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Title: GH15 - Pocket Bible
Post by: tres_taco_combo on July 08, 2018, 06:54:40 PM
i was off bbing boards for several years. rumors who is, was etc

but here is his bible -

http://ge.tt/98CNHaR/v/0

Title: Re: gh15 bible - link
Post by: Kwon on July 08, 2018, 06:57:16 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/922sCj0.gif)


https://i.imgur.com/922sCj0.gif (https://i.imgur.com/922sCj0.gif)
Title: Re: gh15 bible - link
Post by: Rearden Metal on July 08, 2018, 08:34:33 PM
OMR used to ban people for promoting gh15's stuff.

Then again that was 4 years ago; I'm surely this place has cooled down this then and such things can be overlooked.

I'm still curious about who he was post-GB. It was said to be a gimmick account on here shared by several flagship posters of the site, but once his site was up and running he was definitely his own man.

I IP flagged him in a specific place in FL. He's also plagairized a man from Maine on a supernatural forum. Either that or he shared an account with a mid 40's real estate agent from maine.

Anyway the non Nasser version of gh15 is a fraud and has been proven so several times over. I'd know, I was one of 5 who built his forum.

Apply85, where you at?
Title: Re: gh15 bible - link
Post by: Rearden Metal on July 08, 2018, 08:35:31 PM
btw, the info he doxxed me with was incorrect. Fucking loser couldn't even get that shit right even after I'd doxxed myself.
Title: Re: gh15 bible - link
Post by: tres_taco_combo on July 08, 2018, 09:12:03 PM
who cares who the fuck he is or not is

if there is useful advice lets go for it
Title: Re: gh15 bible - link
Post by: cephissus on July 08, 2018, 10:35:10 PM
So you'll take advice from someone you don't know? That's really weird, man.

You take advice from people you barely know all the time, and they took their advice from people they never knew at all.
Title: Re: gh15 bible - link
Post by: NotMrAverage on July 09, 2018, 09:22:52 AM
Gh 15:s info is the real deal.

His bible is godgiven to any serious bb.
Title: Re: gh15 bible - link
Post by: Rearden Metal on July 09, 2018, 11:35:26 AM
Yeah the Nasser involvement was generally accepted although whether he posted or just passed along info to be posted was never clear to me. Either way, RIP beautiful man with glasses.

I do recall you being on here back in the days when this was a topic, so no one should doubt your knowledge in relation to this thread. Still, the true identity remains elusive...and considering what a large following he had, that's somewhat respectable to pull off.

Best I can tell you is prior to the forum going up- Myself, g101, apply85 and gh15 would map out the forum template in private chat rooms. g101 became "admin". He's a decent guy from NC who got caught up in the bullshit and couldn't back his way out since gh15 had his identity. Apply85 was a young kid from NY with some helpful skills. I don't even know how I ended up in there, probably because the early advices of gh15 worked tremendously well with me and I promoted it. Anyway, in the chatroom I'd be alone with gh15 at times and I think (theory) that Alex23 was sometimes on the account, other times Nasser. Those that are true getbiggers know this all lines up .
Title: Re: gh15 bible - link
Post by: chaos on July 09, 2018, 12:09:22 PM
Interesting. Those are some names I hadn't heard of before. It was said to be SpecialEd, Blockhead, Alex23. But I don't know anything about it so I'll have to take your word over regular posters from the time period.
Rearended Mental has been around forever, was an elf or wizard or warlock or some shit. He'd have a good idea of the inside operation of the gh15 account.
Question is, who were your previous incarnations?
Title: Re: gh15 bible - link
Post by: chaos on July 09, 2018, 12:14:46 PM
That's never a good question to ask around these parts. All that baggage.  :D
;)
Title: Re: gh15 bible - link
Post by: tres_taco_combo on July 09, 2018, 03:36:55 PM
Interesting. Those are some names I hadn't heard of before. It was said to be SpecialEd, Blockhead, Alex23. But I don't know anything about it so I'll have to take your word over regular posters from the time period.

i joined blockhead's forum since it was so funny

what was it called? i loved that place for a good year or so
Title: Re: gh15 bible - link
Post by: a_pupil on July 09, 2018, 03:57:36 PM
Best I can tell you is prior to the forum going up- Myself, g101, apply85 and gh15 would map out the forum template in private chat rooms. g101 became "admin". He's a decent guy from NC who got caught up in the bullshit and couldn't back his way out since gh15 had his identity. Apply85 was a young kid from NY with some helpful skills. I don't even know how I ended up in there, probably because the early advices of gh15 worked tremendously well with me and I promoted it. Anyway, in the chatroom I'd be alone with gh15 at times and I think (theory) that Alex23 was sometimes on the account, other times Nasser. Those that are true getbiggers know this all lines up .

You saying it was nasser during the period when his forum was being setup? i.e. post kigtropina saga?

I used to start my day reading his recent posts from his profile but the shit got old when the account became a 24 hour delusional shitposting/shill tool. By that point it was obvious that it wasn't a single person/secret pro behind it anymore. It's strange so many autistic kids kept following him though. That whole fake natty crusade shit was childish.
Title: Re: gh15 bible - link
Post by: tres_taco_combo on July 09, 2018, 04:40:10 PM
You take advice from people you barely know all the time, and they took their advice from people they never knew at all.

very true
Title: Re: gh15 bible - link
Post by: Rearden Metal on July 09, 2018, 05:20:58 PM
Rearended Mental has been around forever, was an elf or wizard or warlock or some shit. He'd have a good idea of the inside operation of the gh15 account.
Question is, who were your previous incarnations?

I've never posted on another online name, ever. Except for on a poker forum when my Rearden Metal account was locked.
Title: Re: gh15 bible - link
Post by: Rearden Metal on July 09, 2018, 05:22:52 PM
You saying it was nasser during the period when his forum was being setup? i.e. post kigtropina saga?

I used to start my day reading his recent posts from his profile but the shit got old when the account became a 24 hour delusional shitposting/shill tool. By that point it was obvious that it wasn't a single person/secret pro behind it anymore. It's strange so many autistic kids kept following him though. That whole fake natty crusade shit was childish.

It's very hard to figure out when Nasser completely phased out of the account. I believe it was pre kigtropina, though.
Title: Re: gh15 bible - link
Post by: spiro on July 09, 2018, 05:27:47 PM
Man forums actually use to be fun. They suck now.
Title: Re: gh15 bible - link
Post by: tres_taco_combo on July 09, 2018, 05:36:38 PM
Man forums actually use to be fun. They suck now.
all forums have..... car forums as well
Title: Re: gh15 bible - link
Post by: chaos on July 09, 2018, 08:01:48 PM
I've never posted on another online name, ever. Except for on a poker forum when my Rearden Metal account was locked.
I was asking kwon3 about his previous incarnations, quite obvious he's from way back.
Title: Re: gh15 bible - link
Post by: Rearden Metal on July 10, 2018, 06:17:47 AM
I was asking kwon3 about his previous incarnations, quite obvious he's from way back.

Ah, ok, gotcha. I figured anyone who knew my name basically knows who I am by now.

And yeah, forums used to be amazing. This place was fucking incredible in it's heyday.
Title: Re: gh15 bible - link
Post by: OneMoreRep on July 10, 2018, 06:41:56 AM
Ah, ok, gotcha. I figured anyone who knew my name basically knows who I am by now.

And yeah, forums used to be amazing. This place was fucking incredible in it's heyday.

It's the memory of those glory days that keeps us coming back. All you need of the right members to have that kind of environment again. The forum itself is just a medium, get the 25-50 members that know how to bring the humor and this place is back. Problem is people evolve into others things (instagram, Twitter, Facebook or simply stepping outside and talking to people in the flesh). Nonetheless, this place is still a great place to unwind at. The last bastion of the wild west of bodybuilding forums.

"1"
Title: Re: gh15 bible - link
Post by: a_pupil on July 10, 2018, 06:56:42 AM
I don't see why people gravitated so much towards facebook/twitter from message boards.

Forums have the conversations located under subject headings and all viewers can find it. Whereas on facebook there is no organisation, so the people who will comment and see are those who have it pop up on their timeline. So unless you're on facebook 24/7 you're going to miss most of the interesting stuff.
Title: Re: gh15 bible - link
Post by: Griffith on July 10, 2018, 07:13:11 AM
Thanks!!!
Title: Re: gh15 bible - link
Post by: BB on July 10, 2018, 07:28:28 AM
i joined blockhead's forum since it was so funny

what was it called? i loved that place for a good year or so

Muscle Week? I remember them breaking the Juan Morel story.

They had a Facebook page, but that seems dead now.





Title: Re: gh15 bible - link
Post by: Rearden Metal on July 11, 2018, 05:55:00 PM
It's the memory of those glory days that keeps us coming back. All you need of the right members to have that kind of environment again. The forum itself is just a medium, get the 25-50 members that know how to bring the humor and this place is back. Problem is people evolve into others things (instagram, Twitter, Facebook or simply stepping outside and talking to people in the flesh). Nonetheless, this place is still a great place to unwind at. The last bastion of the wild west of bodybuilding forums.

"1"

Your overzealous, personal vendetta type moderating doesn't help. Moderating at all doesn't help. It was the fucking thunderdome and you came in and gayed it all up.
Title: Re: gh15 bible - link
Post by: tres_taco_combo on July 11, 2018, 05:59:53 PM
Muscle Week? I remember them breaking the Juan Morel story.

They had a Facebook page, but that seems dead now.




muscleweek haha yep. they ripped on getbig all the time there
Title: Re: gh15 bible - link
Post by: OneMoreRep on July 11, 2018, 07:33:10 PM
Your overzealous, personal vendetta type moderating doesn't help. Moderating at all doesn't help. It was the fucking thunderdome and you came in and gayed it all up.

Who are you?

"1"
Title: Re: gh15 bible - link
Post by: tres_taco_combo on July 11, 2018, 09:34:58 PM
pretty much, just take test and tren and some gh and you good to go. that is what i got that



Title: Re: gh15 bible - link
Post by: Rearden Metal on July 13, 2018, 05:26:38 PM
Who are you?

"1"


Look at my join date. I'm an OG. You've deleted posts and threads of mine, now acting like you don't know. Seems queer you can't remember.
Title: Re: gh15 bible - link
Post by: OneMoreRep on July 14, 2018, 09:52:53 AM
Look at my join date. I'm an OG. You've deleted posts and threads of mine, now acting like you don't know. Seems queer you can't remember.

Do you have an issue with Gay people? Everything about your posts screams either homophobe or closeted homosexual. You do bodybuilding and inject drugs (ie you worship the male body and like to have big muscles, muscles that if you haven't noticed are only impressive to other oiled-up, muscle men) and have the nerve to be blowing your gay whistle while pointing at me like the proverbial, Rayban-wearing traffic cop that sports that oh-so-trimmed mustache.

I'm sure if I've deleted your threads it had much to do with your joyriding on gh15's dick, in other words promoting his propaganda. That shared account was banned from this forum for good reason. That's old news though. Technically, this thread wouldn't last as long as it has if and when my "gayness" was on point. My major issue with the members of that site was the blind, idol-worshiping they had towards that shared account. The fact that he would give you guys missions that involved possibly hurting innocent people for a few bottles of "legit gh".

Anyway, stop being such a faggot and enjoy yourself around here. No one cares to have these useless back-and-forths anymore. It's pathetic. I appreciate your participation and if I can be of service to you, please don't hesitate to send me a PM.

"1"
Title: Re: gh15 bible - link
Post by: SF1900 on July 14, 2018, 12:32:06 PM
I don't see why people gravitated so much towards facebook/twitter from message boards.

Forums have the conversations located under subject headings and all viewers can find it. Whereas on facebook there is no organisation, so the people who will comment and see are those who have it pop up on their timeline. So unless you're on facebook 24/7 you're going to miss most of the interesting stuff.

