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been working graveyard shift for past 10 years. it's a bitch. bouts of insomnia come and go and I've never found a good cure for it. I've tried natural and rx medication nothing works just ride it out until sleep returns. Ambien is a god aweful drug. Haven't slept in days worst case I've ever had. Any suggestions?
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- Get your bedroom as dark as possible...I mean film developing dark.
- Get your bedroom cold...
- In the bathroom, have a lamp for your sleep periods that is red or deep yellow...A lamp that is meant as an old fashioned darkroom printing safelighte is the best...something with absolutely no blue in it.
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Take a thc/cbd/melatonin edible.incredible sleep.
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Cut all caffeine / stimulants
Tough for a few weeks.. then much much better for stuff like this.
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Drink lots of alcohol until drunk
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Cut all caffeine / stimulants
Tough for a few weeks.. then much much better for stuff like this.
god damn thats gonna be tough.
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- Get your bedroom as dark as possible...I mean film developing dark.
- Get your bedroom cold...
- In the bathroom, have a lamp for your sleep periods that is red or deep yellow...A lamp that is meant as an old fashioned darkroom printing safelighte is the best...something with absolutely no blue in it.
^^^^ Listen to this guy, meaning you beckdoctor listen to sync
His intelligence level is otherworldly RESPECT
Drink lots of alcohol until drunk
See above post
I'd bet large $$$ this sync fella is of GERMANIC ancestry
BIG $$$$$$$
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Stop looking at (blue light) screens of your smartphone, laptop etc at least two hours before you want to sleep. Such screens mess up your melatonine production / release
Read a magazine with medium normal living room light, you need to be both physically and mentally calm in order to be able to sleep
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Get your old sparring partner James Toney to punch you in the temple. That ll put ya to sleep.
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In severe clinical cases, melatonin, from a a reliable source, is the way to go.
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weed
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In severe clinical cases, melatonin, from a a reliable source, is the way to go.
From a reliable source?Ive been taking melatonin for 15 years basically everyday until I run out then I take a couple weeks off.Always a different brand and it always works great 10mgs every night.
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There is NO Cure! get another job, or continue to have insomnia and all the detrimental health benefits...
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I had insomnia when I was a teenager. But I also had some serious depression. No depression = no insonmia.
Nowadays I sleep like a baby. Usually 6-7 hours and I'm fine. If I ever drink too much coke or have a cup of coffe at night, I'll be up until 3 am. Nevertheless, 2 sessions of masturbation will knock me out.
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I take hot showers before bed and keep my bedroom cool. Something about the rapid change of body temperature from hot to cold makes people fall asleep.
It works and there is science behind it but I just don't know where to find it. I get insomnia all the time and this works like a charm.
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Engage in an athletic wack session and hit a peak intensity when you’ve locked and loaded your batter.
Howl with delight and spike your crotch into the air upon release.
Roll over and get some shuteye.
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What's your work load like? Mine is brutal and I suffer from insomnia as well. I'll get up to take a piss and can't shut down my brain. Sometimes if it's around 4am I'll just go to the gym. It makes the fucking day brutally long though. It's just like the song by Greenday or how Edward Norton explains it in Fight Club.
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This crap is doing it for me:
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I has this problem, I've coped using a combination of an intentional schedule to help me sleep, weed and a guided meditation for sleep that you can find on YouTube , good luck sleep problems really suck
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Or just come off the TREN ;D
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been working graveyard shift for past 10 years.
i used to tend bar, bounce and worked till 4am, no one works this shift has/gets good sleep and you are prolly not 22 years old either
doing it for 10 years is killing your health
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Listen to Joe Rogans podcast with sleep scientist Mathew Walker, it's very informative, one thing he talks about are sleep aids and how they are actually worse for you, you never get in full REM sleep, you are putting your self to sleep artificially. Your body needs to be able to sleep naturally, no weed, cbd, melatonin, Ambien. Rogan was blown away seeing he uses marijuana for sleep for over 20 years.
