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If they truly care then wouldn’t they invite one homeless person to stay with them?
I guess it’s just virtue signaling.
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My ex and I took in a homeless family once. Dad, mom, and 4 darling girls. Until we had to kick them out after a week when the dad did drug deals in our driveway while I was away at work. And those darling kids gave us and my young son head lice. Good times.
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This is one of those tough questions because in theory a 1st world country shouldn't have a serious homeless problem, but at the same time, a lot of homeless are there by their own hand or governmental hand. A decent majority should be institutionalized, alas, we can't do that anymore. Also the near death of American industry due to various things also contributes, but that will never likely be fixed either.
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My ex and I took in a homeless family once. Dad, mom, and 4 darling girls. Until we had to kick them out after a week when the dad did drug deals in our driveway while I was away at work. And those darling kids gave us and my young son head lice. Good times.
wtf were you thinking
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homeless peeps r often crazy or lazy.. always filthy
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wtf were you thinking
They had a newborn baby. I couldn't let those kids suffer because of their shithead dad. But he was the reason they were homeless. Later on, I learned the wife smartened up and left the dumbass. I hope she and her kids are doing better now.
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If they truly care then wouldn’t they invite one homeless person to stay with them?
I guess it’s just virtue signaling.
I agree. And people against abortion should adopt
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My ex and I took in a homeless family once. Dad, mom, and 4 darling girls. Until we had to kick them out after a week when the dad did drug deals in our driveway while I was away at work. And those darling kids gave us and my young son head lice. Good times.
Props to you and this is why I have no sympathy for the homeless. If you take on in they will do shit like this or at least steal from you. My best friends dad is a good Christian man and took in a homeless man and yes he got burned. I remember the bum tried to sell me an air compressor once, hmm where does a bum acquire an air compressor?
Not sure about other places but near me I see mostly young able bodied homeless who are just lazy or on drugs choosing to be homeless. Seems like very few these days are just down on their luck and looking to get their lives back on track.
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I agree. And people against abortion should adopt
I somewhat agree however not everyone can adopt. Pretty much everyone could let a dirt stinking bum crash on their couch.
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I agree. And people against abortion should adopt
Haha the above statement is an epic ownage of OP! :D :D :D
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My ex and I took in a homeless family once. Dad, mom, and 4 darling girls. Until we had to kick them out after a week when the dad did drug deals in our driveway while I was away at work. And those darling kids gave us and my young son head lice. Good times.
If that story is true (its Getbig after all) You & Your Family are Clearly Good People
Sadly the reality of trying to help some others out turned out a bad experience for you all
If only it had a better ending for everyone that would’ve been great.
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If they truly care then wouldn’t they invite one homeless person to stay with them?
I guess it’s just virtue signaling.
I took in a homeless man once for several weeks, until I found him a place with a Christian aid group.
He suffered mental illness.
The main point with the mentaloly ill, is they were once all housed by the government or Church, but now the government lets/makes them live in society, and by default, they end up on the street.
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I went to homeless tent city behind Golds Gym Venice 2 Thanksgivings in a row with Thanksgiving Food and was turned down or they acted like it was a burden for them...saying which food they didn't like... and asked for alcohol and/or weed by 90% of homeless...
Every now and then I still offer food to people waiting outside supermarket....most refuse and want cash or alcohol..just my experience in westside of los angeles..Why I stopped caring or pretending to care.
I've had MANY homeless people demand cash or booze when I offer them food...most eventually just ask for booze when honest. I know..politically incorrect..most homeless are former IBM engineers laid off by technology
I've seen different am am done.
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Haha the above statement is an epic ownage of OP! :D :D :D
No, I’m pro abortion.
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I went to homeless tent city behind Golds Gym Venice 2 Thanksgivings in a row with Thanksgiving Food and was turned down or they acted like it was a burden for them...saying which food they didn't like... and asked for alcohol and/or weed by 90% of homeless...
Every now and then I still offer food to people waiting outside supermarket....most refuse and want cash or alcohol..just my experience in westside of los angeles..Why I stopped caring or pretending to care.
I've had MANY homeless people demand cash or booze when I offer them food...most eventually just ask for booze when honest. I know..politically incorrect..most homeless are former IBM engineers laid off by technology
I've seen different am am done.
Its the sad truth. When you come with food or clothing they dont give a shit usually, money they like better but cigarettes and booze that makes them happy.
99% of homeless are alcoholics where i live, charity give them all the food and clothes they need, the money they beg is for cigarettes and alcohol. Their life revolves around finding a way to get alcohol and getting drunk 24/7 to numb themselves.
I still give them money sometimes, i know how its going to get spend but those guys are hopeless for the most part you CANNOT help them they are just not fit for society anymore and they will drink themselves to death.
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It's been said in this thread already, but most are mentally ill and should be housed in one of the many facilities we used to have here. I guess One Flew Over The Cuckoos nest opened too many eyes.
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I agree. And people against abortion should adopt
Who said they don't?
Christians are more than twice as likely to adopt.
https://adoption.org/who-adopts-the-most
http://www.ethicsdaily.com/christians-more-than-twice-as-likely-to-adopt-a-child-cms-21267
https://www.barna.com/research/5-things-you-need-to-know-about-adoption/
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If they truly care then wouldn’t they invite one homeless person to stay with them?
I guess it’s just virtue signaling.
Ever heard of the Salvation Army? Inviting the homeless to stay at your house may not be the safest or the best, for you, for your family or for the homeless. There are many other ways to provide the homeless with shelter and food.