Here's why. Or, at least people are trying to make money off of the above mentioned sites.

(https://media1.tenor.com/images/70b192e2fd16f1da72a2565951407c02/tenor.gif?itemid=6195567)
Title: Re: gh15 bible - link
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on July 14, 2018, 10:09:15 PM
Do you have an issue with Gay people? Everything about your posts screams either homophobe or closeted homosexual. You do bodybuilding and inject drugs (ie you worship the male body and like to have big muscles, muscles that if you haven't noticed are only impressive to other oiled-up, muscle men) and have the nerve to be blowing your gay whistle while pointing at me like the proverbial, Rayban-wearing traffic cop that sports that oh-so-trimmed mustache.

I'm sure if I've deleted your threads it had much to do with your joyriding on gh15's dick, in other words promoting his propaganda. That shared account was banned from this forum for good reason. That's old news though. Technically, this thread wouldn't last as long as it has if and when my "gayness" was on point. My major issue with the members of that site was the blind, idol-worshiping they had towards that shared account. The fact that he would give you guys missions that involved possibly hurting innocent people for a few bottles of "legit gh".

Anyway, stop being such a faggot and enjoy yourself around here. No one cares to have these useless back-and-forths anymore. It's pathetic. I appreciate your participation and if I can be of service to you, please don't hesitate to send me a PM.

"1"

gh15 is banned?
Title: Re: gh15 bible - link
Post by: Dpone555 on July 15, 2018, 09:06:07 AM
gh15 is banned?

Good riddance. It’s some guy being a parrot who posts incredibly vague hormone advice. He hasnt posted anything worth reading in half a decade.
Title: Re: gh15 bible - link
Post by: a_pupil on July 15, 2018, 02:46:47 PM
Good riddance. It’s some guy being a parrot who posts incredibly vague hormone advice. He hasnt posted anything worth reading in half a decade.

he was literally begging people to join up at his forum when he restarted posting here a few months ago.

getbig will always prevail.
Title: Re: gh15 bible - link
Post by: Coffeed on July 15, 2018, 02:58:04 PM
once they get those legit kigs,,, things will change
Title: Re: gh15 bible - link
Post by: TheOne on July 15, 2018, 07:57:10 PM
Legit kigs?  What an oxymoron, kigs were never legit and never will be.
Title: Re: gh15 bible - link
Post by: Rearden Metal on July 16, 2018, 08:01:44 PM
Do you have an issue with Gay people? Everything about your posts screams either homophobe or closeted homosexual. You do bodybuilding and inject drugs (ie you worship the male body and like to have big muscles, muscles that if you haven't noticed are only impressive to other oiled-up, muscle men) and have the nerve to be blowing your gay whistle while pointing at me like the proverbial, Rayban-wearing traffic cop that sports that oh-so-trimmed mustache.

I'm sure if I've deleted your threads it had much to do with your joyriding on gh15's dick, in other words promoting his propaganda. That shared account was banned from this forum for good reason. That's old news though. Technically, this thread wouldn't last as long as it has if and when my "gayness" was on point. My major issue with the members of that site was the blind, idol-worshiping they had towards that shared account. The fact that he would give you guys missions that involved possibly hurting innocent people for a few bottles of "legit gh".

Anyway, stop being such a faggot and enjoy yourself around here. No one cares to have these useless back-and-forths anymore. It's pathetic. I appreciate your participation and if I can be of service to you, please don't hesitate to send me a PM.

"1"

No problem with gay people at all. You said it best, it's the guys who bother me. I have strong distaste for overzealous moderation. When you altered the words in my posts you lost any credibility you might have had at all.

I have sent you PM's, back when I gave a fuck about posting or reading all the threads here. There was a time this board was great. You probably weren't around for it.

FWIW I never participated in any "missions" w gh15 and refused to hurt anyone. I stepped down from all mod/coaching positions on the forum and became public enemy #1, even got doxxed on that board.
Title: Re: GH15 - Pocket Bible
Post by: Rearden Metal on July 18, 2018, 05:03:17 AM
^ see above where OMR uses "homo", I repeat him quoting him and he changes the word in my post. Censorship made this forum suck.
Title: Re: GH15 - Pocket Bible
Post by: ilalin on July 18, 2018, 08:46:37 AM
gh15 had some very good advice back in the day, the problem is you'd have to have a knowledgeable person sift through the mountain of shit to find good one-liners.
Title: Re: GH15 - Pocket Bible
Post by: OneMoreRep on July 18, 2018, 08:57:01 AM
^ see above where OMR uses "homo", I repeat him quoting him and he changes the word in my post. Censorship made this forum suck.

No one changed your post, it's how the forum responds to key words.

You can't write F a g g o t together unless you add a grammatical code in between faggot. Try typing it out and in between the a & g place the "bold" function.

"1"
Title: Re: GH15 - Pocket Bible
Post by: The Italian Lifter on July 19, 2018, 01:00:19 AM
i was off bbing boards for several years. rumors who is, was etc

but here is his bible -

http://ge.tt/98CNHaR/v/0


Link doesn't work (at least for me).
Title: Re: GH15 - Pocket Bible
Post by: pellius on July 19, 2018, 01:29:26 AM
When people claim that Nasser was gh15 it seems based more on a gut feeling. I've never read a cogent argument backed by some evidence to support this claim. People also think Dennis James is gh15 because he lived in Germany and loves sushi. So no one can know for sure who gh15 is but does have a lot of inside knowledge of professional bbing.

Anyway, I wrote my reasons, my opinion, some years ago when asked why I don't think it was Nasser. Again, just my opinion, but it comes from some real-world evidence and experience with gh15.

I suggest Calvinh pass on this one.

I've only managed to skim through this thread but I wanted to address an issue that I am asked about so often and comes up frequently and want to put to rest: Was Nasser gh15?

Most people who believe that gh15 was Nasser do so mostly out of a gut feeling. As for me, and this is just my opinion, it's not based on a gut feeling but from my experience with gh15.

I read gh15's very first post on GetBig the day he made it. He came to that board initially to comment on the Craig Titus/Kelly Ryan murder case. Both whom he always referred to as "the murderer and his ugly wife." He did this not only to be funny. There was a specific reason, a religious-based one, that will become apparent later.

And as a mod on his board, I've known and communicated with gh15 for a very, very long time since day one of his appearances and have read every single one of his tens and thousands of posts.

I don't believe he was Nasser and here's why.

First off, I wish it was Nasser if only to shut up the people that think gh15 was an idiot. gh15 is a very smart and well-informed individual. And if anybody knew Nasser it would not be a stretch to say that he was the most intelligent bodybuilder that ever lived. The guy was a genius.

On GetBig there was a group of rabid Nasser fans that called themselves "Team Nasser" led by Sherief Shalaby and Big Bobs (who use to post here as well). Both Sherief and Bobs were actually friends in real life with Nasser and got together socially. Sherief was with him at a gym in Egypt the day before Nasser died.

Now, gh15 absolutely hated and despise this one guy on the GetBig board named Alex, also known as "FatAlex" by his detractors and "The King" by his fans. I never had a problem with Alex and he just seemed like a guy who just liked to have fun but many took it the wrong way. I considered Alex an exceptionally intelligent guy.

Then pictures and posts started surfacing which showed Alex, Bobs and Nasser hanging out. Having lunch, going to Nasser's house, goofing around. I'm not sure what part of Cali that Bobs lived but Alex was more Northern Ca and, or course, Nasser was in San Diego.

Now gh15 made no secret of being a big fan of "the beautiful man with glasses" as he always referred to Nasser so it infuriated him to see "FatAlex" chumming around with Nasser. He contacted me (this is when he was still on GetBig), as he knew I was a big fan of Team Nasser and always defended them since they were bashed continuously on the GetBig board. He wanted to know how the hell Alex got into Nasser's inner circle. I contacted Bobs and Sherief and Bob told me that, purely by coincidence, Alex was dating his (Bob's) sister. Bob and Alex didn't know each other personally and Bob didn't know that the Alex dating his sister was also the same Alex from GetBig. Alex would eventually marry Bob's sister so they became brother-in-laws. Small world.

So it seems unlikely that Nasser would contact me to inquire why Alex was hanging around with him.

But, you say, Nasser sold the gh15 to someone else who went and started the gh15 board. Well, anything is possible I guess. But when rumors started circulating about Nasser's death again gh15 contacted to me to get in touch with Sherief, as gh15 knew Sherief lived in Egypt and would meet with Nasser at some point. He wanted me to confirm that Nasser's death wasn't a rumor before he made an announcement and commentary on his passing on his board.

Again it would seem unlikely that someone who had business dealings with Nasser wouldn't have his own contacts to confirm Nasser's passing.

Another fact, one that is most overlooked by seemingly everybody and one of the most important aspects that bonded me to gh15 was that gh15 was an unapologetic Zionist. There is no one in bodybuilding that is more outspoken in support of Israel existing as an independent State and the support of the Jewish people as gh15. No one was more knowledgeable about Jewish history, Jewish leaders past and present, and the traditions and practices of Judaism. Was gh15 a Jew or a practicing Jew? I don't know for sure. But neither am I and I share his passion for the Jewish people. In Christianity Jews are special people. They are the Chosen Ones though many misunderstand what that means.

Remember Ron Goldman, the father of the son the O.J murdered? Remember he never referred to O.J. as "O.J."? He always referred to him as "the murderer". That is a Jewish practice, though somewhat recent. If you notice when reading something written by an observant Jew (The Jewish World Review) that they never write the name "God" it's always "G_d". For a Jew, when referring to God they use the name in a different context. In Ex. 3:13-22: When Moses asks God what His "name" is. Moses is not asking "what should I call you;" rather, he is asking "who are you; what are you like; what have you done?"

So it's kind of a play on that that many Jews use in certain special circumstance. O.J. is simply "the murderer". Craig and Kelly are simply "the murdered and his ugly wife." Nasser, is "the beautiful man with glasses."

Why does it matter that gh15 is either a Jew and/or an unabashed supporter of Jews?
Because Nasser was a Muslim. Now it can be argued that he wasn't a true Muslim as he didn't follow their practices to the letter, if at all, during most of his adult life. But both his parents were Muslims, he was raised a Muslim, and the Muslims claimed him as their own. It has been confirmed that later in life Nasser attended Jumuah and professed shahadah. As happens to so many of us when we get older our perspective on life changes and perhaps Nasser was getting back to his old religious upbringing. God takes on a greater significance as you get older and the prospect of death takes a more urgent tone.

And though there was some real questions regarding the cause of death, no autopsy was done as it is a Muslim tradition that the deceased be buried ASAP (in Nasser's case, the very next day), and Nasser was buried with a Muslim ceremony.

I don't think I need to explain the incongruity of a Muslim preaching Zionism and celebrating Jewish holidays and traditions since day one. Since his very first arrival on GetBig.

Again, this is just my opinion but it is based on real evidence and my long experience with gh15. Take it for what it's worth. Again, just my opinion.
Title: Re: GH15 - Pocket Bible
Post by: Rearden Metal on July 19, 2018, 05:49:40 AM
Hello Pellius,

A few things of note.

1. Nasser was estranged from his family, nearly disowned. It's conceivable he was a heretic to his religion.

2. Alex23 and Nasser were friends, plenty of photo evidence to support.

3. Alex23 is extremely computer savvy, especially with security.

4. I was present for the building of the forum, which utilized some (at the time) smart security measures. These took place in private chatrooms.

5. I had several 1 on 1 interactions with gh15 where he seemed like 2 people. One interested in technicals, the other in building community. I formed an opinion that I was dealing with Alex23 and Nasser based on current events and the above information.

6. Nasser left the account before his death. gh15 took a very different tone with me. Forgot a lot of conversations, tried to cover it up in private PM's but it was flagrant.

There were other people I thought could be gh15, but the confluence of events at the exact time of building ripped.com was overwhelmingly pointing to my theory. It wasn't for a few years that I really saw it very clearly, but that's what it is.

