Why do people pretend to care about the homeless?

[Hulkotron]

I do not understand why they are all so fat.

[The Scott]

can you remember a time in your life when you couldn't fool yourself with obvious lies? when you actually had to try a little and wouldn't settle for bottom of the barrel "truisms"?

I'm guessing not.

Can you recall a time in your existence when you actually thought instead of "felt"?    When you held that people are responsible for themselves?  Give a man a fish, and he's not hungry for a few hours.  Teach a man to fish and he's never hungry again.


Give a bum some money and as soon as he reaches his pusher's price, he's high for hours.  Give him the finger and it will take longer for him to reach that price.  And maybe, just maybe, he'll have a lucid moment. And rejoin humanity instead of sponging off it.


Speaking of which, can you remember a time in your life when you had a lucid moment?   I think not. 

As a good friend used to say, thus endeth the lesson for today.

[dr.chimps]

Can you recall a time in your existence when you actually thought instead of "felt"?    When you held that people are responsible for themselves?  Give a man a fish, and he's not hungry for a few hours.  Teach a man to fish and he's never hungry again.


Give a bum some money and as soon as he reaches his pusher's price, he's high for hours.  Give him the finger and it will take longer for him to reach that price.  And maybe, just maybe, he'll have a lucid moment. And rejoin humanity instead of sponging off it.


Speaking of which, can you remember a time in your life when you had a lucid moment?   I think not. 

As a good friend used to say, thus endeth the lesson for today.

The fog of lies. Hey, let's talk about that lesson.

[The Scott]

The fog of lies. Hey, let's talk about that lesson.

*SNICKER*

To paraphrase..."Let he who is without human DNA fling the first poo"...  You're over your head in the shallow end of the gene pool, chimpster.  Go suck a manana, Lancelot Link.

[Parker]

In hindsight, it certainly was stupid.  The dad talked a big game but as you might expect, he turned out to be full of shit.  Maybe after he fucked up that latest living arrangement, the wife was more convinced of what a dumbass he was so it helped drive her to leave him like she needed to, for the sake of her kids and herself.

We never expected to be paid back for our 'good faith'.  It was just about helping out a family in need.  Anyway, my dad always told me, never lend money that you can't afford to just give away.

The wife was part of the problem as well. As she chose that man, and had several kids with him. And a newborn. And she was "ok" with that behavior. She had a part in that as well. And allowing her kids to be unkempt. She was also convinced of her own folly as well.

In many places in the states, if that person is a 30 day resident, then basically they have "certain rights". And you have to file an eviction.

[Agnostic007]

Nope, that account at least is 100% true and factual.  The driveway drug deal, the head lice, all of it.  A well-to-do friend offered put them up in a motel for a night after we kicked the guy out.  After that they were on their own.  It's unfortunate, but you just can't pull that kind of shit.

I see you are getting a lot of crap from people so I thought I would chime in. There are people on this thread who wouldn't put someone out if they were on fire because they are late to their parole officer meeting. You did a good deed. It didn't pay off (not that you were looking for a payoff, but it didn't get the result you expected), and you learned from it but you tried. That's a good thing. That people on here try and make it out to be a bad thing says more about them and their morals and character than it does yours.

[stuntmovie]

AGNOSTIC, I just searched Subway on the net and it appears that you are correct ....

"Back in 1965, Fred DeLuca set out to fulfill his dream of becoming a medical doctor. Searching for a way to help pay for his education, a family friend suggested he open a submarine sandwich shop., etc., etc."

But ... Is it possible that the two Subway sandwich guys we purchased Subway sandwiches from in the NYC subway  were eary franchise owners of the same company because they were definitely called SUBWAY sandwiches?

I and the others who were there at the time have been telling my version of the Subway sandwich history for a long time now ..... and hate to see if it was a total error on our part.

Thanks, Ag.

[Dan-O]

I see you are getting a lot of crap from people so I thought I would chime in. There are people on this thread who wouldn't put someone out if they were on fire because they are late to their parole officer meeting. You did a good deed. It didn't pay off (not that you were looking for a payoff, but it didn't get the result you expected), and you learned from it but you tried. That's a good thing. That people on here try and make it out to be a bad thing says more about them and their morals and character than it does yours.

Thanks, Ag.  I don't take the crap personally.  The whole ordeal happened some 20 yrs ago so I'm a lot older and hopefully a little wiser now.

[Agnostic007]

Thanks, Ag.  I don't take the crap personally.  The whole ordeal happened some 20 yrs ago so I'm a lot older and hopefully a little wiser now.

Anyone who has a heart has probably been taken advantage of at some time. That you tried is admirable

[Notomorrow]

In Los Angeles Rent control says that you MUST evict anyone from your property in court..homeless squatters have become popular because before eviction... squatter by law gets 2 MONTHS NOTICE TO RESPOND..THEN THEY GET AN OVERCROWDED COURT DATE FOR EVICTON SO OFTEN 6 MONTHS FoR COURT DATE...NEW TREND IN RENT CONTROL FOR SQUATTERS TO USE THE EVICTION LAW...SOMETIMES TAKES 6 MONTHS TO GET THE FUCKER OUT AND THEIR HOMELESS SO THREATS OF RUINING CREDIT DONT MATTER....JUST LIKE RUINING APARTMENT DOESN'T MATTER TO THEM....

