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Title: Patriot Prayer, antifa face off in downtown Portland
Post by: Primemuscle on August 04, 2018, 12:51:08 PM
The Portland demonstration is just getting started.

Oregonlive:

Antifa crowd,

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"Gibson is giving interviews to streamers and other folks recording. Told his supporters they’re not here to fight, but to defend themselves if they have to. That’s also what he said last time, although violence broke out anyway."
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https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses/1025820783191289856

Man down. He’s dripping blood from his head. This is serious. He got in a struggle with some black clad dudes over a flag and one of them clubbed him.

https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses/1025828795784167425

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Send in the Clowns! "Unpresidented Brass Band, a marching band created about a year and a half ago in response to the political climate, is organizing the event "Send in the Clowns!" which encourages "colorful folk" to protest Patriot Prayer's Saturday rally."

"I love being colorful and silly," band organizer Miles Thompson said, "and that's something that can really go a long ways towards distracting from violence and towards poking fun at things and making things a little less serious." This group has the right idea, IMO.
 
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These guys look like they mean business

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Title: Re: Patriot Prayer, antifa face off in downtown Portland
Post by: Pray_4_War on August 04, 2018, 05:39:16 PM
Proud Boys are gonna light these fairies up (again) if they start any shit.

Fucking Antifa cowards.
Title: Re: Patriot Prayer, antifa face off in downtown Portland
Post by: Primemuscle on August 04, 2018, 06:02:12 PM
“All people must disperse.” #AllOutPDX pic.twitter.com/BLd9B5JBBt

2:28 PM - Aug 4, 2018

Quote
https://thinkprogress.org/protests-in-portland-oregon-turn-violent-as-anti-fascists-white-nationalists-clash-355b31862858/

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"Stay safe out there.The right has desperately been trying to vilify  ANTIFA inorder to play to the “both sides are violent” narrative,and they’re willing to get their hands dirty.

Right-Wing Groups With Guns Plan to Impersonate and Infiltrate Antifa
Patriot Prayer will rally in Portland, Oregon, on Saturday. Anti-fascists say they’ll be there. It could get very, very ugly."
Title: Re: Patriot Prayer, antifa face off in downtown Portland
Post by: chaos on August 04, 2018, 06:07:25 PM
The right has desperately been trying to vilify  ANTIFA
The fuck out of here with your bullshit. Those bitch ass faggots have been wearing masks and ganging up to attack Trump supporters at every turn. Fuck those guys, I hope all the "right wing extremists" whoop the shit out of those coward pieces of shit.
Title: Re: Patriot Prayer, antifa face off in downtown Portland
Post by: Pray_4_War on August 04, 2018, 06:31:17 PM


"Stay safe out there.The right has desperately been trying to vilify  ANTIFA inorder to play to the “both sides are violent” narrative,and they’re willing to get their hands dirty.

Right-Wing Groups With Guns Plan to Impersonate and Infiltrate Antifa


You are wrong on this topic.  Very wrong.

Title: Re: Patriot Prayer, antifa face off in downtown Portland
Post by: mazrim on August 04, 2018, 06:55:41 PM
They've literally been caught on camera talking about brining shanks, guns, etc. yet it is the right trying to vilify them.
Title: Re: Patriot Prayer, antifa face off in downtown Portland
Post by: Pray_4_War on August 04, 2018, 06:58:30 PM
They've literally been caught on camera talking about brining shanks, guns, etc. yet it is the right trying to vilify them.

Title: Re: Patriot Prayer, antifa face off in downtown Portland
Post by: Pray_4_War on August 04, 2018, 09:12:11 PM
Isn't it interesting that the alleged "NAZIs" are many different races and they are wearing American shirts and carrying American Flags while Antifa is all dressed all in black with their faces covered.

Anyone with even half a brain should be able to tell who the bad guys are here.

Title: Re: Patriot Prayer, antifa face off in downtown Portland
Post by: Primemuscle on August 04, 2018, 09:48:15 PM
Protests converge in Portland, but remain mostly peaceful
Updated 8:47 PM; Posted 7:38 PM

By Kale Williams kwilliams@oregonian.com
The Oregonian/OregonLive

"The protest, billed ostensibly as a rally for free speech and campaign event for Joey Gibson, the leader of Patriot Prayer and Republican U.S. Senatorial candidate from Vancouver, saw hundreds of his supporters, many of whom came from out of state, bussed in from across the border decked out in helmets, crash pads and shields festooned with the Confederate battle flag.