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Watch a couple Jay Cutler interviews. Fixed.
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I had problems sleeping for at least 30 years. About a year ago I tried weed. Ive never slept better in my life. And i feel rested the next day. Most nights i sleep right through til morning.
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I had problems sleeping for at least 30 years. About a year ago I tried weed. Ive never slept better in my life. And i feel rested the next day. Most nights i sleep right through til morning.
Yup best sleep aid ever add in melotonin and cbd and your sleeping the sleep of the dead and feel great the next morning.im in bed by 9 usually out cold by 1030 and up at 5 feeling great.
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Get your old sparring partner James Toney to punch you in the temple. That ll put ya to sleep.
I didn't ask your opinion. No has ever asked for opinion on anything. You come across as a product of inbreeding resulting in mental retardation.
I ain't your friend, asshole and I don't like you. In fact I would love to smash your fucking face...so keep your mouth shut.
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There is NO Cure! get another job, or continue to have insomnia and all the detrimental health benefits...
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Yup best sleep aid ever add in melotonin and cbd and your sleeping the sleep of the dead and feel great the next morning.im in bed by 9 usually out cold by 1030 and up at 5 feeling great.
Melatonin makes me really drowsy the next day.mi don't like it.
I have cbd oil as well.
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Rob, Sync, Keto, pray4war thanks for all of the input. l'll try all of it.
I start at 10pm and get off at 8am. I was up for about a day and a half straight. took a double dose of Zzzquil and 6 mgs melatonin. Just stared at the ceiling. Maybe slept for an hour and a half. today I slept a solid 4 hours. best its been in over a week.
it'll up the melatonin to 10mgs. see if that does anything. try the hot shower cold room. Sounds reasonable. Ill definitely make the room darker and cut out blueight by 6am.
thanks for all legitimate advice.
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^^^ I work the exact same schedule 10p-8a, many times 7 days a week. A conistant bed time and a dark bedroom are a must for me. Usually try to sleep 12p-7p. It can be tough, our bodies are fighting nature by sleeping in the day.
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MK-677 can give you the sleep of Gods
but like with everything results vary.
Efferding and other strength "coaches" have
pushed D3 as something critical for sleep.
Usually improving levels takes months and months but
if you do 50,000iu/day for a week you get there quickly. Then you can take 50K once every 2 weeks to maintain. But read up on it, it's a serious hormone etc.
Also, perhaps counterintuitive, is how wakefulness drugs like modafinil could help sleep itself.
I believe good sleep is #1 for everything in life.
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MK-677 can give you the sleep of Gods
but like with everything results vary.
Efferding and other strength "coaches" have
pushed D3 as something critical for sleep.
Usually improving levels takes months and months but
if you do 50,000iu/day for a week you get there quickly. Then you can take 50K once every 2 weeks to maintain. But read up on it, it's a serious hormone etc.
Also, perhaps counterintuitive, is how wakefulness drugs like modafinil could help sleep itself.
I believe good sleep is #1 for everything in life.
I take modanifil. it's pretty good to overcome effects of poor sleep. Also I am subject to steroid testing. Would MK 677 trigger a positive result?
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I have had severe insomnia for most of my life. I have been hospitalized multiple times for going 4 days without sleep.
I can take a handful of ambien and go to the gym.
So far, the only thing I have used that works is restoril..but I hate taking a narcotic! I am given the 30mg and have to take at least 2 in order to sleep, and we I do sleep? 6 hours is a lot!
I just want them to legalize weed so I can get trashed and pass out on THC gummy bears and never take this poison again!
Bench
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god damn thats gonna be tough.
It's the most powerful and natural way to challenge your problem.
Comparatively speaking, everybody else in this thread is talking pissant shite compared to what I said (no offence intended). It's shocking to me that only I have mentioned it - particularly after you responded to me. That's just how ubiquitous using caffeine and stimulant drugs is. Nobody even thinks "wait a minute, maybe it's the fact I drug myself with drugs that keep people awake, every day".
