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Title: Charles "Definition" Griffen is the dark horse for 2018 Mr. O.
Post by: Wiggs on June 15, 2018, 07:26:19 AM
He's also a future top 3 Mr. O. That back lat spread is very similar to Ronnie at his lighter weight. Once he nails his Olympia level conditioning, alot of people are gonna be left in the dust.  His first show was in 2014....Not pro show.  First show as an amateur. He's 37, 5'9. He has the goods to beat everyone sans Heath...for now.  I'd love to see in a year against Phil.  I give him top 10 this year.


Title: Re: Charles "Definition" Griffen is the dark horse for 2018 Mr. O.
Post by: Irongrip400 on June 15, 2018, 07:44:02 AM
Post a pic, not a video. Not trying to get outed at lunch when the sounds of "let's see the glutes" come out of my phone from your imbedded YouTube link.  ;D
Title: Re: Charles "Definition" Griffen is the dark horse for 2018 Mr. O.
Post by: Explorerspl on June 15, 2018, 07:45:14 AM
Barely beat akim(most people thought akim won), who isn't even a top 10 mr. O finisher.

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Title: Re: Charles "Definition" Griffen is the dark horse for 2018 Mr. O.
Post by: Wiggs on June 15, 2018, 07:48:14 AM
Barely beat akim(most people thought akim won), who isn't even a top 10 mr. O finisher.

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Phil barely beat Darrem Charles in his first pro show...

This dude is oozing potential. Assuming he doesn't get injured or quit, he'll do very well.
Title: Re: Charles "Definition" Griffen is the dark horse for 2018 Mr. O.
Post by: stuntmovie on June 15, 2018, 08:38:18 AM
Not following the pro contests any longer to make an accurate guess as to how well he will do in the "O", but this is a shot of Charles ,,, I think!
Title: Re: Charles "Definition" Griffen is the dark horse for 2018 Mr. O.
Post by: Explorerspl on June 15, 2018, 08:42:31 AM
Phil barely beat Darrem Charles in his first pro show...

This dude is oozing potential. Assuming he doesn't get injured or quit, he'll do very well.

Heath was 26,this guy is 37
Title: Re: Charles "Definition" Griffen is the dark horse for 2018 Mr. O.
Post by: dr.chimps on June 15, 2018, 08:47:36 AM
2014, eh? Now it's 2018.  Has science sorted flat-earth stuff in those  years?
Title: Re: Charles "Definition" Griffen is the dark horse for 2018 Mr. O.
Post by: illuminati on June 15, 2018, 09:15:27 AM
Calf’s no longer required at top level then,
Good comparison poses between him & wolf for worst calf’s

Needs a bit more thigh sweep.

Otherwise a Great looking Physique.
Title: Re: Charles "Definition" Griffen is the dark horse for 2018 Mr. O.
Post by: wes on June 15, 2018, 09:53:14 AM
Mega potential looks impressive to say the least.
Title: Re: Charles "Definition" Griffen is the dark horse for 2018 Mr. O.
Post by: Rascal full on June 15, 2018, 09:54:06 AM
Not following the pro contests any longer to make an accurate guess as to how well he will do in the "O", but this is a shot of Charles ,,, I think!

That is Micheal Lockett actually not Griffen. Another very promising BB but think he is getting on if I am not mistaken.
Title: Re: Charles "Definition" Griffen is the dark horse for 2018 Mr. O.
Post by: beakdoctor on June 15, 2018, 11:00:15 AM
no way he's 5'9". he's 5'6" if he's an inch.
Title: Re: Charles "Definition" Griffen is the dark horse for 2018 Mr. O.
Post by: Wiggs on June 15, 2018, 11:02:15 AM
no way he's 5'9". he's 5'6" if he's an inch.

He's 5'9 and some change. Just short limbs.
Title: Re: Charles "Definition" Griffen is the dark horse for 2018 Mr. O.
Post by: dr.chimps on June 15, 2018, 11:15:08 AM
Mega potential looks impressive to say the least.
Mega potential. Looks impressive. To say the least. You're gonna have kwon sucking your dick, Sir.
Title: Re: Charles "Definition" Griffen is the dark horse for 2018 Mr. O.
Post by: Mothballs on June 15, 2018, 11:18:22 AM
Waist too wide. Shoulders too narrow. Can’t pose properly. Weak quads. Would not hit.
Title: Re: Charles "Definition" Griffen is the dark horse for 2018 Mr. O.
Post by: Wiggs on June 15, 2018, 11:35:19 AM
Yes, if I were to break him down with my professional eye, I would say, he needs a little more size on his shoulders and quads because his waist is a little wide when standing relaxed.  BUT when he poses, his body comes alive, it really pops and his waist doesn't look as wide when posing.
Other than that, I'm stunned this guy is where he is 4 years this month from never competing in the open. He's a better prospect for Mr. O than Ramy, DeAsha or Oliva.  His age may seem like a problem but I don't think it is. His body is fresh he just has a shorter window for success.

