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Liberal vermin every last one of them...
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/byron-york-comey-told-congress-fbi-agents-didnt-think-michael-flynn-lied/article/2648896
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well based on this news article, I'm ready to conclude Flynn was railroaded!
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Liberal vermin every last one of them...
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/byron-york-comey-told-congress-fbi-agents-didnt-think-michael-flynn-lied/article/2648896
Something is rotten in the state of Denmark.
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Something is rotten in the state of Denmark.
Or, and this is just a wild thesis, don't even pay it attention.. this article is based on third person allegations and speculation. I didn't say it, but people say it. Now it may come out eventually as true, but just based on this article.. not really inspiring
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Or, and this is just a wild thesis, don't even pay it attention.. this article is based on third person allegations and speculation. I didn't say it, but people say it. Now it may come out eventually as true, but just based on this article.. not really inspiring
Really? You're being suckered by rampant conspiracies involving Trump and Russia, and you're concerned about "third person allegations and speculation"??
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Really? You're being suckered by rampant conspiracies involving Trump and Russia, and you're concerned about "third person allegations and speculation"??
Not being suckered. My stand on the Trump Russia thing is let the investigation run it's course. May not be anything there when all is said and done. Might be something there. I don't know
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Not being suckered. My stand on the Trump Russia thing is let the investigation run it's course. May not be anything there when all is said and done. Might be something there. I don't know
For how long? How many tax dollars wasted to get nothing in return? At what point, after the millions of dollars already wasted, do we as taxpayers ask What The Fuck?
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For how long? How many tax dollars wasted to get nothing in return? At what point, after the millions of dollars already wasted, do we as taxpayers ask What The Fuck?
The same amount of time as it would take if it were a Democrat being investigated for possible collusion with the Russian Government. As long as it takes to run a thorough investigation. What's it going to cost, 2 golfing trips?
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The same amount of time as it would take if it were a Democrat being investigated for possible collusion with the Russian Government. As long as it takes to run a thorough investigation. What's it going to cost, 2 golfing trips?
Maybe if the corrupt fbi wasn't wasting time and money with a fake investigation of trump, they might have prevented the shooting in Florida.
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Not being suckered. My stand on the Trump Russia thing is let the investigation run it's course. May not be anything there when all is said and done. Might be something there. I don't know
What other than "third person allegations and speculation" makes you think Trump might have conspired with Russia to win the presidential election so he could become a Russian puppet?
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For how long? How many tax dollars wasted to get nothing in return? At what point, after the millions of dollars already wasted, do we as taxpayers ask What The Fuck?
I think we should be willing to spend at least 25 billion
same amount of money that Trump wants from American tax payers for his retarded wall
We'll just pretend we're going to get the 25 billion from Russia just like Trump is pretending he's going to get 25 billion from Mexico
That should be satisfactory to Trumptards
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Liberal vermin every last one of them...
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/byron-york-comey-told-congress-fbi-agents-didnt-think-michael-flynn-lied/article/2648896
What the FBI thinks is meaningless until it can be proved (validated). If Flynn didn't lie to the FBI, why did he plead guilty to doing so? It appears now that Comey was mistaken.
Knowing what we know now about the criminal aspects of lying to the FBI, if you were questioned by FBI agents, would you tell the truth or lie?
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Really? You're being suckered by rampant conspiracies involving Trump and Russia, and you're concerned about "third person allegations and speculation"??
Maybe some folks are "suckered" by media insinuations/accusations regarding conspiracy and obstruction of justice. It does keep the public following the media, but until something is proved, it is merely speculation. No matter which side you listen to, they are simply "talking heads" and nothing more at this point. Both the liberal and the conservative media say some very outrageous things. It is good to keep an open mind, while speculating about the truth. We have opinions and they should be identified as such. An opinion is not an indictment.
What you think and what I think is meaningless when it comes right down to it. For example, I suspect OJ killed Nicole and Ron Goldman. He was found innocent of the crime in criminal court and that ends up being what counts.
