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Title: Complete waste of taxpayers money.....and paper
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 13, 2018, 08:09:18 PM
Meaningless....

https://www.justice.gov/file/1080281/download
Title: Re: Complete waste of taxpayers money.....and paper
Post by: Primemuscle on July 13, 2018, 11:54:31 PM
Meaningless....

https://www.justice.gov/file/1080281/download

I imagine you're referring to the the fact that there's not a snowball's chance in hell they'll ever go to trial.   ;)
Title: Re: Complete waste of taxpayers money.....and paper
Post by: chaos on July 14, 2018, 08:02:39 AM
I imagine you're referring to the the fact that there's not a snowball's chance in hell they'll ever go to trial.   ;)
Absolutely. Dog and pony show to justify the millions and millions of tax dollars wasted.
Title: Re: Complete waste of taxpayers money.....and paper
Post by: lilhawk1 on July 14, 2018, 08:47:08 AM
You guys are friggin clueless how conspiracies work.  Of course they aren't going to trial.  The Americans that aided and abetted them are next to get indicted.  Dumbfuck Donnie and his crew are in deep shit, just wait and see.  Mueller is light years ahead of these retards.  Gee, is it a coincidence Trump was bragging about Wikileaks, and telling the Russians to find the emails, all right when the Russians hacked the DNC server?  That's what narcissists do, they have to brag, in his case bragging about something he thought nobody else knew.  His own big mouth is going to hang him.  He knew everything that was going on.  Of course though, there is nothing to see here, all fake news.  Just like the interview of him on tape talking about May and here decision on Brexit.  His own voice on tape, and he says its fake.  Fuckin moron.
Title: Re: Complete waste of taxpayers money.....and paper
Post by: chaos on July 14, 2018, 12:13:38 PM
You guys are friggin clueless how conspiracies work.  Of course they aren't going to trial.  The Americans that aided and abetted them are next to get indicted.  Dumbfuck Donnie and his crew are in deep shit, just wait and see.  Mueller is light years ahead of these retards.  Gee, is it a coincidence Trump was bragging about Wikileaks, and telling the Russians to find the emails, all right when the Russians hacked the DNC server?  That's what narcissists do, they have to brag, in his case bragging about something he thought nobody else knew.  His own big mouth is going to hang him.  He knew everything that was going on.  Of course though, there is nothing to see here, all fake news.  Just like the interview of him on tape talking about May and here decision on Brexit.  His own voice on tape, and he says its fake.  Fuckin moron.
And then?
Title: Re: Complete waste of taxpayers money.....and paper
Post by: LurkerNoMore on July 14, 2018, 12:52:31 PM
And then?

More indictments in the meantime.  We are like at what?  One a week now?
Title: Re: Complete waste of taxpayers money.....and paper
Post by: chaos on July 14, 2018, 01:09:38 PM
More indictments in the meantime.  We are like at what?  One a week now?
And then what?

Eventually they will run out of small fries to sacrifice and either have to give up a big name or they'll call it quits and quietly end any investigation.
Title: Re: Complete waste of taxpayers money.....and paper
Post by: Primemuscle on July 14, 2018, 01:36:21 PM
And then what?

Eventually they will run out of small fries to sacrifice and either have to give up a big name or they'll call it quits and quietly end any investigation.

Then again, these indicted "small fries" could be the foundation for something or someone larger.
Title: Re: Complete waste of taxpayers money.....and paper
Post by: chaos on July 14, 2018, 05:11:41 PM
Then again, these indicted "small fries" could be the foundation for something or someone larger.
Only if they can find a way to pin it on Trump or someone close to him. Any other career politician (killary, Obama) is protected because they know too many secrets and would take too many people down with them. ;)
Title: Re: Complete waste of taxpayers money.....and paper
Post by: Primemuscle on July 14, 2018, 06:27:09 PM
Only if they can find a way to pin it on Trump or someone close to him. Any other career politician (killary, Obama) is protected because they know too many secrets and would take too many people down with them. ;)

