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Title: Advices for a very painful tight lower back?
Post by: old-school-lifter on November 19, 2017, 04:15:19 PM
hi guys

7 weeks into my cycle  750mg test E and 450mg tren ace/week

, during a set of dead lifts, lower back started to get really pumped and tight- 3 days later its  as bad, hurts a lot just to try to bend a little @ the waist

any advices?
Title: Re: Advices for a very painful tight lower back?
Post by: ratherbebig on November 19, 2017, 04:20:25 PM
yes stop deadlifting

hope this helps
Title: Re: Advices for a very painful tight lower back?
Post by: Obvious Gimmick on November 19, 2017, 04:34:43 PM
Same problem here. Sucks. I stretch whenever I can (watching TV, etc).  in car and at desk, I crumple up a towel or a shirt or something and put it in small of back. Then standard ice and ibupophin. It helps me
Title: Re: Advices for a very painful tight lower back?
Post by: old-school-lifter on November 19, 2017, 04:38:07 PM
is it due to fluid retention in the lower back

would a diuretic help?
Title: Re: Advices for a very painful tight lower back?
Post by: HTexan on November 19, 2017, 04:42:59 PM
hi guys

7 weeks into my cycle  750mg test E and 450mg tren ace/week

, during a set of dead lifts, lower back started to get really pumped and tight- 3 days later its  as bad, hurts a lot just to try to bend a little @ the waist

any advices?
Buy some turmeric pills. They help.
Go to the doctor and score some Cyclobenzaprine or Skelaxin.
Title: Re: Advices for a very painful tight lower back?
Post by: Marty Champions on November 19, 2017, 04:59:37 PM
barbell hacksquats everyday at least one set a day, if i take a day off my spine loses compression and back pain kicks in
Title: Re: Advices for a very painful tight lower back?
Post by: Marty Champions on November 19, 2017, 05:08:06 PM
yes stop deadlifting

hope this helps
agreed

however behined the back deads dont hurt at all
Title: Re: Advices for a very painful tight lower back?
Post by: robcguns on November 19, 2017, 05:17:06 PM
Stop your cycle and stop deadlifting.go for a walk and loosen up.
Title: Re: Advices for a very painful tight lower back?
Post by: Mr Anabolic on November 19, 2017, 05:18:30 PM
Twice a week massage does wonders.  Only 30 minutes and have her work on your back, and glutes too.
Title: Re: Advices for a very painful tight lower back?
Post by: Royalty on November 19, 2017, 05:23:32 PM
hi guys

7 weeks into my cycle  750mg test E and 450mg tren ace/week

, during a set of dead lifts, lower back started to get really pumped and tight- 3 days later its  as bad, hurts a lot just to try to bend a little @ the waist

any advices?

Maybe you should get off the drugs. Maybe then you can start doing athletic things again. Sounds like you are about as useless as tits on a boar.
Title: Re: Advices for a very painful tight lower back?
Post by: old-school-lifter on November 19, 2017, 06:34:38 PM
thanks for help guys


will try the massage
Title: Re: Advices for a very painful tight lower back?
Post by: Addadude on November 19, 2017, 07:21:33 PM
Try this. (It really worked for me.)
 
Title: Re: Advices for a very painful tight lower back?
Post by: SOMEPARTS on November 19, 2017, 07:34:20 PM
thanks for help guys


will try the massage


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Title: Re: Advices for a very painful tight lower back?
Post by: rangerwil on November 19, 2017, 07:37:27 PM
Buy an inversion table and never look back.
Toss the deadlifts.
Title: Re: Advices for a very painful tight lower back?
Post by: Skylge on November 20, 2017, 12:39:01 AM
thanks for help guys


will try the massage

Good luck with chronic pain and injuries. Working out should inprove your health. Not ruin it. Just my 2c...
Title: Re: Advices for a very painful tight lower back?
Post by: Powerlift66 on November 20, 2017, 03:05:28 AM
Buy an inversion table and never look back.
Toss the deadlifts.


This ^

Try trap bar deadlifts as a replacement,and yes, inversion table is excellent.
Title: Re: Advices for a very painful tight lower back?
Post by: Simple Simon on November 20, 2017, 03:14:49 AM
deadlifting is stupid....
Title: Re: Advices for a very painful tight lower back?
Post by: Tapeworm on November 20, 2017, 03:32:06 AM
Try this. (It really worked for me.)
 


Nice vid.  Thanks for posting.