Ever served on a jury? I have a few times and it's not necessarily easy to come to a verdict based on testimony and attorney arguments. One time, we the jury believed the offender was guilty off a DUII, but the prosecution failed to prove their case, so we had no choice but to find the defendant innocent.
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What other than "third person allegations and speculation" makes you think Trump might have conspired with Russia to win the presidential election so he could become a Russian puppet?
Legally -- nothing yet or maybe ever. I do have trouble with people who lie. Trump has contradicted himself on much lesser issues which shows him to be either very stupid or a lier.
Frankly, it is more significant to me to know whether Russia has ever meddled in our election process than it is that Trump could be somehow be involved. Mid terms are around the corner. Will Russia meddle in that election and if they do, will we ever know it for sure? Presidents come and go. Russia's been a threat for as long as I can remember.
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Maybe if the corrupt fbi wasn't wasting time and money with a fake investigation of trump, they might have prevented the shooting in Florida.
How so?
I believe you are more intelligent than this ridiculous post of yours indicates.
What might have reduced the casualty count is if the general public did not have such easy access to automatic weapons, such the AR-15 this 19 year old, nut case shooter used.
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Maybe some folks are "suckered" by media insinuations/accusations regarding conspiracy and obstruction of justice. It does keep the public following the media, but until something is proved, it is merely speculation. No matter which side you listen to, they are simply "talking heads" and nothing more at this point. Both the liberal and the conservative media say some very outrageous things. It is good to keep an open mind, while speculating about the truth. We have opinions and they should be identified as such. An opinion is not an indictment.
What you think and what I think is meaningless when it comes right down to it. For example, I suspect OJ killed Nicole and Ron Goldman. He was found innocent of the crime in criminal court and that ends up being what counts.
Ever served on a jury? I have a few times and it's not necessarily easy to come to a verdict based on testimony and attorney arguments. One time, we the jury believed the offender was guilty off a DUII, but the prosecution failed to prove their case, so we had no choice but to find the defendant innocent.
I agree to a certain extent. Not all opinions could or should be treated the same. Having in an opinion that OJ is guilty (he is) is an opinion supported by a lot of facts. Having an opinion that Trump conspired with Russia, beginning eight years ago, to become president so he could become a Russian puppet isn't supported by anything.
And regarding guilty or innocence, sometimes the system gets it wrong (e.g., O.J.).
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I agree to a certain extent. Not all opinions could or should be treated the same. Having in an opinion that OJ is guilty (he is) is an opinion supported by a lot of facts. Having an opinion that Trump conspired with Russia, beginning eight years ago, to become president so he could become a Russian puppet isn't supported by anything.
And regarding guilty or innocence, sometimes the system gets it wrong (e.g., O.J.).
Yes the system does sometimes get "it" wrong. Until we come up with something better, this system is the best we have.
Did Robert Wagner kill his wife, Natality Wood on the boat that night many years ago on the coastline of Catalina Island? If he did, will we ever know for sure? How do you know that this conspiracy theory isn't supported by anything? Do you have contacts within the FBI or the CIA?
We can talk about these things all we want. People have always speculated about stuff they don't know for sure. It's human nature. Speculation usually changes nothing, thank goodness.
I'm not sure how you or anyone else can know whether there is or isn't anything to support this opinion about a Trump - Russia conspiracy. Do you have a some manner of inside tract?
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Legally -- nothing yet or maybe ever. I do have trouble with people who lie. Trump has contradicted himself on much lesser issues which shows him to be either very stupid or a lier.
Frankly, it is more significant to me to know whether Russia has ever meddled in our election process than it is that Trump could be somehow be involved. Mid terms are around the corner. Will Russia meddle in that election and if they do, will we ever know it for sure? Presidents come and go. Russia's been a threat for as long as I can remember.
Russia, like the U.S., has been "meddling" in elections all over the world for years. What I haven't seen is any credible evidence that "meddling" impacted the election outcome.
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Yes the system does sometimes get "it" wrong. Until we come up with something better, this system is the best we have.