FWIW Nasser sold that account, and the MOST interesting things are what happened AFTER he did.
Title: Re: GH15 - Pocket Bible
Post by: a_pupil on July 19, 2018, 09:01:22 AM
I remember there was a "bible index" on slin use which was announced at the start of his forum/end of getbig era which was quietly brushed under the carpet due to some silly excuse.

to me it was clear as day the juice advice early in the account was from a 90s era pro. there was clear emphasis on hg gear and dbol etc. in there day they even had parabolan.

later he seemed like he was shilling for ug labs. even randomly discovering the greatness of superdrol lol.
Title: Re: GH15 - Pocket Bible
Post by: pellius on July 19, 2018, 02:55:56 PM
Hello Pellius,

A few things of note.

1. Nasser was estranged from his family, nearly disowned. It's conceivable he was a heretic to his religion.
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But it is very unlikely, and no evidence to support, that he became sympathetic to Israel and so attached and devoted to the Jewish people and their religion. He was very, very well read in regard to the Torah and celebrated Jewish traditions and holidays.

2. Alex23 and Nasser were friends, plenty of photo evidence to support.
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Yes, you are correct. I thought I made this point in my post. Which is why it would be strange that gh15 (if he was Nasser) would contact me while he was still on this board wondering and bitching about how Alex weaseled his way into Nasser's life. gh15 hated Alex with a passion. He even thought that bigmc was an Alex gimmick.

3. Alex23 is extremely computer savvy, especially with security.
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Agreed. I mentioned in my post that I considered him very intelligent.

4. I was present for the building of the forum, which utilized some (at the time) smart security measures. These took place in private chatrooms.
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Yes, I am aware of that. But I don't see how that has anything to do with whether gh15
is Nasser or not.

5. I had several 1 on 1 interactions with gh15 where he seemed like 2 people. One interested in technicals, the other in building community. I formed an opinion that I was dealing with Alex23 and Nasser based on current events and the above information.
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I can't dispute what certain interactions seemed like to anybody. I believe that "mightyone" from Outlaw and Anabolicboard was gh15 by his speech and praising the Kigs. And the fact that he disappeared after gh15 started his own board. But, again, I don't see the connection that would make one conclude it was Nasser. BTW, I use to be pretty chummy with Alex and we communicated a lot via PM. I never got the impression when dealing with gh15 that I was talking to Alex23. But, this also proves nothing as it's feelings based.

6. Nasser left the account before his death. gh15 took a very different tone with me. Forgot a lot of conversations, tried to cover it up in private PM's but it was flagrant.
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I believe you. I tried to give specific examples with my interaction with gh15 as reasons for my opinions. If you have specific examples that may help one determine the veracity or likelihood of your conclusions that would help. I have never denied the "different tone" gh15 has taken over the years. Everybody here today is not quite the same person as they were 10 years ago. My own postings today compared to 10 years ago reflect that as well.
 

There were other people I thought could be gh15, but the confluence of events at the exact time of building ripped.com was overwhelmingly pointing to my theory. It wasn't for a few years that I really saw it very clearly, but that's what it is.

FWIW Nasser sold that account, and the MOST interesting things are what happened AFTER he did.

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Of course. Everyone has their theories. Only recently there was a thread on another board insisting, and providing evidence, that gh15 was strango. I just present my biased opinion, make my argument, and leave it to others to decide.

What makes you think with such certainty that Nasser sold the gh15 account? I've heard this said about other accounts as well. Why would some want to buy another person's account? gh15 kicked off more sponsors off his site than he took in and even then it was only a handful. If he was interested in just money I would have thought the board would be more like ProfessionalMuscle with pages of sponsors. One thing that gh15 could do is sell. Any source he pushed on that board would do well. He made strango a millionaire. Also, you knew strango and communicated with him on his VIP account like I did and was there any reasons for you to believe he was giving gh15 a percentage of his sales. I'm sure he was getting some free gear but I don't think it was a formal part of the agreement. And I don't think gh15 would try to shake down his suppliers like Lean did.
Title: Re: GH15 - Pocket Bible
Post by: pellius on July 19, 2018, 03:17:03 PM
I remember there was a "bible index" on slin use which was announced at the start of his forum/end of getbig era which was quietly brushed under the carpet due to some silly excuse.

to me it was clear as day the juice advice early in the account was from a 90s era pro. there was clear emphasis on hg gear and dbol etc. in there day they even had parabolan.

later he seemed like he was shilling for ug labs. even randomly discovering the greatness of superdrol lol.

That's a good observation about the 90s era mind set and emphasis on HGH gear. UG labs were just taking off and it was the Wild West back then. Over time people got savvier. People were more open about calling out suppliers. Gear was being tested. The serum test was a huge game changer in the HGH market. UG labs have gotten a lot better and gone are the days of the 1990s when it was the guy in the gym who would walk you out to the trunk of his car or take you out back with his huge gym bag.

If gh15 like a product or a source he would shill for it. If I came across a good source or thought I had a good or bad product I would let everyone know. During my mod days, I thought gh15 threw Omega under the bus and I defended Omega. Then when I felt Omega started going bad I let that be known as well.

Still, this says nothing about gh15 identity let alone him being Nasser.

As an aside, I would love for gh15 to be Nasser. To know that we had one of the greatest bbers of all time on this board giving advice for so many years would give new meaning to his words and also give us some real insight into what kind of person Nasser was. I wish that "girl" gh15 mentioned long ago that recommended this board to gh15 would come out of the shadows and shed light on all of this.
Apparently, she gave her word that she would never reveal who gh15 is and keeps her word because of her close relationship with him. I think she would only come forward if he should die before she does.

But I believe he's still alive and still lives on. Not the force and influence he used to be, but still out there.

Title: Re: GH15 - Pocket Bible
Post by: Rearden Metal on July 20, 2018, 04:38:43 AM
@ Pel

Nasser was known to be extremely two faced to his friends, later recounting episodes with them (from a time while friends) in a horrible light. Why don't you believe that gh15 railing on Alex could be this exact character trait?
Title: Re: GH15 - Pocket Bible
Post by: chaos on July 20, 2018, 06:31:00 PM
When people claim that Nasser was gh15 it seems based more on a gut feeling. I've never read a cogent argument backed by some evidence to support this claim. People also think Dennis James is gh15 because he lived in Germany and loves sushi. So no one can know for sure who gh15 is but does have a lot of inside knowledge of professional bbing.

Anyway, I wrote my reasons, my opinion, some years ago when asked why I don't think it was Nasser. Again, just my opinion, but it comes from some real-world evidence and experience with gh15.

I suggest Calvinh pass on this one.

I've only managed to skim through this thread but I wanted to address an issue that I am asked about so often and comes up frequently and want to put to rest: Was Nasser gh15?

Most people who believe that gh15 was Nasser do so mostly out of a gut feeling. As for me, and this is just my opinion, it's not based on a gut feeling but from my experience with gh15.

I read gh15's very first post on GetBig the day he made it. He came to that board initially to comment on the Craig Titus/Kelly Ryan murder case. Both whom he always referred to as "the murderer and his ugly wife." He did this not only to be funny. There was a specific reason, a religious-based one, that will become apparent later.

And as a mod on his board, I've known and communicated with gh15 for a very, very long time since day one of his appearances and have read every single one of his tens and thousands of posts.

I don't believe he was Nasser and here's why.

First off, I wish it was Nasser if only to shut up the people that think gh15 was an idiot. gh15 is a very smart and well-informed individual. And if anybody knew Nasser it would not be a stretch to say that he was the most intelligent bodybuilder that ever lived. The guy was a genius.

On GetBig there was a group of rabid Nasser fans that called themselves "Team Nasser" led by Sherief Shalaby and Big Bobs (who use to post here as well). Both Sherief and Bobs were actually friends in real life with Nasser and got together socially. Sherief was with him at a gym in Egypt the day before Nasser died.

Now, gh15 absolutely hated and despise this one guy on the GetBig board named Alex, also known as "FatAlex" by his detractors and "The King" by his fans. I never had a problem with Alex and he just seemed like a guy who just liked to have fun but many took it the wrong way. I considered Alex an exceptionally intelligent guy.

Then pictures and posts started surfacing which showed Alex, Bobs and Nasser hanging out. Having lunch, going to Nasser's house, goofing around. I'm not sure what part of Cali that Bobs lived but Alex was more Northern Ca and, or course, Nasser was in San Diego.

Now gh15 made no secret of being a big fan of "the beautiful man with glasses" as he always referred to Nasser so it infuriated him to see "FatAlex" chumming around with Nasser. He contacted me (this is when he was still on GetBig), as he knew I was a big fan of Team Nasser and always defended them since they were bashed continuously on the GetBig board. He wanted to know how the hell Alex got into Nasser's inner circle. I contacted Bobs and Sherief and Bob told me that, purely by coincidence, Alex was dating his (Bob's) sister. Bob and Alex didn't know each other personally and Bob didn't know that the Alex dating his sister was also the same Alex from GetBig. Alex would eventually marry Bob's sister so they became brother-in-laws. Small world.

So it seems unlikely that Nasser would contact me to inquire why Alex was hanging around with him.

But, you say, Nasser sold the gh15 to someone else who went and started the gh15 board. Well, anything is possible I guess. But when rumors started circulating about Nasser's death again gh15 contacted to me to get in touch with Sherief, as gh15 knew Sherief lived in Egypt and would meet with Nasser at some point. He wanted me to confirm that Nasser's death wasn't a rumor before he made an announcement and commentary on his passing on his board.

Again it would seem unlikely that someone who had business dealings with Nasser wouldn't have his own contacts to confirm Nasser's passing.

Another fact, one that is most overlooked by seemingly everybody and one of the most important aspects that bonded me to gh15 was that gh15 was an unapologetic Zionist. There is no one in bodybuilding that is more outspoken in support of Israel existing as an independent State and the support of the Jewish people as gh15. No one was more knowledgeable about Jewish history, Jewish leaders past and present, and the traditions and practices of Judaism. Was gh15 a Jew or a practicing Jew? I don't know for sure. But neither am I and I share his passion for the Jewish people. In Christianity Jews are special people. They are the Chosen Ones though many misunderstand what that means.

Remember Ron Goldman, the father of the son the O.J murdered? Remember he never referred to O.J. as "O.J."? He always referred to him as "the murderer". That is a Jewish practice, though somewhat recent. If you notice when reading something written by an observant Jew (The Jewish World Review) that they never write the name "God" it's always "G_d". For a Jew, when referring to God they use the name in a different context. In Ex. 3:13-22: When Moses asks God what His "name" is. Moses is not asking "what should I call you;" rather, he is asking "who are you; what are you like; what have you done?"

So it's kind of a play on that that many Jews use in certain special circumstance. O.J. is simply "the murderer". Craig and Kelly are simply "the murdered and his ugly wife." Nasser, is "the beautiful man with glasses."

Why does it matter that gh15 is either a Jew and/or an unabashed supporter of Jews?
Because Nasser was a Muslim. Now it can be argued that he wasn't a true Muslim as he didn't follow their practices to the letter, if at all, during most of his adult life. But both his parents were Muslims, he was raised a Muslim, and the Muslims claimed him as their own. It has been confirmed that later in life Nasser attended Jumuah and professed shahadah. As happens to so many of us when we get older our perspective on life changes and perhaps Nasser was getting back to his old religious upbringing. God takes on a greater significance as you get older and the prospect of death takes a more urgent tone.

And though there was some real questions regarding the cause of death, no autopsy was done as it is a Muslim tradition that the deceased be buried ASAP (in Nasser's case, the very next day), and Nasser was buried with a Muslim ceremony.

I don't think I need to explain the incongruity of a Muslim preaching Zionism and celebrating Jewish holidays and traditions since day one. Since his very first arrival on GetBig.

