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I think it's fair and bi-partisan to say both Presidents had their share of sex scandals .
For many moral crusaders with team Trump , double standard appears to exist.
They were loud and adamant about charging and then impeaching former Pres. Bill Clinton for lying about sexual affairs.
Ok fair enough, but Trump's had as many or more sex scadels, some with secret pay offs and N.D.A.'s
I understand that Trump is pro life and moved the embassy to Jersulum.
BUT, if the main reason to immpeach Bill Clinton was lying about sex, they sure don't hold Trump to the same standard.
Thus, I must conclude, sexual conduct can't be the main issue with these folks.
Why do they rant about it?
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Clinton was w a fat intern nearly his daughters age in the WH
Trump was 12 years ago w a porn star.
See the difference?
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Trump is a total Getbigger and Gangsta Alpha
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That was pretty funny, but, I'm curious about the proposed moral standards here.
With Trump, the religeous right gives him a pass on every sex scandel .
From the access Hollywood tape, to Stormy Daniels , Playmate McDougal, etc
The same people were outraged when Bill got a BJ and demanded his impeachment for it.
Seems odd to be outraged by the same sexual conduct that you later ignore ?
My only conclusion is they really don't care about sexual conduct.
They just use it as an excuse to go after a political rival.
The religious right knows Trump isn't religious. They voted for him and support him because Trump promised to fight abortion, keep transgender kids out of the wrong bathrooms and fill the U.S. courts with die-hard conservative judges. Trump picked a devote Christian as his vice president, and Trump isn't diabolic Hillary.
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Ok, but you still failed to address my question. ???
I did - first post.
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Clinton was w a fat intern nearly his daughters age in the WH
Trump was 12 years ago w a porn star.
See the difference?
Lewinsky was 20 or 21 and Chelsea was 13 or 14
Clinton was impeached for lying under oath about a non-crime
If Trump actually sits down for an interview and lies to Mueller (whether he is lying about a crime or not) the Republicans will have no choice other than to impeach him....right?
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Lewinsky was 20 or 21 and Chelsea was 13 or 14
Clinton was impeached for lying under oath about a non-crime
If Trump actually sits down for an interview and lies to Mueller (whether he is lying about a crime or not) the Republicans will have no choice other than to impeach him....right?
No - because what clinton did was lying to avoid paying damages to a woman he abused. So far it has not been shown Trump did anything wrong on anything at all.
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Ok, I know that and agree with you.
Soooooooo then, why do they keep harping on sexual conduct as an important issue.
Before Trump - personal sexual conduct is an important moral standard for the President.
With Trump - sexual conduct is no biggy.
If they think the other issues you mentioned were more important, then just say so.
Try to understand this - Trump biggest asset are his enemies. When I look at those who hate him the most - reminds me exactly and clear as day why I support him 10000%.
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Oh well, worship your fearless leader then. ::)
not AT ALL - POLITICS about alliances. The cabal and litanny of pos groups aligned against Trump speak volumes to me. The worst of the absolute worst.
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Ok, I know that and agree with you.
Soooooooo then, why do they keep harping on sexual conduct as an important issue.
Before Trump - personal sexual conduct is an important moral standard for the President.
With Trump - sexual conduct is no biggy.
If they think the other issues you mentioned were more important, then just say so.
Religious or not, and regardless of his past, Trump isn't promoting sexual misconduct or signing bills into law that go against what the religious right stands for. Instead, Trump so far seems to be pro-Christian, pro-Israel and in support of the religious right.
So what's the problem again?
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No - because what clinton did was lying to avoid paying damages to a woman he abused. So far it has not been shown Trump did anything wrong on anything at all.
WTF are you talking about
You actually think that's why the Republicans impeached him?
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I think it's fair and bi-partisan to say both Presidents had their share of sex scandals .
For many moral crusaders with team Trump , double standard appears to exist.
They were loud and adamant about charging and then impeaching former Pres. Bill Clinton for lying about sexual affairs.
Ok fair enough, but Trump's had as many or more sex scadels, some with secret pay offs and N.D.A.'s
I understand that Trump is pro life and moved the embassy to Jersulum.
BUT, if the main reason to immpeach Bill Clinton was lying about sex, they sure don't hold Trump to the same standard.
Thus, I must conclude, sexual conduct can't be the main issue with these folks.