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In the last three years I have had four different people ask if they could live in my guest room. It is partially furnished with a bed and has its own bathroom. One was a close friend who wanted to rent the room. I told them all no without a second thought. If you need help finding an apartment, I’ll help you look, drive you around, and help you evaluate the lease, but live in my home? No.
One friend was a gym buddy. The building he was living in was being sold and he had to move by December (he told me about the building sale in August). Every time I saw him, I asked how the apartment hunt was going. He never had an answer. Then December rolls around and he calls me in a panic begging to move into my guestroom. He said if I didn’t let him in, then he would have to sleep in his car! With his dog! I told him if that was true, then he would learn a valuable lesson because he had known about the need to move for at least four months and didn’t take appropriate action. “Suddenly” he was desperate, and I was supposed to save him? I think he was miffed at me because I didn’t hear from him for a long time after that. Eventually, he sent me a text telling me that he had found an apartment and was no longer homeless. ::)
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Many homeless people are mentally ill or drug addicts. Nothing wrong with giving them some change but it's crazy to let them in your house.
A tragic incident got a lot of coverage in the UK not too long ago. A noble woman saw a homeless young man and invited him to stay with her family, they brought him clothes and even helped him get a job. He ended up murdering both the woman and her teen son.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/pa/article-4944684/Homeless-man-turned-family-helped-admits-murdering-woman-son.html
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The next time someone asks me for spare change I'm going say no but offer them $100 for each finger they'll sever and sell to me. It's a piece of shit thing to do but I don't think it's technically illegal.
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Many homeless people are mentally ill or drug addicts. Nothing wrong with giving them some change but it's crazy to let them in your house.
A tragic incident got a lot of coverage in the UK not too long ago. A noble woman saw a homeless young man and invited him to stay with her family, they brought him clothes and even helped him get a job. He ended up murdering both the woman and her teen son.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/pa/article-4944684/Homeless-man-turned-family-helped-admits-murdering-woman-son.html
People are just dumb..simple as that.
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Lawsuit seeks to stop Orange County from clearing homeless encampments along Santa Ana River
A lawsuit filed Monday in federal court seeks to halt the ongoing effort to clear homeless encampments along the Santa Ana River and prevent three cities, including Costa Mesa, from citing or arresting those who violate municipal rules that prohibit camping in public areas.
The U.S. District Court complaint alleges that Orange County and the cities of Costa Mesa, Anaheim and Orange have taken actions that have effectively forced homeless people to move to the riverbed.
Now, the lawsuit states, the county is moving to push that population back into surrounding cities without a plan to provide adequate shelter and housing.
"Many people in the riverbed, including our clients, came to the riverbed because they were being criminalized in these cities," Brooke Weitzman, an attorney with the Santa Ana-based Elder Law and Disability Rights Center, said during a news conference Monday at the Anaheim Regional Transportation Intermodal Center. "They were being stopped for no reason other than being homeless. They were receiving citations for unavoidable acts like sleeping outside or carrying luggage, and they fled to the riverbed hoping for a little bit of stability."
Flanked by people holding signs reading "Housing is a human right," "Fund housing now" and "Homes = life," Weitzman said an aim of the lawsuit is that the cities named "be enjoined from continuing to stop individuals simply for looking homeless and to cite them for unavoidable actions."
"We hope that by bringing all of these entities together, [this] case will help end the game of ping pong they're playing, where people get shuffled back and forth from cities to county, from county to cities, and [the] finger-pointing about whose problem this is and who needs to resolve it," she said.
The plaintiffs are Orange County Catholic Worker, a group that provides services to the poor, and seven homeless people who live in the riverbed.
Brooke Weitzman, an attorney with the Elder Law and Disability Rights Center, addresses reporters during a news conference Monday at the Anaheim Regional Transportation Intermodal Center.
Brooke Weitzman, an attorney with the Elder Law and Disability Rights Center, addresses reporters during a news conference Monday at the Anaheim Regional Transportation Intermodal Center. (Photo by Luke Money)
In a statement Monday, Orange County Counsel Leon Page declined to comment specifically on the lawsuit.
"We have no comment on the merits of the litigation, but we have great respect for the Elder Law and Disability Rights Center and its talented attorneys and we look forward to discussing positive solutions that will benefit all stakeholders, including the population encamped in the Santa Ana riverbed," he said.
Costa Mesa spokesman Tony Dodero said Monday that the city had yet to receive the lawsuit and that he could not comment on it.
For months, Orange County officials have steadily been removing homeless encampments along the Santa Ana River trail.
In November, the county cleared out a camp along the river in Fountain Valley. Last week, a similar effort began at an encampment in Anaheim.
The latter efforts came amid nearby residents' complaints of crime, odors and other nuisances and officials' plans to remove waste and debris and do maintenance in the area.
Weitzman estimated that 800 to 1,000 people are currently living in the riverbed.
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The next time someone asks me for spare change I'm going say no but offer them $100 for each finger they'll sever and sell to me. It's a piece of shit thing to do but I don't think it's technically illegal.
lol.. bet they'd line up
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I only feel sorry for Homeless children, fuck the adults..
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I once took in a young Austrian bodybuilder down on his luck...but he was stingy with the ass...so I kicked him out. :-[
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In the last three years I have had four different people ask if they could live in my guest room. It is partially furnished with a bed and has its own bathroom. One was a close friend who wanted to rent the room. I told them all no without a second thought. If you need help finding an apartment, I’ll help you look, drive you around, and help you evaluate the lease, but live in my home? No.