Again, this is just my opinion but it is based on real evidence and my long experience with gh15. Take it for what it's worth. Again, just my opinion.
There is so much wrong with this story I don't even know where to start...…...
Title: Re: GH15 - Pocket Bible
Post by: tres_taco_combo on July 20, 2018, 09:49:46 PM

then he was educated, but made no use of his degrees and instead posted photos of himself pumping gas and working the cash register at an auto repair shop
finally he lives mostly of his life in America but dies in Egypt, supposedly a devout muslim
there's nothing clear about this guy, he's as easy to read as an engineering blueprint written in Aramaic.

Post those photos if you can find them

he died back in the old country

he should have won the 1997 mr O
Title: Re: GH15 - Pocket Bible
Post by: pellius on July 20, 2018, 11:08:25 PM
There is so much wrong with this story I don't even know where to start...…...

How about from the beginning. Name one. Just one thing you think is wrong and your reasons for it.
Title: Re: GH15 - Pocket Bible
Post by: pellius on July 20, 2018, 11:26:11 PM
@ Pel

Nasser was known to be extremely two faced to his friends, later recounting episodes with them (from a time while friends) in a horrible light. Why don't you believe that gh15 railing on Alex could be this exact character trait?

Hmm, the way the question is posed it makes it seem like that is the default position. That I am supposed to believe gh15 is "railing" on Alex because he's two-faced and why don't I believe it? A more fair question is WHY should I believe it in the first place. I don't take it as gospel various rumors about how Nasser was in his personal life. Some people loved him some hated him. Everybody was at one point friends with someone and then turned against them. Are you two-faced? Am I two-faced because we both stopped drinking the gh15 kool-aid? Anybody can find posts by both of us where we praise gh15 and then, on the other hand (or face), bad mouth him. Why would Nasser care one way or the other what I thought about Alex? If Alex was posing as Nasser or Nasser as Alex why would either of them ask me, while gh15 was still on this board, how Alex go to be so chummy with Nasser? And the only time Alex would come up while I was a mod of the gh15 was in the context of bigmc. Bigmc really had it in for gh15 and gh15, as you know, hated him. He so wanted to get something on him to hurt him and discredit him. He always insisted that bigmc was Alex. Why would he do that? Was he in with Alex or not? And why would gh15 care what I thought of Alex that would cause him to be two-faced? What if he did convince me that bigmc was really an Alex gimmick? Then what? What would it matter and how would it change anything? Recall, he "promoted" me to Jedi for that back and forth I had with bigmc regarding gh15's involvement with the kigtropin catastrophe and he felt I made a good case against bigmc's allegations.
Title: Re: GH15 - Pocket Bible
Post by: Rearden Metal on July 21, 2018, 02:56:04 PM
why? gh15 in all incarnations has been hugely manipulative. And you, pellius, for all of your intellect, have been used many times by gh15.
Title: Re: GH15 - Pocket Bible
Post by: chaos on July 21, 2018, 03:02:43 PM
How about from the beginning. Name one. Just one thing you think is wrong and your reasons for it.
Alex wasn't married to Bob sister, so the entire Alex/Bobs part of your story is wrong. Alex lived in central CA at one point but was living in San Diego when he met with Nasser. Alex's brother in law was flexingtonsteele.
Title: Re: GH15 - Pocket Bible
Post by: illuminati on July 21, 2018, 03:11:18 PM
why? gh15 in all incarnations has been hugely manipulative. And you, pellius, for all of your intellect, have been used many times by gh15.

Beyond me & many others that anyone with any smarts & creditably
Would stand up & defend the scamming lying twat gh15 in any of the
Incarnations.
I would think it’s easier for them to continue the charade than admit
They were taken for fools.

Nothing ground breaking in the least about anything he’s ever said
All the info was already out there.
He just repeated it parrot fashion.

I’ll give him / them it was a great character/ gimmick to hood wink
And fool idiots out of their $’s
Title: Re: GH15 - Pocket Bible
Post by: pellius on July 21, 2018, 04:04:28 PM
why? gh15 in all incarnations has been hugely manipulative. And you, pellius, for all of your intellect, have been used many times by gh15.

Of course, I use to be very pro gh15 and defended against any lies that I thought were told and written about him. People think I'm defending him now even though I'm just making a case that I don't think he was Nasser or that I still think it's the same gh15 now. That's not defending him. That's just what I believe independent of what gh15 thinks himself.

So in my gh15 days, I did things out of my own free will. I never felt used or manipulated because I was never ordered, and obeyed, to do things I didn't want to do. gh15 did manipulate a lot of people and there were spies everywhere (oh brother). You and I were the biggest troublemakers on the Mod board because we were the only two that spoke out and one of the reasons why you were the only one I trusted.
Title: Re: GH15 - Pocket Bible
Post by: pellius on July 21, 2018, 04:14:58 PM
Alex wasn't married to Bob sister, so the entire Alex/Bobs part of your story is wrong. Alex lived in central CA at one point but was living in San Diego when he met with Nasser. Alex's brother in law was flexingtonsteele.

OK, you are quite right about that. I am wrong and confused Bob with Flexingtonsteele and I'll also concede the point regarding where Alex was living though that really is inconsequential.

That's what I like to hear. If I have something wrong and there's credible evidence then I want to know about it. I'm interested in the truth and not just winning an argument.

Still, it would seem odd that gh15 would ask me about Alex hanging around with Nasser if gh15 was Nasser himself.

The main reason I don't think it was Nasser was that no way Nasser was Jewish or sympathetic to the Jewish people. Even if he wasn't a practicing Muslim his whole life, though he was in his later years after he retired which was during the gh15 era.

If someone could explain that, without grasping at straws, I would love to hear it.

Title: Re: GH15 - Pocket Bible
Post by: OneMoreRep on July 21, 2018, 04:23:33 PM
During its inception, the gh15 account was a shared account. I am pretty certain (just about 100%) that Alex was an active member using the gh15 account.

We verified IP addresses during gh15's heyday here at GetBig and that much was found to be true. There was also a few screencaps that showcased a secret conversation involving the gh15 account and the login details and Alex was a very active participant.

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Title: Re: GH15 - Pocket Bible
Post by: pellius on July 21, 2018, 04:50:40 PM
During its inception, the gh15 account was a shared account. I am pretty certain (just about 100%) that Alex was an active member using the gh15 account.

We verified IP addresses during gh15's heyday here at GetBig and that much was found to be true. There was also a few screencaps that showcased a secret conversation involving the gh15 account and the login details and Alex was a very active participant.

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I believe that Alex has hacked into the gh15 account but how does this point to Nasser being gh15?
Title: Re: GH15 - Pocket Bible
Post by: OneMoreRep on July 21, 2018, 04:59:08 PM
I believe that Alex has hacked into the gh15 account but how does this point to Nasser being gh15?

I can't speak on behalf of any Nasser involvement, because that I don't know. What I do know is that during the time of gh15's heyday here, before he went on to create his site, Alex was very much involved and active on that account on a daily basis. He would even joke about it with others, say he was about to post a phrase/keyword and moments later do so.

Again, it's not the craziest thing we've seen around here. We've had IFBB pros use this site under gimmicks to post all sorts of nonsense as well over the years.

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Title: Re: GH15 - Pocket Bible
Post by: pellius on July 21, 2018, 05:13:22 PM
I can't speak on behalf of any Nasser involvement, because that I don't know. What I do know is that during the time of gh15's heyday here, before he went on to create his site, Alex was very much involved and active on that account on a daily basis. He would even joke about it with others, say he was about to post a phrase/keyword and moments later do so.

Again, it's not the craziest thing we've seen around here. We've had IFBB pros use this site under gimmicks to post all sorts of nonsense as well over the years.

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You have more access than I have and I consider you an honest, decent and honorable man so I don't doubt you. Still, even if Alex was involved in the account he was not gh15. No way Alex had the knowledge of bbing, hormones, and the behind the scenes going ons in pro bbing that gh15 had.

What put gh15 on the map was his knowledge and openness regarding the real truth about modern pro bbing. 
Title: Re: GH15 - Pocket Bible
Post by: OneMoreRep on July 21, 2018, 05:26:25 PM
You have more access than I have and I consider you an honest, decent and honorable man so I don't doubt you. Still, even if Alex was involved in the account he was not gh15. No way Alex had the knowledge of bbing, hormones, and the behind the scenes going ons in pro bbing that gh15 had.

What put gh15 on the map was his knowledge and openness regarding the real truth about modern pro bbing. 

If you all wanted to know who exactly was behind it, just ask Ron. He knows who the user(s) were.

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Title: Re: GH15 - Pocket Bible
Post by: Kwon3 on July 21, 2018, 05:32:11 PM
You have more access than I have and I consider you an honest, decent and honorable man so I don't doubt you. Still, even if Alex was involved in the account he was not gh15. No way Alex had the knowledge of bbing, hormones, and the behind the scenes going ons in pro bbing that gh15 had.

What put gh15 on the map was his knowledge and openness regarding the real truth about modern pro bbing.  
If uncle_junior can type the same way as gh_15 and sign off as the lion of judah, so can anyone. Nobody knows who he really was after he left getbig, a few solid points (across sequential posts) made by OMR to the point of exhaustion in that massive thread about GH that's buried in the back on here. In fact, this is the most readable and probably accurate quote string he made on the topic of that account, and I'd like to insert it here:

Van,

Those 4 guys created the account on this site. That information is known by most of the moderators.

Prior to the creation of the gh15 account, those 4 guys advertised the fact that they were creating the account down in the alphabet boards.

Once the account was created, they shared among each other and would make randomized posts about various topics in drug use and bodybuilding.

Towards the end, they started to have internal problems and people would get locked out as you mentioned (Ed and Block did do that to Alex). Nonetheless, Alex's style of writing was pretty transparent through many of their posts.

As per Ed and Block making those posts, both Blockhead and Special Ed are very talented when it comes to bringing in the funny and useful information. Block knows A LOT about hormones and their various uses within bodybuilding. Special Ed had been a manager for a few wrestlers in his day and knew a lot about the "sport" of bodybuilding, enough to justify much of the information that was being posted.

Remember, these were the guys (Ed, Block and Alex) behind the massive owning of Dave Mirza (Squadfather). They managed to get Squadfather to foolishly call into their (Block & Ed's) radio show. Mirza was dumb enough to not block his phone number (always *67 that bitch). They then passed along the number to Alex23, who did all the recon needed and gathered excessive information about Dave Mirza. Upon developing the perfect OWNING of the Squadfather, they then spoon fed the information to Derek Anthony, who delivered the owning, regardless of the fact that all he did was copy and paste the information sent to him onto the forum.

If these guys pulled such a great owning in the past, you think they aren't capable of pulling the wool over the eyes of GetBig members for a few years, long enough to graduate their gimmick into creating its own site?

Either way, you are free to reach your own conclusions of course, but that's just what it is based on this site's history.

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Logs from prior posts show direct correlation

The 4 prior users of that account told a small group of members here (openly written on the forum) that they were going to create this fake gimmick account (gh15).

Screen caps of said events were taken and even the damn password was being flung around to various members.

IP addresses were matched to the same people.

The fact that those 4 guys were behind the creation of the account is 100% true and has been proven ad nauseum.

Whether or not Alex then sold the account to anyone else prior to gh15 leaving GetBig is another story.

My instincts tell me that Alex possibly rode that wave up to the point of Nasser's death.

They had a good run with the gh15 account and probably made a little money from it, but upon Nasser's passing, the sources started to go dry and operations weren't the same. Even the fucking language seemed lame and all the their master spoke about was GetBig, not to mention its death (ironic).

Then noticing that his members kept disappearing, many like JohnnyNoName just found better sources elsewhere, he figured it's probably best to close shop and blame it on some big time hackers shutting him down.

Lo and behold, the gh15 site is down for a few weeks and from about the same time that site started to disappear, Alex23 reappears onto GetBig, bringing along his sermon of GodSpeed with him.

