour? Lifetime ban?
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Subscribed to your channel :)
Thank you, I appreciate that. More interviews to come!
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Guillaume was a small bb who thought he would blame his lightweight genetics on being natural. About as natural as Labrada, or Flea Labrada as Haney called him.
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That was 1990 not 91, I kept that one😜
Must have pissed you off though, knowing he's on what everyone else is on and gets given 1st because of stupid testing.
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Guillaume was a small bb who thought he would blame his lightweight genetics on being natural. About as natural as Labrada, or Flea Labrada as Haney called him.
Guillaume's muscle quality was great, great taper, detail, and conditioning. He is what bodybuilding is about, regardless of what he weighed.
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Guillaume was a small bb who thought he would blame his lightweight genetics on being natural. About as natural as Labrada, or Flea Labrada as Haney called him.
Was guillaume the same guy who pulled of the michael jackson lookalike? Might be getting it wrong and mix him up with someone else though.
Edit: i think that was Tony Pearson. Sometimes they look the same ;)
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Fake Natty!!
no shit ::)
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That was 1990 not 91, I kept that one😜
You placed 3:d in the drug tested 1990 O did'nt you Shawn? What was the standard routine for guys to not get detected for that show? You stopped 3 weeks out or what? Ofcourse you are natural but maybe you heard something from your peers :)
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Guillaume's muscle quality was great, great taper, detail, and conditioning. He is what bodybuilding is about, regardless of what he weighed.
yep yep
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You placed 3:d in the drug tested 1990 O did'nt you Shawn? What was the standard routine for guys to not get detected for that show? You stopped 3 weeks out or what? Ofcourse you are natural but maybe you heard something from your peers :)
it was announced well in advance it was being tested, it even had repercussions at the NOC earlier in the year , guys who had planned doing the O that year were slightly off their normal form, guys who didn't Dorian and Momo were spot on.
I guess a lot of the guys were tapering off as it was a full test, chances are they were clean on the day of the show.
Only two who really hit form condition wise were Benfatto and Christian..
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Props on Mike for having the knowledge and hability to fool the drug test.
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it was announced well in advance it was being tested, it even had repercussions at the NOC earlier in the year , guys who had planned doing the O that year were slightly off their normal form, guys who didn't Dorian and Momo were spot on.
I guess a lot of the guys were tapering off as it was a full test, chances are they were clean on the day of the show.
Only two who really hit form condition wise were Benfatto and Christian..
BENEFTTO/GUILLUME>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>everyone else
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Props on Mike for having the knowledge and hability to fool the drug test.
Does it not also demonstrate that some of them preferred the stuff like suspension that cleared quickly, and the guys who'd used things like deca had a harder time due to its latency and half-life?
And dusting off the memory cobwebs, I vaguely recall some stuff around at the time called 'Defend'... some sort of masking agent - wasn't there a whisper about Mike using that? Or am I confusing this with some Olympic 'controversy'? Probably... :P
(http://www.ilovebodybuilding.pl/images/mikechristian/3.jpg)
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Does it not also demonstrate that some of them preferred the stuff like suspension that cleared quickly, and the guys who'd used things like deca had a harder time due to its latency and half-life?
And dusting off the memory cobwebs, I vaguely recall some stuff around at the time called 'Defend'... some sort of masking agent - wasn't there a whisper about Mike using that? Or am I confusing this with some Olympic 'controversy'? Probably... :P
(http://www.ilovebodybuilding.pl/images/mikechristian/3.jpg)
I asked Mike about the Defend masking agent when I talked to him for my interview at the BodybuildingLegendsShow. com. Go to the 1:11:00 min mark - http://bodybuildinglegendsshow.com/video-gallery?vid=vidxWmyFt
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Wow this is crazy!!!!! Coming back to this thread after about 4days, and what do I see???? My revealing comments deleted!!!! ??? To summarize, I have seen first hand, as well as know from others first hand that Mike Ashley is a fucking fraud! Lier! He was 100 % juiced to the fucking gills!!! And I know for a fucking fact (I'm pissed ) Paul Jean Guillame was and is 100 % percent Natural. The details were in my original post after PJG's Pic. Now if you deleted the truth (RON) Which makes no sense. Fuck me! It otherwise has to be a Mod who knows I'm from San Diego, and knows WTF I'm talking about! Let's see how fast this ones deleted. (you are a fucking lier ASHLEY.) And you know it. * What bothers me is that I know Paul Jean was and is natural. Ashley was on more than guys now! Paul Jean just had so much class and was such a quiet reserved guy, that he would never say anything. (Paul Jean & Ashley were best friends then.) But I'm sick of it!!! >:( Sorry to expose the fraud after all these years.) Reminds me of the whole "Armstrong" Ordeal. As I mentioned in my post that somehow was deleted? Shawn Ray won easily! " Hey Ashley " Pharmacias Mexico, (The Circle???) Enough of your bullshit. I was there! Deleted in 3,2,1.