Why do they rant about it?
The only "scandal" is the ones that are made up in liberals heads and has yet to be proven, but lets say for shits and giggles Trump did it. Who the fuck cares?? No one, that's why it's coming back to bite the dems in the ass and if he did...it would have been what? 12-14 years ago BEFORE he decided to even enter politics? Clinton on the other hand, all of his rapes and affairs have been while holding a political office. See, that wasn't so hard to figure out.
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So, his personal conduct is irrelevant as long as he signs the right stuff?
Ok, so why do they want everyone else to behave morally when the top guy doesn't need to?
His personal conduct? What do you mean by behaving immorally? Has Trump gotten caught getting a bj by an intern in the White House?
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WTF are you talking about
You actually think that's why the Republicans impeached him?
Yes - he abused Paula Jones by lying in his deposition to avoid paying her what she was due.
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Religious or not, and regardless of his past, Trump isn't promoting sexual misconduct or signing bills into law that go against what the religious right stands for. Instead, Trump so far seems to be pro-Christian, pro-Israel and in support of the religious right.
So what's the problem again?
Trump is the unapologetic poster child for sexual misconduct
Also, your version of "pro-christian" is not the only version "pro-christian" in this country
There are many christian and christian leaders who totally oppose Trump not to mention the majority of the population
Why not just be honest and say that Trump is a non believing useful idiot to push the fundamentalist christian agenda
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His personal conduct? What do you mean by behaving immorally? Has Trump gotten caught getting a bj by an intern in the White House?
that's not a crime and Clinton wasn't impeached for cheating on his wife
Nixon committed actual crimes in the Oval Office (Reagan probably did as well)
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Trump is the unapologetic poster child for sexual misconduct
Also, your version of "pro-christian" is not the only version "pro-christian" in this country
There are many christian and christian leaders who totally oppose Trump not to mention the majority of the population
Why not just be honest and say that Trump is a non believing useful idiot to push the fundamentalist christian agenda
The fact that you believe that Trump is an idiot says a lot about your mental capacity.
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Trump is the unapologetic poster child for sexual misconduct
Also, your version of "pro-christian" is not the only version "pro-christian" in this country
There are many christian and christian leaders who totally oppose Trump not to mention the majority of the population
Why not just be honest and say that Trump is a non believing useful idiot to push the fundamentalist christian agenda
Are you talking to Howard or are you taking to me? If what you say is true, then a small number of Christians voted for and support Trump. So Howard's rambling is meaningless and makes no sense. So what's the problem?
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that's not a crime and Clinton wasn't impeached for cheating on his wife
Nixon committed actual crimes in the Oval Office (Reagan probably did as well)
Did I say it was a crime? I'm following Howard's logic here. What sexual misconduct has Trump committed that is a crime?
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The fact that you believe that Trump is an idiot says a lot about your mental capacity.
Me and members of his cabinet and administration (hand picked by Trump) have reached the same conclusion
Don't forget, I have a very good brain and I've said a lot of things
Actually, throughout my life, my two greatest assets have been mental stability and being, like, really smart
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Me and members of his cabinet and administration (hand picked by Trump) have reached the same conclusion
Don't forget, I have a very good brain and I've said a lot of things
Actually, throughout my life, my two greatest assets have been mental stability and being, like, really smart
Well did it make you a billionaire and the president of the US?
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Did I say it was a crime? I'm following Howard's logic here. What sexual misconduct has Trump committed that is a crime?
we don't impeach people for being immoral and if we're talking about immorality in the oval office I'd guess that consensual sex between two adults is going to be pretty far down on the list
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Me and members of his cabinet and administration (hand picked by Trump) have reached the same conclusion
Don't forget, I have a very good brain and I've said a lot of things
Actually, throughout my life, my two greatest assets have been mental stability and being, like, really smart
So Hillary is so dumb she lost to an idiot?
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that's not a crime and Clinton wasn't impeached for cheating on his wife
Nixon committed actual crimes in the Oval Office (Reagan probably did as well)
Clinton hooked up w a fat intern because his fat disgusting pos wife would not put out. Forced him to cheat. I feel bad in restrospect for what he dealth with. But also glad we avoided that Cvunt
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Well did it make you a billionaire and the president of the US?
