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Title: Tim Fogarty - So he left Getbig for good?
Post by: Matt on July 02, 2018, 10:47:29 PM
I've known and communicated with Tim Fogarty for years - it was his website, www.musclememory.com that helped me compile bodybuilding contest results for bodybuilder profiles on my website, the now defunct www.bodybuildingpro.com.  Although I do have a YouTube channel for the website [which I am not much interested in updating lately, due to YouTube ad revenue dropping over 60% since Brexit and Trump happened as a direct result of YouTube independent media].

Over the years, I think Tim posted good material on Getbig, but as with Primemuscle, there is only so much I can take from Social Justice Warriors.

Tim is a man who will everything he can to protest and interrupt the functioning of White societies, yet will praise Islam, despite the fact that - what - 17 Islamic countries have laws against homosexuality on the books?  There are Islamic countries that literally execute gays, yet homosexual White liberals like Tim Fogarty praise Islam while trashing the West.

In which case - fuck him!  The White male-hating girl.  How dare he live in a country ran by White males, when all he does is bash us?  I hope Tim does still lurk the boards and reads this.  I love how he trashes Western countries yet REFUSES to go live - or, shoot, even vacation as an openly gay male in an Islamic country where homosexuality is punishable by death.

In the end, actions speak louder than words - and the fact that NO ONE leaves Western countries, and people risk their lives to live in them is all the evidence that I need that he thinks the West is superior.

Take his Twitter page, for example:

https://twitter.com/fogartytim

Look at Tim's moronic retweet about "Genocide".

LOL...Tim, you moron:

WHY ARE NON-WHITE PEOPLE RISKING DEATH BY DEHYDRATION WALKING THROUGH DESERT TO MOVE INTO THE USA IF THEY ARE BEING TARGETS FOR "GENOCIDE".

HAHAHAHA.

Fucking stupid moron.

The reality, Tim - White male-hating asshole that you are: people want to live in countries ran by White men, and live FAR FAR AWAY from countries not ran by White men, for the same reasons YOU WANT THAT.

Because you think the West is SUPERIOR.  You think Western culture and Western values are SUPERIOR, in that they are richer, safer, less corrupt, and have more access to technology, education, and economic opportunities.

When you understand why YOU, Tim, prefer living in the West, you will be one step closer to understanding why more and more White people are getting tired of being demographically replaced through an ongoing immigration agenda that has at its roots the very goal that you claim to be against.  After all, when you target exclusively White countries with an immigration agenda that will see them COMPLETELY REPLACED within five generations from now, what is that, if not genocide?

Go flood Latin America with African immigrants if you care so much about improving the quality of life of the poorest citizens in the world.

Oh...and PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE, move to Latin America yourself, while you're at it.
Title: Re: Tim Fogarty - So he left Getbig for good?
Post by: Matt on July 02, 2018, 10:51:56 PM
I stopped speaking to both Tim Fogarty and Primemuscle over their respect and tolerance of Islam.

I have no respect for either women or gay men who respect Islam.

If they claim to respect is Islam but qualify that statement by saying "Oh, but the anti-female and anti-homosexual attitudes, especially those codified into law, have to go", I can respect that.

Any woman or gay man who respects Islam in its current iteration has to GTF away from me.
Title: Re: Tim Fogarty - So he left Getbig for good?
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on July 02, 2018, 11:16:46 PM
Matt, Tim's affairs are none of your business and his absense has nothing to do with Getbig.  Just leave it at that dont bring this shit up again
Title: Re: Tim Fogarty - So he left Getbig for good?
Post by: Matt on July 02, 2018, 11:53:31 PM
Matt, Tim's affairs are none of your business and his absense has nothing to do with Getbig.  Just leave it at that dont bring this shit up again

Vince, I really should put all of my efforts in responding to Kwon3's amazing post, but out of curiosity, why are you being mean to me, and saying mean things to me?

Oh wait, I understand - it's because I'm "racist", right?  Well, clearly you attempted to make a YouTube video outing me as a Neo-Nazi, and people tended to disagree with that.  Maybe because...I'm not a Neo-Nazi?  The issue is, there are racial differences in various traits, and "White Racism" isn't the reason for all differences we see between races [nor is sexism the explanation for all disparities between males and females].

In fact, I used use our online friendship as evidence that I am not racist.  I would say "Hang on, but I'm friends with Melvin "Vince" Goodrum and Wiggs on Getbig...they're both Black!  How can I be racist?"

Yet in recent days, you seem relegated to being mad at be for stating that Black sprinters are better than White sprinters, even though it's obviously true.
Title: Re: Tim Fogarty - So he left Getbig for good?
Post by: Matt on July 03, 2018, 12:22:43 AM
So I've been reading your posts/threads for a while now, and I have to say I've noticed a few motifs that haven't changed much in that time. You can feel free to disregard this post, as it's not relevant to this thread or bodybuilding, but I'm going to post it anyway and maybe it'll stir up some (civil) discussion about whether I'm right or wrong.

1) Your posts are verbose, employ above-average diction, and are generally painstakingly written to address everything raised in the post you're replying to. It's often ended with self-deprecating humor or some minor concession about how you've fallen short in some way but deal with it in a way that's rational, e.g. the references to opiates as a coping mechanism if ever necessary.

2) Your views about social issues and politics are generally center-right, sometimes borderline far right, but lack the prescriptions recommended by the hardcore racists and/or bigots of the board. So, while you're cavalier about references to the common denigratory term for Blacks, there's no pattern of personal hostility to any that post here or recommendations to bring about harm on others off the boards, famous or not. Axiomatically, you've out of sync with the left-to-hard left political currents that prevail in your country (and now the U.S. - to go by the recent demonstrations against firearms and illegal immigration incarcerations). That's interesting. It's also interesting you have a public fitness profile and a YouTube channel that to a certain extent depends on public interest in it, but you're not concerned about PR based on your posts here. That's kind of amusing and (some would think) impressive in terms of your nonchalance re the opinions of others.

3) You've taken a staggering amount of ribbing & teasing due to your alleged sexual proclivities with numerous women, yet no one allegedly involved as emerged to "out" you as often happens (e.g. with Piana and other famous men brought down by exes spilling the beans on blogs, sites, boards, etc). You're also just trolled a lot in general, though less so than in the past. You take it with stoicism and aplomb, opting to stay above direct replies that address the criticisms mentioned or personal attacks. What do you credit for that kind of olympian detachment? It's not the norm here.

4) You're in reasonably good shape, but not a bodybuilder by the common understanding of the term in the IFBB or its amateur offshoots. What got you interested in the industry enough to not only go through the hassle of explaining yourself to CBP at airports but actually flying out to bodybuilding expos to meet & greet or at least establish a footprint for yourself in a very saturated industry? Do you profit from it at all? Were you ever sponsored before? Seems like a lot of investment for relatively little in return, considering you're not a "fan" or a U.S. citizen just visiting a local show or bodybuilding event at little cost to yourself.

I think that's about it.

Great post!!  Wow, love Kwon's posts, so it's cool to see you username was inspired by him - unless you are a Kwon account?  ???  Anyway, to address your great posts:

[1] Opiates are the food of the Gods, and IMO, far less toxic than anything else.  There is a reason why opiates are prescribed as medicine, while alcohol is not - the acute damage caused by opiates just isn't an issue.  The issue is dependence and overdose.  Dependence can be skirted by putting days/weeks/month [pick a period of time = or > 3 days and use it], but not all people are able to skirt dependence.  And I really hope no one reads my posts and starts using opiates in any capacity as a result of my stating that the acute [one-time use] toxicity of this family of drugs is not very high, compared to others.  The second issue is overdose - but that can be avoided if you do not consume the amount that would be required to cause overdose.  I also heard that 85% of all opiate overdoses involve either intravenous [needle] use of opiates, or involve combination use with other depressants, such as benzodiazepines.  So avoid those.

Avoidosing orally or nasally is still possible, but a person would likely puke far before that point.  Either way, none of this is meant to condone opiate use - I'm just saying that for people who are responsible and who are concerned about their health, the acute toxicity from opiates is far lower than other substances.  Again, this should only be internalized by those with low self-gratifying tendencies.  Even then, plenty of seemingly restrained people have gone down the road of addiction, due to using drugs to handle physical or even psychological pain.

[2] In Canada, we only "tolerate" diversity because we live nowhere near it.  Canada is 77% White, and all the White liberals who claim to tolerate diversity are doing so from a position comfortably far away from it.  In other words, as has been alluded to by both myself and others, "The desire to live in a diverse society is correlated inversely with proximity to diversity."  In other words, people in Canada who live far removed from the problems caused by diversity want more of it.  No White people living in New York City or in Brazil want more diversity.  In fact, my friend's brother [who it pains me to say, is an elementary school teacher] told me in 2014: "I want Canada to look like Brazil, where everyone gets along."  LOL, please.  Brazil is one of the most criminalized nations on the PLANET, with over 50,000 murders most years!  Yet this idiot was seriously suggesting that Brazil was a model for lily-White and safe Canada to yearn for.  What a moron.  Of course he lives in an area in Thunder Bay called Westfort - his neighbourhood in particular is almost 100% White.  So he is in NO POSITION to talk about "diversity".  In fact, I want all leftists and liberals to take your views - and your hatred of me - and to shove it up your ass.  Hypocrites!