One friend was a gym buddy. The building he was living in was being sold and he had to move by December (he told me about the building sale in August). Every time I saw him, I asked how the apartment hunt was going. He never had an answer. Then December rolls around and he calls me in a panic begging to move into my guestroom. He said if I didn’t let him in, then he would have to sleep in his car! With his dog! I told him if that was true, then he would learn a valuable lesson because he had known about the need to move for at least four months and didn’t take appropriate action. “Suddenly” he was desperate, and I was supposed to save him? I think he was miffed at me because I didn’t hear from him for a long time after that. Eventually, he sent me a text telling me that he had found an apartment and was no longer homeless. ::)
Damn, you're ice cold. ;D A gym buddy isn't a real friend though, that is more like a work friend. Because they never see you after hours.
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Damn, you're ice cold. ;D A gym buddy isn't a real friend though, that is more like a work friend. Because they never see you after hours.
One guy is my oldest friend around here. He asked if I wanted rent my room out to him. I told him no. We are still best buds. But he got where I was coming from and didn't take any offense.
The best way to solve a problem is to prevent it from happening in the first place. ;)
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The homeless situation here in Vegas is a major problem.
Many homeless people live under the streets in the storm drains. In fact thee was even a popular book written about it.
A while back I was in a McDonald's and ordered a sack of burgers and a couple of sodas with the intent to give item to the bums outside.
I handed the sack to one of the guys thinking that he would pass them around, but he got pissed and said, "What the fuck am I supposed to do with this!?"
Whenever we are downtown on Fremont Street (lots of bums there) we always run into street people who just ran ut of gas. My response is,, "You're lieing. Tell me something truthful and I'll give you a dollar."
Some come back with, "You're a jerk!" ..... So .... they get a dollar.
So I always carry a few one dollar bills for the honest bums.
I have yet to run into a female bum here in Vegas.
Apparently the ladies have other ways of making a buck or two.
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The homeless situation here in Vegas is a major problem.
Many homeless people live under the streets in the storm drains. In fact thee was even a popular book written about it.
A while back I was in a McDonald's and ordered a sack of burgers and a couple of sodas with the intent to give item to the bums outside.
I handed the sack to one of the guys thinking that he would pass them around, but he got pissed and said, "What the fuck am I supposed to do with this!?"
Whenever we are downtown on Fremont Street (lots of bums there) we always run into street people who just ran ut of gas. My response is,, "You're lieing. Tell me something truthful and I'll give you a dollar."
Some come back with, "You're a jerk!" ..... So .... they get a dollar.
So I always carry a few one dollar bills for the honest bums.
I have yet to run into a female bum here in Vegas.
Apparently the ladies have other ways of making a buck or two.
Jerry: "You don't see any handsome homeless"
(https://y.yarn.co/bf4a0eef-d557-4645-be71-414cb2a06c53_screenshot.jpg)
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Jerry: "You don't see any handsome homeless"
If you do see a good-looking panhandler, chances are their Lexus is parked a few blocks away.
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The homeless situation here in Vegas is a major problem.
Many homeless people live under the streets in the storm drains. In fact thee was even a popular book written about it.
A while back I was in a McDonald's and ordered a sack of burgers and a couple of sodas with the intent to give item to the bums outside.
I handed the sack to one of the guys thinking that he would pass them around, but he got pissed and said, "What the fuck am I supposed to do with this!?"
Whenever we are downtown on Fremont Street (lots of bums there) we always run into street people who just ran ut of gas. My response is,, "You're lieing. Tell me something truthful and I'll give you a dollar."
Some come back with, "You're a jerk!" ..... So .... they get a dollar.
So I always carry a few one dollar bills for the honest bums.
I have yet to run into a female bum here in Vegas.
Apparently the ladies have other ways of making a buck or two.
saw a film about the People living under vegas as you wrote...very sad.
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what about homely people ?
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Austin has a huge homeless problem. You can't pull up to a major intersection without one standing at your window. Walking down town, they are sleeping or sitting on the sidewalk. Carwashes are popular for them to hit you up for change. Just my opinion based on years of dealing with them.. Most have mental issues, or addictions, have burned every bridge they had of family that tried to help them so if you try and help them you will have no better luck. Most have no interest in leaving the streets. They are used to it, have created a system to survive and just want money to buy whatever is the addiction of choice. They have a code amongst themselves over territory and personal belongings. Stabbings are not uncommon but rarely reported when one transient violates anothers space. These folks, I don't feel bad about other than it sucks they were dealt a hand that included addiction or mental illness.
There is a smaller group of homeless that are people who were living paycheck to paycheck and fell upon an unexpected event. They do want to get back into society and they will work. Those I don't mind helping and often do.
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Props to you and this is why I have no sympathy for the homeless. If you take on in they will do shit like this or at least steal from you. My best friends dad is a good Christian man and took in a homeless man and yes he got burned. I remember the bum tried to sell me an air compressor once, hmm where does a bum acquire an air compressor?
Not sure about other places but near me I see mostly young able bodied homeless who are just lazy or on drugs choosing to be homeless. Seems like very few these days are just down on their luck and looking to get their lives back on track.
I believe Dan-o is trolling, oh.
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Damn, you're ice cold. ;D A gym buddy isn't a real friend though, that is more like a work friend. Because they never see you after hours.
No, he is real. And his gym buddy has more respect for him because of the way he was treated. If you know months in advance, then don't come begging at the last moment asking for help---it also is a clue of how he would pay rent, if charged by his "gym buddy".
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They're on the corner with a sign until they get enough for their fix.
Fuck 'em.
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The US might be the only country on earth with fat poor people. I had a lot of dealing with the homeless. I was shocked how many had disability social security checks being deposited in their bank accounts. Two guys lived in side by side tents. One got a little over one thousand a month and the other around $900. I asked them why they didn't look for a one room apartment and live together. Neither wanted to part with their money in the bank. I've also heard of professional beggars in NYC that are making $50 to $100 an hour begging on a cardboard box then go home to their houses changing into their clean clothes. I saw a guy with a Saxophone in the street playing and a fake homeless man set up almost right next to him. All the suckers were giving the "homeless" guy money pissing off the musician.
