Author Topic: insomnia cure.... (Read 14505 times)

robcguns · « **Reply #25 on:** May 22, 2018, 04:38:10 PM »

Quote from: blinky on May 22, 2018, 04:17:51 PM

I had problems sleeping for at least 30 years. About a year ago I tried weed. Ive never slept better in my life. And i feel rested the next day. Most nights i sleep right through til morning.

Yup best sleep aid ever add in melotonin and cbd and your sleeping the sleep of the dead and feel great the next morning.im in bed by 9 usually out cold by 1030 and up at 5 feeling great.

beakdoctor · « **Reply #26 on:** May 22, 2018, 05:32:32 PM »

Quote from: Darren Avey on May 22, 2018, 04:54:40 AM

Get your old sparring partner James Toney to punch you in the temple. That ll put ya to sleep.

I didn't ask your opinion. No has ever asked for opinion on anything. You come across as a product of inbreeding resulting in mental retardation.

I ain't your friend, asshole and I don't like you. In fact I would love to smash your fucking face...so keep your mouth shut.

MP · « **Reply #27 on:** May 22, 2018, 05:46:06 PM »

Quote from: Board_SHERIF on May 22, 2018, 09:35:51 AM

There is NO Cure! get another job, or continue to have insomnia and all the detrimental health benefits...

blinky · « **Reply #28 on:** May 22, 2018, 05:48:11 PM »

Quote from: robcguns on May 22, 2018, 04:38:10 PM

Yup best sleep aid ever add in melotonin and cbd and your sleeping the sleep of the dead and feel great the next morning.im in bed by 9 usually out cold by 1030 and up at 5 feeling great.

Melatonin makes me really drowsy the next day.mi don't like it.
I have cbd oil as well.

beakdoctor · « **Reply #29 on:** May 22, 2018, 05:49:51 PM »

Rob, Sync, Keto, pray4war thanks for all of the input. l'll try all of it.

I start at 10pm and get off at 8am. I was up for about a day and a half straight. took a double dose of Zzzquil and 6 mgs melatonin. Just stared at the ceiling. Maybe slept for an hour and a half. today I slept a solid 4 hours. best its been in over a week.

it'll up the melatonin to 10mgs. see if that does anything. try the hot shower cold room. Sounds reasonable. Ill definitely make the room darker and cut out blueight by 6am.

thanks for all legitimate advice.

US MUSL · « **Reply #30 on:** May 22, 2018, 06:25:10 PM »

^^^ I work the exact same schedule 10p-8a, many times 7 days a week. A conistant bed time and a dark bedroom are a must for me. Usually try to sleep 12p-7p. It can be tough, our bodies are fighting nature by sleeping in the day.

Van_Bilderass · « **Reply #31 on:** May 22, 2018, 08:40:22 PM »

MK-677 can give you the sleep of Gods
but like with everything results vary.
Efferding and other strength "coaches" have
pushed D3 as something critical for sleep.
Usually improving levels takes months and months but
if you do 50,000iu/day for a week you get there quickly. Then you can take 50K once every 2 weeks to maintain. But read up on it, it's a serious hormone etc.

Also, perhaps counterintuitive, is how wakefulness drugs like modafinil could help sleep itself.

I believe good sleep is #1 for everything in life.

beakdoctor · « **Reply #32 on:** May 22, 2018, 09:33:33 PM »

Quote from: Van_Bilderass on May 22, 2018, 08:40:22 PM

MK-677 can give you the sleep of Gods
but like with everything results vary.
Efferding and other strength "coaches" have
pushed D3 as something critical for sleep.
Usually improving levels takes months and months but
if you do 50,000iu/day for a week you get there quickly. Then you can take 50K once every 2 weeks to maintain. But read up on it, it's a serious hormone etc.

Also, perhaps counterintuitive, is how wakefulness drugs like modafinil could help sleep itself.

I believe good sleep is #1 for everything in life.

I take modanifil. it's pretty good to overcome effects of poor sleep. Also I am subject to steroid testing. Would MK 677 trigger a positive result?

benchmstr · « **Reply #33 on:** May 22, 2018, 10:23:15 PM »

I have had severe insomnia for most of my life. I have been hospitalized multiple times for going 4 days without sleep.

I can take a handful of ambien and go to the gym.

So far, the only thing I have used that works is restoril..but I hate taking a narcotic! I am given the 30mg and have to take at least 2 in order to sleep, and we I do sleep? 6 hours is a lot!

I just want them to legalize weed so I can get trashed and pass out on THC gummy bears and never take this poison again!