Is this a possibility? Sure. It could also be completely different, but my instincts tell me that's probably what happened.

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What we can prove on this end is that those 4 guys were behind the creation of that account and used it for quite some time, before they slowly started to break off from it one by one.

What happened after that account stopped posting on this site and upon creating his own forum can be a completely different story. In other words, if any of those 4 guys, prior to leaving this site, decided to sell the moniker to another entity all together, there is no way we would know here.

Either way, in this house, that gimmick has no power.

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What crack are you smoking, because you seriously have no clue what you're talking about?

First off, Dante (Doggcrap) never had access to anyone's IP from this site. I know, I am a moderator on this site and I speak to Ron (You know the owner of this site) very often and he has never given up anyone's IP address to Dante for his personal use. That is not his style. If you chose to believe Dante about that bullshit, feel free, no sweat off my back.

We the moderators (Grant, Princess L, Butterbean, Chaos, Mindspin etc.) have all seen the proof of this bullshit. Some of us still have screen caps and links to the material that I have already mentioned before.

In the past, there was a group of users here:

david paul
blockhead
special ed
ss - superstar billy gram
alex 23

...that used to have regular msn chat room meetings and they would troll the board as a team. A few buddies of mine from the past even helped them out a few times with material (their names will not be revealed).

This is where they came up with gh15 gimmick just to have a shared account. Gh15 wasn't really that active until around 2007 and they did have internal conflicts, as evidenced by how they all turned on alex after his "buff goddess/rough boddess" fiasco, where david paul (under gimmicks) et al. "outed" alex (saying he paid her for sex, flew her out to vegas for the olympia, etc), thereby turning on one of his own.  Whoever had the gh15 password at the time stuck with the gimmick.

Like I said, evidence to this nonsense has been shown to us moderators time and time again by way of screen caps, IP matching to those users, log chats that implicate each one of these guys because over time slip-ups occur and the fact that there is an omnipresent being on this very forum that knows exactly who gh15 was from the very beginning. Some of you recently have offered Ron software that matches IP addresses to users and even logs this information. What you don't know is that Ron has already had this "type" of software for over 10 years. FLAMER uses it to help Ron flush out the gimmicks, criminals and pedophiles that we often times get on this site.

We moderators here can only tell you what we witnessed during the time that gimmick15 was on this site. Upon his/their departure, whether or not that account was sold to someone else is always a possibility.

Ultimately, you folks will believe what you want to believe and that is your prerogative. I do not care about gh15's bullshit. I was here way before his ass was ever created down in the alphabet boards and here I am still way after his ship has sunk. I even served him my personal information on a fucking platter and the man couldn't deliver on his threats. You know what that's called? It's being a liar (said you would do one thing and didn't), a coward (can't face me or anyone else who he threatened face-to-face) and a fraud.

Like I said, in this house he/they have no power. All his bullshit will get deleted. All his propaganda will get flushed down the toilet. His name will be spat on by the many masses. His legacy will simply be that of a coward.

This is GetBig gentlemen and we don't take well to cowards and thieves.

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Title: Re: GH15 - Pocket Bible
Post by: Kwon3 on July 21, 2018, 05:33:45 PM
You'll notice Pel was the lone defender in that other thread as well. No beef with that; I'd have given a lot to have someone as loyal to me as he has been to gh15. I would posit they're acquainted in real life, or at least spoke online and on the phone enough to establish a lasting friendship, because this has gone far beyond mere appreciation for the guy's drug knowledge. Lots of people respected that about him but didn't agree with how he ran his site or necessarily liked him personally.
Title: Re: GH15 - Pocket Bible
Post by: OneMoreRep on July 21, 2018, 05:48:08 PM
If uncle_junior can type the same way as gh_15 and sign off as the lion of judah, so can anyone. Nobody knows who he really was after he left getbig, a few solid points (across sequential posts) made by OMR to the point of exhaustion in that massive thread about GH that's buried in the back on here. In fact, this is the most readable and probably accurate quote string he made on the topic of that account, and I'd like to insert it here:


Thank you for pulling that up, because for the life of me, I had forgotten about all of that shit.

That's all true, just as I mentioned in the past. Damn, to think that was posted 4 years ago, fuck how time flies.

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Title: Re: GH15 - Pocket Bible
Post by: pellius on July 21, 2018, 08:24:36 PM
You'll notice Pel was the lone defender in that other thread as well. No beef with that; I'd have given a lot to have someone as loyal to me as he has been to gh15. I would posit they're acquainted in real life, or at least spoke online and on the phone enough to establish a lasting friendship, because this has gone far beyond mere appreciation for the guy's drug knowledge. Lots of people respected that about him but didn't agree with how he ran his site or necessarily liked him personally.

Considering I sided with Valiant/AgentYes and was deemed a traitor and banned from the gh15 board I wouldn't exactly say I was loyal to gh15. I am loyal to the truth. I have only communicated with gh15 online. I had a lot in common with gh15 and developed a bond that had nothing to do with bbing. We had so much in common regarding political and cultural issues. His unabashed defense of Israel and the Jewish people. We obviously come from the same era and admired the same people as diverse as Ronald Reagan to Michael Jackson. Same favorite movies like The God Father. Same contempt for the whore Brittany Spears era. Even his love for dogs. I always would remark how I think dogs are uniquely special. No other animal shares the same historic bond between a man and his dog and that a dog was God's way of proving that there is such a thing as pure conditional love.

So I have always had a soft spot for him. I just feel he let things get to his head and started to become a controlling tyrant. It was the whole "Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely." He did a lot to open the eyes and educate people about the whole industry from training, hormones, supplements, the lying and back stabbing....
Title: Re: GH15 - Pocket Bible
Post by: pellius on July 21, 2018, 08:31:55 PM
If you all wanted to know who exactly was behind it, just ask Ron. He knows who the user(s) were.

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I don't get this. I always hear this. If you, Ron, or anybody knows who the user is why not just say so and just put this whole matter to rest forever.

Forever.

Here, I'll do it. Say Ron, who were the users of the gh15 account?

There. I asked. Do we end it here now or just drag this on forever as these same threads come up every few months or so.

I remember Ron once posted that he just happened to be with Dennis James at the same time gh15 was posting disputing the claim that gh15 was D.J. It sounded like he didn't know who it was either but that it wasn't Dennis James.
Title: Re: GH15 - Pocket Bible
Post by: SF1900 on July 21, 2018, 08:42:39 PM
Imagine if GH15 turned out to be Vince Goorum!!! That would be epic!!!
Title: Re: GH15 - Pocket Bible
Post by: tres_taco_combo on July 21, 2018, 09:15:55 PM
best the pieces of gh15 advice??

i could give a fuck who is...how can i get more swole
Title: Re: GH15 - Pocket Bible
Post by: pellius on July 21, 2018, 09:21:40 PM
best the pieces of gh15 advice??

i could give a fuck who is...how can i get more swole

Trenbolona, Testosterona, hgh, orals in and out.

And if possible, legit kigtropina.
Title: Re: GH15 - Pocket Bible
Post by: tres_taco_combo on July 21, 2018, 09:25:42 PM
Trenbolona, Testosterona, hgh, orals in and out.

And if possible, legit kigtropina.

that is what i took from it
1000mg test and 700mg tren a week - say an prayer and you all set lol
Title: Re: GH15 - Pocket Bible
Post by: illuminati on July 22, 2018, 12:22:31 AM
Jeez some just want to believe in a single person as gh15
When “one more rep” has clearly identified the 4 who started
The account.
DavidPaul
Special ed
Blochead
Alex23

Quote from: OneMoreRep on 08-01-2014, 20:42:58
Same thing I thought...

For those still in the closet:

Special Ed + Blockhead + DavidPaul + Alex23 = gh15..... back about 8 years ago (They created the gimmick, we have log files on this shit from way back).


For those who want to carry on believing it’s was 1 person & a pro bodybuilder  ::)  ::)  ::)
I’ve got more news for you
The worlds not Flat
There is No Santa
The Moon’s Not Made of Cheese
Nibiru isnt about to hit earth
There are No Mermaids

Man the Fuck up & just admit you were taken for a ride / duped / Made fools of /
Not as Clever as you thought you were.
It Happens - Deal with it.
Title: Re: GH15 - Pocket Bible
Post by: xpac2 on July 22, 2018, 06:16:40 AM
GH15 was never Nassar. Was just a gimmick account that picked up steam as people bought into it, if you look at his first post compared to later posts you could see how it evolved.From perfect english at the beginning as a regular commenter to the fake accent getting worse and worse as the gimmick evolved As generations have passed on this board the legend grew. But it was just a gimmick account.

I too miss peak Getbig with the squad wars
Title: Re: GH15 - Pocket Bible
Post by: chaos on July 22, 2018, 08:15:39 AM
If you all wanted to know who exactly was behind it, just ask Ron. He knows who the user(s) were.

"1"
I have personally duct taped Ron to a chair and force fed him orange chicken until he grew feathers and he refused to tell. Good luck.
Title: Re: GH15 - Pocket Bible
Post by: Kwon3 on July 22, 2018, 12:47:24 PM
I have personally duct taped Ron to a chair and force fed him orange chicken until he grew feathers and he refused to tell. Good luck.
That must've taken you all day considering how fat he is. The guy can EAT.
Title: Re: GH15 - Pocket Bible
Post by: pellius on July 22, 2018, 03:33:33 PM
BTW, if Special Ed and Block were part of gh15 how were they able to maintain the gh15 account, which gh15 seem to on and posting all the time, and also run their own board? And why, if they were gh15, at a time when I was one of gh15 biggest allies, ban me from their board?
Title: Re: GH15 - Pocket Bible
Post by: Kwon3 on July 22, 2018, 04:46:02 PM
BTW, if Special Ed and Block were part of gh15 how were they able to maintain the gh15 account, which gh15 seem to on and posting all the time, and also run their own board? And why, if they were gh15, at a time when I was one of gh15 biggest allies, ban me from their board?
I think you're referring to gh15 after the board went up vs. during the period OMR is referring to. I don't think their site was up at the time they were on his account, that was after. No one knows who that is, to this day, or if they do, they've never said. gh15 was also never banned from here despite banning people on his own site. But yeah, you know him better than us so I won't comment on what happened other than what I've read here and what I remember.
Title: Re: GH15 - Pocket Bible
Post by: a_pupil on July 23, 2018, 02:03:00 AM
Pellius, do you realise how weird it is that someone your age got so attached to an internet character?
Title: Re: GH15 - Pocket Bible
Post by: pellius on July 23, 2018, 04:23:03 AM
Pellius, do you realise how weird it is that someone your age got so attached to an internet character?

No. What's weird is that so many people like you claim they don't care about gh15 but can never ignore a thread or post or anything having to do with gh15. That's why he was banned. Because of the fascination he inspires. If nobody cared there would be no reason to ban him. He would just be ignored.
But people like you can't help themselves. So instead of letting the board decide, with their votes, what they find interesting, the mods had to ban him because they cannot stand the attention he still commands.

gh15 still fascinates long after his heyday as evidence by the number of views and posts in any thread that has him as a subject.

That's why you are here and will continue to be here until this thread dies and you will return again when another one is resurrected.

Weird.



.
Title: Re: GH15 - Pocket Bible
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on July 23, 2018, 06:14:15 AM
Jeez some just want to believe in a single person as gh15
When “one more rep” has clearly identified the 4 who started
The account.
DavidPaul
Special ed
Blochead
Alex23

Quote from: OneMoreRep on 08-01-2014, 20:42:58
Same thing I thought...

For those still in the closet:

Special Ed + Blockhead + DavidPaul + Alex23 = gh15..... back about 8 years ago (They created the gimmick, we have log files on this shit from way back).