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No, he is real. And his gym buddy has more respect for him because of the way he was treated. If you know months in advance, then don't come begging at the last moment asking for help---it also is a clue of how he would pay rent, if charged by his "gym buddy".
Touché! I heard Antoine Vaillant was displaced and homeless for a while. I might take HIM in. He can pay me with training, putting together a good stack for me, and other stuff. ;D
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I believe Dan-o is trolling, oh.
Nope, that account at least is 100% true and factual. The driveway drug deal, the head lice, all of it. A well-to-do friend offered put them up in a motel for a night after we kicked the guy out. After that they were on their own. It's unfortunate, but you just can't pull that kind of shit.
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In our city we've had a sudden outbreak this Spring of 'homeless' people setting up by traffic lights, complete with little hand made signs, seats, etc. I've even seen tents and camping stoves. Always on the drivers side... then a couple of times I noticed different guys using the same spot/gear, like they were a tag-team.
I couldn't work out what was going on until I spoke to an acquaintance who works in that sector. Apparently the reason this is 'a thing' is that this stops people from passing food, trying to offer advice, etc. all they have time to do is hand over some change...
Quite ingenious really, and they don't even need to pretend to wash your windshield... :P
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Nope, that account at least is 100% true and factual. The driveway drug deal, the head lice, all of it. A well-to-do friend offered put them up in a motel for a night after we kicked the guy out. After that they were on their own. It's unfortunate, but you just can't pull that kind of shit.
Well, it was stupid. Did you ask yourself about why they have all those kids and a newborn? And the father played on your "sympathies". Best you could do is drive them or direct them to a homeless shelter.
Did he have a job? If not, how was he gonna pay you back for your "good faith"?
The sad part is that the kids are the ones to suffer, and your family had to suffer, with headlice.
In our city we've had a sudden outbreak this Spring of 'homeless' people setting up by traffic lights, complete with little hand made signs, seats, etc. I've even seen tents and camping stoves. Always on the drivers side... then a couple of times I noticed different guys using the same spot/gear, like they were a tag-team.
I couldn't work out what was going on until I spoke to an acquaintance who works in that sector. Apparently the reason this is 'a thing' is that this stops people from passing food, trying to offer advice, etc. all they have time to do is hand over some change...
Quite ingenious really, and they don't even need to pretend to wash your windshield... :P
Many make good money. Enough to buy brand new trucks and cars. Rent and house payments. All paid for by "sympathetic people". It's easier to beg and pan-handle than it is to work in a store or flip a burger. The ones who actually need help, don't get it...
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The reality is that most homeless can't be helped. They are addicts, mentally ill or in most cases both. Most will never use the public services provided to help them. Our society has advanced to the point where it is not uncomfortable enough to be homeless to prevent people from doing it. Unless there is a tremendous amount of research and money thrown at mental illness and severe penalties, such as execution, for drug dealers, homelessness will continue to get worse as the population keeps growing.
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Well, it was stupid. Did you ask yourself about why they have all those kids and a newborn? And the father played on your "sympathies". Best you could do is drive them or direct them to a homeless shelter.
Did he have a job? If not, how was he gonna pay you back for your "good faith"?
The sad part is that the kids are the ones to suffer, and your family had to suffer, with headlice.
In hindsight, it certainly was stupid. The dad talked a big game but as you might expect, he turned out to be full of shit. Maybe after he fucked up that latest living arrangement, the wife was more convinced of what a dumbass he was so it helped drive her to leave him like she needed to, for the sake of her kids and herself.
We never expected to be paid back for our 'good faith'. It was just about helping out a family in need. Anyway, my dad always told me, never lend money that you can't afford to just give away.
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Many are fucking bums who deserve to be homeless as have usually exhausted all options of friends and family offering accommodation by stealing from them or making no effort to help themselves and just lying around drunk or high as a kite on drugs so they refuse to help them further.
If one of my good friends were homeless I’d let them live with me on the understanding that it’s till they get themselves sorted, and they would probably have to sleep in the garage and do some of the housework that the woman normally does
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Many are fucking bums who deserve to be homeless as have usually exhausted all options of friends and family offering accommodation by stealing from them or making no effort to help themselves and just lying around drunk or high as a kite on drugs so they refuse to help them further.
If one of my good friends were homeless I’d let them live with me on the understanding that it’s till they get themselves sorted, and they would probably have to sleep in the garage and do some of the housework that the woman normally does
Was hoping you would chime in. ;D
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They're on the corner with a sign until they get enough for their fix.
Fuck 'em.
can you remember a time in your life when you couldn't fool yourself with obvious lies? when you actually had to try a little and wouldn't settle for bottom of the barrel "truisms"?
I'm guessing not.
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Here's a reversal of what we have been duscussing above ..
Two family members were performers in Cirque du Soleil (Mystere in Las Vegas and the other was a Cirque muscian (drums) traveling throughout Europe. Both made damn good money and never had to beg for any.
When both met up in NYC for some conference they decided to do a gymnastic workout on a sunny day on one of the grassy fields in Central Park.
So they placed their shirts and baseball caps on the grass and started doing gymnastic stuff, handstands, etc.
After about 45 minutes they returned to their shirts and caps and found a bit over $300 in nickles, dimes, and quaters along wth a sizeable number of dollar bills.
They had no intent to solicit funds but they did manage to leave that park with a feeling of gratitude for the people of NYC.