Smoking weed, trying to adjust your light to invoke some circadian rhythm response.. all very minor/rubbish solutions IF you are experiencing this problem and have not yet tried to come completely off caffeine and stimulants.
I remember buying a coffee machine from a fella about a decade ago and him telling me he could no longer drink it and I thought, fuck, what a nightmare. Well, about 5 years ago, I became that fella. I didnt' have problems with insomnia - I had problems where I would be royally fucked after having strong coffee, after the first hour. I have no idea what the situation is with my body but it just makes it very clear to me, no more strong coffee. I quite caffeine for a year or two andt hen slowly introduced only green tea and the odd instant at night.
And the results are fucking great. I am never tired during the day. I never struggle to go to sleep. I have stable energy all the time. It's a thousand times better.
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I take modanifil. it's pretty good to overcome effects of poor sleep. Also I am subject to steroid testing. Would MK 677 trigger a positive result?
MK is not looked for in employment testing etc. Unless the product is contaminated, but that's a worry with even mainstream supplements.
Prolonged oral treatment with MK-677, a novel growth hormone secretagogue, improves sleep quality in man.
Clinical Trial
Copinschi G, et al. Neuroendocrinology. 1997.
Show full citation
Abstract
Previous studies have indicated the existence of common mechanisms regulating sleep and somatotropic activity. In the present study, we investigated the effects of prolonged treatment with a novel, orally active, growth hormone secretagogue (MK-677) on sleep quality in healthy young and older adults. Eight young subjects (18-30 years) followed a double-blind, placebo-controlled, three-period crossover design. Each subject participated in three 7-day treatment periods (with bedtime drug administration), presented in random (Latin square) order, and separated by at least 14 days. Doses were 5 and 25 mg MK-677 and matching placebo. Six older subjects, ages 65-71 years, each participated in two 14-day treatment periods (with bedtime drug administration) separated by a 14-day washout. Doses were 2 and 25 mg MK-677 during the first and second periods, respectively. Baseline sleep and hormonal data were obtained on the 2 days preceding the beginning of the first 14-day treatment period. In young subjects, high-dose MK-677 treatment resulted in an approximately 50% increase in the duration of stage IV and in a more than 20% increase in REM sleep as compared to placebo (p < 0.05). The frequency of deviations from normal sleep decreased from 42% under placebo to 8% under high-dose MK-677 (p < 0.03). In older adults, treatment with MK-677 was associated with a nearly 50% increase in REM sleep (p < 0.05) and a decrease in REM latency (p < 0.02). The frequency of deviations from normal sleep also decreased (p < 0.02). The present findings suggest that MK-677 may simultaneously improve sleep quality and correct the relative hyposomatotropism of senescence.
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It's the most powerful and natural way to challenge your problem.
Comparatively speaking, everybody else in this thread is talking pissant shite compared to what I said (no offence intended). It's shocking to me that only I have mentioned it - particularly after you responded to me. That's just how ubiquitous using caffeine and stimulant drugs is. Nobody even thinks "wait a minute, maybe it's the fact I drug myself with drugs that keep people awake, every day".
Smoking weed, trying to adjust your light to invoke some circadian rhythm response.. all very minor/rubbish solutions IF you are experiencing this problem and have not yet tried to come completely off caffeine and stimulants.
I remember buying a coffee machine from a fella about a decade ago and him telling me he could no longer drink it and I thought, fuck, what a nightmare. Well, about 5 years ago, I became that fella. I didnt' have problems with insomnia - I had problems where I would be royally fucked after having strong coffee, after the first hour. I have no idea what the situation is with my body but it just makes it very clear to me, no more strong coffee. I quite caffeine for a year or two andt hen slowly introduced only green tea and the odd instant at night.
And the results are fucking great. I am never tired during the day. I never struggle to go to sleep. I have stable energy all the time. It's a thousand times better.
The interesting thing is that caffeine is a sleep inducer at low dosages. And many of us know elderly people who need a cup of coffee to take nap. Brain chemistry is complicated.
