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Title: Cypress Hill is back with some arab influenced music!
Post by: ratherbebig on August 14, 2018, 09:24:17 AM
check it out  8)

Title: Re: Cypress Hill is back with some arab influenced music!
Post by: Kwon on August 14, 2018, 09:28:04 AM
check it out  8)



Don't like it.


This is more like it!
Title: Re: Cypress Hill is back with some arab influenced music!
Post by: Pray_4_War on August 14, 2018, 09:37:41 AM
I like Cypress Hill but I don't find anything about Arabs appealing. 
Title: Re: Cypress Hill is back with some arab influenced music!
Post by: Royalty on August 14, 2018, 12:16:36 PM
I like B-Real. Even in this song. He has a very unique sound. And he is more masculine than today’s rappers. Ever see the current rappers? They too have become feminine.
Title: Re: Cypress Hill is back with some arab influenced music!
Post by: Kwon3 on August 14, 2018, 12:42:45 PM
yeah they tried to reinvent themselves as rap-rock in the late 90s and experimental in the early-mid 2000s plus that cringeworthy What's Your Number love song B Real wrote a while back but their gold records are all from 20+ years ago. I don't see Cypress as relevant anymore or at least not headlining acts at the big shows.
Title: Re: Cypress Hill is back with some arab influenced music!
Post by: Kwon3 on August 14, 2018, 12:49:09 PM
can't beat their third album when you're stoned, though.

Anyway, back to patriotic, pro-Trump music from 30 years ago.

Title: Re: Cypress Hill is back with some arab influenced music!
Post by: Royalty on August 14, 2018, 12:52:07 PM
yeah they tried to reinvent themselves as rap-rock in the late 90s and experimental in the early-mid 2000s plus that cringeworthy What's Your Number love song B Real wrote a while back but their gold records are all from 20+ years ago. I don't see Cypress as relevant anymore or at least not headlining acts at the big shows.

Now, the members of Cypress Hill have to be around age 50. It’s hard to stay relevant to teens and to people in their early 20’s when you are OLDER THAN THEIR PARENTS
Title: Re: Cypress Hill is back with some arab influenced music!
Post by: BB on August 14, 2018, 12:57:46 PM
Not digging it, the beat overpowers the song, this German rapper gets the Arab influence right. It should be backing, not in your face -

.

That being said Cypress is always pretty good.

Title: Re: Cypress Hill is back with some arab influenced music!
Post by: Henda on August 14, 2018, 01:00:17 PM
A music artist being influenced by Arabs is like a perfume manufacturer being infuenced by the smell of shit.
Title: Re: Cypress Hill is back with some arab influenced music!
Post by: Kwon3 on August 14, 2018, 01:33:07 PM
Now, the members of Cypress Hill have to be around age 50. It’s hard to stay relevant to teens and to people in their early 20’s when you are OLDER THAN THEIR PARENTS
Oh yeah, I don't know any rappers or rap groups from 1991 (Cypress's debut) who are still doing it today. Ice Cube, Dre, even Eminem pretty much all retired from rap. Gotta let the new generation in.

But CH are still the first and realest latino group that crossed demographic lines and sold out Lollapalooza and other big shows thanks to their music and respect among fans. It's just their time has passed.
Title: Re: Cypress Hill is back with some arab influenced music!
Post by: ratherbebig on August 14, 2018, 01:43:45 PM
eminem.

14-15 july 2018.

Twickenham Stadium in London, UK

Shows: 2
Number of tickets: 164,000
Sold out: in 1 hour.

Title: Re: Cypress Hill is back with some arab influenced music!
Post by: SOMEPARTS on August 14, 2018, 01:52:01 PM
Worse than Prophets of Rage....says a lot...
Title: Re: Cypress Hill is back with some arab influenced music!
Post by: Parker on August 14, 2018, 02:00:45 PM
Oh yeah, I don't know any rappers or rap groups from 1991 (Cypress's debut) who are still doing it today. Ice Cube, Dre, even Eminem pretty much all retired from rap. Gotta let the new generation in.

