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Title: When did this eat 6x a day BS come in to play?
Post by: Wiggs on July 27, 2018, 04:44:29 AM
Were they eating this often in the 80s?  Did it start during the Dorian era?
Title: Re: When did this eat 6x a day BS come in to play?
Post by: IroNat on July 27, 2018, 04:47:38 AM
No, it is way older than that.

1950s.
Title: Re: When did this eat 6x a day BS come in to play?
Post by: Twaddle on July 27, 2018, 05:11:34 AM
It speeds up the metabolism brah.  It's akin to stoking a fire.   :-\
Title: Re: When did this eat 6x a day BS come in to play?
Post by: Papper on July 27, 2018, 05:13:00 AM
You should eat 12-15 small meals each day for maximum gainage bro

And also snack between each meals
Title: Re: When did this eat 6x a day BS come in to play?
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 27, 2018, 05:27:23 AM
Digestion. It's no problem to put 2500 kcal in 3 meals, but we all know that the average BBer eats way more.
Title: Re: When did this eat 6x a day BS come in to play?
Post by: milone79 on July 27, 2018, 05:38:45 AM
No, it is way older than that.

1950s.

Bullshit!!!
Title: Re: When did this eat 6x a day BS come in to play?
Post by: BB on July 27, 2018, 06:26:27 AM
There were guys that were using more frequent feedings, up to 6+ a day, going all the way back to 1800's. The big difference was that it wasn't pushed as the right thing to do, it was just another way to eat. The big push to make it seem like you must eat 5 or 6x came with the supplement companies, particularly in the early 90's when easy mixing protein powders and MRP packets came into being.



Title: Re: When did this eat 6x a day BS come in to play?
Post by: kevcat on July 27, 2018, 06:35:06 AM
Well it depends what theyre calling a 'meal' these days.
Apparently oatmeal and a shake is 1 meal so times that by 3, then eat a bunch of eggs 1 meal, fish and potatoes another meal, and a tub of cottage cheese before bed and theres your 6 'meals' . Then just add in little bits here n there to keep the gains coming  ;D
Title: Re: When did this eat 6x a day BS come in to play?
Post by: Tennisballz on July 27, 2018, 07:38:08 AM
I would imagine Schmoe Weider was the one who pushed this into popularity way back in the day, although I'm not sure if a lot of guys in the 60's, 70's and 80's ate this way.  I know when I got into the iron game in the late 90's the rule everyone lived by was to eat at least every 3 hours which usually meant 6 times per day.  Once everyone started playing the size game it really helped to push the idea as well since dudes were trying to get as big as possible
Title: Re: When did this eat 6x a day BS come in to play?
Post by: falco on July 27, 2018, 08:25:43 AM
3 apples a day for a month:

(https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-7e77a0f0a86b77207355bb753329d2c8)
Title: Re: When did this eat 6x a day BS come in to play?
Post by: Go 4 It on July 27, 2018, 08:30:15 AM
Arnold said he did his best with 5 meals. Most guys are eating 5,000 cals a day, trying to fit that into 3 meals is definitely possible, but how great do you feel when you eat giant meals? When you break these into smaller feedings, I'm sure you'll feel much better, not to mention increase the thermic effect of eating, so in theory if you can break that 5,000 calories into even 8 meals, it would be even better.
Title: Re: When did this eat 6x a day BS come in to play?
Post by: Twaddle on July 27, 2018, 08:34:26 AM
3 apples a day for a month:

(https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-7e77a0f0a86b77207355bb753329d2c8)
(https://i.gifer.com/3fvf.gif)
Title: Re: When did this eat 6x a day BS come in to play?
Post by: Conker on July 27, 2018, 08:44:57 AM
i find x7 meals is the sweet spot.
Title: Re: When did this eat 6x a day BS come in to play?
Post by: VladimirVersic on July 27, 2018, 08:50:38 AM
Regreted eating so much when i started working out.
Read too much magazines like flex etc.
Not all advice was bad tho.
Title: Re: When did this eat 6x a day BS come in to play?
Post by: ratherbebig on July 27, 2018, 10:20:29 AM
i agree 6x a day is bs, this is better

meal 1 proteinshake
meal 2 breakfast
meal 3 pre-workout snack
meal 4 during training snack
meal 5 post-workout proteinshake
meal 6 lunch
meal 7 afternoon snack
meal 8 dinner
meal 9 evening snack
meal 10 slow digesting protein before bed shake
meal 11 up in the middle of the night, just in case, protein shake

Title: Re: When did this eat 6x a day BS come in to play?
Post by: IroNat on July 27, 2018, 11:07:38 AM
Bullshit!!!

