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I'm not a strict vegan or anything, but I probably have meat and dairy only once a week (in any significant amount). I don't remember exactly when I switched, but it was several months after the first test (5/27/2015).
Thought I'd share in case anyone is interested.
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I'm not a strict vegan or anything, but I probably have meat and dairy only once a week (in any significant amount). I don't remember exactly when I switched, but it was several months after the first test (5/27/2015).
Thought I'd share in case anyone is interested.
(https://powerm1985.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/christine-maggiore-hiv-results-5.jpg)
Sorry to hear about that :(
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better lipid profile before turning ''vegan'' ...so switch back
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It's the sugar that causes all the problems, not the meat or the fat.
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It's the sugar that causes all the problems, not the meat or the fat.
And, even more precisely, the amount of sugar people eat.
The word "moderation" escapes most people when it comes to eating.
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too many unaccounted variables for me to comment on. but your data proves to u to eat more of the dead
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Sorry to hear about that :(
Haha
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One "organic" cucumber too many and the Aids effect is setting in.
P.I.P.
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Vegan CHOL ...... WAY WAY WAY too low for optimal hormone function.... CHOL that low can lead to ED
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Vegan CHOL ...... WAY WAY WAY too low for optimal hormone function.... CHOL that low can lead to ED
What do you think are good numbers?
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And, even more precisely, the amount of sugar people eat.
The word "moderation" escapes most people when it comes to eating.
I love me some sugartits!
I'm guilty of having too much sugar for sure. Need a 12 step program and some shock therapy.
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How do you feel and how do you look is the most important thing, has your life improved since starting this diet?
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What do you think are good numbers?
Can read up on some stuff by Dr John Crisler... one of the top TRT/HRT guys in the country...
http://www.drjohncrisler.com/index.html
From what he's said... at least CHOL of > 150
CHOL is needed for all hormones in the body to function properly.... too low and its definitely not optimal
"Hormone Manufacturing
One of the most important jobs of cholesterol is to aide in the production of hormones. Cholesterol is stored in the adrenal glands, ovaries and the testes and is converted to steroid hormones. These steroid hormones perform other vital duties to help the body function properly. According to 3DChem.com, without steroid hormones we will have malfunctions with weight, sex, digestion, bone health and mental status.
Digestion
Cholesterol plays an important role in our body’s digestion. Cholesterol is used to help the liver create bile which aids us in digesting the food that we eat. Without the bile our bodies are unable to properly digest foods, especially fats. When the fat goes undigested it can get into the bloodstream and cause additional problems such as blockages of the arteries and cause heart attacks and heart disease.
Building Blocks
Cholesterol is a structural component of cells. Cholesterol along with polar lipids make up the structure of each and every cell in our bodies. Cholesterol is there to basically provide a protective barrier. When the amount of cholesterol increases or decreases, the cells are affected. This change can affect our ability to metabolize and produce energy. This can ultimately affect other aspects of our bodies' function such as food intake and digestion."
https://www.livestrong.com/article/29614-importance-cholesterol/
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How do you feel and how do you look is the most important thing, has your life improved since starting this diet?
I feel fine and look good and i eat whatever i like...works for me...
All this organic veg is just a fucking scam.
Everyone had to buy organic veg years ago because veg that had preservatives added was more expensive as it didnt go off, they have managed to market cheaper organic veg as better for you they charge you double and everyone fell for it.
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It's the sugar that causes all the problems, not the meat or the fat.
yep - cutting sugar has changed my skin and being more keto based the fats have improved my skin 10x
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cutting sugar is the gayest thing ive ever heard since veganism
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cutting sugar is the gayest thing ive ever heard since veganism
latest fad of peace.....
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Can read up on some stuff by Dr John Crisler... one of the top TRT/HRT guys in the country...
http://www.drjohncrisler.com/index.html
From what he's said... at least CHOL of > 150
CHOL is needed for all hormones in the body to function properly.... too low and its definitely not optimal
"Hormone Manufacturing
One of the most important jobs of cholesterol is to aide in the production of hormones. Cholesterol is stored in the adrenal glands, ovaries and the testes and is converted to steroid hormones. These steroid hormones perform other vital duties to help the body function properly. According to 3DChem.com, without steroid hormones we will have malfunctions with weight, sex, digestion, bone health and mental status.