But CH are still the first and realest latino group that crossed demographic lines and sold out Lollapalooza and other big shows thanks to their music and respect among fans. It's just their time has passed.
The new gen are mostly talking about pills—oxy, percs, selling drugs, etc, and are generally over the map (It’s a trap).only a few like J Cole and Kendrick Lemar and a couple others don’t really go that route. Bottom line, the new generation of rappers reflects how the Gen X and Y are mired in addictions of many forms.
Title: Re: Cypress Hill is back with some arab influenced music!
Post by: Kwon3 on August 14, 2018, 02:04:34 PM
The new gen are mostly talking about pills—oxy, percs, selling drugs, etc, and are generally over the map (It’s a trap).only a few like J Cole and Kendrick Lemar and a couple others don’t really go that route. Bottom line, the new generation of rappers reflects how the Gen X and Y are mired in addictions of many forms.
the new generation was white hipster with black skin who look and act much cooler than the white kids doing it. But they're not rappers in the strict sense. Personally I like this over regular rap because it's kind of a hybrid of the early days in the sense that they rap about poverty and being trapped in the ghetto, but at the same time they're blinged out and talking about wealth and lambos, like gangsta rap for the late 90s.
Title: Re: Cypress Hill is back with some arab influenced music!
Post by: Al Doggity on August 14, 2018, 02:10:34 PM
The new gen are mostly talking about pills—oxy, percs, selling drugs, etc, and are generally over the map (It’s a trap).only a few like J Cole and Kendrick Lemar and a couple others don’t really go that route. Bottom line, the new generation of rappers reflects how the Gen X and Y are mired in addictions of many forms.

Hip hop just isn't as wholesome as it used to be.
Title: Re: Cypress Hill is back with some arab influenced music!
Post by: ratherbebig on August 14, 2018, 02:15:04 PM
i dont think you guys know a whole lot about hiphop

how can someone claim eminem doesnt rap, when he's selling out more stadiums than any other artist, regardless of genre?

ice cube been performing live every year for at least the last 10 years, with 150+ shows in total

if you dont know what youre talking about, then its probably a good idea to shut up

Title: Re: Cypress Hill is back with some arab influenced music!
Post by: Kwon3 on August 14, 2018, 02:18:43 PM
i dont think you guys know a whole lot about hiphop

how can someone claim eminem doesnt rap, when he's selling out more stadiums than any other artist, regardless of genre?

ice cube been performing live every year for at least the last 10 years, with 150+ shows in total

if you dont know what youre talking about, then its probably a good idea to shut up


Ice Cube discography in the last 12 years (3 albums):

Laugh Now, Cry Later   
Released: June 6, 2006
Label: Lench Mob Records
Format: CD
4   2   46   —   9   63   129   —   33   152   
RIAA: Gold[10]
MC: Gold[12]

Raw Footage   
Released: August 19, 2008
Label: Lench Mob Records
Format: CD
5   1   58   96   14   53   —   —   —   —   

I Am the West   
Released: September 28, 2010
Label: Lench Mob
Format: CD

Eminem discography in the last 12 years (4 albums):

Released: May 15, 2009[69]
Label: Shady, Aftermath, Interscope, Goliath
Format: CD, LP, digital download
1   1   1   1   1   2   1   1   2   1   
WW: 4,400,000[5]
US: 2,363,000[70]
FRA: 69,450[71]
UK: 512,911[38]
RIAA: 2× Platinum[39]
ARIA: Platinum[72]
BEA: Gold[73]
BPI: Platinum[41]
BVMI: Gold[50]
IFPI SWI: Platinum[43]
RIAJ: Gold[74]
RMNZ: Platinum[75]
SNEP: Gold[76]