Take Tim Fogarty and Primemuscle for example - both spend their time with their White boyfriends, and rant to me about how I'm not incorporating enough "diversity" in my life.  In reality, if you did an analysis of the lives of all three of us, you would likely find that I have more diverse friends than either of them.  First off, I am forced to interact with liberals constantly, because the majority of my city is liberal, and even on the racial or religious front, I have more diversity in my life.  And I'm not saying that I want that - I WISH I could live with more like-minded people...it's just that all the like-minded people are in the closet, so it's hard to identify them.  Either way, I couldn't care less what leftists have to say, and if they want me to incorporate more diversity in my life, they had better be prepared to use force to make me, and they had better be prepared to know I will physically defend myself if I am in such a situation.  Of course everyone wants to see families stay together, but why do Mexicans and other Hispanics risk their lives walking through desert with their children to get to the USA if the USA is so "oppressive"?  That's what I LOVE about all the people who complain about White men, and want us removed from society - ALL of these losers are ADDICTED to the societies that we create.  Take Vince Goodrum for example - what's stopping him from leaving the USA to move to Africa, or even to move to any number of Black ghettos in the USA?  The fact is, he PREFERS living in a White male-ran city - he thinks it is SUPERIOR.  It turns out both myself and Vince agree that White males produce better societies.

SO HOW DOES THAT MAKE ONLY ME THE WHITE SUPREMACIST?

Everyone reading this prefers living in the parts of the world where White males exist in the largest concentrations.  Any of the groups complaining - Black Lives Matter, various White female feminists groups, Antifa, etc, can leave our countries ANY TIME THEY WANT.  But they refuse to, because they know damn well that White males produce the best societies.

I do not think most people do care about families being separated.  Obviously, few to no people are going to go on record and say they would be ok with families being separated, and in general - few people will say they want to see families or children harmed.  Does that mean that they want leftist models to be in practice?  The fact remains, actions speak louder than words.  People love White male-ran capitalist democracies.  As to how much socialism is in those societies - there will only be enough that will not result in those societies collapsing.  So maybe Canada's private sector is only 60% of the economy, but that is NOT proof that the 40% public sector is a good thing - it's just evidence that a capitalist society can still function with 40% socialism sucking it dry.  Socialism is garbage.

As for guns, that is a moot point - how do leftists expect to confiscate 300 million guns from 80 million private gun owners in the USA?  LOL!!!!!!  Oh, and when you adjust for race, White Americans and White Canadians roughly commit the same level of homicide, at around 2.0 per 100,000 population per year.  School shootings scare people because they are visceral, but they rarely happen - and they are a drop in the bucket in terms of the overall stats.  They literally increase the homicide rate in the USA among White people from 2.0 to 2.000000000001 per 100,000.  Again, who cares?  This is just more evidence that people suck at math.  And no matter how much (((the mainstream media))) wants to disarm the American population, IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.  (((Lord Rothschild))) can go fuck himself.  8)

This is already getting long, so I will post this, and reply to the next two points/questions in another reply.
Title: Re: Tim Fogarty - So he left Getbig for good?
Post by: polychronopolous on July 03, 2018, 12:30:54 AM
His last post was on the politics board the very night that Trump won.

He simply couldn't handle it. I was right there to see it all unfold.
Title: Re: Tim Fogarty - So he left Getbig for good?
Post by: jwb on July 03, 2018, 12:32:47 AM
Matt is the voice of a silent majority...
Title: Re: Tim Fogarty - So he left Getbig for good?
Post by: Matt on July 03, 2018, 12:51:12 AM
3) You've taken a staggering amount of ribbing & teasing due to your alleged sexual proclivities with numerous women, yet no one allegedly involved as emerged to "out" you as often happens (e.g. with Piana and other famous men brought down by exes spilling the beans on blogs, sites, boards, etc). You're also just trolled a lot in general, though less so than in the past. You take it with stoicism and aplomb, opting to stay above direct replies that address the criticisms mentioned or personal attacks. What do you credit for that kind of olympian detachment? It's not the norm here.

That is because, as much as I do not wish to be with a woman in a relationship [due to the MASSIVE liability caused by feminism, and garbage like #MeToo], I still want to be a father, and being a father means treating the mothers of my children well - obviously being by their side during the entire pregnancy, and showing them cooperation and kindness and heavy financial support after the fact.  No woman comes online and outs me as being bad to women, because there are no women I have been bad to.  But the possibility of being charged with a fake rape terrifies me, so there are only around 13 women who I allow to enter into my home alone with me.  I refuse to be in private situations any women aside from those 13.  If I communicate with other women, it is to be [1] in writing [Facebook for example, or Getbig PM, e-mail, or other online communications + text messages], [2] on camera, or [3] in a public space with an extremely large number of witnesses.  For example, being at a house party with five women and two men would not be alright with me.  It leaves too much risk for one or more of those women to charge me with a sex crime, and not enough witnesses to corroborate my innocence.  In general, I just consider women to be liabilities and do not wish to interact with them, even for sex.  I try my best to screen women as carefully as possible to ensure they are not feminists or SJW anti-Whites.  And I couldn't care less what woman is - I just want nothing to do with women who are.  And if laws ever change that force me to interact with such people, I will put my foot down [such as how Obama was using the department of Housing and Urban Development to force non-White people into neighbourhoods of the USA deemed to be "too White"].  Everyone reading this is welcome to be a male feminist or an anti-White SJW, but if it EVER gets to the point where I am forced to interact with such people, I WILL put my foot down.  Everyone has their limits, and that is absolutely unacceptable to me.  I just want people who fall into the SJW umbrella to GTF away from me - much as I feel about homosexuals who support Islam.  In Canada, Bill C-16 forces us to call any man a "she" if he claims to be transitioning.  There need not be any evidence of transitioning either - I can just claim to be a woman, and universities would be required to put "female" on my transcript because of this law.  This compelled speech law is NOT OK to me.  I don't care if people voluntarily subscribe to leftist ideas, but if I am ever forced to do so - that is when I will be forced to put my foot down and fight back against such laws.

4) You're in reasonably good shape, but not a bodybuilder by the common understanding of the term in the IFBB or its amateur offshoots. What got you interested in the industry enough to not only go through the hassle of explaining yourself to CBP at airports but actually flying out to bodybuilding expos to meet & greet or at least establish a footprint for yourself in a very saturated industry? Do you profit from it at all? Were you ever sponsored before? Seems like a lot of investment for relatively little in return, considering you're not a "fan" or a U.S. citizen just visiting a local show or bodybuilding event at little cost to yourself.

In the year 2001, I learned about a fellow person around my age who lived in my city who was running a fitness website.  I was also banned from Tim Greene's website Musclemag.com - which was not related to the magazine MUSCLEMAG, and actually resulted in Robert Kennedy suing, and ultimately losing, to gain control of the domain name.  I had started working out in the USA, as an [almost] 19-year-old virgin who wanted to get women.  I had heard that women care about a man's personality more than anything, but I knew that was garbage.  So I decided to start working out to get women.  Eventually, I got so absorbed in the website, that I decided it was a better use of my time than getting women, and...oddly...by ignoring women, they came around to me.  This made me lose respect for women even more [than when I became aware of the fact that women care as much about looks as men do], and the more I ignored women, the more interest they showed.

It was really, really odd...and it still doesn't sit well with me.  :-\  I suppose because at heart I am a gentleman, but I find that when you show to women you are a gentleman, they must think you are a sure thing or something, and they forget about you.  And it's this sort of behaviour [which, to be fair, is not limited to women in general, but probably applies to women at disproportionately high rates] that really turned me off from women as an entire gender.  What I ended up doing was just doing my own thing, and aggressively turning away women, as I felt it was more lucrative to pursue my own interests...this resulted in the largest flood of women throwing themselves at me that I had ever seen in my entire life...which, as I said, made me lose respect for women even more than when I had to accept how much women do care about a man's physical appearance.

Regarding money, starting around 2005, Bodybuilding Pro was doing almost $500,000 in sales, which I got around 5% of.  So I was making $2,000 a month early on + an equal amount of free DVDs, supplements, workout equipment, etc.  8)  So yes, it was worth it for me to be involved in the website.  In fact, when I interviewed Stan Efferding at the 2013 Mr. Olympia contest, I got the interview because someone in his crew knew me by first name.  That made it easy to set up the interview, and it was a great joy meeting and interviewing some of the most driven men and women in the world.  I really enjoyed it - but eventually, it was hard to deal with all of the website work on my own, and I missed leaving my kids.  I missed watching my son take his first step because I was at the 2011 Arnold Classic, for example.  :-\  So, I just worked a bit more on my YouTube channel in the time since going to my last expo in 2014, and am now resigned to having a quiet life with my family.

I think that's about it.

Great post!!!

