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This is the REAL truth for the people who are speculating or wondering what is the cause of the turmoil or want to know what's happening.
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Bill Belichick is ALWAYS someone who makes the best decisions for the betterment of the team and the organization. His only care is winning. This has proven to have worked throughout his tenure in New England as they have been the best team in the NFL since he has taken over coaching duties.
Belichick's winning mindset has been put on display many times throughout his coaching tenure as his loyalty only extends as far as what the player can do for the organization and nothing else. Between letting Chandler Jones go when he led the league in sacks. Letting Jamie Collins go mid season when he was arguably the best MLB in the NFL at the time. And now getting rid of Jimmy Goroppolo for a second round pick. Although this time, it was not Belichick's decision or choice.
Truth be told, Belichick wanted to get rid of Tom Brady after this season. And has been breeding Jimmy to take over the franchise for the past few years. Although Brady is in contention for MVP, his numbers have been dwindling in the second half of the season and his age is showing. At 40, he only has so much left in the tank before he needs to be replaced.
Belichick had been planning for Brady to be replaced by Jimmy for quite a while now, and was ready to pull the trigger after Brady left off on a good season. No point in Brady sticking around for his dropoff. Belichick didn't want to waste time watching Brady drop off.
Robert Kraft absolutely loves Brady, and everything about him. Kraft knows that Belichicks attitude and decisions should always be trusted and Kraft had always trusted them.
As you may know, many top athletes and celebrities are not immune to becoming delusional despite their success and riches about their knowledge. Tom Brady genuinely believed his long time trainer Alex Guerrero (Who was not a part of the organization directly who traveled with them constantly) was the KEY for him to be able to play high level football at his age of 40. Interest in Tom Brady's longevity caused many players to adopt the "TB12" training method which included alot of bro science about nutrition and training, as well as a distaste for traditional weight training..
After many athletes reported that these methods weren't for them. This struck up some controversy. Guerrero was telling alot players that he knew MORE than alot of the trainers that were directly with the team. With Tom Brady as the poster boy it's hard for alot of onlookers who don't know the details to not agree without knowing the insider info.
Belicheck thought Guerrero was a distraction and banned him from traveling with the team and being around Brady all the time which we was for the past decade. This disgruntled Brady, who is working on a TB12 method book and APP with Guerrero and this completely derailed it.
Brady went to the front office and demanded that Jimmy be traded immediately or he would be leaving. As Brady felt Belicheck had too much control over the team and situation that Brady was used to sharing. He had always supported and understood the Belicheck pump and dump way of winning and not overpaying old players, until it finally came to him. Between kicking his trainer out and building up Jimmy to replace him. Kraft then IMMEDIATELY demanded Belicheck to trade Jimmy. Belicheck was furious and the Patriots ended up trading him for an underwhelming price of a 2nd round pick to the 49ers.
Brady celebrated like a child as both of his backups had been traded, so that there was nobody to replace him now. He treated this like a victory, and flaunted it in Belichecks face.
Rumor has it that he was traded to the 49ers instead of the Browns for a HIGHER price, so that Jimmy can preform in an ideal environment to shove it into Krafts face that Jimmy was a star in the making and his future was sacrificed for an extra year or two of a 40 year old.
Lots of pettiness has put a damper on the very essence of what the Patriot-way is all about. WINNING over emotion.
This is the first time that multiple decisions in a row have been made out of emotion at the expense of the team. Questioning to many, if this is the beginning of the end for the Patriots era.
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Go Pats.
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good post
thank you
I love billy b (and i am a ravens and eagles fan)
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good post
thank you
I love billy b (and i am a ravens and eagles fan)
He's great. And he's been there and done that and his methods work. If it ain't broke don't fix it.
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They will regret the jimmy decision
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Brady took the "shit show" Patriots and turned them into a majestic EPIC DYNASTY
The owners of the Patriots are now showing Brady their gratitude.
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Brady took the "shit show" Patriots and turned them into a majestic EPIC DYNASTY
The owners of the Patriots are now showing Brady their gratitude.
Very similar to how the Lakers showed their gratitude to Kobe by offering him 25 million a year when he was over 35 and wasn’t good anymore. Set the Lakers franchise back years. It just doesn’t work.
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Very similar to how the Lakers showed their gratitude to Kobe by offering him 25 million a year when he was over 35 and wasn’t good anymore. Set the Lakers franchise back years. It just doesn’t work.
This
And they prob just lost a future qb if Jimmy keeps performing the way he’s been doing
They have no successor to Brady
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Haters gonna hate
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http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/page/hotread180105/beginning-end-new-england-patriots-robert-kraft-tom-brady-bill-belichick-internal-power-struggle
This is an interesting read
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http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/page/hotread180105/beginning-end-new-england-patriots-robert-kraft-tom-brady-bill-belichick-internal-power-struggle
This is an interesting read
Tried and about 2 paragraphs in i just had to x out of the page. Between the video and the ads not shutting the fuck up even after closing them.
