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This guy just now figured out that Fox News and Trumptards "dismiss facts and empirical reality to launch profoundly dishonest assaults"
That's their business model
Just like it was their business model to lecture the country on family values while at the same time paying out millions to settle multiple sexual harassment law suits against the CEO and top Newstainment spokesholes.
Fox News Analyst Quits, Calling Network a ‘Propaganda Machine’
A longtime analyst for Fox News is leaving the network, saying that he could not “in good conscience” remain with an organization that, he argued, “is now wittingly harming our system of government for profit.”
In a searing farewell note sent to colleagues on Tuesday, Ralph Peters, a Fox News strategic analyst and a retired lieutenant colonel in the United States Army, castigated the network for its coverage of President Trump and the rhetoric of its prime-time hosts.
“In my view, Fox has degenerated from providing a legitimate and much-needed outlet for conservative voices to a mere propaganda machine for a destructive and ethically ruinous administration,” Colonel Peters wrote in his message, a copy of which was obtained by The New York Times.
“Over my decade with Fox, I long was proud of the association,” he added. “Now I am ashamed.”
Without citing them by name, Colonel Peters, 65, wrote that Fox News’s prime-time anchors “dismiss facts and empirical reality to launch profoundly dishonest assaults on the F.B.I., the Justice Department, the courts, the intelligence community (in which I served) and, not least, a model public servant and genuine war hero such as Robert Mueller.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/20/business/media/fox-news-analyst-ralph-peters.html
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This guy just now figured out that Fox News and Trumptards "dismiss facts and empirical reality to launch profoundly dishonest assaults"
That's their business model
Just like it was their business model to lecture the country on family values while at the same time paying out millions to settle multiple sexual harassment law suits against the CEO and top Newstainment spokesholes.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/20/business/media/fox-news-analyst-ralph-peters.html
He voted for Hillary.
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He voted for Hillary.
That puts him in the same group as the majority of voters in this country
Why did he wait until now to quit ?
Maybe it's because of the specific things he cited in his email when he resigned yesterday
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That puts him in the same group as the majority of voters in this country
Why did he wait until now to quit ?
Maybe it's because of the specific things he cited in his email when he resigned yesterday
He is also a warmonger.
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He is also a warmonger.
interesting
how so?
Seems like that would make him simpatico with Trump
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He also calls Obama a coward.
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He also calls Obama a coward.
cool
how is he a warmonger?
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cool
how is he a warmonger?
Tucker Carlson:
Dont like Tucker? How about Cenk Uygur:
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Tucker Carlson:
Dnt like Tucker? How about Cenk Uygur:
I'm not watching a 12 minute Tucker Carlson video
Just tell me how he is a war monger or what point in the video I should watch to get this answer to your statement
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Be the change in the world you want to see.
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I'm not watching a 12 minute Tucker Carlson video
Just tell me how he is a war monger or what point in the video I should watch to get this answer to your statement
Dont like Tucker? How about Cenk Uygur:
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Dont like Tucker? How about Cenk Uygur:
again, you made a claim
I asked you to explain it
I you're unwilling or incapable of doing so just say so (I'm used to it from posters on this board)
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again, you made a claim
I asked you to explain it
I you're unwilling or incapable of doing so just say so (I'm used to it from posters on this board)
You posted a thread trashing fox news because of this guy, so you therefore have shown support of a warmonger, and as you advised Loco to use Google, you somehow cant do the same ? If you dont agree with my claim of him being a warmonger, and the 2 videos I posted, one from a Liberal, its up to you to refute it.
to quote you :
are you sure
try googling ""seth rich" Ralph peters is a warmonger"
what results do you get where you live?