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I did graveyards for 3 1/2 years. Started of well but soon turned into a nightmare when the insomnia started kicking in. The only thing that cured my insomnia was switching back to days/evenings. It also took many years for my sleep pattern to return to a somewhat normal state.
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I didn't ask your opinion. No has ever asked for opinion on anything. You come across as a product of inbreeding resulting in mental retardation.
I ain't your friend, asshole and I don't like you. In fact I would love to smash your fucking face...so keep your mouth shut.
You wouldn't stand a chance! Fantasists like you who claim shit like "Oh I sparred James Toney", are the biggest pussys out there. Youd last 4 seconds against me
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You wouldn't stand a chance! Fantasists like you who claim shit like "Oh I sparred James Toney", are the biggest pussys out there. Youd last 4 seconds against me
that was 28 years ago. i still. train everyday. 10 rounds. I absolutely hate people as fucking stupid as you claim to be. I got nothing for you but I would love the chance to teach you something and shut your trap for good.
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It's the most powerful and natural way to challenge your problem.
Comparatively speaking, everybody else in this thread is talking pissant shite compared to what I said (no offence intended). It's shocking to me that only I have mentioned it - particularly after you responded to me. That's just how ubiquitous using caffeine and stimulant drugs is. Nobody even thinks "wait a minute, maybe it's the fact I drug myself with drugs that keep people awake, every day".
Smoking weed, trying to adjust your light to invoke some circadian rhythm response.. all very minor/rubbish solutions IF you are experiencing this problem and have not yet tried to come completely off caffeine and stimulants.
I remember buying a coffee machine from a fella about a decade ago and him telling me he could no longer drink it and I thought, fuck, what a nightmare. Well, about 5 years ago, I became that fella. I didnt' have problems with insomnia - I had problems where I would be royally fucked after having strong coffee, after the first hour. I have no idea what the situation is with my body but it just makes it very clear to me, no more strong coffee. I quite caffeine for a year or two andt hen slowly introduced only green tea and the odd instant at night.
And the results are fucking great. I am never tired during the day. I never struggle to go to sleep. I have stable energy all the time. It's a thousand times better.
thank you. I will start weening off. have you ever worked the night shift? do you now?
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I have had severe insomnia for most of my life. I have been hospitalized multiple times for going 4 days without sleep.
I can take a handful of ambien and go to the gym.
So far, the only thing I have used that works is restoril..but I hate taking a narcotic! I am given the 30mg and have to take at least 2 in order to sleep, and we I do sleep? 6 hours is a lot!
I just want them to legalize weed so I can get trashed and pass out on THC gummy bears and never take this poison again!
Bench
Ambien is just aweful. I have no use for it and it didn't work. what are the effects of restoril?
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that was 28 years ago. i still. train everyday. 10 rounds. I absolutely hate people as fucking stupid as you claim to be. I got nothing for you but I would love the chance to teach you something and shut your trap for good.
Where? Ill be there, I got money and time and I'm bored ill fly over. Remember though, I am a MACHINE.
Edit. Hold on? 28 years ago? How old are you/ 60? haha go away old man, go get your pension!
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All these drug fixes are the wrong way to go. I worked a lot of crazy shifts. Revolving shifts and permanent mid nights for awhile. I found the best thing to do is to avoid coffee. When you get home at say 7 or 8AM immediately go to bed. Guys that stay up till noon or so are making it worst. One thing for sure working all night is horrible for your health. No way that is normal despite what people think.
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Take a thc/cbd/melatonin edible.incredible sleep.
Melatonin works and is not addictive. Try that!
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Ambien is just aweful. I have no use for it and it didn't work. what are the effects of restoril?
I haven’t really had any bad side effects from it...I just don’t like taking benzodiazepines ..or any narcotics
Bench
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Mk-677?
I will try that. Its not a drug so i will be fucked in the test?