 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Tim Fogarty - So he left Getbig for good?
Post by: illuminati on July 03, 2018, 12:56:42 AM
I stopped speaking to both Tim Fogarty and Primemuscle over their respect and tolerance of Islam.

I have no respect for either women or gay men who respect Islam.

If they claim to respect is Islam but qualify that statement by saying "Oh, but the anti-female and anti-homosexual attitudes, especially those codified into law, have to go", I can respect that.

Any woman or gay man who respects Islam in its current iteration has to GTF away from me.

Any queer or feminist thar supports Muslims / Islam is beyond stupid
They would be the 1st to be targeted & suffer under Islamic rule
There is No moderate Islam - only lies & deceit to gain control
Then the Real Islam / Muslim would emerge.

Never ever trust a Muslim or a Muslim sympathiser / support.

Why don’t the feminists & queers go live & support Islam in a Islamic country
Because they are Not quite that Stupid their mental illness hasn’t quite gone
That far yet unfortunately.

No they stay in white Man ruled countries they profess to hate
Spouting out their vile mad rhetoric all the while being safe &
Protected by the White man law.
Title: Re: Tim Fogarty - So he left Getbig for good?
Post by: muscleman-2017 on July 03, 2018, 01:10:39 AM
I red pilled a couple of women about Islam once.

They agreed that Islam oppressed women, but they were like "oh but they are OK in our country, they don't do that here, just overseas," which of course is not completely true anyway.

But I explained that their behaviour in our country was that of a minority group, and that in countries where they had the majority population, things were very different, and that if they attained majority here they would enforce those practices here too.

Their eyes went wide, and they muttered some form of shocked recognition of what I was saying.  The coin had clearly dropped.  They no longer tried to argue -  they were clearly red pilled at that moment.
Title: Re: Tim Fogarty - So he left Getbig for good?
Post by: muscleman-2017 on July 03, 2018, 01:21:58 AM
Really? They didn't try to tell you that they know this or that Muslim man and he takes good care of his family and is a gentle soul and you can't generalize about all Muslims because each person is unique like you and me?

Because that's the kneejerk response 99.999% of women give to any generalization people make about anything. It's as if they're hardwired to lack the stomach enzymes needed to understand that stereotypes and truisms exist for a reason, which is why they've been conned by those same men since before the pyramids were built into sliding their underwear off until they lose their novelty factor whence they're dispensed like the spent cartridges which they are.

Well these woman came from an almost exclusively white area and they may not have even known any muslims, so maybe that is why they didn't use that feeble comeback.  They were also mature women in their 40's so not brainwashed by the education system.

Of course if I was talking to a 20 something I would expect more resistance.  Because these kids are legitimately brainwashed from birth.

I was once trying to tell a 20 something who was going to travel through some third world shit hole to be very careful because "life is cheap" in these countries, and she just looked at me like I was a racist idiot.
Title: Re: Tim Fogarty - So he left Getbig for good?
Post by: ratherbebig on July 03, 2018, 01:50:37 AM
i'd leave a white country.

for japan.

Title: Re: Tim Fogarty - So he left Getbig for good?
Post by: muscleman-2017 on July 03, 2018, 01:55:02 AM
i'd leave a white country.

for japan.



The Japanese are a proudly ETHNIC Japanese nation.  So while they accept low levels of migration, any suggestion of them losing their ethnic identity would be VIOLENTLY opposed.



Title: Re: Tim Fogarty - So he left Getbig for good?
Post by: SuperTed on July 03, 2018, 04:12:31 AM
Tim is a man who will everything he can to protest and interrupt the functioning of White societies, yet will praise Islam, despite the fact that - what - 17 Islamic countries have laws against homosexuality on the books?  There are Islamic countries that literally execute gays, yet homosexual White liberals like Tim Fogarty praise Islam while trashing the West.

He's had Muslim boyfriends or at least, dated men who came from Muslim backgrounds. His political views were just that of a standard progressive who lives in an ultra liberal city. It's not uncommon for individuals who are part of a "minority" group to defend other "minority" groups. It's strategic. I doubt Tim has any genuine fondness towards Islam.   
Title: Re: Tim Fogarty - So he left Getbig for good?
Post by: falco on July 03, 2018, 04:37:32 AM
Matt, Tim's affairs are none of your business and his absense has nothing to do with Getbig.  Just leave it at that dont bring this shit up again
Qué pasó con el?
Title: Re: Tim Fogarty - So he left Getbig for good?
Post by: ratherbebig on July 03, 2018, 04:44:47 AM
He's had Muslim boyfriends or at least, dated men who came from Muslim backgrounds. His political views were just that of a standard progressive who lives in an ultra liberal city. It's not uncommon for individuals who are part of a "minority" group to defend other "minority" groups. It's strategic. I doubt Tim has any genuine fondness towards Islam.   

but maybe towards muslim men  :P
Title: Re: Tim Fogarty - So he left Getbig for good?
Post by: Powerlift66 on July 03, 2018, 06:17:15 AM
Epic reading for this AM from Matt and Kwon3.

Good, thought provoking stuff. And remember, everyone is racist. Muzzies hate whites/americans, (vice versa), whites/blacks hate each other.
Its OK to hate, just dont act out on it. These retard protesters burning flags, hating on america, yet still live here and accept benefits, really mind blowing and annoying.
Still crying 'cause Kilary lost, world is a shit-hole, only to get worse.

Tiny Toese to the rescue, kicking libtard protesters ass for a year now.

They are all crazy as far as Im concerned.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2018/jul/01/far-right-marchers-clash-with-anti-fascists-in-portland-video

Title: Re: Tim Fogarty - So he left Getbig for good?
Post by: HTexan on July 03, 2018, 06:49:08 AM
Qué pasó con el?
es un pinche pendejo ;D
Title: Re: Tim Fogarty - So he left Getbig for good?
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on July 03, 2018, 07:28:26 AM
I stopped speaking to both Tim Fogarty and Primemuscle over their respect and tolerance of Islam.

I have no respect for either women or gay men who respect Islam.

If they claim to respect is Islam but qualify that statement by saying "Oh, but the anti-female and anti-homosexual attitudes, especially those codified into law, have to go", I can respect that.

Any woman or gay man who respects Islam in its current iteration has to GTF away from me.


I TOLERATE YOU Matt.   There's a big difference.  Do you seriously think that any black person would be friends with a white supremacist???   Better yet, if I came to your house or met some of your friends in person...you think I would get a warm reception....or a really hot cross burning reception????


Tim's departure from Getbig has nothing to do with Trump winning or anything pertaining to any forum post.   The reason why I'm telling you to shut the fuck up about this shit is because you're going to eventually get too comfortable again and post something stupid enough to get banned from here....AGAIN....just like that picture of Ron in a Nazi shirt for example.  


Honestly, out of all of the white nationalist out there, you are on the white people scale are considered genetic trash although they might accept you as an Incel and yet you walk around acting like you're a Chad.   When Richard Spencer and Jordan Peterson talk about pure Caucasian superiority, they are not talking about you and if there was even a possibly that white people would take over the world, then they would start classifying white people in subsets....and you would be the gloryhole of that subset.   Your brother would be thrown off a cliff for obvious reasons since a lot of their philosophy is based on Spartan history and eventually they will prob give DNA test which will likely result in you having some Indian blood.  As my ex used to say, you obviously have some "feather feather" in you Tonto.   You're more likely to burn some wagons than a cross.


Your dream of a white nation is stupid...it won't happen and if it did, the only person that would be fucked would be you.  You're not a Chad, Matt....sorry
Title: Re: Tim Fogarty - So he left Getbig for good?
Post by: Kwon on July 03, 2018, 07:56:24 AM
I've known and communicated with Tim Fogarty for years - it was his website, www.musclememory.com that helped me compile bodybuilding contest results for bodybuilder profiles on my website, the now defunct www.bodybuildingpro.com.  Although I do have a YouTube channel for the website [which I am not much interested in updating lately, due to YouTube ad revenue dropping over 60% since Brexit and Trump happened as a direct result of YouTube independent media].

Over the years, I think Tim posted good material on Getbig, but as with Primemuscle, there is only so much I can take from Social Justice Warriors.

Tim is a man who will everything he can to protest and interrupt the functioning of White societies, yet will praise Islam, despite the fact that - what - 17 Islamic countries have laws against homosexuality on the books?  There are Islamic countries that literally execute gays, yet homosexual White liberals like Tim Fogarty praise Islam while trashing the West.

In which case - fuck him!  The White male-hating girl.  How dare he live in a country ran by White males, when all he does is bash us?  I hope Tim does still lurk the boards and reads this.  I love how he trashes Western countries yet REFUSES to go live - or, shoot, even vacation as an openly gay male in an Islamic country where homosexuality is punishable by death.

In the end, actions speak louder than words - and the fact that NO ONE leaves Western countries, and people risk their lives to live in them is all the evidence that I need that he thinks the West is superior.

Take his Twitter page, for example:

https://twitter.com/fogartytim

Look at Tim's moronic retweet about "Genocide".

LOL...Tim, you moron:

WHY ARE NON-WHITE PEOPLE RISKING DEATH BY DEHYDRATION WALKING THROUGH DESERT TO MOVE INTO THE USA IF THEY ARE BEING TARGETS FOR "GENOCIDE".