Oh my!
Title: Re: When did this eat 6x a day BS come in to play?
Post by: Primemuscle on July 27, 2018, 11:27:02 AM
Not sure when it became a fad. Consuming smaller portions with more frequency makes sense. It's been part of the Jenny Craig diet since the program's onset. It is way ore common than you think. Any snack can be considered another meal. Hopefully, the food choices are healthy. I wouldn't characterize it as BS.
Title: Re: When did this eat 6x a day BS come in to play?
Post by: Explorerspl on July 27, 2018, 11:32:41 AM
Became a staple in the 90s and today because of insulin use. Lantus and humalog in morning with breakfast,humulin r 90 mins pre workout with meal,more humalog post workout meal.

Basically log with every meal,or humulin r 3-4x a day and time meals around it
Title: Re: When did this eat 6x a day BS come in to play?
Post by: jpm101 on July 27, 2018, 12:25:08 PM
Believe the original IRON MAN magazine (Perry Rader) brought the 6 times a day eating thing to notice back in the mid 60's.. Can be very effective for some underweight men or "hard gainers". It did work for some.

Six small meals, which are easily digested and tend to eliminate gas and the bloated feeling. was the idea. A couple of those meals could be shakes. Some guy's just can't handle three heavy meals a day and the complete digestion that is required. . Getting all the protein and above calorie requirements (rather than just the body maintenance calorie requirements..between 2200 to 2400 depending on body type and activity) was the goal.

Some medical recovery issues use 5 to 6 small meals a day as standard treatment.

Title: Re: When did this eat 6x a day BS come in to play?
Post by: wes on July 27, 2018, 12:56:39 PM
Better digestion as well as better assimilation as long as meals are not overly large.
Title: Re: When did this eat 6x a day BS come in to play?
Post by: Rascal full on July 27, 2018, 01:44:16 PM
It's to make the most of your chosen steroids and keep you firing on all cylinders.
Title: Re: When did this eat 6x a day BS come in to play?
Post by: Zillotch on July 27, 2018, 01:51:39 PM
humans stuffing their foul pie hole with food has been popular since the inception of taste buds

Title: Re: When did this eat 6x a day BS come in to play?
Post by: Desolate on July 27, 2018, 07:42:03 PM
Better digestion as well as better assimilation as long as meals are not overly large.

This.^
Title: Re: When did this eat 6x a day BS come in to play?
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 27, 2018, 08:35:23 PM
Were they eating this often in the 80s?  Did it start during the Dorian era?

Yes
Title: Re: When did this eat 6x a day BS come in to play?
Post by: IroNat on July 28, 2018, 03:48:43 AM
3 apples a day for a month:

(https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-7e77a0f0a86b77207355bb753329d2c8)

Link?
Title: Re: When did this eat 6x a day BS come in to play?
Post by: Matt on July 28, 2018, 03:53:48 AM
Were they eating this often in the 80s?  Did it start during the Dorian era?

Great post.

No idea, sir.  It's weird though.
Title: Re: When did this eat 6x a day BS come in to play?
Post by: BB on July 28, 2018, 03:56:12 AM
Link?

She did it through Weightwatchers originally -

www.instagram.com/lobsgetsfit/ .
Title: Re: When did this eat 6x a day BS come in to play?
Post by: Irongrip400 on July 28, 2018, 05:48:34 AM
Hershel Walker eats once a day
Title: Re: When did this eat 6x a day BS come in to play?
Post by: Wiggs on July 28, 2018, 05:58:58 AM
So here's the deal fellas.  You don't need to eat more than once per day.  So all that crazy talk that Hershall Walker was talking wasn't crazy talk. If you consume a nutrient dense meal during intermittent fasting, you'll drop excess fat, maintain your muscle and will be able to train like a madman. You'll be the best version of yourself and not only be fit, but be HEALTHY. So how do you put on muscle?  1. You extend your eating window during the intermittent fasting and eat a little more.  BUT you don't eat 6 times per day unless you're on all the drugs the open and 212 guys are on. Eating ANYTHING raises your insulin levels.  Even protein.  Even protein. Even protein. When your insulin levels are raised or spiked your body stores fat. It's not burning it. Studies have shown that eating 1-2 times per day vs. 6 has no effect on metabolism and this why I titled the the thread because I'd like to know when it started. It's obvious it was for financial gain. It's still so bad that your average person believes they need to eat 5-6 small meals per day. This is not true at all. 1-2 is enough if you're eating the right food. You'll be ripped and healthy and if you want more size extend the eating window an hour or 2 and eat more of the right food but in order to maintain health you must fast intermittently.  Your "Break Fast" should be Dinner. So Break Fast truly is the most important meal of the day.  ;)