Digestion
Cholesterol plays an important role in our body’s digestion. Cholesterol is used to help the liver create bile which aids us in digesting the food that we eat. Without the bile our bodies are unable to properly digest foods, especially fats. When the fat goes undigested it can get into the bloodstream and cause additional problems such as blockages of the arteries and cause heart attacks and heart disease.
Building Blocks
Cholesterol is a structural component of cells. Cholesterol along with polar lipids make up the structure of each and every cell in our bodies. Cholesterol is there to basically provide a protective barrier. When the amount of cholesterol increases or decreases, the cells are affected. This change can affect our ability to metabolize and produce energy. This can ultimately affect other aspects of our bodies' function such as food intake and digestion."
https://www.livestrong.com/article/29614-importance-cholesterol/
Crisler is the man. I’ve listened to many of his interviews, and he’s very knowledgeable.
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I wouldn't know how to eat purely vegan. Describe breakfast, lunch and dinner. Sounds like it would get really boring quick.
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I wouldn't know how to eat purely vegan. Describe breakfast, lunch and dinner. Sounds like it would get really boring quick.
http://nutritionstudies.org/recipes/
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I feel fine and look good and i eat whatever i like...works for me...
All this organic veg is just a fucking scam.
Everyone had to buy organic veg years ago because veg that had preservatives added was more expensive as it didnt go off, they have managed to market cheaper organic veg as better for you they charge you double and everyone fell for it.
If you feel good and look good thats great, hell Floyd Mayweather went 50-0 and that dude eats fuckin TacoBell and fast food everyday, and can train like a madman. But obviously OP must of had a reason to go vegan, so just interested in how it's changed his health/well being.
Organic I believe people buy it because they don't want to eat fruits and veggies with pesticides. Meats with hormones and antibiotics, however the healthiest foods are coincidentally the most expensive and the worst foods for you seem to be the cheapest. Weird stuff.
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If you feel good and look good thats great, hell Floyd Mayweather went 50-0 and that dude eats fuckin TacoBell and fast food everyday, and can train like a madman. But obviously OP must of had a reason to go vegan, so just interested in how it's changed his health/well being.
Organic I believe people buy it because they don't want to eat fruits and veggies with pesticides. Meats with hormones and antibiotics, however the healthiest foods are coincidentally the most expensive and the worst foods for you seem to be the cheapest. Weird stuff.
Organic produce is grown with pesticides. People are ignorant sheep when it comes to nutrition. They’re 50 pounds overweight yet they worry about whether something is organic or gluten-free while they’re eating their daily 1000 calorie surplus.
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Organic produce is grown with pesticides. People are ignorant sheep when it comes to nutrition. They’re 50 pounds overweight yet they worry about whether something is organic or gluten-free while they’re eating their daily 1000 calorie surplus.
Really? I thought there were no pesticides, either way, doesn't really make a difference to me, I live on a cruiseship and they are definitely not serving organic foods ;D One thing I will say is you can definitely taste the difference between grassfed beef and regular beef, also omega 3 eggs taste different then regular eggs.
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So does vegan mean eating no animal products but eating anything else you want?
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Did you get your homocysteine levels measured before and after? That would be interesting to see.
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Really? I thought there were no pesticides, either way, doesn't really make a difference to me, I live on a cruiseship and they are definitely not serving organic foods ;D One thing I will say is you can definitely taste the difference between grassfed beef and regular beef, also omega 3 eggs taste different then regular eggs.
all cattle eat grass
Stop falling for that shit
You will be telling me oats cut with steel are better for you next...
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all cattle eat grass
Stop falling for that shit
You will be telling me oats cut with steel are better for you next...
? not sure about the UK, but in USA cows are fed corn, and there is an absolutely different taste to the beef when grass fed, is it healthier?? Who knows.
Steel cut oats are just processed differently then rolled oats, and quick oats.