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Weed puts you too sleep fast but it really disrupts REM sleep. REM sleep is important without it you feel drowsy and sluggish when you wake up.
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smoke pot, its natures insomnia remedy
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Lots of beta males in here that can’t sleep
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Lots of beta males in here that can’t sleep
Ain’t got time for that shit!
In all seriousness, I always figured once I got married I would start slowing my life down, working less, enjoying life more...and I have done all those things...but as my my last several sleep studies I still have severe insomnia.
Bench
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Lots of beta males in here that can’t sleep
OK "Bev" ::)
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I worked Mids for 10 years. Put tin foil on my bedroom windows.. it sucks, but that's the life we choose.
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I worked Mids for 10 years. Put tin foil on my bedroom windows.. it sucks, but that's the life we choose.
ill give it a shot.
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What's your work load like? Mine is brutal and I suffer from insomnia as well. I'll get up to take a piss and can't shut down my brain. Sometimes if it's around 4am I'll just go to the gym. It makes the fucking day brutally long though. It's just like the song by Greenday or how Edward Norton explains it in Fight Club.
Deep red light in bathroom, don't turn on the normal light during sleep periods.
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5HTP with chamomile. Thank me later.
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also linden tea with honey before bedtime can help
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thank you. I will start weening off. have you ever worked the night shift? do you now?
I have never worked a night shift but yeah, I used to start getting really tired around 2pm in my desk job and that was with heavy heavy caffeine abuse.
That never, ever happens any more that I no longer have shitloads of caffeine.
Ween and come completely off. Come back to it when you're sure you've sorted it out. You might find that you no longer enjoy the feeling of caffeine buzz. I know I do not, any more.
Also, responding to a few people - I don't have insomnia, I can drink a coffee and go to sleep - I have a different problem. Something to do with feeling utterly drained by strong caffeine. Like completely deadheaded, low energy. Really bad.
I recently experimented with modafinil. Even at a quarter tablet at 9am, I was absolutely fucked by night time. Mentally just destroyed. I worked like a demon all day, though. Wasn't worth the cost, though. One thing is for sure, you don't suggest to an insomniac to take the drug they use for narcolepsy ;D
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5HTP with chamomile. Thank me later.
5htp , melatonin, gaba, zembrin, magnesium, etc. all nothing. I can quadruple the dose and feel nothing.
Zilch.
"having a hard time sleeping" is not the same as the insomnia that comes from working graveyard. dihyphendramamine is also a joke.
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I have never worked a night shift but yeah, I used to start getting really tired around 2pm in my desk job and that was with heavy heavy caffeine abuse.
That never, ever happens any more that I no longer have shitloads of caffeine.
Ween and come completely off. Come back to it when you're sure you've sorted it out. You might find that you no longer enjoy the feeling of caffeine buzz. I know I do not, any more.
Also, responding to a few people - I don't have insomnia, I can drink a coffee and go to sleep - I have a different problem. Something to do with feeling utterly drained by strong caffeine. Like completely deadheaded, low energy. Really bad.
I recently experimented with modafinil. Even at a quarter tablet at 9am, I was absolutely fucked by night time. Mentally just destroyed. I worked like a demon all day, though. Wasn't worth the cost, though. One thing is for sure, you don't suggest to an insomniac to take the drug they use for narcolepsy ;D
hate to be cliche but the way ed Norton described it in fight club. never really awake, never really asleep etc. too tired to think straight but can't sleep. The insomnia started before the the stimulants. I take modafinil to vet through my shift. and I take ALOT..... When I first started modafinil the Dr. prescribe me half a pill. I took it at 2pm and took a nap til 4pm. felt nothing.
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pot is the only effective, non toxic and moral choice... allowing one 2 prescribe their own schedule while getting sleep at any time
pot will prolong your lifespan
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Reading a pellius long winded post is a sure cure for insomnia.
