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Re: Comey told Congress FBI agents didn't think Michael Flynn lied
« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2018, 03:23:54 PM »
well based on this news article, I'm ready to conclude Flynn was railroaded!

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Re: Comey told Congress FBI agents didn't think Michael Flynn lied
« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2018, 08:43:33 PM »
Something is rotten in the state of Denmark.

Or, and this is just a wild thesis, don't even pay it attention.. this article is based on third person allegations and speculation. I didn't say it, but people say it. Now it may come out eventually as true, but just based on this article.. not really inspiring 

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Re: Comey told Congress FBI agents didn't think Michael Flynn lied
« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2018, 08:50:20 PM »
Or, and this is just a wild thesis, don't even pay it attention.. this article is based on third person allegations and speculation. I didn't say it, but people say it. Now it may come out eventually as true, but just based on this article.. not really inspiring 

Really?  You're being suckered by rampant conspiracies involving Trump and Russia, and you're concerned about "third person allegations and speculation"?? 

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Re: Comey told Congress FBI agents didn't think Michael Flynn lied
« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2018, 09:30:49 PM »
Really?  You're being suckered by rampant conspiracies involving Trump and Russia, and you're concerned about "third person allegations and speculation"?? 

Not being suckered. My stand on the Trump Russia thing is let the investigation run it's course. May not be anything there when all is said and done. Might be something there. I don't know

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Re: Comey told Congress FBI agents didn't think Michael Flynn lied
« Reply #6 on: February 14, 2018, 09:33:03 PM »
Not being suckered. My stand on the Trump Russia thing is let the investigation run it's course. May not be anything there when all is said and done. Might be something there. I don't know
For how long? How many tax dollars wasted to get nothing in return? At what point, after the millions of dollars already wasted, do we as taxpayers ask What The Fuck?
Liar!!!!Filt!!!!

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Re: Comey told Congress FBI agents didn't think Michael Flynn lied
« Reply #7 on: February 14, 2018, 09:35:17 PM »
For how long? How many tax dollars wasted to get nothing in return? At what point, after the millions of dollars already wasted, do we as taxpayers ask What The Fuck?

The same amount of time as it would take if it were a Democrat being investigated for possible collusion with the Russian Government. As long as it takes to run a thorough investigation. What's it going to cost, 2 golfing trips?

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Re: Comey told Congress FBI agents didn't think Michael Flynn lied
« Reply #8 on: February 15, 2018, 12:01:33 PM »
The same amount of time as it would take if it were a Democrat being investigated for possible collusion with the Russian Government. As long as it takes to run a thorough investigation. What's it going to cost, 2 golfing trips?
Maybe if the corrupt fbi wasn't wasting time and money with a fake investigation of trump, they might have prevented the shooting in Florida.
Liar!!!!Filt!!!!

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Re: Comey told Congress FBI agents didn't think Michael Flynn lied
« Reply #9 on: February 15, 2018, 12:23:57 PM »
Not being suckered. My stand on the Trump Russia thing is let the investigation run it's course. May not be anything there when all is said and done. Might be something there. I don't know

What other than "third person allegations and speculation" makes you think Trump might have conspired with Russia to win the presidential election so he could become a Russian puppet? 

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Re: Comey told Congress FBI agents didn't think Michael Flynn lied
« Reply #10 on: February 15, 2018, 04:17:17 PM »
For how long? How many tax dollars wasted to get nothing in return? At what point, after the millions of dollars already wasted, do we as taxpayers ask What The Fuck?

I think we should be willing to spend at least 25 billion

same amount of money that Trump wants from American tax payers for his retarded wall

We'll just pretend we're going to get the 25 billion from Russia just like Trump is pretending he's going to get 25 billion from Mexico

That should be satisfactory to Trumptards


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Re: Comey told Congress FBI agents didn't think Michael Flynn lied
« Reply #11 on: February 15, 2018, 04:26:31 PM »
Liberal vermin every last one of them...


http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/byron-york-comey-told-congress-fbi-agents-didnt-think-michael-flynn-lied/article/2648896

What the FBI thinks is meaningless until it can be proved (validated). If Flynn didn't lie to the FBI, why did he plead guilty to doing so? It appears now that Comey was mistaken.

Knowing what we know now about the criminal aspects of lying to the FBI, if you were questioned by FBI agents, would you tell the truth or lie?

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Re: Comey told Congress FBI agents didn't think Michael Flynn lied
« Reply #12 on: February 15, 2018, 04:47:07 PM »
Really?  You're being suckered by rampant conspiracies involving Trump and Russia, and you're concerned about "third person allegations and speculation"?? 

Maybe some folks are "suckered" by media insinuations/accusations regarding conspiracy and obstruction of justice. It does keep the public following the media, but until something is proved, it is merely speculation. No matter which side you listen to, they are simply "talking heads" and nothing more at this point. Both the liberal and the conservative media say some very outrageous things. It is good to keep an open mind, while speculating about the truth. We have opinions and they should be identified as such. An opinion is not an indictment.