When you don't fast you miss out on all the health benefits. The open and 212 bodybuilders today eat too much and take too many drugs and we're forced to accept the look as progress.
Title: Re: When did this eat 6x a day BS come in to play?
Post by: che on July 28, 2018, 06:20:14 AM
Better digestion as well as better assimilation as long as meals are not overly large.

Listen to this man ,he knows his shit


So here's the deal fellas.  You don't need to eat more than once per day.  So all that crazy talk that Hershall Walker was talking wasn't crazy talk. If you consume a nutrient dense meal during intermittent fasting, you'll drop excess fat, maintain your muscle and will be able to train like a madman. You'll be the best version of yourself and not only be fit, but be HEALTHY. So how do you put on muscle?  1. You extend your eating window during the intermittent fasting and eat a little more.  BUT you don't eat 6 times per day unless you're on all the drugs the open and 212 guys are on. Eating ANYTHING raises your insulin levels.  Even protein.  Even protein. Even protein. When your insulin levels are raised or spiked your body stores fat. It's not burning it. Studies have shown that eating 1-2 times per day vs. 6 has no effect on metabolism and this why I titled the the thread because I'd like to know when it started. It's obvious it was for financial gain. It's still so bad that your average person believes they need to eat 5-6 small meals per day. This is not true at all. 1-2 is enough if you're eating the right food. You'll be ripped and healthy and if you want more size extend the eating window an hour or 2 and eat more of the right food but in order to maintain health you must fast intermittently.  Your "Break Fast" should be Dinner. So Break Fast truly is the most important meal of the day.  ;)

When you don't fast you miss out on all the health benefits. The open and 212 bodybuilders today eat too much and take too many drugs and we're forced to accept the look as progress.

Don't  take dieting advice from a skinny or a fat person
Title: Re: When did this eat 6x a day BS come in to play?
Post by: Kwon on July 28, 2018, 06:43:54 AM
What did Eugene Sandow and the rest of that era eat?
Title: Re: When did this eat 6x a day BS come in to play?
Post by: The Scott on July 28, 2018, 06:47:56 AM
What did Eugene Sandow and the rest of that era eat?


http://physicalculturist.ca/old-time-strongman-diets/

Good reading.
Title: Re: When did this eat 6x a day BS come in to play?
Post by: Wiggs on July 28, 2018, 06:57:23 AM
Listen to this man ,he knows his shit


Don't  take dieting advice from a skinny or a fat person


How is eating more better for digestion?  Eating less is better for digestion.  Cut the bro science bullshit and open a book or is that too much to ask of a male stripper?
Title: Re: When did this eat 6x a day BS come in to play?
Post by: jaejonna on July 28, 2018, 07:03:46 AM
If you had to plan for 6 meals then you needed in essence 6 recipes...you would have to get those recipes from somewhere right ? It was all done to sell magazines ..... the same place where you found out how to get ripped for summer and add three inches to your arms in less than 5 weeks... lol
Title: Re: When did this eat 6x a day BS come in to play?
Post by: che on July 28, 2018, 07:09:49 AM
How is eating more better for digestion?  Eating less is better for digestion.  Cut the bro science bullshit and open a book or is that too much to ask of a male stripper?

Keep doing what you are doing my friend , you are 40 years old still trying to figure out this (working out-dieting) thing , I figured it out 20 years ago.
Title: Re: When did this eat 6x a day BS come in to play?
Post by: Wiggs on July 28, 2018, 07:36:09 AM
Keep doing what you are doing my friend , you are 40 years old still trying to figure out this (working out-dieting) thing , I figured it out 20 years ago.