But despite weeks of heated rhetoric, the protest — which was organized by right-wing Patriot Prayer and countered by groups on the left — resulted in little violence between the two groups. Past clashes have quickly devolved to open fistfights and mayhem.

They were met by counter-protesters from a coalition of organizations on the left including a group called Popular Mobilization, which formed recently specifically to counter Gibson's protest, another group dressed up as clowns and a cadre of antifascist activists commonly known as antifa."

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Two very violent ANTIFA seniors.  ;D
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Title: Re: Patriot Prayer, antifa face off in downtown Portland
Post by: Primemuscle on August 04, 2018, 10:01:41 PM
You are wrong on this topic.  Very wrong.



Do I need to explain quotes to you? I can't be wrong because I didn't say this. In fact almost all of what I posted is from people's twitter posts. If I felt the need to add a personal comment, I made it very clear that it was such.

Since some folks like cal everything they don't agree with, 'fake news', I thought it would be more interesting to look at this event from the views of those who actually participate/attended as opposed to news commentators opinions.

Since you ignored the quotes, I guess you've been had.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Patriot Prayer, antifa face off in downtown Portland
Post by: Pray_4_War on August 04, 2018, 10:03:12 PM
Protests converge in Portland, but remain mostly peaceful


They remained mostly peaceful because the police were out in a large show of force and they did their job this time.  They kept Antifa on one side of the street and the Patriots on the other.  It wasn't the antifa suddenly decided to become pacifists.
Title: Re: Patriot Prayer, antifa face off in downtown Portland
Post by: Pray_4_War on August 04, 2018, 10:05:10 PM
Do I need to explain quotes to you? I can't be wrong because I didn't say this. In fact almost all of what I posted is from people's twitter posts. If I felt the need to add a personal comment, I made it very clear that it was such.

Since some folks like cal everything they don't agree with, 'fake news', I thought it would be more interesting to look at this event from the views of those who actually participate/attended as opposed to news commentators opinions.

Since you ignored the quotes, I guess you've been had.  ;D ;D ;D

So you agree with me then?
Title: Re: Patriot Prayer, antifa face off in downtown Portland
Post by: Primemuscle on August 04, 2018, 10:06:39 PM


It looks as if you are the only one who posted a video which is not from today's rally in Portland.  ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Patriot Prayer, antifa face off in downtown Portland
Post by: Pray_4_War on August 04, 2018, 10:15:10 PM
It looks as if you are the only one who posted a video which is not from today's rally in Portland.  ??? ??? ???

I know that's not from today, I posted it as supporting evidence for this post........

They've literally been caught on camera talking about brining shanks, guns, etc. yet it is the right trying to vilify them.
Title: Re: Patriot Prayer, antifa face off in downtown Portland
Post by: Primemuscle on August 04, 2018, 10:19:29 PM
So you agree with me then?

I'd have to look back at my comments in this thread, but it seems highly unlikely we agree, since you have a position/bias on this matter and I do not. All I see is a bunch of activists in sometimes angry discourse on the streets of Portland today at a rally. Reminds me of the protesters in the 60's, only this time it's less violent, thank goodness.

I think I already mentioned this, but my favorite part of today's rally is the clowns.....you know, the one's actually wearing clown clothing. All those other 'clowns' with axes to grind are just ridiculous regardless of which group they represent.

While all this was going on, I was safe at home 12 miles away, pretending to be a stone mason. I tore up part of the cement paver patio in the backyard, leveled it and reinstalled the pavers.  Now that's something to be proud of.  ;) I'm so tired and sore, I didn't need to go to the gym since I've already had a good workout.
Title: Re: Patriot Prayer, antifa face off in downtown Portland
Post by: Primemuscle on August 04, 2018, 10:23:53 PM
I know that's not from today, I posted it as supporting evidence for this post........


Sure, I get it. I'm not sure you did though. I think you missed the real point of this thread. Again, it was meant as an opportunity to hear from and see the people first hand before the media jumped in and turned everything into 'fake news'. 
Title: Re: Patriot Prayer, antifa face off in downtown Portland
Post by: Primemuscle on August 04, 2018, 10:27:46 PM
The fuck out of here with your bullshit. Those bitch ass faggots have been wearing masks and ganging up to attack Trump supporters at every turn. Fuck those guys, I hope all the "right wing extremists" whoop the shit out of those coward pieces of shit.