Bench

rocket · « **Reply #34 on:** May 23, 2018, 03:00:58 AM »

Quote from: beakdoctor on May 22, 2018, 03:44:21 AM

god damn thats gonna be tough.

It's the most powerful and natural way to challenge your problem.

Comparatively speaking, everybody else in this thread is talking pissant shite compared to what I said (no offence intended). It's shocking to me that only I have mentioned it - particularly after you responded to me. That's just how ubiquitous using caffeine and stimulant drugs is. Nobody even thinks "wait a minute, maybe it's the fact I drug myself with drugs that keep people awake, every day".

Smoking weed, trying to adjust your light to invoke some circadian rhythm response.. all very minor/rubbish solutions IF you are experiencing this problem and have not yet tried to come completely off caffeine and stimulants.

I remember buying a coffee machine from a fella about a decade ago and him telling me he could no longer drink it and I thought, fuck, what a nightmare. Well, about 5 years ago, I became that fella. I didnt' have problems with insomnia - I had problems where I would be royally fucked after having strong coffee, after the first hour. I have no idea what the situation is with my body but it just makes it very clear to me, no more strong coffee. I quite caffeine for a year or two andt hen slowly introduced only green tea and the odd instant at night.

And the results are fucking great. I am never tired during the day. I never struggle to go to sleep. I have stable energy all the time. It's a thousand times better.

Van_Bilderass · « **Reply #35 on:** May 23, 2018, 03:43:09 AM »

Quote from: beakdoctor on May 22, 2018, 09:33:33 PM

I take modanifil. it's pretty good to overcome effects of poor sleep. Also I am subject to steroid testing. Would MK 677 trigger a positive result?

MK is not looked for in employment testing etc. Unless the product is contaminated, but that's a worry with even mainstream supplements.

Prolonged oral treatment with MK-677, a novel growth hormone secretagogue, improves sleep quality in man.
Clinical Trial
Copinschi G, et al. Neuroendocrinology. 1997.
Show full citation
Abstract
Previous studies have indicated the existence of common mechanisms regulating sleep and somatotropic activity. In the present study, we investigated the effects of prolonged treatment with a novel, orally active, growth hormone secretagogue (MK-677) on sleep quality in healthy young and older adults. Eight young subjects (18-30 years) followed a double-blind, placebo-controlled, three-period crossover design. Each subject participated in three 7-day treatment periods (with bedtime drug administration), presented in random (Latin square) order, and separated by at least 14 days. Doses were 5 and 25 mg MK-677 and matching placebo. Six older subjects, ages 65-71 years, each participated in two 14-day treatment periods (with bedtime drug administration) separated by a 14-day washout. Doses were 2 and 25 mg MK-677 during the first and second periods, respectively. Baseline sleep and hormonal data were obtained on the 2 days preceding the beginning of the first 14-day treatment period. In young subjects, high-dose MK-677 treatment resulted in an approximately 50% increase in the duration of stage IV and in a more than 20% increase in REM sleep as compared to placebo (p < 0.05). The frequency of deviations from normal sleep decreased from 42% under placebo to 8% under high-dose MK-677 (p < 0.03). In older adults, treatment with MK-677 was associated with a nearly 50% increase in REM sleep (p < 0.05) and a decrease in REM latency (p < 0.02). The frequency of deviations from normal sleep also decreased (p < 0.02). The present findings suggest that MK-677 may simultaneously improve sleep quality and correct the relative hyposomatotropism of senescence.

Van_Bilderass · « **Reply #36 on:** May 23, 2018, 03:45:59 AM »

Quote from: rocket on May 23, 2018, 03:00:58 AM

It's the most powerful and natural way to challenge your problem.

Comparatively speaking, everybody else in this thread is talking pissant shite compared to what I said (no offence intended). It's shocking to me that only I have mentioned it - particularly after you responded to me. That's just how ubiquitous using caffeine and stimulant drugs is. Nobody even thinks "wait a minute, maybe it's the fact I drug myself with drugs that keep people awake, every day".

Smoking weed, trying to adjust your light to invoke some circadian rhythm response.. all very minor/rubbish solutions IF you are experiencing this problem and have not yet tried to come completely off caffeine and stimulants.

I remember buying a coffee machine from a fella about a decade ago and him telling me he could no longer drink it and I thought, fuck, what a nightmare. Well, about 5 years ago, I became that fella. I didnt' have problems with insomnia - I had problems where I would be royally fucked after having strong coffee, after the first hour. I have no idea what the situation is with my body but it just makes it very clear to me, no more strong coffee. I quite caffeine for a year or two andt hen slowly introduced only green tea and the odd instant at night.

And the results are fucking great. I am never tired during the day. I never struggle to go to sleep. I have stable energy all the time. It's a thousand times better.