I'm 39 and I've got it figured out. So much so, it's now a part of my career. What you have figured out is your body.  I've figured out everyones.
Title: Re: When did this eat 6x a day BS come in to play?
Post by: Go 4 It on July 28, 2018, 07:41:05 AM
If you are hungry eat, thirsty drink, listen to your body, if i eat a giant meal i feel sluggish and tired.  Can you thrive on 1 meal a day,  sure..Serge Nubret is a perfect example of that. You have to listen to your body and its signals.
Title: Re: When did this eat 6x a day BS come in to play?
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 28, 2018, 07:52:25 AM
When you don't fast you miss out on all the health benefits. The open and 212 bodybuilders today eat too much and take too many drugs and we're forced to accept the look as progress.

Yeah, maybe they should hire you, instead of hiring Aceto, Rambod, Farah, etc ::)
Title: Re: When did this eat 6x a day BS come in to play?
Post by: The Scott on July 28, 2018, 07:55:00 AM
If you are hungry eat, thirsty drink, listen to your body, if i eat a giant meal i feel sluggish and tired.  Can you thrive on 1 meal a day,  sure..Serge Nubret is a perfect example of that. You have to listen to your body and its signals.

Well stated and for the greater part of the population, true.  That caveat is there simply because some people are just stupid and stuff their faces because they want to.

As with liberals, the reason many fat/out of shape people are blind is because they shut their eyes of their own free will.  A calorie is just that - a calorie.  It's what you do with it that determines it's value, if you will.  A calorie.  Energy either expended or stored.  Not the nutritional value of an item, just how many calories it provides.  There is a distinction.

You don't have to wear a lab coat to be able to know that if you take in more than you use, you're going to get fat..er.  Hand me the phone. ;)
Title: Re: When did this eat 6x a day BS come in to play?
Post by: seCrawler on July 28, 2018, 08:02:11 AM
Were they eating this often in the 80s?  Did it start during the Dorian era?

Jay Cutler.   
Title: Re: When did this eat 6x a day BS come in to play?
Post by: TheGrinch on July 28, 2018, 08:07:47 AM
Genetics trumps all....


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Title: Re: When did this eat 6x a day BS come in to play?
Post by: TheGrinch on July 28, 2018, 08:12:52 AM

http://physicalculturist.ca/old-time-strongman-diets/

Good reading.

So from that link I gather all the meat eaters are fat ass powerlifters and the fruits/nuts people are lean and muscular?


That's what I'm seeing there
Title: Re: When did this eat 6x a day BS come in to play?
Post by: The Scott on July 28, 2018, 08:19:22 AM
So from that link I gather all the meat eaters are fat ass powerlifters and the fruits/nuts people are lean and muscular?


That's what I'm seeing there


What you are seeing there (with regard to Sandow and other early strongmen) is men that trained without drugs, bench/squat/deadlift suits or any other such nonsense.  Their diets were their own.  Tailored to their wants and needs and for the greater part, honest in their words regarding their regimen and way of life.  Contrast them with a slob like Coleman.  He's as honest as Maxine Waters but at least twice as smart.

Title: Re: When did this eat 6x a day BS come in to play?
Post by: Primemuscle on July 28, 2018, 11:22:05 AM
If you are hungry eat, thirsty drink, listen to your body, if i eat a giant meal i feel sluggish and tired.  Can you thrive on 1 meal a day,  sure..Serge Nubret is a perfect example of that. You have to listen to your body and its signals.

Couldn't agree more. A lot of folk refuse to hear what their bodies are trying to tell them....sad.
Title: Re: When did this eat 6x a day BS come in to play?
Post by: Primemuscle on July 28, 2018, 11:23:34 AM
Genetics trumps all....


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Is this actually just an excuse???
Title: Re: When did this eat 6x a day BS come in to play?
Post by: Zillotch on July 28, 2018, 11:25:08 AM
Genetics trumps all....

by far... the genetically challenged might as well eat a bullet
Title: Re: When did this eat 6x a day BS come in to play?
Post by: Go 4 It on July 28, 2018, 11:33:08 AM
Give this a shot, just intermittent fast all day and have this as your 1 meal, see how it goes for a month and report back.

Title: Re: When did this eat 6x a day BS come in to play?
Post by: Coffeed on July 28, 2018, 11:44:01 AM
One long IV drip to hit your true potential.
Title: Re: When did this eat 6x a day BS come in to play?
Post by: Parker on July 28, 2018, 03:00:24 PM
There were guys that were using more frequent feedings, up to 6+ a day, going all the way back to 1800's. The big difference was that it wasn't pushed as the right thing to do, it was just another way to eat. The big push to make it seem like you must eat 5 or 6x came with the supplement companies, particularly in the early 90's when easy mixing protein powders and MRP packets came into being.