Did Robert Wagner kill his wife, Natality Wood on the boat that night many years ago on the coastline of Catalina Island? If he did, will we ever know for sure? How do you know that this conspiracy theory isn't supported by anything? Do you have contacts within the FBI or the CIA?
We can talk about these things all we want. People have always speculated about stuff they don't know for sure. It's human nature. Speculation usually changes nothing, thank goodness.
I'm not sure how you or anyone else can know whether there is or isn't anything to support this opinion about a Trump - Russia conspiracy. Do you have a some manner of inside tract?
I have common sense. I know how to read. I'm not blinded by hatred or partisanship. If you have those qualities, it's incredibly easy to see this Russia conspiracy theory is stupid.
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I have common sense. I know how to read. I'm not blinded by hatred or partisanship. If you have those qualities, it's incredibly easy to see this Russia conspiracy theory is stupid.
I don't know. Trumps team seems to have a lot of ties to Russia. Could be completely coincidence. Trump requested the Russians to meddle in our election on national TV. Members of his party met with a representative in Trump towers and seemed to lie about it. You could be right, it could be nothing, but let's see what the investigation, which has netted a couple guilty pleas already, turns up.
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I have common sense. I know how to read. I'm not blinded by hatred or partisanship. If you have those qualities, it's incredibly easy to see this Russia conspiracy theory is stupid.
LOL
Then why don't you explain why it's so stupid so the rest of us will understand it
Then you'll look like a genius when Mueller wraps up his investigation by telling us it was all so easy to see that there was really nothing there
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I think we should be willing to spend at least 25 billion
same amount of money that Trump wants from American tax payers for his retarded wall
We'll just pretend we're going to get the 25 billion from Russia just like Trump is pretending he's going to get 25 billion from Mexico
That should be satisfactory to Trumptards
Weird how you're ok with spending 25 billion on a goose chase but not to secure the borders. :-\
How so?
I believe you are more intelligent than this ridiculous post of yours indicates.
What might have reduced the casualty count is if the general public did not have such easy access to automatic weapons, such the AR-15 this 19 year old, nut case shooter used.
Automatic weapons have been banned for civilian ownership for decades. Turn off the tv and do some research on the subject.
A better way for you to spend your retirement years would be to protest and speak out against the medical industry that is doping up kids at an alarming rate.
LOL
Then why don't you explain why it's so stupid so the rest of us will understand it
Then you'll look like a genius when Mueller wraps up his investigation by telling us it was all so easy to see that there was really nothing there
Mueller should be in the defense seat, guy is as crooked as the Clintons and should be prosecuted as a traitor to this country.
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Weird how you're ok with spending 25 billion on a goose chase but not to secure the borders. :-\
Automatic weapons have been banned for civilian ownership for decades. Turn off the tv and do some research on the subject.
A better way for you to spend your retirement years would be to protest and speak out against the medical industry that is doping up kids at an alarming rate.
Mueller should be in the defense seat, guy is as crooked as the Clintons and should be prosecuted as a traitor to this country.
So now Meuller is crooked? What is your criteria for being crooked?
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I don't know. Trumps team seems to have a lot of ties to Russia. Could be completely coincidence. Trump requested the Russians to meddle in our election on national TV. Members of his party met with a representative in Trump towers and seemed to lie about it. You could be right, it could be nothing, but let's see what the investigation, which has netted a couple guilty pleas already, turns up.
Seriously? Stringing together unrelated, lawful events, jokes, etc. to support this ridiculous conspiracy theory? You should say some of this stuff out loud so you hear how crazy it sounds.
But that's precisely how loony conspiracy theories work. There is no difference between the faked moon landing conspiracy (ironically started by Russia I recently learned), 9-11 Troofers, and this Russia conspiracy theory.
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Seriously? Stringing together unrelated, lawful events, jokes, etc. to support this ridiculous conspiracy theory? You should say some of this stuff out loud so you hear how crazy it sounds.
But that's precisely how loony conspiracy theories work. There is no difference between the faked moon landing conspiracy (ironically started by Russia I recently learned), 9-11 Troofers, and this Russia conspiracy theory.