HAHAHAHA.

Fucking stupid moron.

The reality, Tim - White male-hating asshole that you are: people want to live in countries ran by White men, and live FAR FAR AWAY from countries not ran by White men, for the same reasons YOU WANT THAT.

Because you think the West is SUPERIOR.  You think Western culture and Western values are SUPERIOR, in that they are richer, safer, less corrupt, and have more access to technology, education, and economic opportunities.

When you understand why YOU, Tim, prefer living in the West, you will be one step closer to understanding why more and more White people are getting tired of being demographically replaced through an ongoing immigration agenda that has at its roots the very goal that you claim to be against.  After all, when you target exclusively White countries with an immigration agenda that will see them COMPLETELY REPLACED within five generations from now, what is that, if not genocide?

Go flood Latin America with African immigrants if you care so much about improving the quality of life of the poorest citizens in the world.

Oh...and PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE, move to Latin America yourself, while you're at it.

He just couldn't handle Trump becoming President :D

Oh and Matt, Kwon3 is not me, Kwon3 is a new addition to the board, a true gentleman and a scholar.


I am only Kwon and Kwon_2!

He does make me confused at times though, while i'm skimming through a thread and see my accountname responding to someone.

"Wait, did i really write that?" i think to myself before noticing the 3 at the end. :D
Title: Re: Tim Fogarty - So he left Getbig for good?
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on July 03, 2018, 07:57:16 AM
He just couldn't handle Trump becoming President :D


Nobody can...seriously.
Title: Re: Tim Fogarty - So he left Getbig for good?
Post by: falco on July 03, 2018, 08:05:25 AM

Nobody can...seriously.

Well... he won the election, so...
Title: Re: Tim Fogarty - So he left Getbig for good?
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on July 03, 2018, 08:12:49 AM
Well... he won the election, so...


Yes he did... ;D  Thanks to him though, there's some pretty good entertainment.

Title: Re: Tim Fogarty - So he left Getbig for good?
Post by: illuminati on July 03, 2018, 03:54:36 PM
Explain why so many SJW whites want to fit in with Black Lives Matters, which is basically a pro-black (therefore racist) organization that clamors for the murder of cops and ignores black on black crime as they flood cities like locusts and destroy property/fight people/block traffic because a white cop's bullet ricocheted off some dindu's nappy head as he ran from them with gun in hand? It seems we cut you guys endless breaks and you keep letting us down. Why don't you ever stand up for white people? You're not even a typical black anyway, most of your clients are white and your sexual orientation would cause most blacks to banish you from their sight or beat you senseless, as they're all homophobes, so what's the problem with Matt?


They’re blacks is the simple answer
Most do not have the IQ intelligence to either read / understand what you wrote
Let alone come up with a intelligent coherent answer.
They mostly do because they can no thought process involved.

There are some exceptions of course & these blacks are very decent people
& great additions to society.
Title: Re: Tim Fogarty - So he left Getbig for good?
Post by: illuminati on July 03, 2018, 04:01:27 PM
Larry Elder is my favorite. The guy basically is the voice of conscience the Black community needs, but they don't listen to him and troll his twitter.

As of course they would
As they are of lower intelligence & can’t comprehend what he is saying.

Now if he was talking / dog - guy - black - shootings - hoes - gold teeth & chains etc etc
They’d be all over him saying how great he is....  ::)
Title: Re: Tim Fogarty - So he left Getbig for good?
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on July 03, 2018, 09:29:19 PM
Explain why so many SJW whites want to fit in with Black Lives Matters, which is basically a pro-black (therefore racist) organization that clamors for the murder of cops and ignores black on black crime as they flood cities like locusts and destroy property/fight people/block traffic because a white cop's bullet ricocheted off some dindu's nappy head as he ran from them with gun in hand? It seems we cut you guys endless breaks and you keep letting us down. Why don't you ever stand up for white people? You're not even a typical black anyway, most of your clients are white and your sexual orientation would cause most blacks to banish you from their sight or beat you senseless, as they're all homophobes, so what's the problem with Matt?


Blacks and Hispanics don't commit anymore crimes than whites.   However, we are more likely to get pulled over, get searched, get arrested, have higher bail or bond, higher fines, and a much longer sentence if not a life sentence with less resources available to properly defend themselves...relying on public defenders who actually work against them taking stupid plea deals and not even trying to defend them.  


In fact, sometimes it gets ridiculous.  Take Ethan Couch.   He kills 4 people and injures 11 driving under the influence.....if he was black, he would have gotten the death penalty if not a life sentence with no parole.   Instead, because he's white and rich he gets probation....and he wasn't even a Chad, Slayer, or a Normie for that matter. I'm not saying that my people don't commit crimes...however if arrest rates, searches, and sentencing were the same...you could definitely expect a lot higher number of white people incarcerated.   The truth is that the prison system is essentially modern day slavery and they use minorities and the poor to keep them filled for very cheap government labor.


As far as SJW's are concerned, they simply want validation of their efforts.
Title: Re: Tim Fogarty - So he left Getbig for good?
Post by: illuminati on July 03, 2018, 09:39:12 PM

Blacks and Hispanics don't commit anymore crimes than whites.   However, we are more likely to get pulled over, get searched, get arrested, have higher bail or bond, higher fines, and a much longer sentence if not a life sentence with less resources available to properly defend themselves...relying on public defenders who actually work against them taking stupid plea deals and not even trying to defend them.   


In fact, sometimes it gets ridiculous.  Take Ethan Couch.   He kills 4 people and injures 11 driving under the influence.....if he was black, he would have gotten the death penalty if not a life sentence with no parole.   Instead, because he's white and rich he gets probation....and he wasn't even a Chad, Slayer, or a Normie for that matter.

I'm not saying that my people don't commit crimes...however if arrest rates, searches, and sentencing were the same...you could definitely expect a lot higher number of white people incarcerated.   The truth is that the prison system is essentially modern day slavery and they use minorities and the poor to keep them filled for very cheap government labor.



Blacks and Hispanics don't commit anymore crimes than whites.  -  ::) Ha Ha Ha
Vince I thought you were one of the more intelligent ones.

Really how do you explain the huge black on black murder rate
And every other crime statistics out there.

Something very very wrong with a vast number of black people
That isn’t even up for debate Facts are Facts even when they’re
Not very palatable - The facts are Blacks in general commit far
More crime.
Title: Re: Tim Fogarty - So he left Getbig for good?
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on July 03, 2018, 09:55:00 PM


Blacks and Hispanics don't commit anymore crimes than whites.  -  ::) Ha Ha Ha
Vince I thought you were one of the more intelligent ones.

Really how do you explain the huge black on black murder rate
And every other crime statistics out there.

Something very very wrong with a vast number of black people
That isn’t even up for debate Facts are Facts even when they’re
Not very palatable - The facts are Blacks in general commit far
More crime.


Crime is crime...period.   Blacks, Hispanics, and the poor are targeted more.   The reason is because the state or federal requires very little resources to convict them because they have no real way of defending themselves.


I used to work as a corrections officer which is why I know this.   Inmates are nothing more than cheap government labor.  The average inmate earns between 23 cents to 1.15 an hour for work.   Then 80% of that is taken away to offset incarceration cost and restitution....but you can forget about restitution to the victims...it all goes back to the government.  They do jobs from manufacturing, telemarketing, customer service, construction, etc.   You should realize that the American Prison System is bullshit.   Taxpayers pay for the prisons and incarceration already but then government gets to double dip with the cheap labor.   I have no complaints.   I raked up on overtime very easily and collected a lot of money.



You need to realize that its never about race....its about exploitation and what group is the easiest to exploit, to take advantage of, to where no-one cares what happens to them.   That's how it works, bro 
Title: Re: Tim Fogarty - So he left Getbig for good?
Post by: Kwon on July 04, 2018, 03:47:14 AM
Tim Faggotry
Title: Re: Tim Fogarty - So he left Getbig for good?
Post by: ratherbebig on July 04, 2018, 05:01:11 AM
let's say an ethnic group, i dont know, colombians maybe, deal with cocaine more than others, and goes to jail quite a bit... is it because theyre easy to exploit and good prison labor?

according to 1 person on the planet yes. according to the rest no.

Title: Re: Tim Fogarty - So he left Getbig for good?
Post by: illuminati on July 04, 2018, 03:00:06 PM

Crime is crime...period.   Blacks, Hispanics, and the poor are targeted more.   The reason is because the state or federal requires very little resources to convict them because they have no real way of defending themselves.


I used to work as a corrections officer which is why I know this.   Inmates are nothing more than cheap government labor.  The average inmate earns between 23 cents to 1.15 an hour for work.   Then 80% of that is taken away to offset incarceration cost and restitution....but you can forget about restitution to the victims...it all goes back to the government.  They do jobs from manufacturing, telemarketing, customer service, construction, etc.   You should realize that the American Prison System is bullshit.   Taxpayers pay for the prisons and incarceration already but then government gets to double dip with the cheap labor.   I have no complaints.   I raked up on overtime very easily and collected a lot of money.