Recovery   
Released: June 18, 2010[77]
Label: Shady, Aftermath, Interscope, Goliath
Format: CD, LP, digital download
1   1   1   1   1   2   6   1   1   1   
WW: 8,200,000[36]
US: 4,509,000[37]
CAN: 435,000[78]
FRA: 110,000[79]
UK: 900,000[38]
RIAA: 3× Platinum[39]
ARIA: 4× Platinum[80]
BEA: Gold[81]
BPI: 3× Platinum[41]
BVMI: Platinum[50]
IFPI: Platinum[58]
IFPI SWI: Platinum[43]
MC: Platinum[44]
RIAJ: Gold[82]
RMNZ: Platinum[83]
SNEP: Platinum[84]

The Marshall Mathers LP 2   
Released: November 5, 2013
Label: Shady, Aftermath, Interscope, Goliath
Format: CD, LP, digital download
1   1   1   1   2   1   10   1   1   1   
WW: 4,500,000[36]
US: 2,244,000[85]
CAN: 365,000[86]
FR: 160,000[87]
UK: 600,000[88]
RIAA: 4× Platinum[39]
ARIA: 2× Platinum[80]
BEA: Gold[89]
BPI: 2× Platinum[41]
BVMI: Platinum[50]
IFPI SWI: Platinum[43]
MC: 4× Platinum[44]
RMNZ: Platinum[90]
SNEP: Platinum[87]

Revival   
Released: December 15, 2017[91]
Label: Shady, Aftermath, Interscope, Goliath
Format: CD, LP, digital download





Wow, 2-3 albums in the last 12 years, yeah these guys are clearly in their prime.

Concerts don't mean shit, bands from the 80s still do them yet havent sold an album in 30 years. Record sales are pretty much the only thing that matters.
Title: Re: Cypress Hill is back with some arab influenced music!
Post by: ratherbebig on August 14, 2018, 02:25:54 PM

there's no record sales any more, the money is in the touring. in other words, you could not be more wrong.

and when eminem sells out 164 000 seats in minutes for 2 shows, that's money.

Title: Re: Cypress Hill is back with some arab influenced music!
Post by: Kwon3 on August 14, 2018, 02:42:24 PM
there's no record sales any more, the money is in the touring. in other words, you could not be more wrong.

and when eminem sells out 164 000 seats in minutes for 2 shows, that's money.


There's this new invention called the Internet. It lets you download the albums instead of buying them at CD shops. They still grade those downloads the same as record sales. iTunes is one major marketplace where this is done, but there's others like Spotify. Tell Taylor Swift that her multi-platinum album sales aren't real or paying anything. Pretty sure they paid for her mansions and her cars.

Touring is a bonus, it supports an album and is definitely a cash draw, and it helps keep them on the map if they aren't releasing music anymore; but most people who buy their music don't go to live concerts and setting them up costs a fortune (roadies, technicians, security staff, hotels, planes, leasing fees for the venue, ticket sales to Ticketmaster or other providers), which cuts into profits in a way making a record doesn't (other than paying the production staff and giving the label its cut).
Title: Re: Cypress Hill is back with some arab influenced music!
Post by: ratherbebig on August 14, 2018, 02:47:33 PM
There's this new invention called the Internet. It lets you download the albums instead of buying them at CD shops. They still grade those downloads the same as record sales. iTunes is one major marketplace where this is done, but there's others like Spotify. Tell Taylor Swift that here multi-platinum album sales aren't real or paying anything.

Touring is a bonus, definitely a cash draw, and it helps keep them on the map in a way, but most people who buy their music don't go to concerts and setting them up costs a fortune, which cuts into profits in a way making a record doesn't (other than paying the production staff and giving the label its cut).


yeah i hard about the internet and what it did with the record industry when people realized they could get music for free. im susprised you havent.

this is going nowhere, you're clueless.
Title: Re: Cypress Hill is back with some arab influenced music!
Post by: Kwon3 on August 14, 2018, 02:49:16 PM

yeah i hard about the internet and what it did with the record industry when people realized they could get music for free. im susprised you havent.

this is going nowhere, you're clueless.