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beatuiful beautiful physique
only flaw was his quads were too big for the rest of him, otherwise..... PERFECTION 8)
Used to see him daily. I'd believe natural. Never had thatbthickness to him or impressive size.
Ashley? I remember being told a story about someone driving him to a shoot and he was cracking primo amps in the car and shooting delts on the way there. True or not I don't care.
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Wow this is crazy!!!!! Coming back to this thread after about 4days, and what do I see???? My revealing comments deleted!!!! ??? To summarize, I have seen first hand, as well as know from others first hand that Mike Ashley is a fucking fraud! Lier! He was 100 % juiced to the fucking gills!!! And I know for a fucking fact (I'm pissed ) Paul Jean Guillame was and is 100 % percent Natural. The details were in my original post after PJG's Pic. Now if you deleted the truth (RON) Which makes no sense. Fuck me! It otherwise has to be a Mod who knows I'm from San Diego, and knows WTF I'm talking about! Let's see how fast this ones deleted. (you are a fucking lier ASHLEY.) And you know it. * What bothers me is that I know Paul Jean was and is natural. Ashley was on more than guys now! Paul Jean just had so much class and was such a quiet reserved guy, that he would never say anything. (Paul Jean & Ashley were best friends then.) But I'm sick of it!!! >:( Sorry to expose the fraud after all these years.) Reminds me of the whole "Armstrong" Ordeal. As I mentioned in my post that somehow was delet? Shawn Ray won easily! " Hey Ashley " Pharmacias Mexico, (The Circle???) Enough of your bullshit. I was there! Deleted in 3,2,1.
Outted yourself
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Wow this is crazy!!!!! Coming back to this thread after about 4days, and what do I see???? My revealing comments deleted!!!! ??? To summarize, I have seen first hand, as well as know from others first hand that Mike Ashley is a fucking fraud! Lier! He was 100 % juiced to the fucking gills!!! And I know for a fucking fact (I'm pissed ) Paul Jean Guillame was and is 100 % percent Natural. The details were in my original post after PJG's Pic. Now if you deleted the truth (RON) Which makes no sense. Fuck me! It otherwise has to be a Mod who knows I'm from San Diego, and knows WTF I'm talking about! Let's see how fast this ones deleted. (you are a fucking lier ASHLEY.) And you know it. * What bothers me is that I know Paul Jean was and is natural. Ashley was on more than guys now! Paul Jean just had so much class and was such a quiet reserved guy, that he would never say anything. (Paul Jean & Ashley were best friends then.) But I'm sick of it!!! >:( Sorry to expose the fraud after all these years.) Reminds me of the whole "Armstrong" Ordeal. As I mentioned in my post that somehow was delet? Shawn Ray won easily! " Hey Ashley " Pharmacias Mexico, (The Circle???) Enough of your bullshit. I was there! Deleted in 3,2,1.
Fucking groundbreaking post here. Mike Ashley was juiced.
Next you'll tell us Phil Heath stands in front of the line.
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Wow this is crazy!!!!! Coming back to this thread after about 4days, and what do I see???? My revealing comments deleted!!!! ??? To summarize, I have seen first hand, as well as know from others first hand that Mike Ashley is a fucking fraud! Lier! He was 100 % juiced to the fucking gills!!! And I know for a fucking fact (I'm pissed ) Paul Jean Guillame was and is 100 % percent Natural. The details were in my original post after PJG's Pic. Now if you deleted the truth (RON) Which makes no sense. Fuck me! It otherwise has to be a Mod who knows I'm from San Diego, and knows WTF I'm talking about! Let's see how fast this ones deleted. (you are a fucking lier ASHLEY.) And you know it. * What bothers me is that I know Paul Jean was and is natural. Ashley was on more than guys now! Paul Jean just had so much class and was such a quiet reserved guy, that he would never say anything. (Paul Jean & Ashley were best friends then.) But I'm sick of it!!! >:( Sorry to expose the fraud after all these years.) Reminds me of the whole "Armstrong" Ordeal. As I mentioned in my post that somehow was delet? Shawn Ray won easily! " Hey Ashley " Pharmacias Mexico, (The Circle???) Enough of your bullshit. I was there! Deleted in 3,2,1.
I'd buy Paul Jean being natural. Mike not so much. Mike had too much tickness going on to be natty in my opinion.
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I asked Mike about the Defend masking agent when I talked to him for my interview at the BodybuildingLegendsShow. com. Go to the 1:11:00 min mark - http://bodybuildinglegendsshow.com/video-gallery?vid=vidxWmyFt
Ohhhh I seeeee - Mike (Christian) says it wasn't anything like that, it was simply due to his supreme mastery of his physiology - he didn't actually need 'the juice' to look like that... so that's cleared that up then...
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By the way - great interview, thanks for posting (and please excuse my juvenile sarcasm, my lack of self-control sickens me.... ;D)
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Ohhhh I seeeee - Mike (Christian) says it wasn't anything like that, it was simply due to his supreme mastery of his physiology - he didn't actually need 'the juice' to look like that... so that's cleared that up then...