For those who want to carry on believing it’s was 1 person & a pro bodybuilder  ::)  ::)  ::)
I’ve got more news for you
The worlds not Flat
There is No Santa
The Moon’s Not Made of Cheese
Nibiru isnt about to hit earth
There are No Mermaids

Man the Fuck up & just admit you were taken for a ride / duped / Made fools of /
Not as Clever as you thought you were.
It Happens - Deal with it.

Dozens of people claim to know who he is and yet nobody has ever posted any kind of proof.  Let's see these alleged "log files"
 
Title: Re: GH15 - Pocket Bible
Post by: illuminati on July 23, 2018, 01:37:32 PM
Dozens of people claim to know who he is and yet nobody has ever posted any kind of proof.  Let's see these alleged "log files"
 

Personally I don’t know or care.
Clearly it was a shared account
Who it is now or even a few yrs ago who cares
The account has clearly changed hands a few times
As the writing styles show.

It was a fairly good hoax no doubt as shown by the many
Who were conned out of $ some more than once  ::)
And clearly there are those who still want to believe it was or even
Still is a Pro Top 5 Mr O.... ::)

Let them believe what they want.
I’m sure sure gh15 in all his incarnations
Appreciates there $ & heroe worship.
Title: Re: GH15 - Pocket Bible
Post by: Rearden Metal on July 26, 2018, 07:13:35 AM
I believe that Alex has hacked into the gh15 account but how does this point to Nasser being gh15?

This all supports my theory. It's extremely interesting circumstance if he indeed hacked the account whilst clowning about with Nasser.
Title: Re: GH15 - Pocket Bible
Post by: Rearden Metal on July 26, 2018, 07:15:21 AM
If you all wanted to know who exactly was behind it, just ask Ron. He knows who the user(s) were.

"1"

I only have IP grabs from the NEW gh15, neither are Alex, neither are Nasser (obv). One is in Maine, one in FL. There is an extremely interesting link between the Maine account and a supernatural forum (I have the name of the forum somewhere) with cross posts to gh15.
Title: Re: GH15 - Pocket Bible
Post by: Rearden Metal on July 26, 2018, 07:16:54 AM
I don't get this. I always hear this. If you, Ron, or anybody knows who the user is why not just say so and just put this whole matter to rest forever.

Forever.

Here, I'll do it. Say Ron, who were the users of the gh15 account?

There. I asked. Do we end it here now or just drag this on forever as these same threads come up every few months or so.

I remember Ron once posted that he just happened to be with Dennis James at the same time gh15 was posting disputing the claim that gh15 was D.J. It sounded like he didn't know who it was either but that it wasn't Dennis James.

gh15 used a VPN, I actually got his IP when he was unmasked during private chat logs.
Title: Re: GH15 - Pocket Bible
Post by: Rearden Metal on July 26, 2018, 07:18:24 AM
Jeez some just want to believe in a single person as gh15
When “one more rep” has clearly identified the 4 who started
The account.
DavidPaul
Special ed
Blochead
Alex23

Quote from: OneMoreRep on 08-01-2014, 20:42:58
Same thing I thought...

For those still in the closet:

Special Ed + Blockhead + DavidPaul + Alex23 = gh15..... back about 8 years ago (They created the gimmick, we have log files on this shit from way back).


For those who want to carry on believing it’s was 1 person & a pro bodybuilder  ::)  ::)  ::)
I’ve got more news for you
The worlds not Flat
There is No Santa
The Moon’s Not Made of Cheese
Nibiru isnt about to hit earth
There are No Mermaids

Man the Fuck up & just admit you were taken for a ride / duped / Made fools of /
Not as Clever as you thought you were.
It Happens - Deal with it.

This is false, sorry.
Title: Re: GH15 - Pocket Bible
Post by: illuminati on July 26, 2018, 12:36:00 PM
This is false, sorry.

Are you saying the information from  "One more rep" is Wrong / incorrect ??
As He Stated they had evidence it was those 4 who were behind the original account

Again I couldn't care less who was or is behind it...
Its just so humours with all those that did & still do worship / think gh15 was something Special.  ::)

If you know then share it for those poor (fools) I mean souls.
Title: Re: GH15 - Pocket Bible
Post by: Rearden Metal on July 27, 2018, 07:26:49 AM
Are you saying the information from  "One more rep" is Wrong / incorrect ??
As He Stated they had evidence it was those 4 who were behind the original account

Again I couldn't care less who was or is behind it...
Its just so humours with all those that did & still do worship / think gh15 was something Special.  ::)

If you know then share it for those poor (fools) I mean souls.

The information is incorrect. Alex used VPN's, there is no evidence that the others ever used the account.
Title: Re: GH15 - Pocket Bible
Post by: illuminati on July 27, 2018, 09:56:21 AM
The information is incorrect. Alex used VPN's, there is no evidence that the others ever used the account.

Okay - That puts you & "one more rep" at odds.
I'll let You both can sort that one if you can be bothered

You dont know who it was / is either then.?
Title: Re: GH15 - Pocket Bible
Post by: pellius on July 27, 2018, 04:22:58 PM
The information is incorrect. Alex used VPN's, there is no evidence that the others ever used the account.

So, are you saying that you believe it was originally just Nasser and then Alex weaseled his way in and now he's running the show now?

You're very credible in my eyes so just for clarity, if you are able, can you summarize the chain of events to where you think we are now. I know that's a lot to ask but a lot of time has passed since we've discussed this and I'm thinking over time you've settled on a theory. You are one the few that was there in real time when all this played out over the years and you've been very involved as an original member, mod, and creator of the gh15 board itself. You speak from actual experience and independent research as oppose to everybody else that just speculate from what they've read from others that also just speculate. 
Title: Re: GH15 - Pocket Bible
Post by: HonestBob on July 27, 2018, 04:46:30 PM
Pellius, do you realise how weird it is that someone your age got so attached to an internet character?

I find Pellius fascinating and repellant in equal measure.

Like when you always try to spot what type of animal the roadkill is as you drive on by.
Title: Re: GH15 - Pocket Bible
Post by: Kwon3 on July 27, 2018, 04:57:56 PM
gh15 is retired from posting so I doubt anyone here is controlling it, but you never know. Only the mods can see IPs and that's even not that reliable with people on VPNs or who use WiFi hotspots.
Title: Re: GH15 - Pocket Bible
Post by: pellius on July 27, 2018, 08:32:23 PM
I find Pellius fascinating and repellant in equal measure.

Like when you always try to spot what type of animal the roadkill is as you drive on by.

lol! I feel the same way about myself!
Title: Re: GH15 - Pocket Bible
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on July 27, 2018, 09:23:40 PM
Dozens of people claimed to 'know' who gh15 is/was but nobody has ever put any kind of evidence forth.

It's doubtful anyone knows anything conclusive otherwise it would have been posted by now
Title: Re: GH15 - Pocket Bible
Post by: Rearden Metal on July 28, 2018, 07:23:38 AM
So, are you saying that you believe it was originally just Nasser and then Alex weaseled his way in and now he's running the show now?

You're very credible in my eyes so just for clarity, if you are able, can you summarize the chain of events to where you think we are now. I know that's a lot to ask but a lot of time has passed since we've discussed this and I'm thinking over time you've settled on a theory. You are one the few that was there in real time when all this played out over the years and you've been very involved as an original member, mod, and creator of the gh15 board itself. You speak from actual experience and independent research as oppose to everybody else that just speculate from what they've read from others that also just speculate.  

I can, but don't have enough time to do it full justice right now.

I think both Alex and Nasser were on the account from nearly the beginning, maybe they hatched the idea together, maybe it was Nasser then Alex gave him the ability/framework to build something out of the character.

As for identity, I have 2 separate names for people that HAVE been on the account. One in FL, one in Maine. I won't disclose names because I don't doxx people who are actively posting on dark web pages, even if they attempt to doxx me. I also cannot link them logically to Nasser. I believe (conjecture) that g101/admin has made the relationships to further the brand.
Title: Re: GH15 - Pocket Bible
Post by: Rearden Metal on July 28, 2018, 07:25:09 AM
worth noting that gh15 currently has a thread about me being arrested/incarcerated, which I am most certainly not.
Title: Re: GH15 - Pocket Bible
Post by: J. Richards on July 28, 2018, 10:52:57 AM
well.... keep going guys....  don't stall out during lunch..... i need something to read whilst i try and shove this mercury-laden tuna down....  ;D
Title: Re: GH15 - Pocket Bible
Post by: D.O.A. on July 28, 2018, 12:06:19 PM
Dozens of people claimed to 'know' who gh15 is/was but nobody has ever put any kind of evidence forth.

It's doubtful anyone knows anything conclusive otherwise it would have been posted by now
That's it!
Specially those guys here would have taken credit for it by now and show proof! lol Fact is no one knows!
Nasser was born in Germany, Stuttgart! He spoke perfect german even with dialect. Also spoke Serbo-Kroatian,French i think even italien!(graduated in Augsburg) GH15 doesn't or never did show any skills of german at all! He would let everyone know how smart he is if he had those qualities! His spelling is always been bad but its more for show.
It would have shown at one point. So no, it never was Nasser!
Gh15 has been the same dude ever since the beginning of the bible. His temper alone is so funny and unique, still it never changed. Its simple to stay under the radar if its only one person. You dont have to worry about fuckups or your IP!
If it would have been more then one person,eventually they would have been fighting and ratting each other out. Just like they still do for a few bucks or whatever!
Even though people hate to admit it, he kept it kind of smart and simple. Matter of fact: No one know who he was or is!

Title: Re: GH15 - Pocket Bible
Post by: Rearden Metal on July 28, 2018, 02:23:53 PM
That's it!
Specially those guys here would have taken credit for it by now and show proof! lol Fact is no one knows!
Nasser was born in Germany, Stuttgart! He spoke perfect german even with dialect. Also spoke Serbo-Kroatian,French i think even italien!(graduated in Augsburg) GH15 doesn't or never did show any skills of german at all! He would let everyone know how smart he is if he had those qualities! His spelling is always been bad but its more for show.
It would have shown at one point. So no, it never was Nasser!
Gh15 has been the same dude ever since the beginning of the bible. His temper alone is so funny and unique, still it never changed. Its simple to stay under the radar if its only one person. You dont have to worry about fuckups or your IP!
If it would have been more then one person,eventually they would have been fighting and ratting each other out. Just like they still do for a few bucks or whatever!
Even though people hate to admit it, he kept it kind of smart and simple. Matter of fact: No one know who he was or is!



gh15 has posted from several IPs, notably unmasked ones in CA, FL and ME. He's also copy/pasted from the poster in ME posts on a supernatural forum several posts word for word. That person's account is verified as a late forties man who sells real estate in ME.

I don't have to deliver proof for it to be true.

As for Nasser, it is an educated guess. Your points are valid. I contend in obscuring his identity Nasser was smart enough to leave out certain parts of his knowledge, but egotistical enough to make concessions about others.
Title: Re: GH15 - Pocket Bible
Post by: illuminati on July 28, 2018, 02:24:54 PM
That's it!
Specially those guys here would have taken credit for it by now and show proof! lol Fact is no one knows!
Nasser was born in Germany, Stuttgart! He spoke perfect german even with dialect. Also spoke Serbo-Kroatian,French i think even italien!(graduated in Augsburg) GH15 doesn't or never did show any skills of german at all! He would let everyone know how smart he is if he had those qualities! His spelling is always been bad but its more for show.
It would have shown at one point. So no, it never was Nasser!
Gh15 has been the same dude ever since the beginning of the bible. His temper alone is so funny and unique, still it never changed. Its simple to stay under the radar if its only one person. You dont have to worry about fuckups or your IP!
If it would have been more then one person,eventually they would have been fighting and ratting each other out. Just like they still do for a few bucks or whatever!
Even though people hate to admit it, he kept it kind of smart and simple. Matter of fact: No one know who he was or is!




Your probably right that no one knows who it is.
Atleast “one more rep” offered up 4 names with some back up to his claims.
Rearden refutes that “OMR” is correct -Though As yet hasn’t put forward a or any names.