I don't move enough lbs for injury but still get pain from time to time.  Almost always comes back to imbalance and flexibility issues from neglecting therapeutic exercises.
Title: Re: Advices for a very painful tight lower back?
Post by: KSA on November 20, 2017, 03:52:41 AM
This ^

Try trap bar deadlifts as a replacement,and yes, inversion table is excellent.


I agree
Title: Re: Advices for a very painful tight lower back?
Post by: CalvinH on November 20, 2017, 07:07:03 AM
hi guys

7 weeks into my cycle  750mg test E and 450mg tren ace/week

, during a set of dead lifts, lower back started to get really pumped and tight- 3 days later its  as bad, hurts a lot just to try to bend a little @ the waist

any advices?

Trap bar for deads and lower the tren for a bit.
Title: Re: Advices for a very painful tight lower back?
Post by: residue on November 20, 2017, 07:10:38 AM
hi guys

7 weeks into my cycle  750mg test E and 450mg tren ace/week

, during a set of dead lifts, lower back started to get really pumped and tight- 3 days later its  as bad, hurts a lot just to try to bend a little @ the waist

any advices?
is this a joke post?

stop sitting
fix your posture
decompress your spine
soft tissue work on your glute medius
Title: Re: Advices for a very painful tight lower back?
Post by: Skorp1o on November 20, 2017, 07:14:36 AM
Stop the steroids and dead-lifting.

Read a book and drink tea, symptoms will subside.
Title: Re: Advices for a very painful tight lower back?
Post by: DroppingPlates on November 20, 2017, 07:17:19 AM
is it due to fluid retention in the lower back

would a diuretic help?

You call yourself 'old-school-lifter', but you talk like a drug-driven 'modern-school-lifter'
Title: Re: Advices for a very painful tight lower back?
Post by: Shizzo on November 20, 2017, 07:37:12 AM
Make sure you bend your knees when you are getting your ass reamed from behind.
Title: Re: Advices for a very painful tight lower back?
Post by: Grape Ape on November 20, 2017, 07:41:27 AM
Foam rolling and stretching is the answer.

The massage option is good too, but generally not realistic week in, week out.
Title: Re: Advices for a very painful tight lower back?
Post by: DroppingPlates on November 20, 2017, 07:51:51 AM
Make sure you bend your knees when you are getting your ass reamed from behind.

Based on personal experience?
Title: Re: Advices for a very painful tight lower back?
Post by: Shizzo on November 20, 2017, 08:21:47 AM
Based on personal experience?
Just basing it on percentages and Lol's....
Title: Re: Advices for a very painful tight lower back?
Post by: Powerlift66 on November 20, 2017, 08:28:16 AM
Foam rolling and stretching is the answer.

The massage option is good too, but generally not realistic week in, week out.

Yup ^^

I find stretching, backing off of DL's, inversion, foam roller, reverse hypers (or regular hypers) really help my disc issues...
Title: Re: Advices for a very painful tight lower back?
Post by: Darren Avey on November 20, 2017, 10:30:57 AM
Twice a week massage does wonders.  Only 30 minutes and have her work on your back, and glutes too.

You can afford two massages a week?!!? You must be rich.
Title: Re: Advices for a very painful tight lower back?
Post by: HTexan on November 20, 2017, 11:48:48 AM
Make sure you bend your knees when you are getting your ass reamed from behind.
So you move on from sucking dick to taking dick. Good for you, but we don't need to hear about you kicking the closet door open on here. Focus. :D
Title: Re: Advices for a very painful tight lower back?
Post by: residue on November 20, 2017, 11:54:43 AM
You can afford two massages a week?!!? You must be rich.

insurance should cover most of it
Title: Re: Advices for a very painful tight lower back?
Post by: Grape Ape on November 20, 2017, 12:04:30 PM
insurance should cover most of it

Given that, co-pay could still make it 50+ bucks a week.

I would get one, as Mr. Anabolic suggested, then switch to aggressive rolling and stretching.   I've been able to work up to rolling on baseballs, and it's helped tremendously.
Title: Re: Advices for a very painful tight lower back?
Post by: _bruce_ on November 20, 2017, 12:09:38 PM
-Deadlift with less weight
-buy two massage balls and roll along your spine from closest to most distant
-lie on the balls(massage one) where latter are put under your Sacroiliac joints and in steps along the ribs(back, front and sides)
-massage your neck and skull... this is where most back problems begin




Title: Re: Advices for a very painful tight lower back?
Post by: Sexybeast777 on November 20, 2017, 12:14:54 PM
Please op do not do steroids of any kind, they are bad for you
Title: Re: Advices for a very painful tight lower back?
Post by: HTexan on November 20, 2017, 12:48:29 PM
insurance should cover most of it
Depends on insurance company. I know for a fact that blue cross blue shield of Texas doesn’t cover it.