BUT ...... on their way home trough the Bronx they were beaten and robbed and left for dead!
That last sentence about the Bronx is a lie but all the rest is absolutely true.
Are there any New Yorkers here who are aware that a license is required befoe anyone can solicit or collect donations within the NYC subway system.
And by the way .... the world reknown Subway Sandwich company was actually started by two young guys making and selling Subway sandwiches in that New York Subway system.
I met them both the first few months in which they started the business and one of the original guys just recently passed away.
We called those sandwiches HOGIES way back then.
Sorry .. Off track.
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If they truly care then wouldn’t they invite one homeless person to stay with them?
I guess it’s just virtue signaling.
In Portland there's no need to invite homeless folks on to your property, some move in without an invitation. It's part of urban density program. Last week this fellow was stabbed 17 times by a homeless man who was setting up camp. Why? He asked the homeless person to move on.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/05/29/oregon-man-stabbed-17-times-after-telling-homeless-man-to-move-daughter-says.html
I care. When my nephew was homeless, My wife and I provided him a place to stay until he got back on his feet, which took a couple of months.
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Here's a reversal of what we have been duscussing above ..
Two family members were performers in Cirque du Soleil (Mystere in Las Vegas and the other was a Cirque muscian (drums) traveling throughout Europe. Both made damn good money and never had to beg for any.
When both met up in NYC for some conference they decided to do a gymnastic workout on a sunny day on one of the grassy fields in Central Park.
So they placed their shirts and baseball caps on the grass and started doing gymnastic stuff, handstands, etc.
After about 45 minutes they returned to their shirts and caps and found a bit over $300 in nickles, dimes, and quaters along wth a sizeable number of dollar bills.
They had no intent to solicit funds but they did manage to leave that park with a feeling of gratitude for the people of NYC.
BUT ...... on their way home trough the Bronx they were beaten and robbed and left for dead!
That last sentence about the Bronx is a lie but all the rest is absolutely true.
Are there any New Yorkers here who are aware that a license is required befoe anyone can solicit or collect donations within the NYC subway system.
And by the way .... the world reknown Subway Sandwich company was actually started by two young guys making and selling Subway sandwiches in that New York Subway system.
I met them both the first few months in which they started the business and one of the original guys just recently passed away.
We called those sandwiches HOGIES way back then.
Sorry .. Off track.
I don't think so. They were in Connecticut and started out as Peters Submarine Sandwiches. I used to own a franchise.
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I do not understand why they are all so fat.
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can you remember a time in your life when you couldn't fool yourself with obvious lies? when you actually had to try a little and wouldn't settle for bottom of the barrel "truisms"?
I'm guessing not.
Can you recall a time in your existence when you actually thought instead of "felt"? When you held that people are responsible for themselves? Give a man a fish, and he's not hungry for a few hours. Teach a man to fish and he's never hungry again.
Give a bum some money and as soon as he reaches his pusher's price, he's high for hours. Give him the finger and it will take longer for him to reach that price. And maybe, just maybe, he'll have a lucid moment. And rejoin humanity instead of sponging off it.
Speaking of which, can you remember a time in your life when you had a lucid moment? I think not.
As a good friend used to say, thus endeth the lesson for today.
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Can you recall a time in your existence when you actually thought instead of "felt"? When you held that people are responsible for themselves? Give a man a fish, and he's not hungry for a few hours. Teach a man to fish and he's never hungry again.
Give a bum some money and as soon as he reaches his pusher's price, he's high for hours. Give him the finger and it will take longer for him to reach that price. And maybe, just maybe, he'll have a lucid moment. And rejoin humanity instead of sponging off it.
Speaking of which, can you remember a time in your life when you had a lucid moment? I think not.
As a good friend used to say, thus endeth the lesson for today.
The fog of lies. Hey, let's talk about that lesson.
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The fog of lies. Hey, let's talk about that lesson.
*SNICKER*
To paraphrase..."Let he who is without human DNA fling the first poo"... You're over your head in the shallow end of the gene pool, chimpster. Go suck a manana, Lancelot Link.
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In hindsight, it certainly was stupid. The dad talked a big game but as you might expect, he turned out to be full of shit. Maybe after he fucked up that latest living arrangement, the wife was more convinced of what a dumbass he was so it helped drive her to leave him like she needed to, for the sake of her kids and herself.
We never expected to be paid back for our 'good faith'. It was just about helping out a family in need. Anyway, my dad always told me, never lend money that you can't afford to just give away.
The wife was part of the problem as well. As she chose that man, and had several kids with him. And a newborn. And she was "ok" with that behavior. She had a part in that as well. And allowing her kids to be unkempt. She was also convinced of her own folly as well.
In many places in the states, if that person is a 30 day resident, then basically they have "certain rights". And you have to file an eviction.
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Nope, that account at least is 100% true and factual. The driveway drug deal, the head lice, all of it. A well-to-do friend offered put them up in a motel for a night after we kicked the guy out. After that they were on their own. It's unfortunate, but you just can't pull that kind of shit.
I see you are getting a lot of crap from people so I thought I would chime in. There are people on this thread who wouldn't put someone out if they were on fire because they are late to their parole officer meeting. You did a good deed. It didn't pay off (not that you were looking for a payoff, but it didn't get the result you expected), and you learned from it but you tried. That's a good thing. That people on here try and make it out to be a bad thing says more about them and their morals and character than it does yours.
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AGNOSTIC, I just searched Subway on the net and it appears that you are correct ....
"Back in 1965, Fred DeLuca set out to fulfill his dream of becoming a medical doctor. Searching for a way to help pay for his education, a family friend suggested he open a submarine sandwich shop., etc., etc."