No proof that Trump is a billionaire
Plenty of morons have been POTUS
George Bush comes to mind and I'm sure you could name a few that you think are morons
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we don't impeach people for being immoral and if we're talking about immorality in the oval office I'd guess that consensual sex between two adults is going to be pretty far down on the list
Did I say anything about impeachment? I think you're in the wrong thread. I was responding to Howard's rambling. I have no idea what you're talking about.
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Clinton hooked up w a fat intern because his fat disgusting pos wife would not put out. Forced him to cheat. I feel bad in restrospect for what he dealth with. But also glad we avoided that Cvunt
The dude grew up in Arkansas and clearly likes fat chicks
who cares
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No proof that Trump is a billionaire
Plenty of morons have been POTUS
George Bush comes to mind and I'm sure you could name a few that you think are morons
I come on here for the entertainment, this lounge act never fails...lol
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The dude grew up in Arkansas and clearly likes fat chicks
who cares
What's Arnold's excuse?
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So Hillary is so dumb she lost to an idiot?
Lot's of smart people get fooled by con men (and plenty of morons like the majority of Trump voters) and of course Hillary actually got more votes
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I come on here for the entertainment, this lounge act never fails...lol
Let me know what you've seen his audited financials or tax returns (thought tax returns won't show net worth)
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Ok, but I'll bet you remember the chorus of Bill Clinton being sexually immoral.
Nobody with that kind of immoral sexual conduct should be president.
Ok , fair enough if that's what you believe.
With Trump, he gets a pass from the same people.
All I want is a consistent standard applied.
Clinton has been in politics all of his adult life and you're right, no one that has been in politics their entire life should be President or in elected office in any capacity, but the Dems pull it off. Why do you suppose that is, Howard?
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No proof that Trump is a billionaire
Plenty of morons have been POTUS
George Bush comes to mind and I'm sure you could name a few that you think are morons
Forbes estimated 3.1 Billion in February... What do you not agree with in regards to their estimate? Just Google it
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Let me know what you've seen his audited financials or tax returns (thought tax returns won't show net worth)
What's the matter, running out things to pin on him so now we're back to "show your taxes" hahahahaha
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I think it's fair and bi-partisan to say both Presidents had their share of sex scandals .
For many moral crusaders with team Trump , double standard appears to exist.
They were loud and adamant about charging and then impeaching former Pres. Bill Clinton for lying about sexual affairs.
Ok fair enough, but Trump's had as many or more sex scadels, some with secret pay offs and N.D.A.'s
I understand that Trump is pro life and moved the embassy to Jersulum.
BUT, if the main reason to immpeach Bill Clinton was lying about sex, they sure don't hold Trump to the same standard.
Thus, I must conclude, sexual conduct can't be the main issue with these folks.
Why do they rant about it?
I thought you quit, again... ::)
Either way, Clinton did it while he was IN office, Trump did it BEFORE he was in office. If you can't tell the difference, any discussion with you is a waste of time.
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https://religionnews.com/2016/10/11/poll-trump-support-remains-steady-among-evangelicals/
* a small number? wtf?
2/3 of evangelical Christians voted for and continue to support Trump.
Ah, the highly coveted ReligionNews.com! Good post Howard!
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https://religionnews.com/2016/10/11/poll-trump-support-remains-steady-among-evangelicals/
* a small number? wtf?
2/3 of evangelical Christians voted for and continue to support Trump.
I was going by what Straw claims in his post. So you must be arguing with Straw.
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No proof that Trump is a billionaire
Plenty of morons have been POTUS
George Bush comes to mind and I'm sure you could name a few that you think are morons
So Hillary is so dumb, she lost to a broke idiot?
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https://religionnews.com/2016/10/11/poll-trump-support-remains-steady-among-evangelicals/
* a small number? wtf?
2/3 of evangelical Christians voted for and continue to support Trump.
Apparently most of the fundies in this country forgot their religions warning about false prophets, wolfs in sheeps clothing, etc..
It's kind of amazing that they support as their leader someone who embodies the antithesis of everything they claim to care about and believe because they think he will give them what they want
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Apparently most of the fundies in this country forgot their religions warning about false prophets, wolfs in sheeps clothing, etc..
It's kind of amazing that they support as their leader someone who embodies the antithesis of everything they claim to care about and believe because they think he will give them what they want
You just described Hillary Clinton down to a T.