Funny story about massage. I went to a lady’s place that a friend recommended a couple years back. It was at her house, but she claimed to be a license massage therapist. Which I thought a little weird at the time. I brought my GF with me, she was sitting in the living room on her phone as I was getting my massage. Half way through, the “massage therapist”  then proceeded to grab my dick and starting jacking me off. I told her to stop as quickly and quietly as I could. She then told, “ oh, your girlfriend wouldn’t like that?” I’m like no shit.
I realized then why my friend like it there, and also don’t go to random bitches houses to get massages, especially not with your gf in tow.   
Title: Re: Advices for a very painful tight lower back?
Post by: dseiler on November 20, 2017, 01:08:22 PM
yes stop deadlifting INCORRECTLY

hope this helps

FIXED.
Title: Re: Advices for a very painful tight lower back?
Post by: Ted SuperSet on November 20, 2017, 01:21:20 PM
Depends on insurance company. I know for a fact that blue cross blue shield of Texas doesn’t cover it.

Funny story about massage. I went to a lady’s place that a friend recommended a couple years back. It was at her house, but she claimed to be a license massage therapist. Which I thought a little weird at the time. I brought my GF with me, she was sitting in the living room on her phone as I was getting my massage. Half way through, the “massage therapist”  then proceeded to grab my dick and starting jacking me off. I told her to stop as quickly and quietly as I could. She then told, “ oh, your girlfriend wouldn’t like that?” I’m like no shit.
I realized then why my friend like it there, and also don’t go to random bitches houses to get massages, especially not with your gf in tow.   

Lol you are bullshitting right?
Title: Re: Advices for a very painful tight lower back?
Post by: Royalty on November 20, 2017, 01:26:56 PM
Depends on insurance company. I know for a fact that blue cross blue shield of Texas doesn’t cover it.

Funny story about massage. I went to a lady’s place that a friend recommended a couple years back. It was at her house, but she claimed to be a license massage therapist. Which I thought a little weird at the time. I brought my GF with me, she was sitting in the living room on her phone as I was getting my massage. Half way through, the “massage therapist”  then proceeded to grab my dick and starting jacking me off. I told her to stop as quickly and quietly as I could. She then told, “ oh, your girlfriend wouldn’t like that?” I’m like no shit.
I realized then why my friend like it there, and also don’t go to random bitches houses to get massages, especially not with your gf in tow.   

Sounds like she was a prostitute too
Title: Re: Advices for a very painful tight lower back?
Post by: residue on November 20, 2017, 01:31:47 PM
Depends on insurance company. I know for a fact that blue cross blue shield of Texas doesn’t cover it.

Funny story about massage. I went to a lady’s place that a friend recommended a couple years back. It was at her house, but she claimed to be a license massage therapist. Which I thought a little weird at the time. I brought my GF with me, she was sitting in the living room on her phone as I was getting my massage. Half way through, the “massage therapist”  then proceeded to grab my dick and starting jacking me off. I told her to stop as quickly and quietly as I could. She then told, “ oh, your girlfriend wouldn’t like that?” I’m like no shit.
I realized then why my friend like it there, and also don’t go to random bitches houses to get massages, especially not with your gf in tow.   

i mean a proper place, a physical therapist or a even a chiropractor should be covered, not a dirty rub n' tug
Title: Re: Advices for a very painful tight lower back?
Post by: Mr Anabolic on November 20, 2017, 05:19:59 PM
You can afford two massages a week?!!? You must be rich.

If I am not in pain or injured, I go less often.  30 min is actually a long time if you have her concentrate on just one or two areas.  I often pay cash out of pocket.  The massage therapists in my area that are covered under my insurance are not so great.  I go to a Chinese woman from Shanghai.  She is a deep muscle massage expert.  She finds every lesion/problem and works them all.  Most knowledgeable masseuse I ever had.
Title: Re: Advices for a very painful tight lower back?
Post by: oldschoolfan on November 20, 2017, 05:20:44 PM
oldschool lifter, in all seriousness maybe you should quit deadlifting or lower the weight a bit.
Title: Re: Advices for a very painful tight lower back?
Post by: HTexan on November 20, 2017, 06:16:00 PM
Lol you are bullshitting right?
Wish I was.
I told my GF about it because i didn’t want that lady “massaging” my gf and I didn’t do anything. Big mistake, I got accused of know what kind of place it was and embarrassing her. Becuase if I wanted a handjob from a stranger I would take her along, right?  ???
Title: Re: Advices for a very painful tight lower back?
Post by: HTexan on November 20, 2017, 06:18:14 PM
i mean a proper place, a physical therapist or a even a chiropractor should be covered, not a dirty rub n' tug
Ok yeah chiropractor is cover, deep tissue isn’t.
Spinal decompression therapy is the best for spinal pressure IMO.
Title: Re: Advices for a very painful tight lower back?
Post by: oldtimer1 on November 20, 2017, 08:12:16 PM
This works for me. Might not work for you. Could make it worst. Consult a doctor.