You need to realize that its never about race....its about exploitation and what group is the easiest to exploit, to take advantage of, to where no-one cares what happens to them.   That's how it works, bro 


You may well be correct in what you are saying.

It still doesn’t alter the fact blacks commit the most crimes.
So they may well get exploited more by the system.
Title: Re: Tim Fogarty - So he left Getbig for good?
Post by: calfzilla on July 04, 2018, 03:07:04 PM
Explain why so many SJW whites want to fit in with Black Lives Matters, which is basically a pro-black (therefore racist) organization that clamors for the murder of cops and ignores black on black crime as they flood cities like locusts and destroy property/fight people/block traffic because a white cop's bullet ricocheted off some dindu's nappy head as he ran from them with gun in hand? It seems we cut you guys endless breaks and you keep letting us down. Why don't you ever stand up for white people? You're not even a typical black anyway, most of your clients are white and your sexual orientation would cause most blacks to banish you from their sight or beat you senseless, as they're all homophobes, so what's the problem with Matt?

What’s more is that a lot of these sjw whites have almost entirely white friends.
Title: Re: Tim Fogarty - So he left Getbig for good?
Post by: Sokolsky on July 04, 2018, 03:16:57 PM
Ah yes, the old shtik of starting out threads with multiple paragraphs vaguely mentioning someone else, quickly moving on to how this affects me - Matt - personally.

Solid effort bringing in the kwon gimmick to boost the word count, too.
Title: Re: Tim Fogarty - So he left Getbig for good?
Post by: Dave D on July 04, 2018, 03:23:48 PM

Crime is crime...period.   Blacks, Hispanics, and the poor are targeted more.   The reason is because the state or federal requires very little resources to convict them because they have no real way of defending themselves.


I used to work as a corrections officer which is why I know this.   Inmates are nothing more than cheap government labor.  The average inmate earns between 23 cents to 1.15 an hour for work.   Then 80% of that is taken away to offset incarceration cost and restitution....but you can forget about restitution to the victims...it all goes back to the government.  They do jobs from manufacturing, telemarketing, customer service, construction, etc.   You should realize that the American Prison System is bullshit.   Taxpayers pay for the prisons and incarceration already but then government gets to double dip with the cheap labor.   I have no complaints.   I raked up on overtime very easily and collected a lot of money.



You need to realize that its never about race....its about exploitation and what group is the easiest to exploit, to take advantage of, to where no-one cares what happens to them.   That's how it works, bro 

Vince I know you're trolling here, but I'll take the bait.

How much money were you making that it was so good you walked away from it.

Also you say minorities end up in prison because they don't have money for lawyers (Ethan Couch) but in another post you say XXX's killer will do 15 years tops.... which is it?
Title: Re: Tim Fogarty - So he left Getbig for good?
Post by: werewolf operative on July 04, 2018, 03:47:05 PM

I TOLERATE YOU Matt.   There's a big difference.  Do you seriously think that any black person would be friends with a white supremacist???   Better yet, if I came to your house or met some of your friends in person...you think I would get a warm reception....or a really hot cross burning reception????


Tim's departure from Getbig has nothing to do with Trump winning or anything pertaining to any forum post.   The reason why I'm telling you to shut the fuck up about this shit is because you're going to eventually get too comfortable again and post something stupid enough to get banned from here....AGAIN....just like that picture of Ron in a Nazi shirt for example.  


Honestly, out of all of the white nationalist out there, you are on the white people scale are considered genetic trash although they might accept you as an Incel and yet you walk around acting like you're a Chad.   When Richard Spencer and Jordan Peterson talk about pure Caucasian superiority, they are not talking about you and if there was even a possibly that white people would take over the world, then they would start classifying white people in subsets....and you would be the gloryhole of that subset.   Your brother would be thrown off a cliff for obvious reasons since a lot of their philosophy is based on Spartan history and eventually they will prob give DNA test which will likely result in you having some Indian blood.  As my ex used to say, you obviously have some "feather feather" in you Tonto.   You're more likely to burn some wagons than a cross.


Your dream of a white nation is stupid...it won't happen and if it did, the only person that would be fucked would be you.  You're not a Chad, Matt....sorry

 ???
Title: Re: Tim Fogarty - So he left Getbig for good?
Post by: werewolf operative on July 04, 2018, 03:53:02 PM

Blacks and Hispanics don't commit anymore crimes than whites.

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Title: Re: Tim Fogarty - So he left Getbig for good?
Post by: Chadwick The Beta on July 04, 2018, 03:57:45 PM
Tim Faggotry

QFT

He high-tailed it out of here after Cankles lost.
Title: Re: Tim Fogarty - So he left Getbig for good?
Post by: Dave D on July 04, 2018, 07:16:44 PM
Vince, those black and hispanic men weren't shoved into license plate or uniform sowing duties randomly. They were all arrested or indicted, afforded a defense counsel, offered a trial, convicted by a jury of their peers (often black depending on the area), and sentenced according to the guidelines in place. I don't know anyone, white or black, who was wrongly convicted or ended up in prison by mistake. Wrongful convictions in this day and age are virtually 0%. Mostly OLD cases from the 1990s or earlier are being revisited, but even then most are found to be correct and the sentence is affirmed under appeal despite as many writs of certoriari and habeasa corpuses that the ACLU tries to wrangle out of the unimpressed judges sitting on the appeals courts benches of the land.

Your people are impulsive, short tempered, quick to break laws to make money, and proportionally deeper in the drug trade than whites, and drugs are why most are in prison. This isn't 1874. they aren't being beaten or tortured or fed to dogs and forced to spar with each other in front of their white hosts just to live another week at the Master's home like Django. They can go to school, leave the hood, or learn a trade, or hell just work for $8 at a hardware store. Explain black millionaires and businessmen? They grew up rough too. You're stuck in a timewarp with your head up your ass. Go ask Parker if he agrees with your biased and warped opinions about black crime in America. You're black when it suits you then you ridicule SJWs and shit like BLM and those guys at the Starbucks 2 months ago. Pick a side or keep your fucking mouth shut and show off your trailer home some more.

How many inmates do you know Kwon3?

And where are the stats the that wrongful imprisonment is 0%? Theres no doubt the numbers are low, but they aren't none existent.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-cost-of-convicting-the-innocent/2015/07/24/260fc3a2-1aae-11e5-93b7-5eddc056ad8a_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.a036094679f8

https://news.vice.com/article/why-are-there-up-to-120000-innocent-people-in-us-prisons
Title: Re: Tim Fogarty - So he left Getbig for good?
Post by: Primemuscle on July 04, 2018, 07:37:46 PM
I've known and communicated with Tim Fogarty for years - it was his website, www.musclememory.com that helped me compile bodybuilding contest results for bodybuilder profiles on my website, the now defunct www.bodybuildingpro.com.  Although I do have a YouTube channel for the website [which I am not much interested in updating lately, due to YouTube ad revenue dropping over 60% since Brexit and Trump happened as a direct result of YouTube independent media].

Over the years, I think Tim posted good material on Getbig, but as with Primemuscle, there is only so much I can take from Social Justice Warriors.

Tim is a man who will everything he can to protest and interrupt the functioning of White societies, yet will praise Islam, despite the fact that - what - 17 Islamic countries have laws against homosexuality on the books?  There are Islamic countries that literally execute gays, yet homosexual White liberals like Tim Fogarty praise Islam while trashing the West.

In which case - fuck him!  The White male-hating girl.  How dare he live in a country ran by White males, when all he does is bash us?  I hope Tim does still lurk the boards and reads this.  I love how he trashes Western countries yet REFUSES to go live - or, shoot, even vacation as an openly gay male in an Islamic country where homosexuality is punishable by death.

In the end, actions speak louder than words - and the fact that NO ONE leaves Western countries, and people risk their lives to live in them is all the evidence that I need that he thinks the West is superior.

Take his Twitter page, for example:

https://twitter.com/fogartytim

Look at Tim's moronic retweet about "Genocide".

LOL...Tim, you moron:

WHY ARE NON-WHITE PEOPLE RISKING DEATH BY DEHYDRATION WALKING THROUGH DESERT TO MOVE INTO THE USA IF THEY ARE BEING TARGETS FOR "GENOCIDE".

HAHAHAHA.

Fucking stupid moron.

The reality, Tim - White male-hating asshole that you are: people want to live in countries ran by White men, and live FAR FAR AWAY from countries not ran by White men, for the same reasons YOU WANT THAT.

Because you think the West is SUPERIOR.  You think Western culture and Western values are SUPERIOR, in that they are richer, safer, less corrupt, and have more access to technology, education, and economic opportunities.

When you understand why YOU, Tim, prefer living in the West, you will be one step closer to understanding why more and more White people are getting tired of being demographically replaced through an ongoing immigration agenda that has at its roots the very goal that you claim to be against.  After all, when you target exclusively White countries with an immigration agenda that will see them COMPLETELY REPLACED within five generations from now, what is that, if not genocide?

Go flood Latin America with African immigrants if you care so much about improving the quality of life of the poorest citizens in the world.