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You posted a thread trashing fox news because of this guy, so you therefore have shown support of a warmonger, and as you advised Loco to use Google, you somehow cant do the same ? If you dont agree with my claim of him being a warmonger, and the 2 videos I posted, one from a Liberal, its up to you to refute it.
to quote you :
YOU'RE the one who made the war monger claim
I have no idea what YOU are referencing in that claim which is why I asked YOU to explain YOUR thoughts
If you're not willing or capable of doing so that's fine
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YOU'RE the one who made the war monger claim
I have no idea what YOU are referencing in that claim which is why I asked YOU to explain YOUR thoughts
If you're not willing or capable of doing so that's fine
Ralph Peters wrote that a nuclear first strike on on North Korea is worth the millions of dead civilians. Cenk Uygur, the host of The Young Turks, breaks down his comments. Tell us what you think in the comment section below. https://tytnetwork.com/join/ - The Young Turks:
The Young Turks:
"The moral answer to North Korea threats: Take them out!" By Ralph Peters September 4, 2017
https://nypost.com/2017/09/04/we-need-to-destroy-north-korea-before-its-too-late/
Syria
“Syria’s determination to develop nuclear weapons apes Iran’s and North Korea’s nuke programs, as well as Pakistan’s successful bid to join the club of nuclear powers … Given a choice between taking out Osama Bin Laden and his entire leadership network and eliminating renegade nuclear engineers, the latter option might do far more for our long-term security.” — Armchair General Magazine, in a column calling for regime change in four countries. written by Raph Peters
http://washingtonbabylon.com/dude-wheres-my-civil-war-and-other-greatest-hits-of-ralph-peters/
Iraq
Peters strongly supported the 2003 invasion of Iraq and the ensuing Iraq War. Defending the war from critics who claimed that Iraq was descending into civil war, he authored a March 5, 2006 piece in the New York Post, entitled "Dude, Where's My Civil War?"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ralph_Peters
Libya:
Col. Peters: Obama Libya Stance 'Mega Wimpy'
“And now, in his statement today, it was just so mega wimpy, I mean, Gadhafi is not shaking in his purple bedroom slippers tonight, I guarantee you,” said Peters, a Fox News strategic consultant.
https://www.newsmax.com/thewire/petersobamalibyastancemegawimpy/2011/02/24/id/387252/
Calling for Regime change in numerous Countries:
In a column for Armchair General Magazine, he (Ralph Peters) wrote in support of regime change in Syria, Iran and Pakistan:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ralph_Peters
need more ?
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Ralph Peters wrote that a nuclear first strike on on North Korea is worth the millions of dead civilians. Cenk Uygur, the host of The Young Turks, breaks down his comments. Tell us what you think in the comment section below. https://tytnetwork.com/join/ - The Young Turks:
The Young Turks:
"The moral answer to North Korea threats: Take them out!" By Ralph Peters September 4, 2017
https://nypost.com/2017/09/04/we-need-to-destroy-north-korea-before-its-too-late/
Syria
“Syria’s determination to develop nuclear weapons apes Iran’s and North Korea’s nuke programs, as well as Pakistan’s successful bid to join the club of nuclear powers … Given a choice between taking out Osama Bin Laden and his entire leadership network and eliminating renegade nuclear engineers, the latter option might do far more for our long-term security.” — Armchair General Magazine, in a column calling for regime change in four countries. written by Raph Peters
http://washingtonbabylon.com/dude-wheres-my-civil-war-and-other-greatest-hits-of-ralph-peters/
Iraq
Peters strongly supported the 2003 invasion of Iraq and the ensuing Iraq War. Defending the war from critics who claimed that Iraq was descending into civil war, he authored a March 5, 2006 piece in the New York Post, entitled "Dude, Where's My Civil War?"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ralph_Peters
Libya:
Col. Peters: Obama Libya Stance 'Mega Wimpy'
“And now, in his statement today, it was just so mega wimpy, I mean, Gadhafi is not shaking in his purple bedroom slippers tonight, I guarantee you,” said Peters, a Fox News strategic consultant.
https://www.newsmax.com/thewire/petersobamalibyastancemegawimpy/2011/02/24/id/387252/
Calling for Regime change in numerous Countries:
In a column for Armchair General Magazine, he (Ralph Peters) wrote in support of regime change in Syria, Iran and Pakistan:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ralph_Peters
need more ?