1. Weighted standard back extensions holding a plate behind my head. The new 45 degree benches are terrible. The resistance drops off at the top. I use an old school horizontal back extension bench. I'll put a picture of the type of hyper bench that's best.

2. Semi stiff leg deadlifts off a block to get a stretch. Very slowly and under control go deep and use low reps like 2 sets of 6.

3. Hanging ab leg raises with ab straps. While you're working abs you are stretching out your spine.

4. When deadlifting never jerk the bar off the ground. I know this leads to more weight you can use but it's a recipe to wreck your back. A smooth gradual application of force to get the bar off the floor.

5. Gentle stretching of the hamstrings and lower back. If you force flexibility you will aggravate your back and make it worst.

6. Walk for cardio or run. This will often fix back issues. We sit too much. We drive to work, sit at work and then go to the gym and sit in machines. Training delts stand. Standing military press and dumbbell press. Make sure many of your exercises are a form of standing.

7. Work your abs with an old fashion $10 ab wheel. Do a couple of sets from your knees and roll out as far as you can and back. ABs in my opinion are there to protect you organs. They have a very limited range of motion.  Doing leg raises and sit up variations are working your hip flexors with some ab involvement. Try the ab wheel. I bet your abs will be sore. If it's too easy don't do it from your knees but keep your feet on the floor.




Title: Re: Advices for a very painful tight lower back?
Post by: sceagacros on November 20, 2017, 10:45:26 PM
If it's truly just a case of chemically induced pumps and not loose form .........You could try substituting Romanian Deads as your variation during the cycle, still some lower back, but involvement is much reduced if performed as a proper hip hinge - think "moving ass back " not "moving bar down". Once you've got the basic form down - 3-4 heavy sets of 5-8 reps thrown in after squats /front squats 2x/wk will make you a beast in short order.
Title: Re: Advices for a very painful tight lower back?
Post by: Simple Simon on November 21, 2017, 01:01:22 AM
I have had low back issues since 1988 when I pushed a disc out squatting.

It has plagued me ever since, L4 and L5 both bulging and a slight bulge in one of my thoracic discs.

I have to be very careful doing manual tasks, I very rarely get injured training as I am conscious of maintaining form, I have had far more back spasms tying my shoe laces and sneezing...

I never squat, deadlift , I do all of my dumbbell exercises seated.
I do 4 sets 20 reps stiff leg deadlifts with a 10 kilo plate every workout, this keeps my low back muscles developed enough to stave off spasms.
I also use a foam roller for my mid back every night and also do spine rotations to free off any tightness before I go to bed.
When I stopped training in the late 90s my back went considerably worse as my low back muscles weakened.
Title: Re: Advices for a very painful tight lower back?
Post by: dseiler on November 21, 2017, 04:16:19 AM
Foam rolling and stretching is the answer.

The massage option is good too, but generally not realistic week in, week out.

Also, google body tempering. Compression is king.
Title: Re: Advices for a very painful tight lower back?
Post by: Simple Simon on November 21, 2017, 06:08:28 AM
Also, google body tempering. Compression is king.
I think 99% of the posters here have already googled "body tampering"
Title: Re: Advices for a very painful tight lower back?
Post by: rangerwil on November 21, 2017, 06:46:36 AM
Try this. (It really worked for me.)
 


Ive been watching his vids for about a year.
He's NO YOUTUBE QUACK.
AthleanX is about as close as you can come to your own PROFESSIONAL trainer as you could get.
Go back and look at his old stuff. Uploads almost daily too. TONS of useful stuff
Title: Re: Advices for a very painful tight lower back?
Post by: ilalin on November 21, 2017, 08:14:03 AM
lot of good advice for low back issues here. Inversion table and stretching in the oppposite side of the injury to relieve pressure is probably the best you can do. Strengthening core is a must.

My L5/S1 is completely gone and vertebrae are touching. Here I need pain meds, no opiates though. Never go the opiate route.

If MRI shows bulging, intravertebral corticosteroids ca do wonders. and please stop heavy back breaking exercises, it will make things only much worse to the point where you won't be able to walk...