Conversely, are you saying Trump and his gang of misfits are politically and intellectually uninformed and therefore lacking the ability to expose their foes as a means of creating immunity? Seems to me that Trump willingly sacrifices his cohorts in an attempt to camouflage the cracked and filthy floor of his deluded and corrupt deeds.  ;)
Title: Re: Complete waste of taxpayers money.....and paper
Post by: Straw Man on July 14, 2018, 07:12:05 PM
And then?

and then Trumptards like you will say it's no big deal that Trump and/or the people around him colluded with a foreign adversary to rig our democratic process

Title: Re: Complete waste of taxpayers money.....and paper
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 14, 2018, 08:11:43 PM
Why not indict Putin?
Title: Re: Complete waste of taxpayers money.....and paper
Post by: chaos on July 15, 2018, 09:00:07 AM
and then Trumptards like you will say it's no big deal that Trump and/or the people around him colluded with a foreign adversary to rig our democratic process


Rig our democratic process like Obama when he spied on Trump before the election? Or like that reporter that gave killary the questions before a debate? Or like the DNC when they admitted they rigged the numbers for killary to get the nod over Bernie? Exactly how did these foreign adversaries rig our election?
Title: Re: Complete waste of taxpayers money.....and paper
Post by: Primemuscle on July 15, 2018, 01:30:28 PM
Why not indict Putin?

What  an interesting question. I can't find an answer to it. For the U.S. judicial system to indict Putin seems outrageous and would likely trigger war...or a big laugh from Russia.  And yet, it might be legally possible. Personally, I wouldn't recommend we do it even if we could.
Title: Re: Complete waste of taxpayers money.....and paper
Post by: Primemuscle on July 15, 2018, 01:34:31 PM
Rig our democratic process like Obama when he spied on Trump before the election? Or like that reporter that gave killary the questions before a debate? Or like the DNC when they admitted they rigged the numbers for killary to get the nod over Bernie? Exactly how did these foreign adversaries rig our election?

I hate for you to be my parent. You'd likely bring up every little thing I ever did since birth when you're trying to make a point even though it wouldn't change a thing and you knew that.
Title: Re: Complete waste of taxpayers money.....and paper
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 15, 2018, 02:48:35 PM
What  an interesting question. I can't find an answer to it. For the U.S. judicial system to indict Putin seems outrageous and would likely trigger war...or a big laugh from Russia.  And yet, it might be legally possible. Personally, I wouldn't recommend we do it even if we could.

I look at it like this. You know as well I do Putin ordered those spies to...spy (it's what they do) so why not indict him as well. IMO, they'll get a huge laugh out of it just like I think they did when Mueller indicted the 12 last week. It's not like anything will happen.
Title: Re: Complete waste of taxpayers money.....and paper
Post by: Primemuscle on July 15, 2018, 03:31:11 PM
I look at it like this. You know as well I do Putin ordered those spies to...spy (it's what they do) so why not indict him as well. IMO, they'll get a huge laugh out of it just like I think they did when Mueller indicted the 12 last week. It's not like anything will happen.

You're right. If it were legally possible and there was enough evidence to indite Putin and if fairness were the only issue, he should have also been indicted. Sure, the Russians would get a huge laugh out of it, because they won't show up for arraignment. However, their being indicted will still have an impact. Anyway, spies are expendable, Presidents, not so much.

Title: Re: Complete waste of taxpayers money.....and paper
Post by: chaos on July 15, 2018, 03:54:45 PM
I hate for you to be my parent. You'd likely bring up every little thing I ever did since birth when you're trying to make a point even though it wouldn't change a thing and you knew that.
It's called counterpoints. He's claiming Russia "rigged" our election, with no proof that anything they supposedly did had any impact on the outcome of the election, yet he's blatantly ignoring the fact that American DNC rigged the election to favor killary and he has no outrage over that.
Title: Re: Complete waste of taxpayers money.....and paper
Post by: Irongrip400 on July 15, 2018, 03:56:58 PM
Nothing will happen to Trump much like nothing will happen to the Clintons.
Title: Re: Complete waste of taxpayers money.....and paper
Post by: Primemuscle on July 15, 2018, 04:11:43 PM
It's called counterpoints. He's claiming Russia "rigged" our election, with no proof that anything they supposedly did had any impact on the outcome of the election, yet he's blatantly ignoring the fact that American DNC rigged the election to favor killary and he has no outrage over that.