Steel-cut oats derive their name from the process by which they are produced – large steel blades chop the groats into two or three pieces, resulting in a texture chewier and coarser than other oats.
Is it healthier? Again I don't know, I don't eat oats so it isn't something I'm too concerned about.
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Really? I thought there were no pesticides, either way, doesn't really make a difference to me, I live on a cruiseship and they are definitely not serving organic foods ;D One thing I will say is you can definitely taste the difference between grassfed beef and regular beef, also omega 3 eggs taste different then regular eggs.
Yes, sir. Farmers of fruits and veggies grown organically have to follow a guideline of organic-approved pesticides . Some of those pesticides are also used in conventially grown produce. A good amount of pesticide residue can still be found on organic produce because they’re typically sprayed more often. I’m in South Florida which grows a ton of veggies for the US where it’s freezing all over the rest of the country, and if we tried to grow crops without pesticides, it wouldn’t produce a consumable piece of fruit. I need the majority of people think organic=zero chemicals which isn’t the case.
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"mostly vegan" is an expressioned used by people who are also "mostly heterosexual"
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? not sure about the UK, but in USA cows are fed corn, and there is an absolutely different taste to the beef when grass fed, is it healthier?? Who knows.
Steel cut oats are just processed differently then rolled oats, and quick oats.
Steel-cut oats derive their name from the process by which they are produced – large steel blades chop the groats into two or three pieces, resulting in a texture chewier and coarser than other oats.
Is it healthier? Again I don't know, I don't eat oats so it isn't something I'm too concerned about.
Different cattle feeding production systems have separate advantages and disadvantages. Most cattle in the US have a diet that is composed of at least some forage (grass, legumes, or silage). In fact, most beef cattle are raised on pasture from birth in the spring until autumn (7 to 9 months).[1] Then for pasture-fed animals, grass is the forage that composes all or at least the great majority of their diet. Cattle fattened in feedlots are fed small amounts of hay supplemented with grain, soy and other ingredients in order to increase the energy density of the diet. The debate is whether cattle should be raised on diets primarily composed of pasture (grass) or a concentrated diet of grain, soy, corn and other supplements. The issue is often complicated by the political interests and confusion between labels such as "free range", "organic", or "natural". Cattle raised on a primarily forage diet are termed grass-fed or pasture-raised; for example meat or milk may be called grass-fed beef or pasture-raised dairy. However, the term "pasture-raised" can lead to confusion with the term "free range", which does not describe exactly what the animals eat.
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Interesting. Well either way it doesn't really make a difference for me, I live on a cruiseship and eat probably the lowest quality meats available for human consumption. I don't know where it comes from, where it's grown, it all comes on board frozen, definitely nothing grassfed or organic. But my bloodwork is good and my elimination process is great, my energy levels are great, my digestion is great, so I just stick to the same formula. If I had digestion issues, energy issues, I'd definitely look into my food sources/diet and try to correct it. Still wondering why OP switched to "mostly vegan" but hasn't really responded.
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Interesting. Well either way it doesn't really make a difference for me, I live on a cruiseship and eat probably the lowest quality meats available for human consumption. I don't know where it comes from, where it's grown, it all comes on board frozen, definitely nothing grassfed or organic. But my bloodwork is good and my elimination process is great, my energy levels are great, my digestion is great, so I just stick to the same formula. If I had digestion issues, energy issues, I'd definitely look into my food sources/diet and try to correct it. Still wondering why OP switched to "mostly vegan" but hasn't really responded.
my wifes on a 21 day cruise to the far east next week, Im sure she will be pleased to hear that.
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my wifes on a 21 day cruise to the far east next week, Im sure she will be pleased to hear that.
Dont get me wrong they have premium meats, but they definitely aren't serving it to the crew members. If you have connections with some chefs as a employee, then you can get some premium stuff, I wrote the Executive Chef's training regimen so I can get steaks or salmon when I want. But they aren't serving employees steaks, salmon, jumbo shrimp, lobster, or sushi, thats for sure.
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I wonder is super-processed non-animal foodstuffs of the future like this stuff will turn out to be a good or bad thing...