Oh...and PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE, move to Latin America yourself, while you're at it.

My comment has nothing to do with him mentioning me....just so you know.

Matt is becoming more and more radical with each new rant. Frankly, I think he has lost whatever marbles he had. He has become a total nut job, plain and simple.

Remember folks, Matt is a person who stated that he wants to father an army of kids, but has no interest in their mothers outside of their baby factory abilities. He lives humbly while claiming to have a lot of money. He says he's highly educated, but he was fired from his job with the university that educated him because of his radical position and big mouth. There's a lot more about him that sends up red flags.

Honestly, I feel sorry for him. His mental illness is consuming his entire being.
Title: Re: Tim Fogarty - So he left Getbig for good?
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on July 04, 2018, 07:49:31 PM
Vince, those black and hispanic men weren't shoved into license plate or uniform sowing duties randomly. They were all arrested or indicted, afforded a defense counsel, offered a trial, convicted by a jury of their peers (often black depending on the area), and sentenced according to the guidelines in place. I don't know anyone, white or black, who was wrongly convicted or ended up in prison by mistake. Wrongful convictions in this day and age are virtually 0%. Mostly OLD cases from the 1990s or earlier are being revisited, but even then most are found to be correct and the sentence is affirmed under appeal despite as many writs of certoriari and habeasa corpuses that the ACLU tries to wrangle out of the unimpressed judges sitting on the appeals courts benches of the land.

Your people are impulsive, short tempered, quick to break laws to make money, and proportionally deeper in the drug trade than whites, and drugs are why most are in prison. This isn't 1874. they aren't being beaten or tortured or fed to dogs and forced to spar with each other in front of their white hosts just to live another week at the Master's home like Django. They can go to school, leave the hood, or learn a trade, or hell just work for $8 at a hardware store. Explain black millionaires and businessmen? They grew up rough too. You're stuck in a timewarp with your head up your ass. Go ask Parker if he agrees with your biased and warped opinions about black crime in America. You're black when it suits you then you ridicule SJWs and shit like BLM and those guys at the Starbucks 2 months ago. Pick a side or keep your fucking mouth shut and show off your trailer home some more.


Sentencing???   Many people pled guity falsely to get probation and get out early....otherwise, they'll languish in jail or be threatened with a ridiculously long sentence and with the public defenders convincing them to do to clear their books....its a very common thing.   The deck is stacked, the game is always been rigged and the purpose is for the government to get cheap labor.   Along with "mandatory sentencing guidelines" it allows the government to keep a man in prison for 10 years for just 50 grams of crack cocaine.  You have 300 grams of crack cocaine and its 20 years to life.  


Its also a revolving door...when an inmate leaves prison, he has no job opportunities and doesn't qualify for SNAP or government assistance which makes it quite tempting to go back to a life of crime.   I can say that because I worked in the corrections system...YOU DIDN'T.  I've seen some really stupid sentencing...a pastor who got a year in jail for being 3 dollars short on a child support payment, many homeless vets charged with "public nuisance"  and disturbing the peace for the crime of sleeping on a fucking bench.  

Fact is it should be concerning to you because it comes out of your taxes dollars and the government is profiting off of these incarcerated people.  There's over 2 million people in prison....that is ridiculous.  You can make the argument about black people being born criminal except that it seems as though every other country in the world doesn't seem to have that same issue???  Hmmm....I wonder why


Truth is its coming out of my wallet and maybe yours...I don't know your situation so you should be concerned.   The purpose of high incarceration is free money for the government.   It also doesn't stop there....asset forfeitures and home seizures, privatized bail and bond companies, traffic cameras, speed traps, etc.   Its all to get your money.  

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-cost-of-convicting-the-innocent/2015/07/24/260fc3a2-1aae-11e5-93b7-5eddc056ad8a_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.3c134498382c


 
Title: Re: Tim Fogarty - So he left Getbig for good?
Post by: Primemuscle on July 04, 2018, 08:20:13 PM
I stopped speaking to both Tim Fogarty and Primemuscle over their respect and tolerance of Islam.

I have no respect for either women or gay men who respect Islam.

If they claim to respect is Islam but qualify that statement by saying "Oh, but the anti-female and anti-homosexual attitudes, especially those codified into law, have to go", I can respect that.

Any woman or gay man who respects Islam in its current iteration has to GTF away from me.

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What other fantastical lies about Tim and me are bubbling up out of your rancid and twisted mind? Show my fellow Getbiggers proof that I respect Islam. You stopped speaking to us because we grew bored of your endlessly perverted ideas and stopped giving you the time of day. Tell us about you being a Holocaust denier and Nazi sympathizer.

My son who served 22 years in the military and continues as a government employee who helps protect our freedom, once called you out on your asinine remarks. If my son-in-law who is a 100% disabled vet and who was deployed three times to Afghanistan and Iraq ever caught wind of your insane comments, he'd crush you under his boots like the despicable bug that you are. And I do mean 'our' because Canadians couldn't fight their way out of a paper bag if they had to.

Hey, since you are so enamored with Trump, why don't you immigrate here so you can personally wipe his ass after he shits all over your country and your Prime Minister.

A part of me knows I should delete this post because I've worked with autistic folks such as yourself and I know how easily some of you can lose that tiny grip on reality you have. But I won't. This is my meltdown and I want it to be the mother of all meltdowns because no one deserves being put in there place more than you do.
Title: Re: Tim Fogarty - So he left Getbig for good?
Post by: Dave D on July 04, 2018, 08:25:24 PM
Mostly old cases.

I've known several people who went to prison, and all were guilty as hell according to the evidence and completely innocent if you asked them. Everyone else I know has a job and doesn't break the law therefore they're not inmates. Most people try to limit their proximity or acquaintance with society's failures.

Fair enough.

Title: Re: Tim Fogarty - So he left Getbig for good?
Post by: werewolf operative on July 04, 2018, 08:37:53 PM
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What other fantastical lies about Tim and me are bubbling up out of your rancid and twisted mind? Show my fellow Getbiggers proof that I respect Islam. You stopped speaking to us because we grew bored of your endlessly perverted ideas and stopped giving you the time of day. Tell us about you being a Holocaust denier and Nazi sympathizer.

My son who served 22 years in the military and continues as a government employee who helps protect our freedom, once called you out on your asinine remarks. If my son-in-law who is a 100% disabled vet and who was deployed three times to Afghanistan and Iraq ever caught wind of your insane comments, he'd crush you under his boots like the despicable bug that you are. And I do mean 'our' because Canadians couldn't fight their way out of a paper bag if they had to.

Hey, since you are so enamored with Trump, why don't you immigrate here so you can personally wipe his ass after he shits all over your country and your Prime Minister.

A part of me knows I should delete this post because I've worked with autistic folks such as yourself and I know how easily some of you can lose that tiny grip on reality you have. But I won't. This is my meltdown and I want it to be the mother of all meltdowns because no one deserves being put in there place more than you do.

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Title: Re: Tim Fogarty - So he left Getbig for good?
Post by: Dave D on July 04, 2018, 08:47:53 PM
A reasonable reply in a heated racial thread on getbig?

Wow. This site has changed indeed.  8)

Lol, I was just curious to your response and decided to play devil's advocate. You're right the cases are for older convictions, but that's partially  because the legal system takes time  (years) to research and reverse a decision.

 I've dealt with numerous prison inmates in my personal life over the last decade, and none were falsely incarcerated (despite most of them thinking the sentencing's were unfair). However some shared stories of "false" imprisonment (mostly deals taken on advice of counsel, even though they were innocent, to avoid a harsher sentence) and one was allegedly completely innocent that was being re-examined.  Rare but it happens.

I agree though criminals are generally consistent with their behavior and actions.
Title: Re: Tim Fogarty - So he left Getbig for good?
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on July 04, 2018, 08:55:47 PM
Not buying it. Besides, they weren't arrested and charged because a cop was bored. They put themselves in that position. Who's fault is that?

How so? They broke the law and went to prison. The government doesn't lock people up because they need labor. They can use illegals for that, if necessary. If such a thing was true, it would be the biggest and best held conspiracy in U.S. history. Again, not buying it.

Yeah, you know why? Because the old laws didn't work. They'd get out after 6 months and do it again. Long sentences work. Crack sales are way down from the 1980s.

Again, who's fault is that? No company wants to hire a felon; it's hard enough for law abiding people to find work, so why would some uneducated drug dealer or thief get a job with a respectable business? There's companies that will hire ex cons in return for a government subsidy for that very purpose. Most ex prisoners didn't go to jail for working a regular job, and have no intention of ever having one outside of prison. You're defending the indefensible.

They refuse to pay, and go to jail. There's 30 day warnings, 60 day warnings, and so on. Can't pay your bills? Don't have children.

Those countries have very few African Americans. The cost of having 45 million black people is staggering on this country. It doesn't concern me at all that taxes are used to house criminals. I'll gladly pay that to keep them out of my neighborhood. Let them sleep in bunk beds and wash toilets. Your prior alleged history as a corrections officer does not offer you any qualification over anyone else to judge, quite the opposite. As you were exposed to them, you grew fond of them and sympathize with their plight. They're called cons for a reason. They're con artists and fool everyone including and especially their captors.