Nobody, least of all me, ever said politics was honest or fair. Politicians and their political parties will do nearly anything to get elected. It not so much a problem whether the election was rigged as it is who rigged it and their motive for doing so. I doubt Russia has America's best interests in mind. Hillary had a political advantage over Sanders, she was more likely to get the votes (and she did) than Bernie was. Who is President in not the issue. The main goal of the DNC and the RNC is to gain control of the government.
Title: Re: Complete waste of taxpayers money.....and paper
Post by: Primemuscle on July 15, 2018, 04:15:56 PM
Nothing will happen to Trump much like nothing will happen to the Clintons.

Unfortunately, you are probably right. No one should be above the law including HRC and Trump. Anyone proved guilty of breaking the law should suffer the consequences of doing so. That's how it should be, but not how it is.
Title: Re: Complete waste of taxpayers money.....and paper
Post by: LurkerNoMore on July 16, 2018, 07:41:17 AM
It's called counterpoints. He's claiming Russia "rigged" our election, with no proof that anything they supposedly did had any impact on the outcome of the election, yet he's blatantly ignoring the fact that American DNC rigged the election to favor killary and he has no outrage over that.

Did you throw up your arms in news of the DNC rigging the election in favor or Hillary?
Title: Re: Complete waste of taxpayers money.....and paper
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 16, 2018, 08:50:30 AM
Nothing will happen to Trump much like nothing will happen to the Clintons.

Not true. They'll find a way to get Trump whether he did anything or not (and after almost 2 million documents, there's nothing tied to him) Political liberals are repulsive pieces of shit. The democratic party should disband. They have ZERO platforms and can't address issues
Title: Re: Complete waste of taxpayers money.....and paper
Post by: LurkerNoMore on July 16, 2018, 02:15:58 PM
For someone who isn't guilty of anything, Trump - and his Trumpettes - sure spent a lot of time whining about the investigation. 

For someone who isn't guilty of anything, this administration sure is racking up indictment after indictment. 
Title: Re: Complete waste of taxpayers money.....and paper
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 16, 2018, 02:27:35 PM
For someone who isn't guilty of anything, Trump - and his Trumpettes - sure spent a lot of time whining about the investigation. 

For someone who isn't guilty of anything, this administration sure is racking up indictment after indictment. 

Let me know which indictments had anything to do with “Russian collusion”
Title: Re: Complete waste of taxpayers money.....and paper
Post by: Straw Man on July 16, 2018, 02:34:58 PM
Let me know which indictments had anything to do with “Russian collusion”

When those come out you'll say "what's wrong with colluding with a foreign adversary to undermine out democracy"?
Title: Re: Complete waste of taxpayers money.....and paper
Post by: LurkerNoMore on July 16, 2018, 03:41:57 PM
Let me know which indictments had anything to do with “Russian collusion”

Hell, the fact that there are 20+ indictments and multiple people cooperating with the feds now would be worrisome enough.  Just be patience, pretty sure more is on the way.

Benghazi - 4 years = 0 indictments.
Email scandal - 2 years = 0 indictments.

Trump administration - 17 months = 20+ indictments.

Title: Re: Complete waste of taxpayers money.....and paper
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 16, 2018, 06:20:29 PM
Hell, the fact that there are 20+ indictments and multiple people cooperating with the feds now would be worrisome enough.  Just be patience, pretty sure more is on the way.

Benghazi - 4 years = 0 indictments.
Email scandal - 2 years = 0 indictments.


Trump administration - 17 months = 20+ indictments.