[cephissus]

Can you recall a time in your existence when you actually thought instead of "felt"?

You accuse me of your own offence.

[Agnostic007]

AGNOSTIC, I just searched Subway on the net and it appears that you are correct ....

"Back in 1965, Fred DeLuca set out to fulfill his dream of becoming a medical doctor. Searching for a way to help pay for his education, a family friend suggested he open a submarine sandwich shop., etc., etc."

But ... Is it possible that the two Subway sandwich guys we purchased Subway sandwiches from in the NYC subway  were eary franchise owners of the same company because they were definitely called SUBWAY sandwiches?

I and the others who were there at the time have been telling my version of the Subway sandwich history for a long time now ..... and hate to see if it was a total error on our part.

Thanks, Ag.

Stunt, the last thing I want to do is cast any doubt on your version. It could have happened. I was simply not aware of them being in New York and selling in the subway systems. They didn't get their start there, and they already had a successful sandwich shop before expanding into the Subway franchise. I really don't know what to tell you other than it could have been two guys who were expanding the franchise into New York and were doing that.

[Agnostic007]

In Los Angeles Rent control says that you MUST evict anyone from your property in court..homeless squatters have become popular because before eviction... squatter by law gets 2 MONTHS NOTICE TO RESPOND..THEN THEY GET AN OVERCROWDED COURT DATE FOR EVICTON SO OFTEN 6 MONTHS FoR COURT DATE...NEW TREND IN RENT CONTROL FOR SQUATTERS TO USE THE EVICTION LAW...SOMETIMES TAKES 6 MONTHS TO GET THE FUCKER OUT AND THEIR HOMELESS SO THREATS OF RUINING CREDIT DONT MATTER....JUST LIKE RUINING APARTMENT DOESN'T MATTER TO THEM....

You'll love this.... In Texas, if you invite someone into your home, for a single night... and they have their clothes, toothbrush, etc... police can't evict them. you must go through the eviction process that can take 90 days. Now most low lifes aren't aware of this law and when the police show up most just pack up and leave, but a savvy low life will call the bluff and demand to be evicted...

[BayGBM]

You'll love this.... In Texas, if you invite someone into your home, for a single night... and they have their clothes, toothbrush, etc... police can't evict them. you must go through the eviction process that can take 90 days. Now most low lifes aren't aware of this law and when the police show up most just pack up and leave, but a savvy low life will call the bluff and demand to be evicted...

You'd be surprised. One of the dumbest guys I know, knew how difficult it is to get rid of someone who moves into your house.

[The Scott]

You accuse me of your own offence.

Offence?  Yours is more offal (look it up).  I shall tell you what "offends" such as you.  The truth.   I have no need to
"accuse" anyone, least of all you. Your own words scream the fact of your ignorance in such matters and your subsequent denial of what is true. 

Keep clicking your heels.

[stuntmovie]

AG, I think that you are right when you said that "it could have been two guys who were expanding the franchise into New York and were doing that" in the subway.

I'm a weekly Subway fan (foot-long, Italian herb and cheese roll' tuna and swiss, and soak the bread with lots of vinegar, and add everything, pls) so I usually end up tell my version of the story while my sandwich is being constructed and two weeks ago the manager told me that one of those Subway guys had passed away as a very wealthy individual, But she was reluctant to agree that they were the original founders.

Here's a question if you'd care to answer ... If the same individuals who founded the Subway Sandwich company stillowned that company today with 400,000 franchizees .... how do those original owners receive their income?

A yearly franchise fee?
A percentage of each store's daily income?
By selling the sandwich ingredients to the store managers?
__________?

Even if each one of those 400,000 stores were to send $1 a day to the original guys, it would be an astronomical daily income.

I recently spoke to a senior In-n-Out executive who told me that that fast food chain was owned by one individual, the daughter of the original founder. She  steped in after her brother passed away.

I have never been to an In-n-Out that wasn't packed with customers.

She must be a daily billionaire.

[stuntmovie]

I'd like to add that all GetBiggers could help the homeless just a little bit by simply buying an extra burger ( a Happy Neal wold be appropriate)  and giving it to the first hungry individual tou see upon the streets ... Bum or not, it makes no difference!

Do this enougt and you'll eventually make someone smile at least.

A fill an empty stomach ,,,, or evenmake you laugh when someone says, "What the fuck am I supposed to do with this?!"

But do your best not to respond with the obvious .... "Stick it up your ass, dude!"

I'm planning to head on down to Fremont Street (Bum City) with a couple of burgers in a paper bag and even a cold beer if that's possible.

[SF1900]

I'd like to add that all GetBiggers could help the homeless just a little bit by simply buying an extra burger ( a Happy Neal wold be appropriate)  and giving it to the first hungry individual tou see upon the streets ... Bum or not, it makes no difference!