The purpose is to keep criminals away from non criminals. They already get free meals and board; they should give back with some basic labor in return for this, and they're paid enough to buy treats at the commissary.

A billion online retailer's left-wing magazine wrote a sympathetic article to criminals? No kidding. You make me laugh. The gap in your argument is wider than the chasm between your front teeth, you buck-toothed failure.








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Title: Re: Tim Fogarty - So he left Getbig for good?
Post by: James on July 04, 2018, 09:15:07 PM
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Title: Re: Tim Fogarty - So he left Getbig for good?
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on July 04, 2018, 09:54:16 PM
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Trump is a billionaire so salary is meaningless.  Melania doesn't do shit nor participate in the activities that previous First Ladies did that required a moderate staff....which btw she actually has 9 people.  The report also is incorrect on Michelle's staff which was 16 at its peak
Title: Re: Tim Fogarty - So he left Getbig for good?
Post by: Primemuscle on July 04, 2018, 09:59:07 PM
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Looked at from a different perspective, this comes to mind, "you get what you pay for."

Before some of you get all over my ass for posting this, let me just say that my post is a joke and you shouldn't take it seriously. That Trump and Melania have managed to save on a tiny bit of government expense no matter how easy it is to do for people of their means, is commendable. It is also great publicity because it is something the average person can relate to.
Title: Re: Tim Fogarty - So he left Getbig for good?
Post by: illuminati on July 04, 2018, 10:13:25 PM
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Ones a White Man who’s got a lot of $
And is Pro his Country & Whites
His wife dosent need many staff.

The other is a black man doing what most black men do
Take Take Take for little if anything in return
His wife is a black woman which is equally as bad if not worse
Why the fuck she need 16 people to pamper her ugliness.
Title: Re: Tim Fogarty - So he left Getbig for good?
Post by: Dave D on July 04, 2018, 10:20:15 PM

Trump is a billionaire so salary is meaningless.  Melania doesn't do shit nor participate in the activities that previous First Ladies did that required a moderate staff....which btw she actually has 9 people.  The report also is incorrect on Michelle's staff which was 16 at its peak

You might want to correct your information.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/staff-injection/
Title: Re: Tim Fogarty - So he left Getbig for good?
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on July 04, 2018, 10:40:30 PM
You might want to correct your information.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/staff-injection/


Snopes is a liberal garbage site.   The fact is that a man with a net worth of 3.1 billion dollars is not going to give a shit about a 400k a year paycheck so the gesture is meaningless.   


As far as Melania is concerned, she doesn't even need a staff of 9 because she doesn't do anything.  Her previous occupation was a model and a socialite whereas Michelle Obama is an attorney.   The only initiative that Melania has done was one against bullying which fell flat because Donald Trump is one of the biggest bullies out there.  Its no knock on her....I don't think she expected her husband to win and now she's stuck.   Kind of sad also that she sleeps in a separate bedroom from Donald.   
Title: Re: Tim Fogarty - So he left Getbig for good?
Post by: Primemuscle on July 04, 2018, 10:51:49 PM

Snopes is a liberal garbage site.   The fact is that a man with a net worth of 3.1 billion dollars is not going to give a shit about a 400k a year paycheck so the gesture is meaningless.   


As far as Melania is concerned, she doesn't even need a staff of 9 because she doesn't do anything.  Her previous occupation was a model and a socialite whereas Michelle Obama is an attorney.   The only initiative that Melania has done was one against bullying which fell flat because Donald Trump is one of the biggest bullies out there.  Its no knock on her....I don't think she expected her husband to win and now she's stuck.   Kind of sad also that she sleeps in a separate bedroom from Donald.   

My point exactly. However, Melania might want to consider replacing the fashion consultant who suggested the "I don't care, do you" jacket.
Title: Re: Tim Fogarty - So he left Getbig for good?
Post by: SuperTed on July 05, 2018, 03:00:13 AM
My son who served 22 years in the military and continues as a government employee who helps protect our freedom

How does he help protect our "freedom"?
Title: Re: Tim Fogarty - So he left Getbig for good?
Post by: Dave D on July 05, 2018, 07:11:03 AM

Snopes is a liberal garbage site.   The fact is that a man with a net worth of 3.1 billion dollars is not going to give a shit about a 400k a year paycheck so the gesture is meaningless.   


As far as Melania is concerned, she doesn't even need a staff of 9 because she doesn't do anything.  Her previous occupation was a model and a socialite whereas Michelle Obama is an attorney.   The only initiative that Melania has done was one against bullying which fell flat because Donald Trump is one of the biggest bullies out there.  Its no knock on her....I don't think she expected her husband to win and now she's stuck.   Kind of sad also that she sleeps in a separate bedroom from Donald.   

No it's not,  you posted incorrect information and instead of admitting it you continue to make up information. You lose credibility acting like this.
Title: Re: Tim Fogarty - So he left Getbig for good?
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on July 05, 2018, 07:59:02 AM
No it's not,  you posted incorrect information and instead of admitting it you continue to make up information. You lose credibility acting like this.


Really....tell me one thing that Melania Trump does???




Don't worry I'll wait
Title: Re: Tim Fogarty - So he left Getbig for good?
Post by: Dave D on July 05, 2018, 08:11:18 AM

Really....tell me one thing that Melania Trump does???




Don't worry I'll wait

Vince stay on topic.

You said Michelle had a staff of 16 at its peak. I posted factual information that disproved this, your response was to attack the CREDIBLE source and then divert attention from the subject.

I thought you were becoming a serious poster offering valid opinions but you're the same troll you've always been. Which is fine because that's your niche.

I forgot you do a lot of this strictly for attention.

People may know your name but no one will take you serious.
Title: Re: Tim Fogarty - So he left Getbig for good?
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on July 05, 2018, 08:22:41 AM
Vince stay on topic.

You said Michelle had a staff of 16 at its peak. I posted factual information that disproved this, your response was to attack the CREDIBLE source and then divert attention from the subject.

I thought you were becoming a serious poster offering valid opinions but you're the same troll you've always been. Which is fine because that's your niche.

I forgot you do a lot of this strictly for attention.

People may know your name but no one will take you serious.


She had a staff of 16.   I don't consider indirect people as part of that staff but it makes no difference.   Melania doesn't do anything.....period.  Michelle did, Laura Bush did...every other First Lady did up until this point to warrant a staff
Title: Re: Tim Fogarty - So he left Getbig for good?
Post by: Dave D on July 05, 2018, 08:28:24 AM

She had a staff of 16.   I don't consider indirect people as part of that staff but it makes no difference.   Melania doesn't do anything.....period.  Michelle did, Laura Bush did...every other First Lady did up until this point to warrant a staff

Lol okay you're right she had a staff of 16 plus a minimum of 4 more. You don't count indirect people? Good to know I'll get that information to the white house press staff via my indirect contacts.

God speed Goodrum. Clown on.
Title: Re: Tim Fogarty - So he left Getbig for good?
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on July 05, 2018, 08:32:42 AM
Lol okay you're right she had a staff of 16 plus a minimum of 4 more. You don't count indirect people? Good to know I'll get that information to the white house press staff via my indirect contacts.

God speed Goodrum. Clown on.


Fuck you.   
Title: Re: Tim Fogarty - So he left Getbig for good?
Post by: Dave D on July 05, 2018, 08:35:07 AM

Fuck you.   

I'm not here to fulfill your fantasy's Vince.

Title: Re: Tim Fogarty - So he left Getbig for good?
Post by: Kwon on July 05, 2018, 09:34:49 AM
I'm not here to fulfill your fantasy's Vince.



Michelle danced on Ellen...  ;D
Title: Re: Tim Fogarty - So he left Getbig for good?
Post by: Dave D on July 05, 2018, 09:39:46 AM
Michelle danced on Ellen...  ;D

She had a staff of 16. FACT.

I don't count indirect people as part of that staff. Here and there.
Title: Re: Tim Fogarty - So he left Getbig for good?
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on July 05, 2018, 01:23:36 PM
http://reason.com/blog/2018/07/05/he-was-assaulted-by-three-teens-at-work
Title: Re: Tim Fogarty - So he left Getbig for good?
Post by: illuminati on July 05, 2018, 01:29:32 PM
She had a staff of 16. FACT.

I don't count indirect people as part of that staff. Here and there.

Wow she only had a staff of 16 to help her - How did she manage.... ::)

Out of interest how many staff has she got now I wonder...?
Title: Re: Tim Fogarty - So he left Getbig for good?
Post by: ratherbebig on July 05, 2018, 01:31:00 PM
how did a thread about tim fogary be about the staff of obamas wife?
Title: Re: Tim Fogarty - So he left Getbig for good?
Post by: werewolf operative on July 05, 2018, 01:44:07 PM
http://reason.com/blog/2018/07/05/he-was-assaulted-by-three-teens-at-work

Did you actually read this before posting you moron?
Title: Re: Tim Fogarty - So he left Getbig for good?
Post by: Primemuscle on July 05, 2018, 01:44:37 PM
how did a thread about tim fogary be about the staff of obamas wife?