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Is TB12 code name for 12 IU of hgh a day?
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Just speaking as a Giants fan with no strong opinions on the pats, and has paid very little attention to the 2018 season, (rhetorical question incoming) what did Belichik accomplish before Brady ???
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Just speaking as a Giants fan with no strong opinions on the pats, and has paid very little attention to the 2018 season, (rhetorical question incoming) what did Belichik accomplish before Brady ???
who cares, but he came together and killed it.
it took the right QB for him (synergy) and hit a huge grand slam as a coach.
he is the man, fyi im not a pats fan
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who cares, but he came together and killed it.
it took the right QB for him (synergy) and hit a huge grand slam as a coach.
he is the man, fyi im not a pats fan
I agree.
Just looked up standings. Pats are 13-3 with homefield throughout? I know some jets fans that would love this sort of "turmoil".
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I agree.
Just looked up standings. Pats are 13-3 with homefield throughout? I know some jets fans that would love this sort of "turmoil".
it’s more of a question of did it put their long term success I. Jeopardy?
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Brady should have retired on top after that last Superbowl. The NFL is no place for a 40 year old. Go home and fuck your supermodel wife.
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Brady should have retired on top after that last Superbowl. The NFL is no place for a 40 year old. Go home and fuck your supermodel wife.
Why should he? He’s winning and on top, no injuries
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Is that something you actually wrote ???
If so, had to be some sort of record for longest realpost without a troll response. Maybe this is a football forum, after all???
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Very similar to how the Lakers showed their gratitude to Kobe by offering him 25 million a year when he was over 35 and wasn’t good anymore. Set the Lakers franchise back years. It just doesn’t work.
Offering Kobe over payment didn't set the Lakers back; bad management, lousg drafting and terrible coaching did. The overpayment was done to keep a marquee star (in name) to satisfy the television contract. Jimmy Buss and Mitch Kupcheck complicated matters with numerous questionable decisions. Forcing Jerry West out is the foundation of all their issues.
They could have treated Tom like every other veteran on the tailend of their career but because of his accomplishments and his sacrifices they have decided to treat TB differently. And you cant fault the Pats for that.
Enjoy him and this team while they are winning, they are a perfect storm. Even if they kept Jimmy G there's no guarantee Bill would stick around, hes in his 60's, and continue to win championships.
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it’s more of a question of did it put their long term success I. Jeopardy?
They've had long term success like no other team has ever had.
The 9ers went from Montana to Young and won 1 Superbowl, the Packers did the same with Favre to Rodgers. Nothing is guaranteed and it takes more than one player too win a Superbowl.
Obviously having JG waiting in the wing would be beneficial but they've had a system that works.
If Bill leaves then you know the long term success is over....
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ESPN + Libtard journalism supreme, very far from "real truth" most of this has already been seen as fake news (in this area).
"Oh my, a small rift in the work place, we might win the SB, but not be best buds".
Libtards and sheeple ::)
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They've had long term success like no other team has ever had.
The 9ers went from Montana to Young and won 1 Superbowl, the Packers did the same with Favre to Rodgers. Nothing is guaranteed and it takes more than one player too win a Superbowl.
Obviously having JG waiting in the wing would be beneficial but they've had a system that works.
If Bill leaves then you know the long term success is over....
It’s not like favre won many sb’s either, he has just 1 in his long career, still better than nothing
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Rumors are already going around that Belichick wants out of New England and that the Giants coaching job is what he wants :D
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Why should he? He’s winning and on top, no injuries
Your question answers itself.
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Your question answers itself.
Let me call Tom tomorrow and discuss his future plans
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ESPN + Libtard journalism supreme, very far from "real truth" most of this has already been seen as fake news (in this area).
"Oh my, a small rift in the work place, we might win the SB, but not be best buds".
Libtards and sheeple ::)
lol I am not referring to ESPN for anything I am referring to local news sports channels like Felger and Mazz and Toucher and Rich. Yes most of it is factual. It’s their job to report and ask questions big guy. It’s a fact that they were all supposed to meet later in December but didn’t because of the tension as well.
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Felger and Mazz are the best sports guys in this area.
They are fans, but not homers, and can look at things through an objective lens.
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Is TB12>FST7?
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Felger and Mazz are the best sports guys in this area.
They are fans, but not homers, and can look at things through an objective lens.
Kirk Minihan LoL
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It’s not like favre won many sb’s either, he has just 1 in his long career, still better than nothing
That's my point though, only one team wins the Superbowl per year. Being competitive and making the playoffs year after year is an accomplishment, winning a Superbowl is hard.