But ... Is it possible that the two Subway sandwich guys we purchased Subway sandwiches from in the NYC subway were eary franchise owners of the same company because they were definitely called SUBWAY sandwiches?
I and the others who were there at the time have been telling my version of the Subway sandwich history for a long time now ..... and hate to see if it was a total error on our part.
Thanks, Ag.
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I see you are getting a lot of crap from people so I thought I would chime in. There are people on this thread who wouldn't put someone out if they were on fire because they are late to their parole officer meeting. You did a good deed. It didn't pay off (not that you were looking for a payoff, but it didn't get the result you expected), and you learned from it but you tried. That's a good thing. That people on here try and make it out to be a bad thing says more about them and their morals and character than it does yours.
Thanks, Ag. I don't take the crap personally. The whole ordeal happened some 20 yrs ago so I'm a lot older and hopefully a little wiser now.
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Thanks, Ag. I don't take the crap personally. The whole ordeal happened some 20 yrs ago so I'm a lot older and hopefully a little wiser now.
Anyone who has a heart has probably been taken advantage of at some time. That you tried is admirable
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In Los Angeles Rent control says that you MUST evict anyone from your property in court..homeless squatters have become popular because before eviction... squatter by law gets 2 MONTHS NOTICE TO RESPOND..THEN THEY GET AN OVERCROWDED COURT DATE FOR EVICTON SO OFTEN 6 MONTHS FoR COURT DATE...NEW TREND IN RENT CONTROL FOR SQUATTERS TO USE THE EVICTION LAW...SOMETIMES TAKES 6 MONTHS TO GET THE FUCKER OUT AND THEIR HOMELESS SO THREATS OF RUINING CREDIT DONT MATTER....JUST LIKE RUINING APARTMENT DOESN'T MATTER TO THEM....
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Can you recall a time in your existence when you actually thought instead of "felt"?
You accuse me of your own offence.
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AGNOSTIC, I just searched Subway on the net and it appears that you are correct ....
"Back in 1965, Fred DeLuca set out to fulfill his dream of becoming a medical doctor. Searching for a way to help pay for his education, a family friend suggested he open a submarine sandwich shop., etc., etc."
But ... Is it possible that the two Subway sandwich guys we purchased Subway sandwiches from in the NYC subway were eary franchise owners of the same company because they were definitely called SUBWAY sandwiches?
I and the others who were there at the time have been telling my version of the Subway sandwich history for a long time now ..... and hate to see if it was a total error on our part.
Thanks, Ag.
Stunt, the last thing I want to do is cast any doubt on your version. It could have happened. I was simply not aware of them being in New York and selling in the subway systems. They didn't get their start there, and they already had a successful sandwich shop before expanding into the Subway franchise. I really don't know what to tell you other than it could have been two guys who were expanding the franchise into New York and were doing that.
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In Los Angeles Rent control says that you MUST evict anyone from your property in court..homeless squatters have become popular because before eviction... squatter by law gets 2 MONTHS NOTICE TO RESPOND..THEN THEY GET AN OVERCROWDED COURT DATE FOR EVICTON SO OFTEN 6 MONTHS FoR COURT DATE...NEW TREND IN RENT CONTROL FOR SQUATTERS TO USE THE EVICTION LAW...SOMETIMES TAKES 6 MONTHS TO GET THE FUCKER OUT AND THEIR HOMELESS SO THREATS OF RUINING CREDIT DONT MATTER....JUST LIKE RUINING APARTMENT DOESN'T MATTER TO THEM....
You'll love this.... In Texas, if you invite someone into your home, for a single night... and they have their clothes, toothbrush, etc... police can't evict them. you must go through the eviction process that can take 90 days. Now most low lifes aren't aware of this law and when the police show up most just pack up and leave, but a savvy low life will call the bluff and demand to be evicted...
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You'll love this.... In Texas, if you invite someone into your home, for a single night... and they have their clothes, toothbrush, etc... police can't evict them. you must go through the eviction process that can take 90 days. Now most low lifes aren't aware of this law and when the police show up most just pack up and leave, but a savvy low life will call the bluff and demand to be evicted...
You'd be surprised. One of the dumbest guys I know, knew how difficult it is to get rid of someone who moves into your house.
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You accuse me of your own offence.
Offence? Yours is more offal (look it up). I shall tell you what "offends" such as you. The truth. I have no need to
"accuse" anyone, least of all you. Your own words scream the fact of your ignorance in such matters and your subsequent denial of what is true.
Keep clicking your heels.
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AG, I think that you are right when you said that "it could have been two guys who were expanding the franchise into New York and were doing that" in the subway.
I'm a weekly Subway fan (foot-long, Italian herb and cheese roll' tuna and swiss, and soak the bread with lots of vinegar, and add everything, pls) so I usually end up tell my version of the story while my sandwich is being constructed and two weeks ago the manager told me that one of those Subway guys had passed away as a very wealthy individual, But she was reluctant to agree that they were the original founders.
Here's a question if you'd care to answer ... If the same individuals who founded the Subway Sandwich company stillowned that company today with 400,000 franchizees .... how do those original owners receive their income?
A yearly franchise fee?
A percentage of each store's daily income?
By selling the sandwich ingredients to the store managers?
__________?
Even if each one of those 400,000 stores were to send $1 a day to the original guys, it would be an astronomical daily income.
I recently spoke to a senior In-n-Out executive who told me that that fast food chain was owned by one individual, the daughter of the original founder. She steped in after her brother passed away.
I have never been to an In-n-Out that wasn't packed with customers.
She must be a daily billionaire.