The interesting thing is that caffeine is a sleep inducer at low dosages. And many of us know elderly people who need a cup of coffee to take nap. Brain chemistry is complicated.

YngiweRhoads · « **Reply #37 on:** May 23, 2018, 04:04:45 AM »

I did graveyards for 3 1/2 years. Started of well but soon turned into a nightmare when the insomnia started kicking in. The only thing that cured my insomnia was switching back to days/evenings. It also took many years for my sleep pattern to return to a somewhat normal state.

Darren Avey · « **Reply #38 on:** May 23, 2018, 04:47:13 AM »

Quote from: beakdoctor on May 22, 2018, 05:32:32 PM

I didn't ask your opinion. No has ever asked for opinion on anything. You come across as a product of inbreeding resulting in mental retardation.

I ain't your friend, asshole and I don't like you. In fact I would love to smash your fucking face...so keep your mouth shut.

You wouldn't stand a chance! Fantasists like you who claim shit like "Oh I sparred James Toney", are the biggest pussys out there. Youd last 4 seconds against me

beakdoctor · « **Reply #39 on:** May 23, 2018, 09:03:33 AM »

Quote from: Darren Avey on May 23, 2018, 04:47:13 AM

You wouldn't stand a chance! Fantasists like you who claim shit like "Oh I sparred James Toney", are the biggest pussys out there. Youd last 4 seconds against me

that was 28 years ago. i still. train everyday. 10 rounds. I absolutely hate people as fucking stupid as you claim to be. I got nothing for you but I would love the chance to teach you something and shut your trap for good.

beakdoctor · « **Reply #40 on:** May 23, 2018, 09:07:05 AM »

Quote from: rocket on May 23, 2018, 03:00:58 AM

It's the most powerful and natural way to challenge your problem.

Comparatively speaking, everybody else in this thread is talking pissant shite compared to what I said (no offence intended). It's shocking to me that only I have mentioned it - particularly after you responded to me. That's just how ubiquitous using caffeine and stimulant drugs is. Nobody even thinks "wait a minute, maybe it's the fact I drug myself with drugs that keep people awake, every day".

Smoking weed, trying to adjust your light to invoke some circadian rhythm response.. all very minor/rubbish solutions IF you are experiencing this problem and have not yet tried to come completely off caffeine and stimulants.

I remember buying a coffee machine from a fella about a decade ago and him telling me he could no longer drink it and I thought, fuck, what a nightmare. Well, about 5 years ago, I became that fella. I didnt' have problems with insomnia - I had problems where I would be royally fucked after having strong coffee, after the first hour. I have no idea what the situation is with my body but it just makes it very clear to me, no more strong coffee. I quite caffeine for a year or two andt hen slowly introduced only green tea and the odd instant at night.

And the results are fucking great. I am never tired during the day. I never struggle to go to sleep. I have stable energy all the time. It's a thousand times better.

thank you. I will start weening off. have you ever worked the night shift? do you now?

beakdoctor · « **Reply #41 on:** May 23, 2018, 09:09:33 AM »

Quote from: benchmstr on May 22, 2018, 10:23:15 PM

I have had severe insomnia for most of my life. I have been hospitalized multiple times for going 4 days without sleep.

I can take a handful of ambien and go to the gym.

So far, the only thing I have used that works is restoril..but I hate taking a narcotic! I am given the 30mg and have to take at least 2 in order to sleep, and we I do sleep? 6 hours is a lot!

I just want them to legalize weed so I can get trashed and pass out on THC gummy bears and never take this poison again!

Bench

Ambien is just aweful. I have no use for it and it didn't work. what are the effects of restoril?

Darren Avey · « **Reply #42 on:** May 23, 2018, 10:16:38 AM »

Quote from: beakdoctor on May 23, 2018, 09:03:33 AM

that was 28 years ago. i still. train everyday. 10 rounds. I absolutely hate people as fucking stupid as you claim to be. I got nothing for you but I would love the chance to teach you something and shut your trap for good.

Where? Ill be there, I got money and time and I'm bored ill fly over. Remember though, I am a MACHINE.

Edit. Hold on? 28 years ago? How old are you/ 60? haha go away old man, go get your pension!

oldtimer1 · « **Reply #43 on:** May 24, 2018, 05:34:45 AM »

All these drug fixes are the wrong way to go. I worked a lot of crazy shifts. Revolving shifts and permanent mid nights for awhile. I found the best thing to do is to avoid coffee. When you get home at say 7 or 8AM immediately go to bed. Guys that stay up till noon or so are making it worst. One thing for sure working all night is horrible for your health. No way that is normal despite what people think.