What you think and what I think is meaningless when it comes right down to it. For example, I suspect OJ killed Nicole and Ron Goldman. He was found innocent of the crime in criminal court and that ends up being what counts.

Ever served on a jury? I have a few times and it's not necessarily easy to come to a verdict based on testimony and attorney arguments. One time, we the jury believed the offender was guilty off a DUII, but the prosecution failed to prove their case, so we had no choice but to find the defendant innocent.

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Re: Comey told Congress FBI agents didn't think Michael Flynn lied
« Reply #13 on: February 15, 2018, 04:57:14 PM »
What other than "third person allegations and speculation" makes you think Trump might have conspired with Russia to win the presidential election so he could become a Russian puppet? 

Legally -- nothing yet or maybe ever. I do have trouble with people who lie. Trump has contradicted himself on much lesser issues which shows him to be either very stupid or a lier.

Frankly, it is more significant to me to know whether Russia has ever meddled in our election process than it is that Trump could be somehow be involved. Mid terms are around the corner. Will Russia meddle in that election and if they do, will we ever know it for sure? Presidents come and go. Russia's been a threat for as long as I can remember.

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Re: Comey told Congress FBI agents didn't think Michael Flynn lied
« Reply #14 on: February 15, 2018, 04:58:07 PM »
Maybe if the corrupt fbi wasn't wasting time and money with a fake investigation of trump, they might have prevented the shooting in Florida.

How so?

I believe you are more intelligent than this ridiculous post of yours indicates.

What might have reduced the casualty count is if the general public did not have such easy access to automatic weapons, such the AR-15 this 19 year old, nut case shooter used.

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Re: Comey told Congress FBI agents didn't think Michael Flynn lied
« Reply #15 on: February 15, 2018, 05:00:32 PM »
Maybe some folks are "suckered" by media insinuations/accusations regarding conspiracy and obstruction of justice. It does keep the public following the media, but until something is proved, it is merely speculation. No matter which side you listen to, they are simply "talking heads" and nothing more at this point. Both the liberal and the conservative media say some very outrageous things. It is good to keep an open mind, while speculating about the truth. We have opinions and they should be identified as such. An opinion is not an indictment.

What you think and what I think is meaningless when it comes right down to it. For example, I suspect OJ killed Nicole and Ron Goldman. He was found innocent of the crime in criminal court and that ends up being what counts.

Ever served on a jury? I have a few times and it's not necessarily easy to come to a verdict based on testimony and attorney arguments. One time, we the jury believed the offender was guilty off a DUII, but the prosecution failed to prove their case, so we had no choice but to find the defendant innocent.

I agree to a certain extent.  Not all opinions could or should be treated the same.  Having in an opinion that OJ is guilty (he is) is an opinion supported by a lot of facts.  Having an opinion that Trump conspired with Russia, beginning eight years ago, to become president so he could become a Russian puppet isn't supported by anything. 

And regarding guilty or innocence, sometimes the system gets it wrong (e.g., O.J.). 

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Re: Comey told Congress FBI agents didn't think Michael Flynn lied
« Reply #16 on: February 15, 2018, 05:18:19 PM »
I agree to a certain extent.  Not all opinions could or should be treated the same.  Having in an opinion that OJ is guilty (he is) is an opinion supported by a lot of facts.  Having an opinion that Trump conspired with Russia, beginning eight years ago, to become president so he could become a Russian puppet isn't supported by anything. 

And regarding guilty or innocence, sometimes the system gets it wrong (e.g., O.J.). 

Yes the system does sometimes get "it" wrong. Until we come up with something better, this system is the best we have.

Did Robert Wagner kill his wife, Natality Wood on the boat that night many years ago on the coastline of Catalina Island? If he did, will we ever know for sure? How do you know that this conspiracy theory isn't supported by anything? Do you have contacts within the FBI or the CIA?

We can talk about these things all we want. People have always speculated about stuff they don't know for sure. It's human nature. Speculation usually changes nothing, thank goodness.

I'm not sure how you or anyone else can know whether there is or isn't anything to support this opinion about a Trump - Russia conspiracy. Do you have a some manner of inside tract?

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Re: Comey told Congress FBI agents didn't think Michael Flynn lied
« Reply #17 on: February 15, 2018, 05:24:15 PM »
Legally -- nothing yet or maybe ever. I do have trouble with people who lie. Trump has contradicted himself on much lesser issues which shows him to be either very stupid or a lier.

Frankly, it is more significant to me to know whether Russia has ever meddled in our election process than it is that Trump could be somehow be involved. Mid terms are around the corner. Will Russia meddle in that election and if they do, will we ever know it for sure? Presidents come and go. Russia's been a threat for as long as I can remember.

Russia, like the U.S., has been "meddling" in elections all over the world for years.  What I haven't seen is any credible evidence that "meddling" impacted the election outcome.

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Re: Comey told Congress FBI agents didn't think Michael Flynn lied
« Reply #18 on: February 15, 2018, 05:28:00 PM »
Yes the system does sometimes get "it" wrong. Until we come up with something better, this system is the best we have.