So many things have to go right like having the right guys stay healthy enough to compete in the last game....
The NFL paints the narrative that every team has a chance to win at the start of the year and even if that were true starting today it would still take 32 YEARS for every team to win a Superbowl one time....
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They had a nice run and it’ll end pretty quickly so of course there are riffs.
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HATERZ!!!
If your team won 5 superbowls and supposedly cheated, you would be defending them. You're going to knock it because it's not your team winning.
No difference.
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HATERZ!!!
If your team won 5 superbowls and supposedly cheated, you would be defending them. You're going to knock it because it's not your team winning.
No difference.
All of the Patriots cheating methods have been proven negligible and not game changing. In fact there is evidence to the contrary that they were actually counter productive in many cases. So they would have had the same number of super bowls regardless.
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All of the Patriots cheating methods have been proven negligible and not game changing. In fact there is evidence to the contrary that they were actually counter productive in many cases. So they would have had the same number of super bowls regardless.
Even better. :D :D
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All of the Patriots cheating methods have been proven negligible and not game changing. In fact there is evidence to the contrary that they were actually counter productive in many cases. So they would have had the same number of super bowls regardless.
This is untrue, since it's impossible to prove. Spygate was deeper than the initial story, with over 100 interviews conducted.
But it's very simple - if you win games by very small margins, as the Patriots did during the three spygate SBs, then it's very rationale to think a small advantage could have made the difference.
Since the Patriots were fined millions and docked draft picks for cheating during this era, and they barely won the games, it's entire reasonable to question them. It's not being a hater, it's a reasonable view any objective fan can take.
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This is untrue, since it's impossible to prove. Spygate was deeper than the initial story, with over 100 interviews conducted.
But it's very simple - if you win games by very small margins, as the Patriots did during the three spygate SBs, then it's very rationale to think a small advantage could have made the difference.
Since the Patriots were fined millions and docked draft picks for cheating during this era, and they barely won the games, it's entire reasonable to question them. It's not being a hater, it's a reasonable view any objective fan can take.
Grape Ape, what is your opinion about Shizzo being a Pats fan?
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This is untrue, since it's impossible to prove. Spygate was deeper than the initial story, with over 100 interviews conducted.
But it's very simple - if you win games by very small margins, as the Patriots did during the three spygate SBs, then it's very rationale to think a small advantage could have made the difference.
Since the Patriots were fined millions and docked draft picks for cheating during this era, and they barely won the games, it's entire reasonable to question them. It's not being a hater, it's a reasonable view any objective fan can take.
Here we go with the "Well they could have been cheating but i guess we'll never know"
As if that doesn't apply to every single team ::)
Get real Grape. The only things we can go by are the evidences presented to us. The fact is that the Patriots scored more points when the balls WEREN'T deflated, then when they were. So their method of getting an advantage on the competition actually backfired. Not only that, but many other teams including the Packers were caught doing the same deflating methods with the footballs and were outed.
What are the two common themes after that? 1. Patriots are the only team that continues to get mentioned 2. All of the other teams suck.
Spygate is what literally every team in every sport does. This is why coordinators cover their mouths with their clipboards and same with base coaches signaling and covering their mouths.
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Here we go with the "Well they could have been cheating but i guess we'll never know"
As if that doesn't apply to every single team ::)
Get real Grape. The only things we can go by are the evidences presented to us. The fact is that the Patriots scored more points when the balls WEREN'T deflated, then when they were. So their method of getting an advantage on the competition actually backfired. Not only that, but many other teams including the Packers were caught doing the same deflating methods with the footballs and were outed.
What are the two common themes after that? 1. Patriots are the only team that continues to get mentioned 2. All of the other teams suck.
Spygate is what literally every team in every sport does. This is why coordinators cover their mouths with their clipboards and same with base coaches signaling and covering their mouths.
Never said anything about deflategate, as it has nothing to do with what I'm talking about. The treatment they got with deflategate, however, was the result of their actions in Spygate, and their arrogance and lack of cooperation during the investigation.
As for your other statement, Spygate is NOT what every team does, not even close. That's a pretty ignorant statement, considering everything that was revealed since. Other team's cameramen didn't wear disguises, they didn't have a full time employee deciphering codes, and didn't have the NFL's help covering it up: https://deadspin.com/bombshell-espn-report-the-patriots-were-huge-cheaters-1729286402
The only people saying everyone did what the Pats did is common are Pats fans ignoring the truth, or those who didn't care enough to read up on it.
Felger and Mass themselves have explained this.
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Never said anything about deflategate, as it has nothing to do with what I'm talking about. The treatment they got with deflategate, however, was the result of their actions in Spygate, and their arrogance and lack of cooperation during the investigation.