I'm glad you finally posted this info. I would have never known to go look for a link from Armchair General Magazine.
I agree with you that bombing North Korea and killing millions of civilians is a bad idea
I'm pretty sure Trump thinks it's a good idea since he threatened to "totally destroy" North Korea in a speech at the United Nations
Glad to hear that you and I agree that idea is fucking insane
Then again, plenty of other Republicans area in favor of that too. I think even that fruit cake Lindsey Graham said a war with North Korea would be totally worth it
As for the other statements by Peters, plenty of people in both parties were in favor of invading Iraq.
I thought it was crazy and said so at the time. Glad to know you and I also agree on that too. I honestly had no idea that you and I agreed on anything.
Sames goes for Syria, plenty of people in both parties were fine pushing regime change in that country. I've always been kind of mixed on that one. Hard to figure out if getting rid of Assad would be a good or bad thing given the Muslim nutbags in that country. Where do you stand on that one?
Seems like Peters is perfectly fine attacking other countries but for some reason draws the line when it comes to attacks on his own country or as he put it, he has an issue when an alleged "news organization" dismisses facts facts and empirical reality to launch profoundly dishonest assaults on the F.B.I., the Justice Department, the courts, the intelligence community (in which I served) and, not least, a model public servant and genuine war hero such as Robert Mueller.”
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I'm glad you finally posted this info. I would have never known to go look for a link from Armchair General Magazine.
I agree with you that bombing North Korea and killing millions of civilians is a bad idea
I'm pretty sure Trump thinks it's a good idea since he threatened to "totally destroy" North Korea in a speech at the United Nations
Glad to hear that you and I agree that idea is fucking insane
Then again, plenty of other Republicans area in favor of that too. I think even that fruit cake Lindsey Graham said a war with North Korea would be totally worth it
As for the other statements by Peters, plenty of people in both parties were in favor of Invading Iraq.
I thought it was crazy and said so at the time. Glad to know you and I also agree on that too. I honestly had no idea that you and I agreed on anything.
Seems like Peters is perfectly fine attacking other countries but for some reason draws the line when it comes to attacks on his own country or as he put it, he has an issue when an alleged "news organization" dismisses facts facts and empirical reality to launch profoundly dishonest assaults on the F.B.I., the Justice Department, the courts, the intelligence community (in which I served) and, not least, a model public servant and genuine war hero such as Robert Mueller.”
I was against Bush putting troops on the ground in Iraq, I was against Obama and Hillary's ( and McCain's) shady involvement in Libya and Syria, and I was also against Trump's recent bombing of Syria this last year.
But unlike you I have never cared for Ralph Peters, as I view him as I do Lindsey Graham (warmonger)
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I was against Bush putting troops on the ground in Iraq, I was against Obama and Hillary's ( and McCain's) shady involvement in Libya and Syria, and I was also against Trump's recent bombing of Syria this last year.
But unlike you I have never cared for Ralph Peters.
where did I say I cared for Ralph Peters
The guy was on the payroll at Faux News for years towing the party line and cashing checks
Apparently attacks against his own country were his final straw.....finally.
I don't understand why anyone still works there...other than of course the ones that love Russia and hate America. I totally understand why they still work there
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I'm glad you finally posted this info. I would have never known to go look for a link from Armchair General Magazine.
I agree with you that bombing North Korea and killing millions of civilians is a bad idea
I'm pretty sure Trump thinks it's a good idea since he threatened to "totally destroy" North Korea in a speech at the United Nations
Glad to hear that you and I agree that idea is fucking insane
You probably have more in common with others on here than you would think, and maybe should consider easing up on the name calling just a bit.
where did I say I cared for Ralph Peters
The guy was on the payroll at Faux News for years towing the party line and cashing checks
Apparently attacks against his own country were his final straw.....finally.