It’s just as likely to Peter Pan & Daffy Duck for all the garbage he comes
Out with - Mind he’s certainly cast a spell over a good few elf’s / wizards / fools & schmucks
And had their $’s Away more than once. Ha ha.
Title: Re: GH15 - Pocket Bible
Post by: Kwon3 on July 28, 2018, 04:32:36 PM
That's it!
Specially those guys here would have taken credit for it by now and show proof! lol Fact is no one knows!
Nasser was born in Germany, Stuttgart! He spoke perfect german even with dialect. Also spoke Serbo-Kroatian,French i think even italien!(graduated in Augsburg) GH15 doesn't or never did show any skills of german at all! He would let everyone know how smart he is if he had those qualities! His spelling is always been bad but its more for show.
It would have shown at one point. So no, it never was Nasser!
Gh15 has been the same dude ever since the beginning of the bible. His temper alone is so funny and unique, still it never changed. Its simple to stay under the radar if its only one person. You dont have to worry about fuckups or your IP!
If it would have been more then one person,eventually they would have been fighting and ratting each other out. Just like they still do for a few bucks or whatever!
Even though people hate to admit it, he kept it kind of smart and simple. Matter of fact: No one know who he was or is!


Why do you use exclamation marks after every sentence? It sounds feminine and European, like some hysterical Greek woman describing the kidnapper of her daughter.
Title: Re: GH15 - Pocket Bible
Post by: pellius on July 28, 2018, 04:40:00 PM
Why do you use exclamation marks after every sentence? It sounds feminine and European, like some hysterical Greek woman describing the kidnapper of her daughter.

LOL! I'm going to use that!
Title: Re: GH15 - Pocket Bible
Post by: Kwon3 on July 28, 2018, 05:17:37 PM
LOL! I'm going to use that!
8)
Title: Re: GH15 - Pocket Bible
Post by: Van_Bilderass on July 29, 2018, 03:44:57 PM
If you all wanted to know who exactly was behind it, just ask Ron. He knows who the user(s) were.

"1"

I don't want to message Ron privately, he doesn't know me
so why would he tell me anything. But please, get Ron on this thread to say anything about gh15. Ron has never said one thing about gh15 publically, for or against, in all these years from what I've seen. I bet he won't do so now either, who knows why. OMR, please please get Ron to verify some of the things you said, I'm really curious :D  

Lots of posters claimed to know who he was through the years. Rearden I think named some black bb awhile back. Others were certain he was some named white fella and posted pics. I was even accused of being in on it by Dante, and I almost never even PM'd anyone here or any other board ever... I'm not sure but I can't remember PM'ing gh15 even once. I think most who are certain of this or that wrt to gh15 are full of shit. :D
Of course I'd also love to know the real backstory, but it seems like we'll never hear it.

gh15 was a great source of entertainment here. Fantastic and very funny posting, he said things in an original way. A short while before he left here he started spamming the main board here very aggressively and that's when that "era" was over for me. Checked his site out for a week or two but it wasn't for me.

pellius, I did catch that thing you posted about bigbobs sister and Alex. You have a good memory but that was way off from what I remembered. :)
Title: Re: GH15 - Pocket Bible
Post by: pellius on August 01, 2018, 03:38:08 PM
I don't want to message Ron privately, he doesn't know me
so why would he tell me anything. But please, get Ron on this thread to say anything about gh15. Ron has never said one thing about gh15 publically, for or against, in all these years from what I've seen. I bet he won't do so now either, who knows why. OMR, please please get Ron to verify some of the things you said, I'm really curious :D  

Lots of posters claimed to know who he was through the years. Rearden I think named some black bb awhile back. Others were certain he was some named white fella and posted pics. I was even accused of being in on it by Dante, and I almost never even PM'd anyone here or any other board ever... I'm not sure but I can't remember PM'ing gh15 even once. I think most who are certain of this or that wrt to gh15 are full of shit. :D
Of course I'd also love to know the real backstory, but it seems like we'll never hear it.

gh15 was a great source of entertainment here. Fantastic and very funny posting, he said things in an original way. A short while before he left here he started spamming the main board here very aggressively and that's when that "era" was over for me. Checked his site out for a week or two but it wasn't for me.

pellius, I did catch that thing you posted about bigbobs sister and Alex. You have a good memory but that was way off from what I remembered. :)


Yes, chaos also pointed that out and both he and you are correct and I was wrong. Got BigBob and Flexington mixed up. If I am wrong about anything I want to know. My only agenda is the truth. I
still think it was BigBob that introduced Alex23 to Nasser. If I'm wrong about that then how did Alex23 get involved with Nasser. That's what gh15 was inquiring about which is one of the reasons I don't think gh15 was Nasser.

You had a unique relationship with gh15 in that he seemed to be a bigger fan of you than you were of him. When he left the board he passed the "mantle" on to you. He never forgave you for not accepting a Mod position on his board or not even registering as a member. God of Hormones doesn't take rejection well.
Title: Re: GH15 - Pocket Bible
Post by: Van_Bilderass on August 01, 2018, 04:09:35 PM
Yes, chaos also pointed that out and both he and you are correct and I was wrong. Got BigBob and Flexington mixed up. If I am wrong about anything I want to know. My only agenda is the truth. I
still think it was BigBob that introduced Alex23 to Nasser. If I'm wrong about that then how did Alex23 get involved with Nasser. That's what gh15 was inquiring about which is one of the reasons I don't think gh15 was Nasser.

You had a unique relationship with gh15 in that he seemed to be a bigger fan of you than you were of him. When he left the board he passed the "mantle" on to you. He never forgave you for not accepting a Mod position on his board or not even registering as a member. God of Hormones doesn't take rejection well.

I used to think that if gh15 was a pro it was Nasser and if it wasn't Nasser it might as well be. Remember when Bob Chick asked Nasser if he was gh15 and Nasser said something like, "I can neither confirm or deny it". Strange way of answering that question no?  :D

I never said anything bad about him. I just can't be on heavily moderated forums, because I think most productive/interesting/funny discussions involve disagreements instead of bannings. I wouldn't want to be a mod anywhere either because that involves policing people. gh15 got popular thanks to Ron's liberal rules here, wouldn't have worked anywhere else.
Title: Re: GH15 - Pocket Bible
Post by: Zillotch on August 01, 2018, 04:13:51 PM
anyone who took gh15 seriously is severely dumb
Title: Re: GH15 - Pocket Bible
Post by: Kwon3 on August 01, 2018, 06:08:32 PM
anyone who took gh15 seriously is severely dumb
Van seems to like him for his quirky gimmicky humor and occasionally-correct drug advice; same with Pel. If that's all anyone enjoyed about him, I'd say it's perfectly fine because he was basically harmless.

But if someone really DID become a 'follower' in the conventional sense of the word, then yeah, that's very sad.
Title: Re: GH15 - Pocket Bible
Post by: illuminati on August 01, 2018, 06:27:16 PM
Van seems to like him for his quirky gimmicky humor and occasionally-correct drug advice; same with Pel. If that's all anyone enjoyed about him, I'd say it's perfectly fine because he was basically harmless.

But if someone really DID become a 'follower' in the conventional sense of the word, then yeah, that's very sad.

There were plenty who were followers & believed all that he wrote,
Ask how many became elf’s / wizards etc  ::)  or mods on his board
Without ever having the slightest clue who it was  ::)

Sad - More like pathetic as it could of been a group of young kids /
A Peadophile / A Pro bodybuilder - it certainly was a con artist.
After all this time they don’t know,
And are hoping it was A “Name” otherwise the embarrassment might
Be too much for them.

It was quite funny & amusing to start with - though there was nothing
New or ground breaking about what was said.
Title: Re: GH15 - Pocket Bible
Post by: a_pupil on August 02, 2018, 01:20:38 AM
Van seems to like him for his quirky gimmicky humor and occasionally-correct drug advice; same with Pel. If that's all anyone enjoyed about him, I'd say it's perfectly fine because he was basically harmless.

But if someone really DID become a 'follower' in the conventional sense of the word, then yeah, that's very sad.

Around kigtropina era onward he stopped being the lovable character and turned into an online criminal; shitposting 24/7, scamming people, shilling UGLs, doxxing and putting IRL threats/autistic hits out on people/their families.

Also the fake natty crusade was childish.
Title: Re: GH15 - Pocket Bible
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on August 02, 2018, 11:08:24 AM
Also the fake natty crusade was childish.

I think it opened a lot of people's eyes to the extent of PED use in the fitness world.  At least it did for me. 
Title: Re: GH15 - Pocket Bible
Post by: illuminati on August 02, 2018, 01:37:38 PM
anyone who took gh15 seriously is severely dumb

Plenty Did
Just look through this & other threads about GloryHole15
Title: Re: GH15 - Pocket Bible
Post by: OneMoreRep on August 02, 2018, 02:45:43 PM
Plenty Did
Just look through this & other threads about GloryHole15

You're absolutely correct.

Some guys were taking that account's word for gospel. There was nothing that they ever spoke about that wasn't already known. If they were dealing Growth Hormone, good luck to those that were purchasing it from those clowns.

"1"
Title: Re: GH15 - Pocket Bible
Post by: illuminati on August 02, 2018, 02:52:12 PM
You're absolutely correct.

Some guys were taking that account's word for gospel. There was nothing that they ever spoke about that wasn't already known. If they were dealing Growth Hormone, good luck to those that were purchasing it from those clowns.

"1"


I find the saddest / funniest thing is That those same Nut Huggers
Are still Believing there’s a Golden Goose or Pot of Gold at the end of
Glory Hole 15s rainbow.  ::)

They’re unable to face up & admit they were suckered & taken as Fools.
FFS just man up.

Title: Re: GH15 - Pocket Bible
Post by: Kwon3 on August 02, 2018, 04:36:22 PM

I find the saddest / funniest thing is That those same Nut Huggers
Are still Believing there’s a Golden Goose or Pot of Gold at the end of
Glory Hole 15s rainbow.  ::)

They’re unable to face up & admit they were suckered & taken as Fools.
FFS just man up.


Let's not make him out to be a bigger deal than he was. I read that entire thread about him and I only counted maybe 4 hardcore defenders even back then, and it was 4 years ago.

I think for a while he pushed the boundaries of forum BBing by being open about everything AAS/GH/Ped/Insulin-related when nobody but clowns like Bostin Lloyd were doing it on Youtube (since even YT 'celebrities' like Kali and Rich skimmed over it or ignored it altogether, and Pros always deny by reflex), and that appealed to a few people. Then, like OMR said, he operated a website that apparently had legitimately real links with real-life dealers/sources and that naturally must've appealed to a number of people who gravitated toward him. If everyone got scammed, presumably his star wouldn't have taken off for long, so my guess is some people did benefit from their association with him, even if it was just to know the right people to get their first cycles started. But, ultimately, nobody really knows who he is, so it's not really worth talking about a shadow for all eternity. I think that big thread pretty much covered anything entertaining related to his saga.
Title: Re: GH15 - Pocket Bible
Post by: pellius on August 03, 2018, 03:21:03 AM
I still find it hard to believe that Alex was part of the gh15 account. gh15 always hated him.

lol alex33 is the fella behind account penertrations,, he is the fella behind the ability to read and hack your name...he is the fella behin dtakign getbig down whenever he wishes...yes yes he is many gimicks i dotn know all thast the problem ,, from goomba to delta and inbetween he has 100s of gimicks

it doesnt matter webpage almost up ,, only delay maybe because they want forum and steroid board,, so we will see ,, but i want to bring webpage up in march
Title: Re: GH15 - Pocket Bible
Post by: OneMoreRep on August 03, 2018, 05:34:43 AM
I still find it hard to believe that Alex was part of the gh15 account. gh15 always hated him.


But is it hard to believe that Alex could have simply used the gh15 gimmick to state that he hates himself (Alex) in order to derail members from believing he was behind the gh15 account?