It never ceases to surprise me that you can be so dense. It's not my bullshit. The comments are in quotes because it's someone else's bullshit....if it's bullshit at all.
Title: Re: Patriot Prayer, antifa face off in downtown Portland
Post by: Pray_4_War on August 04, 2018, 10:30:05 PM
Prime - If you want to feign indifference on this subject then go ahead, but....

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Title: Re: Patriot Prayer, antifa face off in downtown Portland
Post by: Primemuscle on August 04, 2018, 10:36:18 PM
Prime - If you want to feign indifference on this subject then go ahead, but....

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That's your choice. I watched the videos and read the comments before I posted them. I tried to present all sides. It may seem like indifference to you, but it's not. I'm just not interested in taking sides with one fringe group or the other because extremists are impassioned crazy people no matter where they stand on any issue.
Title: Re: Patriot Prayer, antifa face off in downtown Portland
Post by: Pray_4_War on August 04, 2018, 10:42:21 PM
That's your choice. I watched the videos and read the comments before I posted them. I tried to present all sides. It may seem like indifference to you, but it's not. I'm just not interested in taking sides with one fringe group or the other because extremists are impassioned crazy people no matter where they stand on any issue.

...and I'm arguing that the only extremists are Antifa.  There is nothing extreme about loving the United States and appreciating the President.
Title: Re: Patriot Prayer, antifa face off in downtown Portland
Post by: Primemuscle on August 04, 2018, 11:19:24 PM
...and I'm arguing that the only extremists are Antifa.  There is nothing extreme about loving the United States and appreciating the President.

Of course there isn't anything extreme about loving your country and appreciating your president (when they deserve it). Setting up and attending rallies with a sure promise of violence and hateful demonstrations is extreme, which is why it is a fringe/crazy activity regardless of the position of the participants. Believe what you want, but it's impossible to have a fight unless there are opposing sides. Fighting with yourself is really really crazy!  :)
Title: Re: Patriot Prayer, antifa face off in downtown Portland
Post by: mazrim on August 05, 2018, 04:37:21 AM
So Prime gets upset at being misunderstood with his position supposedly. Rambles about how he is presenting both sides of the issue and how people call everything fake news and what he is posting is correct and true. Shown video evidence that he is full of it/lacks any knowledge on the matter and then acknowledges that what he was upset at is actually what he believes. Huh?
Title: Re: Patriot Prayer, antifa face off in downtown Portland
Post by: chaos on August 05, 2018, 07:50:43 AM
It never ceases to surprise me that you can be so dense. It's not my bullshit. The comments are in quotes because it's someone else's bullshit....if it's bullshit at all.
Then I'd suggest you learn how to quote properly.
And it's all bullshit. Antifa has been violent since their inception, attacking anyone and everyone that disagrees with their retarded views. They hide their faces and attack in packs, they're nothing but lowlife, scumbag cowards.
Title: Re: Patriot Prayer, antifa face off in downtown Portland
Post by: Pray_4_War on August 05, 2018, 01:07:56 PM
So Prime gets upset at being misunderstood with his position supposedly. Rambles about how he is presenting both sides of the issue and how people call everything fake news and what he is posting is correct and true. Shown video evidence that he is full of it/lacks any knowledge on the matter and then acknowledges that what he was upset at is actually what he believes. Huh?

This man gets it.
Title: Re: Patriot Prayer, antifa face off in downtown Portland
Post by: Primemuscle on August 05, 2018, 02:43:42 PM
Then I'd suggest you learn how to quote properly.
And it's all bullshit. Antifa has been violent since their inception, attacking anyone and everyone that disagrees with their retarded views. They hide their faces and attack in packs, they're nothing but lowlife, scumbag cowards.

Perhaps you're right about the quotes. I neglected to cite who said it....ya' know, like their Twitter handle. Come on, when something has quotation marks around it, it's a quote. It'd be really strange to quote oneself in this type of non-academic situation.