Dos, I like you. I just disagree with you on this. I think there was enough there, as did Congress, to justify an investigation. I hope it turns out great for our President, but lets wait and see.
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Weird how you're ok with spending 25 billion on a goose chase but not to secure the borders. :-\
Automatic weapons have been banned for civilian ownership for decades. Turn off the tv and do some research on the subject.
A better way for you to spend your retirement years would be to protest and speak out against the medical industry that is doping up kids at an alarming rate.
Mueller should be in the defense seat, guy is as crooked as the Clintons and should be prosecuted as a traitor to this country.
Sorry, I wasn't aware you were this much of a schmuck
OK, how about we spend the same amount of time and money that Congress spent investigating Hillary
Is that more reasonable to your total lack of sarcasm?
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Dos, I like you. I just disagree with you on this. I think there was enough there, as did Congress, to justify an investigation. I hope it turns out great for our President, but lets wait and see.
Bruh, you haven't been paying attention to the details. I know you are a smart guy, although you really are suffering from Trump Derangement Syndrome (as are many good people I know). They used the dossier to start the investigation. The dossier was paid for by Hillary and the DNC. The person who compiled the information is not only a foreigner, but got some of his information from Russian agents. The core allegations (if you care to read them) are beyond absurd.
You are staying on the surface because if you get into the details this thing makes no dang sense. You just want it to be true because you hate Trump so much.
You should try taking him out of the equation and place a generic person at the center of this. It's crazy.
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Bruh, you haven't been paying attention to the details. I know you are a smart guy, although you really are suffering from Trump Derangement Syndrome (as are many good people I know). They used the dossier to start the investigation. The dossier was paid for by Hillary and the DNC. The person who compiled the information is not only a foreigner, but got some of his information from Russian agents. The core allegations (if you care to read them) are beyond absurd.
You are staying on the surface because if you get into the details this thing makes no dang sense. You just want it to be true because you hate Trump so much.
You should try taking him out of the equation and place a generic person at the center of this. It's crazy.
Let me stop you right there. That's not accurate. Never has been. You must have swallowed the Republicans memo without really looking at all the information. SO lets just let the investigation conclude and the chips fall where they may
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Dos, I like you. I just disagree with you on this. I think there was enough there, as did Congress, to justify an investigation. I hope it turns out great for our President, but lets wait and see.
Bum has ZERO info on what the Congressional investigation has seen (Schiff has said they have seen evidence of collusion) much less what Mueller knows and can prove
But of course Bum is not "not blinded by hatred or partisanship" so his view of things is pure as the driven snow so he really has the better understanding of the facts (even the ones he doesn't know)
that's just how things work when you're not "blinded by hatred or partisanship"
you're able to see things in higher dimensions
it's a rare gift
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Let me stop you right there. That's not accurate. Never has been. You must have swallowed the Republicans memo without really looking at all the information. SO lets just let the investigation conclude and the chips fall where they may
It's accurate, as was the House Intel Committee memo, which the FBI reviewed and could not point to any factual inaccuracies. It's not in dispute that Hillary and DNC paid over $10 million for that dossier.
This whole thing is a farce. And that's without even talking about the agents involved in the investigation, unmasking, etc. The amount of corruption involved in this thing is unprecedented in my lifetime.
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It's accurate, as was the House Intel Committee memo, which the FBI reviewed and could not point to any factual inaccuracies. It's not in dispute that Hillary and DNC paid over $10 million for that dossier.
This whole thing is a farce. And that's without even talking about the agents involved in the investigation, unmasking, etc. The amount of corruption involved in this thing is unprecedented in my lifetime.