And you can't figure out why? Seriously? You really believe she's innocent despite the hard evidence, don't you?
Title: Re: Complete waste of taxpayers money.....and paper
Post by: chaos on July 16, 2018, 06:23:05 PM
Did you throw up your arms in news of the DNC rigging the election in favor or Hillary?
As a matter of fact, I did. I think it's bullshit killary was pushed so hard and given so many advantages. Best part is, she still lost to Trump!!! :D

Hell, the fact that there are 20+ indictments and multiple people cooperating with the feds now would be worrisome enough.  Just be patience, pretty sure more is on the way.

Benghazi - 4 years = 0 indictments.
Email scandal - 2 years = 0 indictments.

Trump administration - 17 months = 20+ indictments.


This speaks more to the corruption and collusion within the FBI and CIA than it does the guilt or involvement of Russia in the US election.
Title: Re: Complete waste of taxpayers money.....and paper
Post by: Primemuscle on July 16, 2018, 06:26:11 PM
And you can't figure out why? Seriously? You really believe she's innocent despite the hard evidence, don't you?

You are powerless to do anything with regards to these issues except whine and complain about them. What you think is hard evidence must not be so hard after all.
Title: Re: Complete waste of taxpayers money.....and paper
Post by: LurkerNoMore on July 16, 2018, 07:11:34 PM

This speaks more to the corruption and collusion within the FBI and CIA than it does the guilt or involvement of Russia in the US election.

So you think these indictments are false?
Title: Re: Complete waste of taxpayers money.....and paper
Post by: chaos on July 16, 2018, 07:21:28 PM
So you think these indictments are false?
I don't know, haven't seen the evidence like we did when killary was being investigated and not indicted because she knows too much on too many people. When investigators investigate the very people that gave them their jobs, do you think they will find fault?
Title: Re: Complete waste of taxpayers money.....and paper
Post by: LurkerNoMore on July 17, 2018, 10:13:07 AM
I don't know, haven't seen the evidence like we did when killary was being investigated and not indicted because she knows too much on too many people. When investigators investigate the very people that gave them their jobs, do you think they will find fault?

Killary was investigated but not indicted.  So that means she is guilty.  Right?

What does it mean for those who have been investigated and indicted?  Super guilty?

So Republicans investigating Democrats are not getting indictments because they are shady or Hillary knows to many people.   But Republicans investigating Republicans are returning with indictments..... why?
Title: Re: Complete waste of taxpayers money.....and paper
Post by: Conservative Coach on July 17, 2018, 03:28:33 PM
Killary was investigated but not indicted.  So that means she is guilty.  Right?

What does it mean for those who have been investigated and indicted?  Super guilty?

So Republicans investigating Democrats are not getting indictments because they are shady or Hillary knows to many people.   But Republicans investigating Republicans are returning with indictments..... why?
Trumptards don't use logic, just emotion.
Title: Re: Complete waste of taxpayers money.....and paper
Post by: Dos Equis on July 17, 2018, 03:55:09 PM
Trumptards don't use logic, just emotion.

There is nothing logical about what Lurker said.  You have to look at the evidence.  There is overwhelming evidence that Clinton mishandled classified intel. 
Title: Re: Complete waste of taxpayers money.....and paper
Post by: LurkerNoMore on July 17, 2018, 06:16:28 PM
There is nothing logical about what Lurker said.  You have to look at the evidence.  There is overwhelming evidence that Clinton mishandled classified intel. 

And yet... no indictment.  Why is that? 

It's completely logical that either Clinton didn't get charged because _____fill in the blank_____  or that the Republicans are just too stupid to get an indictment.   Republican's obviously run the most incompetent and ass backwards investigations ever to occur.   When it concerns Dems.  When it concerns other Repubs, they seem to land these indictments and guilty pleas pretty easily.
Title: Re: Complete waste of taxpayers money.....and paper
Post by: LurkerNoMore on July 17, 2018, 06:19:12 PM
And you can't figure out why? Seriously? You really believe she's innocent despite the hard evidence, don't you?

My post had neither the words "guilty" or "innocent" in it. 

What it does have is "indictments" in it.  Obviously Republicans can't turn hard evidence into an indictment against a Dem, but they can sure turn fake news into indictments and guilty pleas for other Repubs.
Title: Re: Complete waste of taxpayers money.....and paper
Post by: Dos Equis on July 17, 2018, 06:35:56 PM
And yet... no indictment.  Why is that? 