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I'd like to add that all GetBiggers could help the homeless just a little bit by simply buying an extra burger ( a Happy Neal wold be appropriate) and giving it to the first hungry individual tou see upon the streets ... Bum or not, it makes no difference!
Do this enougt and you'll eventually make someone smile at least.
A fill an empty stomach ,,,, or evenmake you laugh when someone says, "What the fuck am I supposed to do with this?!"
But do your best not to respond with the obvious .... "Stick it up your ass, dude!"
I'm planning to head on down to Fremont Street (Bum City) with a couple of burgers in a paper bag and even a cold beer if that's possible.
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I'd like to add that all GetBiggers could help the homeless just a little bit by simply buying an extra burger ( a Happy Neal wold be appropriate) and giving it to the first hungry individual tou see upon the streets ... Bum or not, it makes no difference!
Do this enougt and you'll eventually make someone smile at least.
A fill an empty stomach ,,,, or evenmake you laugh when someone says, "What the fuck am I supposed to do with this?!"
But do your best not to respond with the obvious .... "Stick it up your ass, dude!"
I'm planning to head on down to Fremont Street (Bum City) with a couple of burgers in a paper bag and even a cold beer if that's possible.
Who is this Happy Neal that you speak of?
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SF, Good eye! LOL
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AG, I think that you are right when you said that "it could have been two guys who were expanding the franchise into New York and were doing that" in the subway.
I'm a weekly Subway fan (foot-long, Italian herb and cheese roll' tuna and swiss, and soak the bread with lots of vinegar, and add everything, pls) so I usually end up tell my version of the story while my sandwich is being constructed and two weeks ago the manager told me that one of those Subway guys had passed away as a very wealthy individual, But she was reluctant to agree that they were the original founders.
Here's a question if you'd care to answer ... If the same individuals who founded the Subway Sandwich company stillowned that company today with 400,000 franchizees .... how do those original owners receive their income?
A yearly franchise fee?
A percentage of each store's daily income?
By selling the sandwich ingredients to the store managers?
__________?
Even if each one of those 400,000 stores were to send $1 a day to the original guys, it would be an astronomical daily income.
I recently spoke to a senior In-n-Out executive who told me that that fast food chain was owned by one individual, the daughter of the original founder. She steped in after her brother passed away.
I have never been to an In-n-Out that wasn't packed with customers.
She must be a daily billionaire.
The Subway organization is interesting. I am only aware of the regional corporation aspect of it. They are like the Mafia without the violence. Ours was headquartered in San Antonio. Before someone can open a franchise they have to go through a vetting. Once in the "family" they are encouraged to expand expand expand. My family owned around 20 in the Austin area. Most stores are sold as packages. If you want the store making $30K a month, you have to buy my other two stores making $4K and 3K a month. As you expand you get more power, more preferential treatment. There was an 8 mile rule years ago, no subway could open within that distance of another. Over time that rule was ignored so the big players could encroach on your 4K a month store with their 15K a month store. You could complain to corporate but they would give you some loophole excuse. Corporate reps would also give inside information to their favorite owners about locations coming open etc etc.
Each store pays 11% of their gross sales to corporate as a franchise fee each month. I think it was every 5 years it was mandatory you remodel your store, using their contractors and to their specifications. If they want to sell breakfast, you are now buying machines to make breakfast and scheduling your employees to cover the new hours until they decide 4 months later to cancel the breakfast. You buy all your products from their distributors. For all that you get advertising, bulk rate buying, and name recognition.
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Young people are often wise to the ins and outs of eviction. A couple of years ago, my grandson was screwing up his life and frustrating his parents. Thinking tough love would set him right, my daughter ordered him out of the house during the heat of an argument. He immediately responded that he could not be 'evicted' without notice. When the police showed up, they confirmed that anyone receiving mail where they are staying had tenant's rights which requires a 30 day legal notice before they can be evicted.
This happened three years ago. My grandson still lives here. He's not as argumentative as he was when he was 18, which helps to keep the peace. Otherwise, he hasn't changed much. Aside from doing his own laundry and fixing most of his own meals, he contributes nothing around the house. He doesn't pay rent. His easy life is as much his parents fault as it is his. My hope is that he will eventually want to move out on his own. We'll see.
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Young people are often wise to the ins and outs of eviction. A couple of years ago, my grandson was screwing up his life and frustrating his parents. Thinking tough love would set him right, my daughter ordered him out of the house during the heat of an argument. He immediately responded that he could not be 'evicted' without notice. When the police showed up, they confirmed that anyone receiving mail where they are staying had tenant's rights which requires a 30 day legal notice before they can be evicted.
This happened three years ago. My grandson still lives here. He's not as argumentative as he was when he was 18, which helps to keep the peace. Otherwise, he hasn't changed much. Aside from doing his own laundry and fixing most of his own meals, he contributes nothing around the house. He doesn't pay rent. His easy life is as much his parents fault as it is his. My hope is that he will eventually want to move out on his own. We'll see.
If he was a bodibilder would you think differently ?
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If he was a bodibilder would you think differently ?
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My ex and I took in a homeless family once. Dad, mom, and 4 darling girls. Until we had to kick them out after a week when the dad did drug deals in our driveway while I was away at work. And those darling kids gave us and my young son head lice. Good times.
LOL no good deed goes unpunished
never give the homeless money, they will just use it on their addiction
i've given them food, they typically said they wanted me to buy them something else :D
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LOL no good deed goes unpunished
never give the homeless money, they will just use it on their addiction
i've given them food, they typically said they wanted me to buy them something else :D
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what is they were wearing an old Full Blown 2004 Tour T Shirt?