Like I said, people who support the artist don't get the music for free weeks or months after it's released. They buy their albums when they become available through streaming services or download them. This actually makes MORE money for the artist because unlike in the age of cassettes and CDs, there's no need for packaging or distribution costs. Regular CDs are still pressed but in much smaller numbers, which cuts overheads.

The numbers are there for you to look at when you're done being a gimmicky contrarian dipshit.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/week-album-sales-taylor-swift-68669 (https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/week-album-sales-taylor-swift-68669)
Title: Re: Cypress Hill is back with some arab influenced music!
Post by: ratherbebig on August 14, 2018, 02:53:23 PM
Like I said, people who support the artist don't get the music for free weeks or months after it's released. They buy their albums through streaming services or download them. The numbers are there for you to look at when you're done being a gimmicky contrarian dipshit.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/week-album-sales-taylor-swift-68669 (https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/week-album-sales-taylor-swift-68669)

but it doesnt generate the same money for the artist.

in this thread you so far been wrong 100%

you know nothing about rap.
you claim its for young guys.
you claim artists dont tour, or are relevant, or dont sell, or theres no money in concerts.
etc etc

its quite an achivement to get every single thing wrong. makes you wonder how much else youre totally wrong about on getbig, just pulling shit outta your ass.

Title: Re: Cypress Hill is back with some arab influenced music!
Post by: Kwon3 on August 14, 2018, 02:54:05 PM
but it doesnt generate the same money for the artist.

in this thread you so far been wrong 100%

you know nothing about rap.
you claim its for young guys.
you claim artists dont tour, or are relevant, or dont sell, or theres no money in concerts.
etc etc

its quite an achivement to get every single thing wrong. makes you wonder how much else youre totally wrong about on getbig, just pulling shit outta your ass.


That's your perception, but you haven't disproven anything I wrote. Which is classic gimmick behavior, bait & hook. Once I shut you down with links and facts, you've got nothing left but hot air and ad hominems. Same old 2-step. Didn't mention anything about young guys, you came up with that all by your gimmicky self.
Title: Re: Cypress Hill is back with some arab influenced music!
Post by: Parker on August 14, 2018, 02:56:29 PM
the new generation was white hipster with black skin who look and act much cooler than the white kids doing it. But they're not rappers in the strict sense. Personally I like this over regular rap because it's kind of a hybrid of the early days in the sense that they rap about poverty and being trapped in the ghetto, but at the same time they're blinged out and talking about wealth and lambos, like gangsta rap for the late 90s.

Pills and automobiles. Gangsta rap fizzled out,  Late 90s brought the Playa/Balla, materialism . Biggie and Puffy talking about money, Lexuses, threesomes, etc. Even The Roots did a satire vid that called this out. This was part time of the “Conscious rap” That has all but disappeared.
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However, I do like how Jacquees is bringing that 90s early 2000s R&B hip hop hybrid, that reminds me of Jodeci.
Title: Re: Cypress Hill is back with some arab influenced music!
Post by: ratherbebig on August 14, 2018, 02:57:57 PM
"Concerts don't mean shit, bands from the 80s still do them yet havent sold an album in 30 years. Record sales are pretty much the only thing that matters." - Kwon3


The Richest Artists In the World Make 75%+ of Their Money from Touring

 "despite the rise of streaming in the music industry, the richest artists still make the majority of their cash from touring."

"Beyonce took the top crown as the highest-grossing artist of 2016.  She earned a whopping $62.1 million.  From sales alone, she earned $4.3 million. $1.9 million came in from streaming. Another $1.3 million from publishing.  From touring, however, Beyonce earned $54.7 million. This accounts for slightly over 88% of the total amount that she made in 2016."

Title: Re: Cypress Hill is back with some arab influenced music!
Post by: ratherbebig on August 14, 2018, 02:59:28 PM
Didn't mention anything about young guys, you came up with that all by your gimmicky self.