Do this enougt and you'll eventually make someone smile at least.

A fill an empty stomach ,,,, or evenmake you laugh when someone says, "What the fuck am I supposed to do with this?!"

But do your best not to respond with the obvious .... "Stick it up your ass, dude!"

I'm planning to head on down to Fremont Street (Bum City) with a couple of burgers in a paper bag and even a cold beer if that's possible.

Who is this Happy Neal that you speak of?

[stuntmovie]

SF, Good eye! LOL

[Agnostic007]

AG, I think that you are right when you said that "it could have been two guys who were expanding the franchise into New York and were doing that" in the subway.

I'm a weekly Subway fan (foot-long, Italian herb and cheese roll' tuna and swiss, and soak the bread with lots of vinegar, and add everything, pls) so I usually end up tell my version of the story while my sandwich is being constructed and two weeks ago the manager told me that one of those Subway guys had passed away as a very wealthy individual, But she was reluctant to agree that they were the original founders.

Here's a question if you'd care to answer ... If the same individuals who founded the Subway Sandwich company stillowned that company today with 400,000 franchizees .... how do those original owners receive their income?

A yearly franchise fee?
A percentage of each store's daily income?
By selling the sandwich ingredients to the store managers?
__________?

Even if each one of those 400,000 stores were to send $1 a day to the original guys, it would be an astronomical daily income.

I recently spoke to a senior In-n-Out executive who told me that that fast food chain was owned by one individual, the daughter of the original founder. She  steped in after her brother passed away.

I have never been to an In-n-Out that wasn't packed with customers.

She must be a daily billionaire.

The Subway organization is interesting. I am only aware of the regional corporation aspect of it. They are like the Mafia without the violence. Ours was headquartered in San Antonio. Before someone can open a franchise they have to go through a vetting. Once in the "family" they are encouraged to expand expand expand. My family owned around 20 in the Austin area. Most stores are sold as packages. If you want the store making $30K a month, you have to buy my other two stores making $4K and 3K a month.  As you expand you get more power, more preferential treatment. There was an 8 mile rule years ago, no subway could open within that distance of another. Over time that rule was ignored so the big players could encroach on your 4K a month store with their 15K a month store.  You could complain to corporate but they would give you some loophole excuse. Corporate reps  would also give inside information to their favorite owners about locations coming open etc etc.

Each store pays 11% of their gross sales to corporate as a franchise fee each month. I think it was every 5 years it was mandatory you remodel your store, using their contractors and to their specifications. If they want  to sell breakfast, you are now buying machines to make breakfast and scheduling your employees to cover the new hours until they decide 4 months later to cancel the breakfast. You buy all your products from their distributors. For all that you get advertising, bulk rate buying, and name recognition.

[Primemuscle]

Young people are often wise to the ins and outs of eviction. A couple of years ago, my grandson was screwing up his life and frustrating his parents. Thinking tough love would set him right, my daughter ordered him out of the house during the heat of an argument. He immediately responded that he could not be 'evicted' without notice. When the police showed up, they confirmed that anyone receiving mail where they are staying had tenant's rights which requires a 30 day legal notice before they can be evicted.

This happened three years ago. My grandson still lives here. He's not as argumentative as he was when he was 18, which helps to keep the peace. Otherwise, he hasn't changed much. Aside from doing his own laundry and fixing most of his own meals, he contributes nothing around the house. He doesn't pay rent. His easy life is as much his parents fault as it is his. My hope is that he will eventually want to move out on his own. We'll see.   

[Board_SHERIF]

Young people are often wise to the ins and outs of eviction. A couple of years ago, my grandson was screwing up his life and frustrating his parents. Thinking tough love would set him right, my daughter ordered him out of the house during the heat of an argument. He immediately responded that he could not be 'evicted' without notice. When the police showed up, they confirmed that anyone receiving mail where they are staying had tenant's rights which requires a 30 day legal notice before they can be evicted.

This happened three years ago. My grandson still lives here. He's not as argumentative as he was when he was 18, which helps to keep the peace. Otherwise, he hasn't changed much. Aside from doing his own laundry and fixing most of his own meals, he contributes nothing around the house. He doesn't pay rent. His easy life is as much his parents fault as it is his. My hope is that he will eventually want to move out on his own. We'll see.   

If he was a bodibilder would you think differently ?

[HTexan]

If he was a bodibilder would you think differently ?

[Earl1972]

My ex and I took in a homeless family once.  Dad, mom, and 4 darling girls.  Until we had to kick them out after a week when the dad did drug deals in our driveway while I was away at work.  And those darling kids gave us and my young son head lice.  Good times.

LOL no good deed goes unpunished

never give the homeless money, they will just use it on their addiction

i've given them food, they typically said they wanted me to buy them something else

E

[NelsonMuntz]

LOL no good deed goes unpunished

never give the homeless money, they will just use it on their addiction

i've given them food, they typically said they wanted me to buy them something else

E

what is they were wearing an old Full Blown 2004 Tour T Shirt?