It's completely logical that either Clinton didn't get charged because _____fill in the blank_____  or that the Republicans are just too stupid to get an indictment.   Republican's obviously run the most incompetent and ass backwards investigations ever to occur.   When it concerns Dems.  When it concerns other Repubs, they seem to land these indictments and guilty pleas pretty easily.

Go back and read what she was charged with, what the law required, who investigated her, how the investigation was conducted, the reason given for not charging her, and figure it out.  It's not hard. 
Title: Re: Complete waste of taxpayers money.....and paper
Post by: chaos on July 17, 2018, 06:47:43 PM
Go back and read what she was charged with, what the law required, who investigated her, how the investigation was conducted, the reason given for not charging her, and figure it out.  It's not hard. 
OH goodness no, all those guys her husband and obama appointed would never turn a blind eye to her traitorous handling of classified info. ::)
Title: Re: Complete waste of taxpayers money.....and paper
Post by: Dos Equis on July 17, 2018, 06:50:49 PM
OH goodness no, all those guys her husband and obama appointed would never turn a blind eye to her traitorous handling of classified info. ::)

Right?
Title: Re: Complete waste of taxpayers money.....and paper
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 17, 2018, 09:14:43 PM
Killary was investigated but not indicted.  So that means she is guilty.  Right?

What does it mean for those who have been investigated and indicted?  Super guilty?

So Republicans investigating Democrats are not getting indictments because they are shady or Hillary knows to many people.   But Republicans investigating Republicans are returning with indictments..... why?

I think you should back read my response to this on the thread, stud. You obviously can’t comprehend
Title: Re: Complete waste of taxpayers money.....and paper
Post by: LurkerNoMore on July 18, 2018, 06:52:04 AM
I think you should back read my response to this on the thread, stud. You obviously can’t comprehend

I see  Repubs can indict Repubs, but not Dems.  Wonder why?
Title: Re: Complete waste of taxpayers money.....and paper
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 18, 2018, 08:50:27 AM
I see  Repubs can indict Repubs, but not Dems.  Wonder why?

I know you wonder. That's whats troubling
Title: Re: Complete waste of taxpayers money.....and paper
Post by: Primemuscle on July 18, 2018, 10:15:41 AM
And yet... no indictment.  Why is that? 

It's completely logical that either Clinton didn't get charged because _____fill in the blank_____  or that the Republicans are just too stupid to get an indictment.   Republican's obviously run the most incompetent and ass backwards investigations ever to occur.   When it concerns Dems.  When it concerns other Repubs, they seem to land these indictments and guilty pleas pretty easily.

Silly me, I believe the judicial system is responsible for bringing criminal charges and not one political party or another.
Title: Re: Complete waste of taxpayers money.....and paper
Post by: Primemuscle on July 18, 2018, 10:17:49 AM
My post had neither the words "guilty" or "innocent" in it. 

What it does have is "indictments" in it.  Obviously Republicans can't turn hard evidence into an indictment against a Dem, but they can sure turn fake news into indictments and guilty pleas for other Repubs.

Not sure the judicial system considers fake or not news as evidence.
Title: Re: Complete waste of taxpayers money.....and paper
Post by: Primemuscle on July 18, 2018, 10:25:42 AM
Go back and read what she was charged with, what the law required, who investigated her, how the investigation was conducted, the reason given for not charging her, and figure it out.  It's not hard. 

HRC was charged? -News to me. I thought her email actions were investigated. The reason she wasn't charged is because if there was any evidence of a wrongdoing, it wasn't enough to charge her. Since she was never charged, it would require new evidence to reopen an investigation. That is unlikely to happen since most people have moved on.
Title: Re: Complete waste of taxpayers money.....and paper
Post by: Primemuscle on July 18, 2018, 10:26:57 AM
OH goodness no, all those guys her husband and obama appointed would never turn a blind eye to her traitorous handling of classified info. ::)

Which "guys" would they be?