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I'd like to add that all GetBiggers could help the homeless just a little bit by simply buying an extra burger ( a Happy Neal wold be appropriate) and giving it to the first hungry individual tou see upon the streets ... Bum or not, it makes no difference!
Do this enougt and you'll eventually make someone smile at least.
A fill an empty stomach ,,,, or evenmake you laugh when someone says, "What the fuck am I supposed to do with this?!"
But do your best not to respond with the obvious .... "Stick it up your ass, dude!"
I'm planning to head on down to Fremont Street (Bum City) with a couple of burgers in a paper bag and even a cold beer if that's possible.
I'm very selective with helping people. I support a animal facility in Playa Del Carmen because I love animals.. and I donate money to what I think are good causes on a monthly basis
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Young people are often wise to the ins and outs of eviction. A couple of years ago, my grandson was screwing up his life and frustrating his parents. Thinking tough love would set him right, my daughter ordered him out of the house during the heat of an argument. He immediately responded that he could not be 'evicted' without notice. When the police showed up, they confirmed that anyone receiving mail where they are staying had tenant's rights which requires a 30 day legal notice before they can be evicted.
This happened three years ago. My grandson still lives here. He's not as argumentative as he was when he was 18, which helps to keep the peace. Otherwise, he hasn't changed much. Aside from doing his own laundry and fixing most of his own meals, he contributes nothing around the house. He doesn't pay rent. His easy life is as much his parents fault as it is his. My hope is that he will eventually want to move out on his own. We'll see.
That's exactly right. Losers tend to be very well schooled in such things.
In any case, the parents are to blame (and by extension so are you). How this kid turned out is totally their responsibility. They had every opportunity to mold him, shape his values, and steer him in the right direction (education, career, saving, respect for authority, moral compass, etc). Now they have a bum living in their house. Gee, how did that happen? As he neared the completion of high school, he should have been guided toward life after graduation: college, community college, the military, etc. If he were in school, I would let him stay at home rent free while he completes his degree. One year post graduation, I would make him pay rent equivalent to what he would pay if he had 1-2 roommates in the local community. Without telling him, I would deposit all that money into a savings account for him. After one year of doing so, I would tell him, that the option to live at home expires in one more year and he should plan to move accordingly. At the end of year two (assuming he stayed that long), I would make him move out, but surprise him with the savings account filled with his rent money. If his "rent" was 600/month, his account would have $14,400 in it. That is a nice purse with which to enter the world with a degree under your belt. If my kid were working on a graduate or professional degree he could continue to live at home rent free until he graduated.
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HAWAII ... A while back ... If a TENANT refused to pay his rent ... you could change the lock and lock him out.
Now if you lock him out, he could move into a hotel room .... and you can guess who becomes responsible to pay that hotel bill.
Above is providing that the law has not been changed recently.
And you can lose land (vacant property) if a squatter squats on it for a brief periood of time.
This is a big problem for those tourists who bought a cheap piece of vacant land on the side of a volcano (dormant or otherwise) and who have never visited that piece of land over an unrecalled period of time.
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Young people are often wise to the ins and outs of eviction. A couple of years ago, my grandson was screwing up his life and frustrating his parents. Thinking tough love would set him right, my daughter ordered him out of the house during the heat of an argument. He immediately responded that he could not be 'evicted' without notice. When the police showed up, they confirmed that anyone receiving mail where they are staying had tenant's rights which requires a 30 day legal notice before they can be evicted.
This happened three years ago. My grandson still lives here. He's not as argumentative as he was when he was 18, which helps to keep the peace. Otherwise, he hasn't changed much. Aside from doing his own laundry and fixing most of his own meals, he contributes nothing around the house. He doesn't pay rent. His easy life is as much his parents fault as it is his. My hope is that he will eventually want to move out on his own. We'll see.
Pardon me for being nosy Prime, but if you don't mind me asking:
a) why didn't your daughter/you go ahead and serve such notice
b) has he worked this past 3 years
c) how old is he now
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Too old!
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Ladies are not impressed by a 21 yr-old kid who still lives at home and doesn't pay rent. That is, if he even cares what the ladies think. He must not have much self-respect to be such a freeloader. So he will probably stay there as long as he's allowed to. Sad! :'(
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Ladies are not impressed by a 21 yr-old kid who still lives at home and doesn't pay rent. That is, if he even cares what the ladies think. He must not have much self-respect to be such a freeloader. So he will probably stay there as long as he's allowed to. Sad! :'(
Not always. I've seen good looking mama's boys living at home, not paying rent, spending all their money on a nice flashy car and nice clothes, attracting good looking ladies. Ladies who live in the moment overlook the "living at home with mom" part.
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If he was a bodibilder would you think differently ?
Nope.
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LOL no good deed goes unpunished
never give the homeless money, they will just use it on their addiction
i've given them food, they typically said they wanted me to buy them something else :D
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When you give cash, you have no idea what the person will use it for. Anyway, it's a gift and gifts should not have strings attached. My generous daughter buys these folks fast food or dog food for those who panhandle with their dogs at their side.
Both my son and son-in-law are veterans. They scoff at panhandlers who use this to evoke sympathy. Veterans benefits may not provide you an income to live in luxury, but it does pay enough to survive. This is even more so for disabled vets. Also disabled vets get SSDI and are eligible for Medicare and Tricare health insurance. If a person has a dishonorable discharge, then it's 'too bad, so sad'.
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Ladies are not impressed by a 21 yr-old kid who still lives at home and doesn't pay rent. That is, if he even cares what the ladies think. He must not have much self-respect to be such a freeloader. So he will probably stay there as long as he's allowed to. Sad! :'(
a 21 year old won't get rejected just because he lives at home, that's still college age
it looks bad once you turn 23
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