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Forbes estimated 3.1 Billion in February... What do you not agree with in regards to their estimate? Just Google it
You miss this post Straw?
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Forbes estimated 3.1 Billion in February... What do you not agree with in regards to their estimate? Just Google it
Trumps companies are privately owned so there is no way to know what he is worth
Trump has spent his entire life lying about himself and his wealth
He's continued to lie every day that he's been in office (I think we're at 2k+)
Let me know when you find fully audited financial statements
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Trumps companies are privately owned so there is no way to know what he is worth
Trump has spent his entire life lying about himself and his wealth
He's continued to lie every day that he's been in office (I think we're at 2k+)
Let me know when you find fully audited financial statements
Trump owns you
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Trumps companies are privately owned so there is no way to know what he is worth
Trump has spent his entire life lying about himself and his wealth
He's continued to lie every day that he's been in office (I think we're at 2k+)
Let me know when you find fully audited financial statements
Because we have to work to disprove your ignorant statement. ::)
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Because we have to work to disprove your ignorant statement. ::)
it's a belief
you can choose to believe whatever you want and I'll do the same
If Trump ever provides proof of his net worth then we can switch from individual beliefs to fact
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Because we have to work to disprove your ignorant statement. ::)
It's like the Russia thing, Trump has to prove he didn't do anything as opposed to them having to show that he did do something.....
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My post was going to be,"Why is anyone replying seriously in a thread by Howard!"
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https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/2/20/17031772/mueller-indictments-grand-jury
19 indictments and 5 guilty pleas.
Maybe the guilty will get serve time in a "fake jail" :D
I'm a glutton for punishment sometimes.
Tell me again what that has to do with Trump, lol?
Also, https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailywire.com/news/30556/disaster-mueller-indicted-russian-company-didnt-ryan-saavedra%3famp
Doing a real bang up job he is 🤗
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So, his personal conduct is irrelevant as long as he signs the right stuff?
Ok, so why do they want everyone else to behave morally when the top guy doesn't need to?
Howard, you seem to be having trouble wrapping your head around the fact the religious right are hypocrites. Once you realize they are only moral when it suits them, or until it is found out they are having a hetero or homosexual affair or embezzling funds at no different a rate than the left, it gets easier to understand. They support Trump because he presents himself as anti abortion, which is one of their biggest issues. He is anti immigration which suits most of them as well. He is also male and white. Their other choice was Hillary who is pro choice, female and has a D after her name. They probably weren't happy about it, because it does call into question their true motives and morality when they support a womanizing lying narcissistic adulterer... but they'll get over it. We should too
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Howard, you seem to be having trouble wrapping your head around the fact the religious right are hypocrites.
Stop reading here.
As if you agnostic liberals are some kind of honest bunch. ::)
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they support a womanizing lying narcissistic adulterer... but they'll get over it. We should too
Bill Clinton?
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He was the former President '92-2000 and dem gov of Ark.
Hope this helps ;)
Yup, and "a womanizing lying narcissistic adulterer" too.
Hope this helps ;)
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Yup, and "a womanizing lying narcissistic adulterer" too.
Hope this helps ;)
and accused rapist.
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Stop reading here.
As if you
stopped reading there.
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and accused rapist.
apparently Trump and Clinton have a lot in common.
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apparently Trump and Clinton have a lot in common.
Not really. One preyed on young interns, lied under oath about it, was impeached by the House, and made a ton of money off his taxpayer funded government service. The other is currently POTUS.
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Of all the places to make a comeback Howard, the politics board is not it...
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apparently Trump and Clinton have a lot in common.
Not really.
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Of all the places to make a comeback Howard, the politics board is not it...
lol ;D
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and accused rapist.
since when do Republicans believe woman who claim to have been raped or assaulted?
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since when do Republicans believe woman who claim to have been raped or assaulted?
not since they left the kitchen, ammirite?
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Hard to figure why the GOP is losing career minded women? :o
Trump received the strongest support from white women without college degrees, 62 percent of whom voted for him.
The second largest contingent of women supporting Trump was white women with college degrees. Forty-five percent of them voted for him.
You can keep the rest. ;)
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Oh yeah, the DNC has hardly any women running for office in 2018.
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They obviously didn't learn when they allowed Killary to run.