Oh, and 1 gram of protein per body weight as well. This was pushed in the mags as gospel.
Title: Re: When did this eat 6x a day BS come in to play?
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on July 28, 2018, 04:41:52 PM
It tied into their insulin shots. 
Title: Re: When did this eat 6x a day BS come in to play?
Post by: WalterWhite on July 28, 2018, 06:06:39 PM
If you are hungry eat, thirsty drink, listen to your body, if i eat a giant meal i feel sluggish and tired.  Can you thrive on 1 meal a day,  sure..Serge Nubret is a perfect example of that. You have to listen to your body and its signals.

This.
Title: Re: When did this eat 6x a day BS come in to play?
Post by: mazrim on July 29, 2018, 10:48:02 AM
When you break these into smaller feedings, I'm sure you'll feel much better, not to mention increase the thermic effect of eating, so in theory if you can break that 5,000 calories into even 8 meals, it would be even better.
You look great but you are really into the myths of bodybuilding.
Title: Re: When did this eat 6x a day BS come in to play?
Post by: Go 4 It on July 29, 2018, 11:08:54 AM
You look great but you are really into the myths of bodybuilding.
The thermic effect of food (TEF) is the amount of energy required to digest and process the food you eat.
It’s also referred to as “specific dynamic action” and “thermogenesis,” and research shows that it accounts for approximately 10% of total daily energy expenditure. Every time you eat your body has to use energy to break down and digest the food, how is this a myth? It's science, however which type of foods you decide to eat is the key. You really want to speed up some ones metabolism and increase weight loss? Lets say you are eating at a deficit and you are taking in 3000 calories, instead of eating these calories over 5 meals break them down to even smaller meals and more frequent feedings to 8. Guarantee this increase feedings will warrant more weight loss.
Title: Re: When did this eat 6x a day BS come in to play?
Post by: Ted SuperSet on July 30, 2018, 01:22:59 PM
i agree 6x a day is bs, this is better

meal 1 proteinshake
meal 2 breakfast
meal 3 pre-workout snack
meal 4 during training snack
meal 5 post-workout proteinshake
meal 6 lunch
meal 7 afternoon snack
meal 8 dinner
meal 9 evening snack
meal 10 slow digesting protein before bed shake
meal 11 up in the middle of the night, just in case, protein shake



Lol I did this for a couple of years. In the end i could not eat anything without hurling, to much force feeding,  and shrunk down to a tiny tit in 6 months.
Title: Re: When did this eat 6x a day BS come in to play?
Post by: Brian Poulos on July 30, 2018, 01:32:12 PM
6 meals works because you're getting the thermic effect which burns cals as well as keeping the blood sugar stable. Metabolism is humming. I'm talking 6 meals of chicken, rice and broccoli with a couple of protein shakes thrown in between meals. Meal prep day at the Poulos household is something to behold. ;)
Title: Re: When did this eat 6x a day BS come in to play?
Post by: IroNat on July 30, 2018, 01:39:41 PM
If you eat smaller meals your stomach and gut doesn't get as stretched out as it would if you stuff yourself in 1-3 huge meals.

If you are trying to gain weight you can get more calories in usually by eating more meals every 2-2.5 hours or so

When cutting for a contest more frequent meals takes the edge off your hunger so you don't binge.

These are all reasons why it was done.  Arnold detailed it in his mail order courses.

There is nothing training and diet wise in bodybuilding that has not been done already 50 years ago.

The only thing different is the type and amounts of drugs used.  Plenty of drugs were used in the 60s too.

The thermic effect referred to above was believed to be true years ago.  It was another reason to eat 5-6 meals a day.  Have actual studies been done to prove or disprove it I do not know.



Title: Re: When did this eat 6x a day BS come in to play?
Post by: Ted SuperSet on July 30, 2018, 01:51:56 PM
Became a staple in the 90s and today because of insulin use. Lantus and humalog in morning with breakfast,humulin r 90 mins pre workout with meal,more humalog post workout meal.

Basically log with every meal,or humulin r 3-4x a day and time meals around it

Healthy lifestyle of peace!
Title: Re: When did this eat 6x a day BS come in to play?
Post by: Ted SuperSet on July 30, 2018, 02:06:47 PM

What did Eugene Sandow and the rest of that era eat?



http://physicalculturist.ca/old-time-strongman-diets/

Good reading.

Very good read!!!