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By the way - great interview, thanks for posting (and please excuse my juvenile sarcasm, my lack of self-control sickens me.... ;D)
Nevermind the cocaine either
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Ohhhh I seeeee - Mike (Christian) says it wasn't anything like that, it was simply due to his supreme mastery of his physiology - he didn't actually need 'the juice' to look like that... so that's cleared that up then...
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By the way - great interview, thanks for posting (and please excuse my juvenile sarcasm, my lack of self-control sickens me.... ;D)
Thanks. I just interviewed Gaspari for my Bodybuilding Legends Podcast and he mentioned Mike being on Defend also for the 1990 Mr. Olympia.
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Wow this is crazy!!!!! Coming back to this thread after about 4days, and what do I see???? My revealing comments deleted!!!! ??? To summarize, I have seen first hand, as well as know from others first hand that Mike Ashley is a fucking fraud! Lier! He was 100 % juiced to the fucking gills!!! And I know for a fucking fact (I'm pissed ) Paul Jean Guillame was and is 100 % percent Natural. The details were in my original post after PJG's Pic. Now if you deleted the truth (RON) Which makes no sense. Fuck me! It otherwise has to be a Mod who knows I'm from San Diego, and knows WTF I'm talking about! Let's see how fast this ones deleted. (you are a fucking lier ASHLEY.) And you know it. * What bothers me is that I know Paul Jean was and is natural. Ashley was on more than guys now! Paul Jean just had so much class and was such a quiet reserved guy, that he would never say anything. (Paul Jean & Ashley were best friends then.) But I'm sick of it!!! >:( Sorry to expose the fraud after all these years.) Reminds me of the whole "Armstrong" Ordeal. As I mentioned in my post that somehow was deleted? Shawn Ray won easily! " Hey Ashley " Pharmacias Mexico, (The Circle???) Enough of your bullshit. I was there! Deleted in 3,2,1.
were you and Jean Paul joined at the fucking hip?
You cant guarantee he was natty, only he knows that.
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no one is natural in pro rank.
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Props John I do like your shows a lot but not going to watch this guy lie about being natural. I've seen him workout and talked to him about steroids. If I remember correctly he knew a lot about them and he said he did his thesis or some kind of college paper on steroids. He was very knowledgeable about them. This was one on one talk to me and a couple of my workout partners at an after party. He just seemed to have way to much of an interest in steroids for someone who wasn't interested in them.
He's a colossal liar...Lying on the level that he does indicates a mental problem...
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were you and Jean Paul joined at the fucking hip?
You cant guarantee he was natty, only he knows that.
wonder if 15 agrees ???
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wonder if 15 agrees ???
Well according to 15 nobody is natural. If he is on drugs so must everybody be logic.
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Two liars interviewing each other. Priceless.
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Thanks. I just interviewed Gaspari for my Bodybuilding Legends Podcast and he mentioned Mike being on Defend also for the 1990 Mr. Olympia.
Cool - perhaps you'd be kind enough to drop a link here at some point for that one too please when it's published.
Thanks again.
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no one is natural in pro rank.
Mike Ashley looking better than today's pros.
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Cool - perhaps you'd be kind enough to drop a link here at some point for that one too please when it's published.
Thanks again.
Yes, I definitely will.
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He's a colossal liar...Lying on the level that he does indicates a mental problem...
ha ha, say what you think. true though.
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no one is natural in pro rank.
Looking at Jean Pauls legs there...not natural by a long shot.
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They're all liars....This sport seems to attract moral degenerates.
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They're all liars....This sport seems to attract moral degenerates.
End of thread.
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Looking at Jean Pauls legs there...not natural by a long shot.
I'd see jpg daily for years. I'm no natural/juiced ct'er, but I believe he was natural. He was never large. Always had a thin look to him, just round muscle bellies. He's what flex would look like had he never touched AAS.
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I'd see jpg daily for years. I'm no natural/juiced ct'er, but I believe he was natural. He was never large. Always had a thin look to him, just round muscle bellies. He's what flex would look like had he never touched AAS.
along with every other fucking celebrity.
Im getting on my own nerves now pointing this shit out, between you and blowjob 181 this site is going down the shitter, its fucking tedious...
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along with every other fucking celebrity.
Im getting on my own nerves now pointing this shit out, between you and blowjob 181 this site is going down the shitter, its fucking tedious...
Hmm.. Lets see dumbfuck.
I'm from San Diego n trained at world gym pb from what? 99? Till 05? Minus the time i was in LA.
Jpg from San Diego and trained at the same gym.
Yea
.makes no sense at all
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Hmm.. Lets see dumbfuck.
I'm from San Diego n trained at world gym pb from what? 99? Till 05? Minus the time i was in LA.
Jpg from San Diego and trained at the same gym.
Yea
.makes no sense at all
I have no doubt if someone mentions Frank Hillebrand you have likely trained at the same gym as him , flying over to Germany for a workout every other day (on John Travoltas jet) at the same time