Did Robert Wagner kill his wife, Natality Wood on the boat that night many years ago on the coastline of Catalina Island? If he did, will we ever know for sure? How do you know that this conspiracy theory isn't supported by anything? Do you have contacts within the FBI or the CIA?

We can talk about these things all we want. People have always speculated about stuff they don't know for sure. It's human nature. Speculation usually changes nothing, thank goodness.

I'm not sure how you or anyone else can know whether there is or isn't anything to support this opinion about a Trump - Russia conspiracy. Do you have a some manner of inside tract?

I have common sense.  I know how to read.  I'm not blinded by hatred or partisanship.  If you have those qualities, it's incredibly easy to see this Russia conspiracy theory is stupid.

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Re: Comey told Congress FBI agents didn't think Michael Flynn lied
« Reply #19 on: February 15, 2018, 06:18:09 PM »
I have common sense.  I know how to read.  I'm not blinded by hatred or partisanship.  If you have those qualities, it's incredibly easy to see this Russia conspiracy theory is stupid.

I don't know. Trumps team seems to have a lot of ties to Russia. Could be completely coincidence. Trump requested the Russians to meddle in our election on national TV. Members of his party met with a representative in Trump towers and seemed to lie about it. You could be right, it could be nothing, but let's see what the investigation, which has netted a couple guilty pleas already, turns up.

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Re: Comey told Congress FBI agents didn't think Michael Flynn lied
« Reply #20 on: February 15, 2018, 06:28:06 PM »
I have common sense.  I know how to read.  I'm not blinded by hatred or partisanship.  If you have those qualities, it's incredibly easy to see this Russia conspiracy theory is stupid.

LOL

Then why don't you explain why it's so stupid so the rest of us will understand it

Then you'll look like a genius when Mueller wraps up his investigation by telling us it was all so easy to see that there was really nothing there


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Re: Comey told Congress FBI agents didn't think Michael Flynn lied
« Reply #21 on: February 15, 2018, 07:02:37 PM »
I think we should be willing to spend at least 25 billion

same amount of money that Trump wants from American tax payers for his retarded wall

We'll just pretend we're going to get the 25 billion from Russia just like Trump is pretending he's going to get 25 billion from Mexico

That should be satisfactory to Trumptards


Weird how you're ok with spending 25 billion on a goose chase but not to secure the borders. :-\

How so?

I believe you are more intelligent than this ridiculous post of yours indicates.

What might have reduced the casualty count is if the general public did not have such easy access to automatic weapons, such the AR-15 this 19 year old, nut case shooter used.
Automatic weapons have been banned for civilian ownership for decades. Turn off the tv and do some research on the subject.
A better way for you to spend your retirement years would be to protest and speak out against the medical industry that is doping up kids at an alarming rate.

LOL

Then why don't you explain why it's so stupid so the rest of us will understand it

Then you'll look like a genius when Mueller wraps up his investigation by telling us it was all so easy to see that there was really nothing there


Mueller should be in the defense seat, guy is as crooked as the Clintons and should be prosecuted as a traitor to this country.
Liar!!!!Filt!!!!

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Re: Comey told Congress FBI agents didn't think Michael Flynn lied
« Reply #22 on: February 15, 2018, 07:03:43 PM »
Weird how you're ok with spending 25 billion on a goose chase but not to secure the borders. :-\
Automatic weapons have been banned for civilian ownership for decades. Turn off the tv and do some research on the subject.
A better way for you to spend your retirement years would be to protest and speak out against the medical industry that is doping up kids at an alarming rate.
Mueller should be in the defense seat, guy is as crooked as the Clintons and should be prosecuted as a traitor to this country.

So now Meuller is crooked? What is your criteria for being crooked?

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Re: Comey told Congress FBI agents didn't think Michael Flynn lied
« Reply #23 on: February 15, 2018, 07:11:10 PM »
I don't know. Trumps team seems to have a lot of ties to Russia. Could be completely coincidence. Trump requested the Russians to meddle in our election on national TV. Members of his party met with a representative in Trump towers and seemed to lie about it. You could be right, it could be nothing, but let's see what the investigation, which has netted a couple guilty pleas already, turns up.

Seriously?  Stringing together unrelated, lawful events, jokes, etc. to support this ridiculous conspiracy theory?  You should say some of this stuff out loud so you hear how crazy it sounds. 

But that's precisely how loony conspiracy theories work.  There is no difference between the faked moon landing conspiracy (ironically started by Russia I recently learned), 9-11 Troofers, and this Russia conspiracy theory. 

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Re: Comey told Congress FBI agents didn't think Michael Flynn lied
« Reply #24 on: February 15, 2018, 07:20:32 PM »
Seriously?  Stringing together unrelated, lawful events, jokes, etc. to support this ridiculous conspiracy theory?  You should say some of this stuff out loud so you hear how crazy it sounds. 

But that's precisely how loony conspiracy theories work.  There is no difference between the faked moon landing conspiracy (ironically started by Russia I recently learned), 9-11 Troofers, and this Russia conspiracy theory. 

Dos, I like you. I just disagree with you on this. I think there was enough there, as did Congress, to justify an investigation. I hope it turns out great for our President, but lets wait and see.