I don't understand why anyone still works there...other than of course the ones that love Russia and hate America. I totally understand why they still work there
During the election no one on here was calling out fox news more than me, as they were constantly trashing ted Cruz in favor of Jeb and Rubio, in fact me and Beach got in quite a few lengthy arguments debates over this subject. But for you to call out Fox and not say that CNN and MSNBC is bad is simply disingenuous.
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You probably have more in common with others on here than you would think, and maybe should consider easing up on the name calling just a bit.
During the election no one on here was calling out fox news more than me, as they were constantly trashing ted Cruz in favor of Jeb and Rubio, in fact me and Beach got in quite a few lengthily arguments debates over this subject. But for you to admit that and not say that CNN and MSNBC is bad is simply disingenuous.
I don't recall calling you any names in this thread
Again, if I ever saw CNN or MSNBC do anything like Fox News I would gladly call them out on it. Every time Fox News is mentioned it seems compulsory for people on the right (have to assume you're on the right if you like Ted Cruz) to insist that everyone must agree that CNN and MSNBC are equally as bad. They are not. Not even close
BTW - your boy Ted Cruz seems to be a big Trump sycophant now even though Trump attacked both his wife and father. Kind of amazing how craven and pussified Cruz turned out to be (ok - not really that amazing given that he's a piece of shit)
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I don't recall calling you any names in this thread
Again, if I ever saw CNN or MSNBC do anything like Fox News I would gladly call them out on it. Every time Fox News is mentioned it seems compulsory for people on the right (have to assume you're on the right if you like Ted Cruz) to insist that everyone must agree that CNN and MSNBC are equally as bad. They are not. Not even close
BTW - your boy Ted Cruz seems to be a big Trump sycophant now even though Trump attacked both his wife and father. Kind of amazing how craven and pussified Cruz turned out to be (ok - not really that amazing given that he's a piece of shit)
honestly straw you should take a break, go have a beer or 3, and relax.
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honestly straw you should take a break, go have a beer or 3, and relax.
my job is pretty tense
I come here to relax
It's a bit early for mt to have a beer but I'll be having one or both of these tonight
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It's a bit early for mt to have a beer but I'll be having one or both of these tonight
good stuff, Cheers! :)
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That puts him in the same group as the majority of voters in this country
Why did he wait until now to quit ?
Maybe it's because of the specific things he cited in his email when he resigned yesterday
She did not win a majority.
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This guy just now figured out that Fox News and Trumptards "dismiss facts and empirical reality to launch profoundly dishonest assaults"
That's their business model
Just like it was their business model to lecture the country on family values while at the same time paying out millions to settle multiple sexual harassment law suits against the CEO and top Newstainment spokesholes.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/20/business/media/fox-news-analyst-ralph-peters.html
- Fox News is staffed with hypocrites. Why is it that immoral people enjoy lecturing others on what is or isn't moral.
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She did not win a majority.
HRC officially won the popular vote by almost 3 million.
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She did not win a majority.
fair enough
she got 48.2% to Trumps 46.1%
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HRC officially won the popular vote by almost 3 million.
Meaningless. There was no popular vote contest. Plus, all of her 3 million+ vote spread comes from all those nuts in California.
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HRC officially won the popular vote by almost 3 million.
Won?
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Meaningless. There was no popular vote contest. Plus, all of her 3 million+ vote spread comes from all those nuts in California.
who gives a shit
the only reason it was even brought up is that someone claimed Ralph Peters voted for her (who knows or cares if thats even true)
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where did I say I cared for Ralph Peters
The guy was on the payroll at Faux News for years towing the party line and cashing checks
Apparently attacks against his own country were his final straw.....finally.
I don't understand why anyone still works there...other than of course the ones that love Russia and hate America. I totally understand why they still work there
Nice flip-flop there.
You should work for John Kerry.
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Nice flip-flop there.
You should work for John Kerry.
nice reading comprehension there
find the post where I said I "cared" for Peters or even said anything good about him
My first post mocks him for only just figuring out now what Faux News has been doing for years
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Yeah. ::)