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pot is the only effective, non toxic and moral choice... allowing one 2 prescribe their own schedule while getting sleep at any time
pot will prolong your lifespan
You already mentioned this already
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You already mentioned this already
pot is the only effective, non toxic and moral choice... allowing one 2 prescribe their own schedule while getting sleep at any time
pot will prolong your lifespan
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been working graveyard shift for past 10 years. it's a bitch. bouts of insomnia come and go and I've never found a good cure for it. I've tried natural and rx medication nothing works just ride it out until sleep returns. Ambien is a god aweful drug. Haven't slept in days worst case I've ever had. Any suggestions?
weed legal state?
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I personally have been suffering from chronic insomnia and often go 2-4 days with no sleep at all. CBD oil is my all. I have read here (https://www.ncsm.nl/english/cbd-oil/is-cbd-oil-good-for-insomnia) that CBD oil has been helping many people to improve their sleep. I have also noticed it helps me overcome stress at work. Though I take it on occasion not regularly.
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Cut all caffeine / stimulants
Tough for a few weeks.. then much much better for stuff like this.
Don't go cold turkey though or you'll have massive headaches. Slowly reduce caffeine intake over 2 weeks.
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Best cure for insomnia is a good nights sleep.
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Worked crazy shifts for years. Now as I age I can't seem to sleep over 6 hours. When I do sleep 8 hours I feel fantastic. It would be better if I didn't have a wife that was a bed hog and snored like a train. During my career working life I remember crazy stuff like waking ups at 4AM to drive in for my day shift for four days then leaving my house at 7PM to work night shifts. 8 days in a row. Other times working 10P to 6A and having a boss tell me we need you to stay till 2 PM. I think it shaved years off my life with the other stress involved.
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I work swing shifts switching back and forth from nights to days. I bought an elliptical. A half hour on that, pop a melatonin, drink some sleepy time tea, shower then I'm out.
Also helps when I put on background noise on youtube of something like thunderstorm, or waterfall.
Read 'why we sleep'. I'm way better of not taking any sleeping pills. I also keep my room as cool as possible. 50-55 now that its winter.
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I work swing shifts switching back and forth from nights to days. I bought an elliptical. A half hour on that, pop a melatonin, drink some sleepy time tea, shower then I'm out.
Also helps when I put on background noise on youtube of something like thunderstorm, or waterfall.
Read 'why we sleep'. I'm way better of not taking any sleeping pills. I also keep my room as cool as possible. 50-55 now that its winter.
That book puts me to sleep.
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Worked crazy shifts for years. Now as I age I can't seem to sleep over 6 hours. When I do sleep 8 hours I feel fantastic. It would be better if I didn't have a wife that was a bed hog and snored like a train. During my career working life I remember crazy stuff like waking ups at 4AM to drive in for my day shift for four days then leaving my house at 7PM to work night shifts. 8 days in a row. Other times working 10P to 6A and having a boss tell me we need you to stay till 2 PM. I think it shaved years off my life with the other stress involved.
I sincerely hope the $ you earned & your pension in retirement will & have
Been worth the trade off.
We only get one go at this life business & it’s a tough juggle at times to
Make the best alll round decisions.
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I take modanifil. it's pretty good to overcome effects of poor sleep. Also I am subject to steroid testing. Would MK 677 trigger a positive result?
Modafinil is a great drug. I have it prescribed for sleep apnea, and daytime sleepiness. MK 677 is pure junk. If you want to turn into a water balloon go ahead and use it. Peptides, MK 677 are all junk that is touted as giving GH like effects. So, why not invest in good quality pharma GH, problem solved. No MK 677 won't test positive for steroids.
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I take modanifil. it's pretty good to overcome effects of poor sleep. Also I am subject to steroid testing. Would MK 677 trigger a positive result?
Ahhh, the Limitless drug!
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Cut all caffeine / stimulants
Tough for a few weeks.. then much much better for stuff like this.
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distorts your natural sleeping pattern
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try some of pellius´ posts
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Watch a couple Jay Cutler interviews. Fixed.
;) A "couple" ? Are you crazy? He wants sleep, not dead.