I'm guessing they can't talk about the specifics in public for the exact same reason Trump won't release the Dem memo
good thing you have the clarity of vision to "not blinded by hatred or partisanship"
“With regard to the House Intelligence Committee’s memorandum, the FBI was provided a limited opportunity to review this memo the day before the committee voted to release it,” the statement said. “As expressed during our initial review, we have grave concerns about material omissions of fact that fundamentally impact the memo’s accuracy.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/with-fbi-statement-on-memo-christopher-wray-could-now-be-in-the-presidents-crosshairs/2018/01/31/01fcbfd6-06ad-11e8-94e8-e8b8600ade23_story.html?utm_term=.41412be6f27a
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Not being suckered. My stand on the Trump Russia thing is let the investigation run it's course. May not be anything there when all is said and done. Might be something there. I don't know
Like a perjury trap?
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Like a perjury trap?
wow
Is it even possible to avoid that trap?
what is the secret to that riddle?
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Sorry, I wasn't aware you were this much of a schmuck
OK, how about we spend the same amount of time and money that Congress spent investigating Hillary
Is that more reasonable to your total lack of sarcasm?
killary and bill have actual political and personal gains and connections to russia, as does the corrupt Mueller.
He should be fired and replaced.
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killary and bill have actual political and personal gains and connections to russia, as does the corrupt Mueller.
He should be fired and replaced.
Chaos= Russian bot
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Obama advisers grew suspicious that perhaps there had been a secret deal between the incoming [Trump] team and Moscow
Little Hussien the dumb ass from kenya
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I have common sense. I know how to read. I'm not blinded by hatred or partisanship. If you have those qualities, it's incredibly easy to see this Russia conspiracy theory is stupid.
Knowing how to read is good. What is your choice of reading material?
I have those same qualities and yet my conclusion about Russian interference and possible conspiracy is pretty much the opposite of what you believe. Interesting. Time will likely reveal whether this theory is stupid or not.
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Mueller should be in the defense seat, guy is as crooked as the Clintons and should be prosecuted as a traitor to this country.
Can you cite your source please or is Mueller being crooked just your opinion? Don't you mean prosecuted as a traitor to Trump?
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Can you cite your source please or is Mueller being crooked just your opinion? Don't you mean prosecuted as a traitor to Trump?
Are you going senile? It's no secret Mueller has been a Clinton puppet for years.
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Are you going senile? It's no secret Mueller has been a Clinton puppet for years.
Especially if you watch Hannity, Listen to Rush and are a Trump supporter..Jezzzus! People from both parties have sung the praise of Mueller. Not a single leak from his staff as he conducts the investigation. But yeah, go ahead and puppet Hannity and disregard reality... you really are losing any credibility you had..
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Especially if you watch Hannity, Listen to Rush and are a Trump supporter..Jezzzus! People from both parties have sung the praise of Mueller. Not a single leak from his staff as he conducts the investigation. But yeah, go ahead and puppet Hannity and disregard reality... you really are losing any credibility you had..
Don't watch Hannity. Do some simple google on muellers past and comnection with the clintons. Or close your eyes and keep chanting whatever your liberal owned media tells you to. Makes no difference to me.
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Don't watch Hannity. Do some simple google on muellers past and comnection with the clintons. Or close your eyes and keep chanting whatever your liberal owned media tells you to. Makes no difference to me.
I have. and there is no reason to doubt Mueller at this point. That's why I think you are drinking the kool aid
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Especially if you watch Hannity, Listen to Rush and are a Trump supporter..Jezzzus! People from both parties have sung the praise of Mueller. Not a single leak from his staff as he conducts the investigation. But yeah, go ahead and puppet Hannity and disregard reality... you really are losing any credibility you had..
Yup apart from:
1) Withholds exculpatory evidence on more than one occasion apart from Flynn
2) Builds a bias team full of Clinton supporters
3) He was part of the shady uranium deal
Facts moron.
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Knowing how to read is good. What is your choice of reading material?
I have those same qualities and yet my conclusion about Russian interference and possible conspiracy is pretty much the opposite of what you believe. Interesting. Time will likely reveal whether this theory is stupid or not.
For political news? Fox News, CNN, Newsmax, Huffington Post, Daily Caller, The Hill, Real Clear Politics, Drudge, Breitbart, Politico, and others.
What specific facts form the basis of your belief that Trump conspired with Russia to win the presidential election so he could become a Russian puppet?