His posing will get better as time goes on and he gets more confident.
Title: Re: Charles "Definition" Griffen is the dark horse for 2018 Mr. O.
Post by: stuntmovie on June 15, 2018, 01:26:57 PM
RASCAL, Thanx for the correction.
Title: Re: Charles "Definition" Griffen is the dark horse for 2018 Mr. O.
Post by: illuminati on June 15, 2018, 02:11:01 PM
Yes, if I were to break him down with my professional eye, I would say, he needs a little more size on his shoulders and quads because his waist is a little wide when standing relaxed.  BUT when he poses, his body comes alive, it really pops and his waist doesn't look as wide when posing.
Other than that, I'm stunned this guy is where he is 4 years this month from never competing in the open. He's a better prospect for Mr. O than Ramy, DeAsha or Oliva.  His age may seem like a problem but I don't think it is. His body is fresh he just has a shorter window for success.

His posing will get better as time goes on and he gets more confident.

Yet your professional eye completely missed his woeful calf development  ::)
Also no mention of his minimal clavicle width.
Correct about his waist being wide when relaxed
Short limbs don’t help his look either.

Great physique yes
Just too many flaws at that elite level I Believe.
We’ll see.
Title: Re: Charles "Definition" Griffen is the dark horse for 2018 Mr. O.
Post by: Voice of Doom on June 15, 2018, 02:14:47 PM
too old, too short, back overpowers front and no legs.   Actually that's everything you need to be Mr Olympia!
Title: Re: Charles "Definition" Griffen is the dark horse for 2018 Mr. O.
Post by: HTexan on June 15, 2018, 02:17:36 PM
Why is he grey? Lighting  ???
Title: Re: Charles "Definition" Griffen is the dark horse for 2018 Mr. O.
Post by: Rascal full on June 15, 2018, 02:18:11 PM
RASCAL, Thanx for the correction.

No problem, they do look very similar.
Title: Re: Charles "Definition" Griffen is the dark horse for 2018 Mr. O.
Post by: XFACTOR on June 15, 2018, 02:53:41 PM
Was this guest posing? He doesn’t even have abs.

The first thing any human being looks at when a guy has his shirt off is stomach. All homo but it’s the truth
Title: Re: Charles "Definition" Griffen is the dark horse for 2018 Mr. O.
Post by: Dan-O on June 15, 2018, 05:25:22 PM
Was this guest posing? He doesn’t even have abs.

The first thing any human being looks at when a guy has his shirt off is stomach. All homo but it’s the truth

The lighting at last weekend's Muscle Mayhem Pro was terrible.  Atrocious.  It was not flattering for any of the competitors.

The Muscle Mayhem promoters should get in touch with John Balik, who ran the old Iron Man pro shows.  The Iron Man always had excellent lighting.
Title: Re: Charles "Definition" Griffen is the dark horse for 2018 Mr. O.
Post by: WOOO on June 15, 2018, 06:07:20 PM
Mega potential looks impressive to say the least.

he is 37

not 27

he's almost dead
Title: Re: Charles "Definition" Griffen is the dark horse for 2018 Mr. O.
Post by: SF1900 on June 15, 2018, 06:14:59 PM
The lighting at last weekend's Muscle Mayhem Pro was terrible.  Atrocious.  It was not flattering for any of the competitors.

The Muscle Mayhem promoters should get in touch with John Balik, who ran the old Iron Man pro shows.  The Iron Man always had excellent lighting.

Lighting is everything.

This is what Vince Goodrum, CSN, MFT, HPP, CEO, looks like with bad lighting:

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=71565.0;attach=79320;image)

This is what Vince Goodrum, CSN, MFT, HPP, CEO, looks like with good lighting:

(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/contests/1870-arnold-classic/2015/1874-dexter-jackson/1874-dexter-jackson-13_final.jpg)
Title: Re: Charles "Definition" Griffen is the dark horse for 2018 Mr. O.
Post by: Parker on June 15, 2018, 08:35:52 PM
He's also a future top 3 Mr. O. That back lat spread is very similar to Ronnie at his lighter weight. Once he nails his Olympia level conditioning, alot of people are gonna be left in the dust.  His first show was in 2014....Not pro show.  First show as an amateur. He's 37, 5'9. He has the goods to beat everyone sans Heath...for now.  I'd love to see in a year against Phil.  I give him top 10 this year.