Believe what you want about Antifa, it makes no difference to me. All I know is there has to be more than one impassioned opinion/perspective to fuel aggressive and violent combat.
Title: Re: Patriot Prayer, antifa face off in downtown Portland
Post by: Primemuscle on August 05, 2018, 02:48:48 PM
So Prime gets upset at being misunderstood with his position supposedly. Rambles about how he is presenting both sides of the issue and how people call everything fake news and what he is posting is correct and true. Shown video evidence that he is full of it/lacks any knowledge on the matter and then acknowledges that what he was upset at is actually what he believes. Huh?

Don't think I ever said it was true. Since almost none of the comments were mine, there is no way I or anyone else can know if they are true accept for the folks who originally posted the comments, videos and pictures of this particular conflict. Just for the record, I wasn't nor am I now upset. That's something you invented.
Title: Re: Patriot Prayer, antifa face off in downtown Portland
Post by: chaos on August 05, 2018, 02:55:37 PM
All I know is there has to be more than one impassioned opinion/perspective to fuel aggressive and violent combat.
Not true. One side has been peaceful throughout all of this until they are attacked, forced to defend themselves, care to guess which side? Not the side that has consistently rioted and destroyed buildings, cars and businesses.
Title: Re: Patriot Prayer, antifa face off in downtown Portland
Post by: Primemuscle on August 05, 2018, 04:06:42 PM
Not true. One side has been peaceful throughout all of this until they are attacked, forced to defend themselves, care to guess which side? Not the side that has consistently rioted and destroyed buildings, cars and businesses.  

Whatever. Doesn't one side always attack the other before a fight breaks out?

As to which side is the aggressor, I'm not interested in arguing with you about this because it makes no difference. Here's what I know about Saturday's Portland rally, Joey Gibson, leader/founder of the Patriot Prayers set it up and advertised it well.

Gibson For Senate Freedom March
Public · Hosted by Patriot Prayer and Joey Gibson For U.S. Senate - https://www.facebook.com/events/276767749553666/ (https://www.facebook.com/events/276767749553666/)

“We need to go straight into hell with our brothers, with our sisters, having each others’ backs and putting out the fires,” declared Gibson, in a Facebook video promoting the march near Portland’s Willamette River. “Bringing light into these cities.” Joey Gibson.

Both current Oregon U.S. Senator's are Democrats. They are Jeff Merkley and Ron Wyden. Democrats vastly outnumber republicans in the Portland metro area, which is where the bulk of Oregon's population lives.


Title: Re: Patriot Prayer, antifa face off in downtown Portland
Post by: chaos on August 05, 2018, 04:31:59 PM
Whatever. ::)
Title: Re: Patriot Prayer, antifa face off in downtown Portland
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 06, 2018, 04:38:55 AM
The leftist faggets and pansies and drug addicted communist losers without jobs have no idea and clue that millions of us are and will join in on this if need be and will squash all of them like little bugs with little problem or effort. 

Most of us are at the stage where we just laugh and mock these mentally deranged and sick liberal layabouts and chooming mini-obamas   
Title: Re: Patriot Prayer, antifa face off in downtown Portland
Post by: Primemuscle on August 06, 2018, 12:13:48 PM
The leftist faggets and pansies and drug addicted communist losers without jobs have no idea and clue that millions of us are and will join in on this if need be and will squash all of them like little bugs with little problem or effort. 

Most of us are at the stage where we just laugh and mock these mentally deranged and sick liberal layabouts and chooming mini-obamas   

Most of who...who is us?

Title: Re: Patriot Prayer, antifa face off in downtown Portland
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 06, 2018, 12:29:13 PM
Most of who...who is us?



You know who exactly.   One of me or chaos is equal to at least 20 of these pathetic weak loser liberal fags

At least -if we were ever forced to this mess - would not be pretty at all for the communist rabble greedy dirty worthless garbage pale progressive maggots
Title: Re: Patriot Prayer, antifa face off in downtown Portland
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 06, 2018, 12:37:10 PM
Whatever. Doesn't one side always attack the other before a fight breaks out?

As to which side is the aggressor, I'm not interested in arguing with you about this because it makes no difference. Here's what I know about Saturday's Portland rally, Joey Gibson, leader/founder of the Patriot Prayers set it up and advertised it well.

Gibson For Senate Freedom March
Public · Hosted by Patriot Prayer and Joey Gibson For U.S. Senate - https://www.facebook.com/events/276767749553666/ (https://www.facebook.com/events/276767749553666/)

“We need to go straight into hell with our brothers, with our sisters, having each others’ backs and putting out the fires,” declared Gibson, in a Facebook video promoting the march near Portland’s Willamette River. “Bringing light into these cities.” Joey Gibson.