As for your other statement, Spygate is NOT what every team does, not even close. That's a pretty ignorant statement, considering everything that was revealed since. Other team's cameramen didn't wear disguises, they didn't have a full time employee deciphering codes, and didn't have the NFL's help covering it up: https://deadspin.com/bombshell-espn-report-the-patriots-were-huge-cheaters-1729286402
The only people saying everyone did what the Pats did is common are Pats fans ignoring the truth, or those who didn't care enough to read up on it.
Felger and Mass themselves have explained this.
Grape Ape, when are you going to stop being a huge hater toward the Patriots?
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you have any thoughts on Jerry Jones and the NFL commissioner and feud with the NFL?
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this story is bullshit.. they trying to move the focus on a "struggling" franchise, so if they so happen to go to the Superbowl, they can all cry and hug like the won against all odds. Makes me want to vomit. Hope the Saints meet them and blow the doors off their asses.
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this story is bullshit.. they trying to move the focus on a "struggling" franchise, so if they so happen to go to the Superbowl, they can all cry and hug like the won against all odds. Makes me want to vomit. Hope the Saints meet them and blow the doors off their asses.
How did the greatest show on turf fare after all the hoopla?
Oh wait the Pats cheated. :D
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How did the greatest show on turf fare after all the hoopla?
Oh wait the Pats cheated. :D
What do you make of the latest story on the internal Pats strife?
My take is, who cares? Has not affected anything on the field. If it's not all rainbows and unicorns, does it make any difference? There 's been rumors of Brady / Belichek tension for years.
Now, if it leads to Belichek coaching the Giants, that's a different story..... ;D
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Brady took the "shit show" Patriots and turned them into a majestic EPIC DYNASTY
The owners of the Patriots are now showing Brady their gratitude.
They owe him nor anyone else nothing but the good paycheck he and other pros get
LOL @ them owing someone
where is Blockhead with his classic post from years ago about "sport fans"? Best thing on the subject I have ever read from the4 guy
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What do you make of the latest story on the internal Pats strife?
My take is, who cares? Has not affected anything on the field. If it's not all rainbows and unicorns, does it make any difference? There 's been rumors of Brady / Belichek tension for years.
Now, if it leads to Belichek coaching the Giants, that's a different story..... ;D
I hope Eli Manning goes to a team that is not part of a shit organization like the Giants. He will get much more success in Jacksonville. Lady luck stopped dancing with the Giants a while ago.
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What do you make of the latest story on the internal Pats strife?
My take is, who cares? Has not affected anything on the field. If it's not all rainbows and unicorns, does it make any difference? There 's been rumors of Brady / Belichek tension for years.
Now, if it leads to Belichek coaching the Giants, that's a different story..... ;D
If it's true I wouldn't blame him for leaving. I can't for the life of me figure out why they traded both back ups. :-\ I've followed them since I was kid and never expected a run like this. There was a time when games were blacked out for the Boston market yet we could see the game in NH. They've come a long way from this.
Those bench seats sucked!
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I hate football and I'm not going to watch but I think it would be funny if the Patriots won the Superbowl again.
Why not? lol.
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I hate football and I'm not going to watch but I think it would be funny if the Patriots won the Superbowl again.
Why not? lol.
funny thing is they probably will ;D
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As an Eagles fan, hope he stays in New England.
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Just speaking as a Giants fan with no strong opinions on the pats, and has paid very little attention to the 2018 season, (rhetorical question incoming) what did Belichik accomplish before Brady ???
Well wasn't he Parcells's defensive cordinator in at least one of his super bowl wins?
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Well wasn't he Parcells's defensive cordinator in at least one of his super bowl wins?
Yes, and he was also smart enough to walk away from the Jets' mess Parcells left him.
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Make it Happen!!!
“Bill Belichick this is Jerry Jones of the Dallas Cowboys”
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Those bench seats sucked!
Been there during those days as well.
Was also at the game in 2001 when Bledsoe went down against the Jets, and the Brady era began.
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Dez should go to the Patriots
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Been there during those days as well.
Was also at the game in 2001 when Bledsoe went down against the Jets, and the Brady era began.
Man I swear I could hear that hit in the stands because the aluminum vibrated. :D
He was almost killed. Internal bleeding was bad.
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Dez should go to the Patriots
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Let them deal with him.
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Grape Ape, when are you going to stop being a huge hater toward the Patriots?
He can’t help it he’s a giants fan, a big sinking ship of a team that finally sunk this season and no hope anytime of winning or making the play offs in a very long time
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Make it Happen!!!
“Bill Belichick this is Jerry Jones of the Dallas Cowboys”
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Jerry would have to give up full control which we all know he won’t , it would be epic
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Bill Belichick is the greatest professional football coach of all time. He is the brains behind this organization. I'll follow him wherever he goes. Including retirement.