"The Impossible Burger has further upped the “no-death meat” stakes. It stretches the limits of our scientific comprehension far beyond Quorn. The composition of this plant burger is in many respects similar to other meat lookalikes – water, protein powders, edible glues, factory flavourings, synthetic vitamins – but it is distinguished by its trailblazing use of soy leghemoglobin (SLH), a vat-grown, genetically engineered form of the heme iron found in the root nodules of soya bean plants. Impossible Foods says this novel ingredient gives the Impossible Burger its “bloody”, meat-like taste and colour.
The US Food and Drug Administration’s view in August 2015 was that “the current arguments at hand, individually and collectively, were not enough to establish the safety of SLH for consumption”. Nevertheless, since it was not explicitly ruled unsafe, the Impossible Burger is on sale in restaurants all over the US."
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2018/feb/12/quorn-revolution-rise-ultra-processed-fake-meat (https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2018/feb/12/quorn-revolution-rise-ultra-processed-fake-meat)
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"mostly vegan" is an expressioned used by people who are also "mostly heterosexual"
Good point, to avoid being considered more gay than I am, i'll refer to diet as... "low-meat" ???
So does vegan mean eating no animal products but eating anything else you want?
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What are you getting at?
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Yes, sir. Farmers of fruits and veggies grown organically have to follow a guideline of organic-approved pesticides . Some of those pesticides are also used in conventially grown produce. A good amount of pesticide residue can still be found on organic produce because they’re typically sprayed more often. I’m in South Florida which grows a ton of veggies for the US where it’s freezing all over the rest of the country, and if we tried to grow crops without pesticides, it wouldn’t produce a consumable piece of fruit. I need the majority of people think organic=zero chemicals which isn’t the case.
Lol love the avatar! The grass stained white schmoe kicks!!!
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I wouldn't know how to eat purely vegan. Describe breakfast, lunch and dinner. Sounds like it would get really boring quick.
this is why people are fat and unhealthy
the purpose of eating is survival and being healthy, not pleasure
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If you feel good and look good thats great, hell Floyd Mayweather went 50-0 and that dude eats fuckin TacoBell and fast food everyday, and can train like a madman. But obviously OP must of had a reason to go vegan, so just interested in how it's changed his health/well being.
Organic I believe people buy it because they don't want to eat fruits and veggies with pesticides. Meats with hormones and antibiotics, however the healthiest foods are coincidentally the most expensive and the worst foods for you seem to be the cheapest. Weird stuff.
as i keep fucking saying diet means absoultey nothing it's just fucking calories
oh, and adullis did not come up with this shit, AJ said it nearly 50 fucking years ago
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as i keep fucking saying diet means absoultey nothing it's just fucking calories
oh, and adullis did not come up with this shit, AJ said it nearly 50 fucking years ago
and as usual you are wrong
try consuming 2800 cals a day of just palm oil , see how you look after 3 months
You need protein carbs and fats to make up your calories, I agree that once you have met your daily nutritional requirements then anything else is just calories.
Its not just cals in cals out.
Although at the end of the day we are all just eating carbon hydrogen and oxygen with amino acids thrown in
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and as usual you are wrong
try consuming 2800 cals a day of just palm oil , see how you look after 3 months
You need protein carbs and fats to make up your calories, I agree that once you have met your daily nutritional requirements then anything else is just calories.
Its not just cals in cals out.
Although at the end of the day we are all just eating carbon hydrogen and oxygen with amino acids thrown in
Fair enough
Pro requirements are .36 grams per pound according to AJ, could be right actually...
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Lol love the avatar! The grass stained white schmoe kicks!!!
Thanks man! I still want them back from Denise. In mint condition of course (w/ grass stains)
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Fair enough
Pro requirements are .36 grams per pound according to AJ, could be right actually...
I'm doing 2 grams per pound, seems to be working, although breaking it up in to 7 meals a day now seems to have increased my metabolism even more, I'm getting leaner, must be the thermic effect of eating that Milos talks about.
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I'm doing 2 grams per month
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