Both current Oregon U.S. Senator's are Democrats. They are Jeff Merkley and Ron Wyden. Democrats vastly outnumber republicans in the Portland metro area, which is where the bulk of Oregon's population lives.




99.9% of the time it's the left (fascists) that are the aggressors. If someone instigates an attack, do they not have the right to fight back? Quick answer is, of course, then when Antifa gets their asses kicked (EVERYTIME) they whine about it. Antifa shows up, instant violence even though they have NO idea why.
Title: Re: Patriot Prayer, antifa face off in downtown Portland
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 06, 2018, 01:36:53 PM
99.9% of the time it's the left (fascists) that are the aggressors. If someone instigates an attack, do they not have the right to fight back? Quick answer is, of course, then when Antifa gets their asses kicked (EVERYTIME) they whine about it. Antifa shows up, instant violence even though they have NO idea why.

Antifa = antiworkforaliving   

Antifa = antigettingoffwelfare

Antifa = antipayingyourbills 

Antifa = antibeinganadult

Antifa = antisoapandcleaningingse lf

Antifa = antiliftingandworkingout 


In order words Antifa = basically 95% of liberal twinks and losers like obama the losers in the media pajama boy hillcunt pelosi waters sanders warren et al.
Title: Re: Patriot Prayer, antifa face off in downtown Portland
Post by: Thin Lizzy on August 06, 2018, 02:06:42 PM
Most of who...who is us?



Colby Covington is from your neck of the woods:




Colby Covington, Dana White visit President Donald Trump at White House - MMA Fighting

https://www.mmafighting.com/2018/8/2/17644592/colby-covington-dana-white-visit-president-donald-trump-at-white-house

Title: Re: Patriot Prayer, antifa face off in downtown Portland
Post by: Primemuscle on August 06, 2018, 08:24:51 PM
99.9% of the time it's the left (fascists) that are the aggressors. If someone instigates an attack, do they not have the right to fight back? Quick answer is, of course, then when Antifa gets their asses kicked (EVERYTIME) they whine about it. Antifa shows up, instant violence even though they have NO idea why.

You apparently follow this stuff much more than I do. Who starts the fights and who does or doesn't "get their asses kicked" is of little interest to me. As far as I am concerned they're all crazy stupid throwbacks who never matured or they'd find more productive ways to resolve their differences.
Title: Re: Patriot Prayer, antifa face off in downtown Portland
Post by: Primemuscle on August 06, 2018, 08:28:08 PM
Colby Covington is from your neck of the woods:




Colby Covington, Dana White visit President Donald Trump at White House - MMA Fighting

https://www.mmafighting.com/2018/8/2/17644592/colby-covington-dana-white-visit-president-donald-trump-at-white-house



Maybe I should have known this since they're from around here. I don't follow MMA or its participants.
Title: Re: Patriot Prayer, antifa face off in downtown Portland
Post by: Thin Lizzy on August 07, 2018, 04:22:05 AM
Maybe I should have known this since they're from around here. I don't follow MMA or its participants.

Outed >:(
Title: Re: Patriot Prayer, antifa face off in downtown Portland
Post by: mazrim on August 07, 2018, 09:03:58 AM
You apparently follow this stuff much more than I do. Who starts the fights and who does or doesn't "get their asses kicked" is of little interest to me. As far as I am concerned they're all crazy stupid throwbacks who never matured or they'd find more productive ways to resolve their differences.
Weird making posts about something that doesn't interest you and now (self admittedly) that you don't follow enough to know what is going on.
Title: Re: Patriot Prayer, antifa face off in downtown Portland
Post by: Board_SHERIF on August 07, 2018, 10:11:55 AM
Antifa + Fake News  (CNN etc) = Peoples enemy
Title: Re: Patriot Prayer, antifa face off in downtown Portland
Post by: Primemuscle on August 07, 2018, 11:25:20 AM
Weird making posts about something that doesn't interest you and now (self admittedly) that you don't follow enough to know what is going on.

You're partially right. What doesn't interest me is who did what (started the fight) during these rallies. That what seems like a lot of people think they're solving anything with violence, is worth questioning.