Correct. Also, I thought Ronnie's half brother, Corey Mathews was going to blow up.
Back lat spread does have that Ronnie-sque look to it. Arms defined, yet short. I had mentioned this dude before. Back detail is looking on point. Too bad Akim can't nail his conditioning or he'd be a modern Orville Burke.
"Who came to beat it up, Rocky?"
Title: Re: Charles "Definition" Griffen is the dark horse for 2018 Mr. O.
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 15, 2018, 08:39:07 PM
He's also a future top 3 Mr. O. That back lat spread is very similar to Ronnie at his lighter weight. Once he nails his Olympia level conditioning, alot of people are gonna be left in the dust.  His first show was in 2014....Not pro show.  First show as an amateur. He's 37, 5'9. He has the goods to beat everyone sans Heath...for now.  I'd love to see in a year against Phil.  I give him top 10 this year.




Top 15
Title: Re: Charles "Definition" Griffen is the dark horse for 2018 Mr. O.
Post by: illuminati on June 15, 2018, 10:54:26 PM
Lighting is everything.

This is what Vince Goodrum, CSN, MFT, HPP, CEO, looks like with bad lighting:

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=71565.0;attach=79320;image)

This is what Vince Goodrum, CSN, MFT, HPP, CEO, looks like with good lighting:

(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/contests/1870-arnold-classic/2015/1874-dexter-jackson/1874-dexter-jackson-13_final.jpg)


Ha ha ha

Very good.
Title: Re: Charles "Definition" Griffen is the dark horse for 2018 Mr. O.
Post by: Ronnie Rep on June 16, 2018, 11:07:56 AM
Only real flaw is he is a little wide waisted.
Title: Re: Charles "Definition" Griffen is the dark horse for 2018 Mr. O.
Post by: falco on June 16, 2018, 11:13:06 AM
Dark he is. I don't know about the horse part.
Title: Re: Charles "Definition" Griffen is the dark horse for 2018 Mr. O.
Post by: nativeMUSCLE on June 16, 2018, 11:20:47 AM
Arms overpower chest
Title: Re: Charles "Definition" Griffen is the dark horse for 2018 Mr. O.
Post by: Taffin on June 17, 2018, 10:26:54 AM

Dexter looks like he's got 3 balls there

(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/contests/1870-arnold-classic/2015/1874-dexter-jackson/1874-dexter-jackson-13_final.jpg)
Title: Re: Charles "Definition" Griffen is the dark horse for 2018 Mr. O.
Post by: Ronnie Rep on June 17, 2018, 10:31:00 AM
Think he could crack the top 10 in the O this year if he comes in ripped.
Title: Re: Charles "Definition" Griffen is the dark horse for 2018 Mr. O.
Post by: oldschoolfan on June 17, 2018, 10:48:48 AM
never heard of him  will be lucky to crack top 10 and get the big 2000  check!
Title: Re: Charles "Definition" Griffen is the dark horse for 2018 Mr. O.
Post by: illuminati on June 17, 2018, 01:40:49 PM
Dexter looks like he's got 3 balls there


Do you think they are Billiards 🎱 or snooker 🎱
Title: Re: Charles "Definition" Griffen is the dark horse for 2018 Mr. O.
Post by: Parker on June 17, 2018, 01:47:16 PM
never heard of him  will be lucky to crack top 10 and get the big 2000  check!
He has a better back than most of the Olympia field, and a better back than any of the hyped guys this year.
Title: Re: Charles "Definition" Griffen is the dark horse for 2018 Mr. O.
Post by: ATHEIST on June 17, 2018, 03:07:00 PM
this guy wouldnt break the top ten at the Arnold. his structure is too poor, narow, thick waist..also his chest is flat.
Title: Re: Charles "Definition" Griffen is the dark horse for 2018 Mr. O.
Post by: The Scott on June 17, 2018, 03:25:07 PM
Typical build of dinky guy on drugs.  He's packed too much fudge into his waffle cone of a body.  Now, more than ever, bodybuilders look alike, i.e. shit.  It's just that the judges tend to pick the biggest pile of shit.  In the case of the SchmOelympia, that would be the Philsbury Schmoeboy.
Title: Re: Charles "Definition" Griffen is the dark horse for 2018 Mr. O.
Post by: Shawnwhite on June 17, 2018, 04:04:56 PM

Ha ha ha

Very good.
;D
Title: Re: Charles "Definition" Griffen is the dark horse for 2018 Mr. O.
Post by: youandme on June 17, 2018, 04:29:43 PM
Wide waist and narrow shoulders. Can’t do much to change those genetic flaws.
Title: Re: Charles "Definition" Griffen is the dark horse for 2018 Mr. O.
Post by: Powerlift66 on June 19, 2018, 08:42:19 AM
How would this guy do in the Mr. O, says he's "Natty" and calls himself "The Legend".  ::)

(Philp "Legend" Ricardo Jr.)

(http://zelsh.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/OCB102712AZ-291.jpg)
Title: Re: Charles "Definition" Griffen is the dark horse for 2018 Mr. O.
Post by: falco on June 20, 2018, 07:56:13 AM
He is neither natural nor a legend.