Miracles never cease.
Title: Re: Tim Fogarty - So he left Getbig for good?
Post by: illuminati on July 05, 2018, 01:48:41 PM
how did a thread about tim fogary be about the staff of obamas wife?

Likely because he’s a queer & not relevant at all
Though Obuma’s Wife is only fractionally more relevant.
Title: Re: Tim Fogarty - So he left Getbig for good?
Post by: werewolf operative on July 05, 2018, 01:58:42 PM
how did a thread about tim fogary be about the staff of obamas wife?

This.

Fuck off with this boomer shit, nobody cares.
Title: Re: Tim Fogarty - So he left Getbig for good?
Post by: Dave D on July 05, 2018, 06:55:52 PM
how did a thread about tim fogary be about the staff of obamas wife?

I pointed out that Goodrum was incorrect about the number of Michelles staff and in typical Vince fashion he avoided the question then changed the narrative to fit his story.

The issue is Vince is spouting non truths as fact, and instead of owning his error he maintained his misinformation as correct and now I wonder if he ever told the truth on here....

I mean did he really sell steroids, was caliber fitness really successful online store, is bee pollen even effective, did he really work at lowes, is there a boy in India setting up his YouTube channel, are the view counts on his videos even accurate.....

I just can't trust Vince.
Title: Re: Tim Fogarty - So he left Getbig for good?
Post by: The Scott on July 05, 2018, 07:00:21 PM
Somewhere, Fogarty is curled into a fecal position.  Another Social JustUs Whiner.

Having stated the obvious, I should like to say that his musclememory site was very good but I have not been there in years.  It probably still is.
Title: Re: Tim Fogarty - So he left Getbig for good?
Post by: Earl1972 on July 05, 2018, 07:41:39 PM
why did trump winning make him leave getbig?

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Title: Re: Tim Fogarty - So he left Getbig for good?
Post by: 2ND COMING on July 05, 2018, 07:43:57 PM
We should all welcome Tim SchmoeHearty back even if his beliefs are shit. The boards about 95% right leaning and can get a bit echoey.
Title: Re: Tim Fogarty - So he left Getbig for good?
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on July 06, 2018, 08:13:02 AM
I pointed out that Goodrum was incorrect about the number of Michelles staff and in typical Vince fashion he avoided the question then changed the narrative to fit his story.

The issue is Vince is spouting non truths as fact, and instead of owning his error he maintained his misinformation as correct and now I wonder if he ever told the truth on here....

I mean did he really sell steroids, was caliber fitness really successful online store, is bee pollen even effective, did he really work at lowes, is there a boy in India setting up his YouTube channel, are the view counts on his videos even accurate.....

I just can't trust Vince.


No, I'm right but I'm not going to continue a pointless conversation about the First Ladies number of people working for her.   The idea that you're right because you say so is stupid.
Title: Re: Tim Fogarty - So he left Getbig for good?
Post by: Dave D on July 06, 2018, 08:40:58 AM

No, I'm right but I'm not going to continue a pointless conversation about the First Ladies number of people working for her.   The idea that you're right because you say so is stupid.

Oh okay.

You're right because you say so. I'm wrong because you say so. This makes sense as you seem to be an expert on every subject.

I posted evidence that your "facts" were incorrect you response was my legitimate and credible   source was wrong because you say so.

Vince you could have been a real industry insider and a prominent name instead you're a punchline among the 53 people who know your name.

You're a goof
Title: Re: Tim Fogarty - So he left Getbig for good?
Post by: Dave D on July 06, 2018, 01:56:43 PM
His clientele are restlessly pacing back and forth, refreshing their inboxes hourly for the account approval e-mail so they can flood the forum in an avalanche of support for him in this thread.

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Vince is a charlatan.

He has created a name for himself off of his poor showing at the Metrolina in the early 2000's and blamed his untrained shape on his miss timing his carb intake.

He's  an outright troll. Anytime a subject is brought up he weighs in with his direct sources (it doesn't matter the topic Vince's alleys are many and they have vast connections).

He constantly contradicts himself on here

Vince wants to be recognized so he will do whatever it takes to get that recognition. There's no doubt he's frustrated that turds like Blaha and Genovea have followings while Vince goes unnoticed.


Title: Re: Tim Fogarty - So he left Getbig for good?
Post by: Parker on July 06, 2018, 02:33:38 PM
Pretty much.

Neither of those guys are more knowledgeable than him or have contests placings that are superior to his or anything credential-based. They're selling smoke, just like he is. The difference is Genova is a likable goof - you could say mentally challenged - and is frequently in social situations that are funny/interesting/worth watching, like that time he got confronted by the dad or relative of some girl he was working on (the details are hazy, it's been a while). Blaha is so sure of himself and has such a cocky demeanor that you can't help but respond to him, even if it's 100% negative. He's also branched out into other areas and is good at networking himself into the good graces of more popular/fit/interesting people.

Vince makes webcam videos of himself, just talking about this or that topic. There's no people. There;s no controversy or fun. It's just a dry, repetitive summary of his day, his property, his opinions on this or that, and once in a while a personal jab at someone who messaged him in confidence, like in this latest video. As if to say, "you're not in my league, don't even come at me like that."

Nobody wants to watch those kinds of videos. Anyone, and I mean anyone, can make them. There's nothing unique or funny or original, it's just really, really boring.
You had me up until saying that Genova is a likeable goof. He is not likeable.

Wait a min, I forgot you are doing an excellent troll job on everyone you just mentioned.
Title: Re: Tim Fogarty - So he left Getbig for good?
Post by: SF1900 on July 06, 2018, 02:36:07 PM
Tim used to make the republican getbiggers utterly meltdown.

It was quite the sight to see.
Title: Re: Tim Fogarty - So he left Getbig for good?
Post by: Parker on July 06, 2018, 04:27:54 PM
You don't like him? Well, that's entirely understandable. I think he's amusing, so by extension I do like him. I just wouldn't want to be him or look like him or be near him irl.
I am indifferent to him. He is a socially and mentally stunted 30+ year old with the mind of a 14 year old who apparently has a some sort of disability that he is ashamed to admit to. He whines, has temper tantrums, and begs, for attention, likes, and gas money.  People talk him into doing obscene and embarrassing things on camera, and he does them just to be accepted and liked. doesn't listen to advice, and he seemingly is exploited (willingly) by others behind the camera for laughs...he is a running joke to them, and he gets them attention. And because of this, I don't find him amusing. I don't find exploiting possibly a mentally disabled and very well "life" challenged individual amusing. Nor turning him into what could very well be the Lennie Small of bodybuilding. It's like the ghost of John Steinbeck is a bodybuilding and social media afictionado and decided recreate that character in Genova.
Title: Re: Tim Fogarty - So he left Getbig for good?
Post by: Parker on July 06, 2018, 05:11:00 PM
That's what I would call the equivalent of a customs officer's secondary inspection. Leaves no detail out and is generally very thorough on the traveler attempting to enter the country. My version was a primary inspection - he's a trainwreck and a retard but he makes me (and quite a lot of other people) laugh.

Big Lenny's jokes, though. Ever since I saw that video of a tranny pissing in his mouth, I finally 'get' his humor.
I went back and reread what I wrote, and your discription is correct. Especially with what is going on in the news.
I do have to admit, his inability to have underwear without fresh urine stains is amusing.

And I am waiting for whatever is in Big Lenny's gut to burst out at the most inopportune moment. 
Title: Re: Tim Fogarty - So he left Getbig for good?
Post by: jwb on July 07, 2018, 01:18:04 AM
I am indifferent to him. He is a socially and mentally stunted 30+ year old with the mind of a 14 year old who apparently has a some sort of disability that he is ashamed to admit to. He whines, has temper tantrums, and begs, for attention, likes, and gas money.  People talk him into doing obscene and embarrassing things on camera, and he does them just to be accepted and liked. doesn't listen to advice, and he seemingly is exploited (willingly) by others behind the camera for laughs...he is a running joke to them, and he gets them attention. And because of this, I don't find him amusing. I don't find exploiting possibly a mentally disabled and very well "life" challenged individual amusing. Nor turning him into what could very well be the Lennie Small of bodybuilding. It's like the ghost of John Steinbeck is a bodybuilding and social media afictionado and decided recreate that character in Genova.
he has autism
Title: Re: Tim Fogarty - So he left Getbig for good?
Post by: Powerlift66 on July 07, 2018, 03:50:07 AM
Genova is about as dis-likable as one can get.
Scammer, entitled, liar, etc.

Yeah I know he's mentally challenged, so are many w/ down syndrome and issues like that, who happen to be great people.
Title: Re: Tim Fogarty - So he left Getbig for good?
Post by: The Scott on July 08, 2018, 05:03:00 PM
can you name any
because I haven't too many people with Down who achieved anything
admittedly, it's probably not their fault
but certainly it's a huge disadvantage

Sean Penn.  Jimmy (JIMMAH!) Fallon.  Colbert. Jimmy Kimmel (JIMMAH KIMMEL!)  Most 'tards go into "the arts". ;D