We see people create opposing gimmicks on this site all the time. Heck, I've seen one particular member go on and on within a single thread having a conversation with himself.

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Title: Re: GH15 - Pocket Bible
Post by: illuminati on August 03, 2018, 06:38:22 AM
But is it hard to believe that Alex could have simply used the gh15 gimmick to state that he hates himself (Alex) in order to derail members from believing he was behind the gh15 account?

We see people create opposing gimmicks on this site all the time. Heck, I've seen one particular member go on and on within a single thread having a conversation with himself.

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"We see people create opposing gimmicks on this site all the time. Heck, I've seen one particular member go on and on within a single thread having a conversation with himself."

That's hilarious & Pure madness

I've a fair guess or 2 as who it could of been.

Any clues if not against the rules as that would make for some funny reading

Title: Re: GH15 - Pocket Bible
Post by: OneMoreRep on August 03, 2018, 07:24:27 AM
"We see people create opposing gimmicks on this site all the time. Heck, I've seen one particular member go on and on within a single thread having a conversation with himself."

That's hilarious & Pure madness

I've a fair guess or 2 as who it could of been.

Any clues if not against the rules as that would make for some funny reading




There is/was a member of Persian decent, who typically decorated his screen name with the Persian term of endearment that translates to "dear", who would take part in the broadcasting of his internal monologues.

Strangely, much like Ron, I've grown a soft spot for all of those individuals. Sometimes I want to eradicate them from the site, but most often times, I would settle with an apology and clean slate approach.

Are they annoying? Yes. Do they bring entertainment? Sometimes. Do they cause harm to others by being intrusive? Unfortunately, yes.

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Title: Re: GH15 - Pocket Bible
Post by: illuminati on August 03, 2018, 08:59:46 AM

There is/was a member of Persian decent, who typically decorated his screen name with the Persian term of endearment that translates to "dear", who would take part in the broadcasting of his internal monologues.

Strangely, much like Ron, I've grown a soft spot for all of those individuals. Sometimes I want to eradicate them from the site, but most often times, I would settle with an apology and clean slate approach.

Are they annoying? Yes. Do they bring entertainment? Sometimes. Do they cause harm to others by being intrusive? Unfortunately, yes.

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Ha ha
My Guess was correct.
Yes at times he was slightly funny
He soon turned into a bore & just destroying threads & being a complete wanker.

any link to that thread.

Thanks.
Title: Re: GH15 - Pocket Bible
Post by: pellius on August 03, 2018, 03:26:09 PM
But is it hard to believe that Alex could have simply used the gh15 gimmick to state that he hates himself (Alex) in order to derail members from believing he was behind the gh15 account?

We see people create opposing gimmicks on this site all the time. Heck, I've seen one particular member go on and on within a single thread having a conversation with himself.

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Perhaps. But why would he do that to me in private PM? Alex running the account was never an issue for me. There would be no reason for him to try to convince me otherwise.  In fact, I use to have heated argument with gh15 that bigmc was not Alex even though gh15insisted that he was, and he always likes to say, "I am never wrong."
Title: Re: GH15 - Pocket Bible
Post by: pellius on August 03, 2018, 03:37:26 PM
BTW, gh15 did try to convince me that he wasn't "mighty1" on another board. Mighty1 didn't
talk like gh15 and wasn't trying to impersonate him in any way. But after a while somethings
came through where I started to think that this was him. Mighty1 was very active on the boards
and really praised the kigs but he disappeared once gh15 started his own board.

As far as Alex, no need to convince me. I always thought gh15 was the same old gh15 from day one
and him being Nasser, DJ or Alex -- or all three was a nonissue for me.
Title: Re: GH15 - Pocket Bible
Post by: OneMoreRep on August 03, 2018, 03:47:27 PM
BTW, gh15 did try to convince me that he wasn't "mighty1" on another board. Mighty1 didn't
talk like gh15 and wasn't trying to impersonate him in any way. But after a while somethings
came through where I started to think that this was him. Mighty1 was very active on the boards
and really praised the kigs but he disappeared once gh15 started his own board.

As far as Alex, no need to convince me. I always thought gh15 was the same old gh15 from day one
and him being Nasser, DJ or Alex -- or all three was a nonissue for me.

You'd be amazed at the things that have been suggested.

One of the craziest theories that have been sent over my way upon the inception of this thread was:

Quote
pellius is and has always been gh15.. he used the moniker as a front to sell drugs to members and always kept a distance from the account as to throw others off

We receive shit like this all the time.

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Title: Re: GH15 - Pocket Bible
Post by: Kwon3 on August 03, 2018, 03:56:06 PM
You'd be amazed at the things that have been suggested.

One of the craziest theories that have been sent over my way upon the inception of this thread was:

We receive shit like this all the time.

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From nutless cowards, yeah. The moment someone sends me a PM, I immediately start to troll them or ignore it. People like that are why MeToo exists - it's all backstabbing, behind-the-scenes bullshit. If you're going to call Pellius out, do it in the thread like a man, not to a mod in private like a fucking pimp.
Title: Re: GH15 - Pocket Bible
Post by: OneMoreRep on August 03, 2018, 04:00:25 PM
From nutless cowards, yeah. The moment someone sends me a PM, I immediately start to troll them or ignore it. People like that are why MeToo exists - it's all backstabbing, behind-the-scenes bullshit. If you're going to call Pellius out, do it in the thread like a man, not to a mod in private like a fucking pimp.

It's a sport around here man. Back in the days, people used to just call each other out, have it blow up, only to then laugh at the situation.

Now, it's different, civilized.

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Title: Re: GH15 - Pocket Bible
Post by: Kwon3 on August 03, 2018, 04:02:49 PM
It's a sport around here man. Back in the days, people used to just call each other out, have it blow up, only to then laugh at the situation.

Now, it's different, civilized.

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There's no problem with someone reporting something to you privately that they feel uncomfortable posting in a thread. It's what you do here when you're not at your real job and have nothing better to do, and we've liked you as a community because you're generally an honest and very well-spoken dude.

But using PMs to spread gossip or malicious rumors isn't behavior becoming of someone who's born with external reproductive organs. It's what women do, and we tolerate that because we expect nothing better.
Title: Re: GH15 - Pocket Bible
Post by: pellius on August 03, 2018, 09:52:40 PM
You'd be amazed at the things that have been suggested.

One of the craziest theories that have been sent over my way upon the inception of this thread was:

We receive shit like this all the time.

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Hah! I heard that too! I use to get PMs on that. Even Sev has been accused of being gh15 and when PMs were posted where Sev is asking gh15 about his ED problem it was also said to be Sev conversing with himself to try to fool others. And again this was in PMs -- where nobody else was supposed to be reading it.

When all the smoke clears decades from now we will finally know that the real man behind gh15 all this time was YOU!

You heard it here first, bitches.

.
Title: Re: GH15 - Pocket Bible
Post by: pellius on August 03, 2018, 10:05:06 PM
I don't think anyone of this board was closer to Nasser than Sherief Shalaby. It all started years ago
when Nasser personally answered a fan letter from Shalaby and they kept in contact throughout the years and would get together when Nasser was in Egypt. I've always heard that Nasser was good like that. Always appreciated his fans. I can't find the correspondence that I had with Shalaby when he told me that Nasser was absolutely not gh15. Take that for whatever it's worth. Shalaby did take his death very hard and was one of the last ones to see him alive.

hello pellius,

thx for your kind feelings..

when i met nasser he looked healthy and was doing everything with no problem... lifting, cardio,.. eating.. etc.. i didnt feel at all he was ill and he didnt say anything..

sorry for answering you briefly but i cant talk about nasser in details now as this makes me more desperate.. 

sherief.

Title: Re: GH15 - Pocket Bible
Post by: illuminati on August 04, 2018, 03:28:39 AM
Yoda's Elf's Wizards etc ::)
Answering to a unknown character & Listening / taking on-board
what they say - glory hole 15 character very evidently didnt
reveal his true identity even to those who were supposedly close.  ::)

Yet they still arguing who it was is & desperate to find out Who had them over & conned
them out of their $s - Likelihood is its a different person behind the character now.

Carry on Lads it makes for amusing entertainment.  ;D

   
Title: Re: GH15 - Pocket Bible
Post by: a_pupil on August 04, 2018, 05:06:28 PM
Yoda's Elf's Wizards etc ::)
Answering to a unknown character & Listening / taking on-board
what they say - glory hole 15 character very evidently didnt
reveal his true identity even to those who were supposedly close.  ::)

Yet they still arguing who it was is & desperate to find out Who had them over & conned
them out of their $s - Likelihood is its a different person behind the character now.

Carry on Lads it makes for amusing entertainment.  ;D

  

it seems like the elves or jedi finally caught up to bigmc though

either that or the high blood pressure from blasting juice whilst over 25% bf finally got to him.
Title: Re: GH15 - Pocket Bible
Post by: illuminati on August 04, 2018, 08:07:52 PM
it seems like the elves or jedi finally caught up to bigmc though

either that or the high blood pressure from blasting juice whilst over 25% bf finally got to him.

Or maybe it was just 1 too many BigMc’s that caught up with him.  :D
Title: Re: GH15 - Pocket Bible
Post by: Kwon3 on August 04, 2018, 08:46:26 PM
it seems like the elves or jedi finally caught up to bigmc though

either that or the high blood pressure from blasting juice whilst over 25% bf finally got to him.
his threads with donny were old-style getbig in the new age, and pure fucking jokes
as for his inability to stay friends with anyone on here for long as he couldn't resist poking fun at the ironies of their posts, that was fucking satirical too!
Title: Re: GH15 - Pocket Bible
Post by: mazrim on August 05, 2018, 09:44:21 AM
Probably Pellius, OMR, and Rearden in the beginning.

Now Illuminati.

Title: Re: GH15 - Pocket Bible
Post by: chaos on August 05, 2018, 01:11:54 PM
it seems like the elves or jedi finally caught up to bigmc though

either that or the high blood pressure from blasting juice whilst over 25% bf finally got to him.
Bigmc is alive and well. As a matter of fact he's on vacation, Dubaii, India.
Title: Re: GH15 - Pocket Bible
Post by: OneMoreRep on August 05, 2018, 02:47:29 PM
There's no problem with someone reporting something to you privately that they feel uncomfortable posting in a thread. It's what you do here when you're not at your real job and have nothing better to do, and we've liked you as a community because you're generally an honest and very well-spoken dude.

But using PMs to spread gossip or malicious rumors isn't behavior becoming of someone who's born with external reproductive organs. It's what women do, and we tolerate that because we expect nothing better.

Easy my man, this is a bodybuilding board in which members venerate men who perform (practically naked) in glorified beauty pageants, in which the preparation for said events involves continual hormonal therapy (that if not counterbalanced can lead to a wonderful array of emasculating effects) and posing routines performed while sensual music plays, all the while participants are drenched in baby oil (sounds a lot like a gay strip club or a strip club for females).  These kinds of spectacles are certainly not becoming of someone who's born with external reproductive organs, but yet here we all are, paying tribute to these muscle men.

The board is called Gossip & Opinions, no?

If gossip is going around suggesting that a member could have been behind the gh15 account, it's simply just that, gossip and so as long as the person spreading the gossip isn't named, it's still very much so anonymous. Just like when everyone was trying to figure out who the undercover pro was at bodybuilding.com. Rumors would go around and, little by little, people figured out it was Titus.

Also, there is nothing malicious about pellius or anyone being behind the gh15 account. It would be comical if that were the case, but certainly a far cry from malicious.

Malicious is when members here go after innocent women and children.

Malicious is when people go out of their way to affect the personal lives of our members and decide to want to call their places of work.

Everything in this thread is just entertainment, people speculating about "who" was behind a long lasting gimmick account. We've provided people with what is known, but people want to keep herding their unicorns by giving the conspiracy more twists and turns.

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