"Gotta let the new generation in." - Kwon3

this, senile poster, or shared gimmick account, cant even remember what he posted hours ago...
Title: Re: Cypress Hill is back with some arab influenced music!
Post by: Kwon3 on August 14, 2018, 03:01:03 PM
Rap has evolved many times since the late 70s but its current state is one in which guys who mumble and wear skinny jeans can get 50,000,000 views and someone like Chuck D is virtually unknown to anyone who's never heard rap before 1995. Pretty sad. All autotune and sinister sound effects.



Title: Re: Cypress Hill is back with some arab influenced music!
Post by: Kwon3 on August 14, 2018, 03:01:51 PM
"Gotta let the new generation in." - Kwon3

this, senile poster, or shared gimmick account, cant even remember what he posted hours ago...

What does that have to do with young guys? A new generation of rap doesn't mean they're young rappers, hell Future and Ty dolla are in their mid-30s. You clearly need a dictionary on top of a spine and a real account, you chronic cock smoker.
Title: Re: Cypress Hill is back with some arab influenced music!
Post by: Kwon3 on August 14, 2018, 03:05:58 PM
"Concerts don't mean shit, bands from the 80s still do them yet havent sold an album in 30 years. Record sales are pretty much the only thing that matters." - Kwon3


The Richest Artists In the World Make 75%+ of Their Money from Touring

 "despite the rise of streaming in the music industry, the richest artists still make the majority of their cash from touring."

"Beyonce took the top crown as the highest-grossing artist of 2016.  She earned a whopping $62.1 million.  From sales alone, she earned $4.3 million. $1.9 million came in from streaming. Another $1.3 million from publishing.  From touring, however, Beyonce earned $54.7 million. This accounts for slightly over 88% of the total amount that she made in 2016."


Putting things in quotes doesn't make them true. But I wouldn't expect a guy who believes and sees what he wants to see and believe to understand that.
Title: Re: Cypress Hill is back with some arab influenced music!
Post by: ratherbebig on August 14, 2018, 03:07:05 PM
"Eminem pretty much all retired from rap"

 :D

I cant remember when i saw someone so clueless on getbig

this is cluelessness of epic proportions.

and then he goes on and follow up that gem claiming that "touring is a bonus" while beyonce makes 88% of her money from touring.

it just gets better and better!  :D
Title: Re: Cypress Hill is back with some arab influenced music!
Post by: Kwon3 on August 14, 2018, 03:10:41 PM
"Eminem pretty much all retired from rap"

 :D

I cant remember when i saw someone so clueless on getbig

this is cluelessness of epic proportions.

and then he goes on and follow up that gem claiming that "touring is a bonus" while beyonce makes 88% of her money from touring.

it just gets better and better!  :D
And you can't disprove anything I wrote, so by default, you're the loser in this little argument you started. Yeah, facts are hard to overcome when you don't have any.
Title: Re: Cypress Hill is back with some arab influenced music!
Post by: ratherbebig on August 14, 2018, 03:12:18 PM
"I don't know any rappers or rap groups from 1991 (Cypress's debut) who are still doing it today. Ice Cube pretty much all retired from rap."

meanwhile, ice cube performs every year for 13 years straight since 2006  :D



Title: Re: Cypress Hill is back with some arab influenced music!
Post by: Kwon3 on August 14, 2018, 03:13:30 PM
"I don't know any rappers or rap groups from 1991 (Cypress's debut) who are still doing it today. Ice Cube pretty much all retired from rap."

meanwhile, ice cube performs every year for 13 years straight since 2006  :D




Hasn't released an album in 8 years. How is he still at if he has no record deal? Anybody can tour, even an autist like you.
Title: Re: Cypress Hill is back with some arab influenced music!
Post by: ratherbebig on August 14, 2018, 03:17:30 PM
Hasn't released an album in 8 years. How is he still at if he has no record deal? Anybody can tour, even an autist like you.

so a rapper isnt really rapping unless he's rapping on a recording?

Title: Re: Cypress Hill is back with some arab influenced music!
Post by: ratherbebig on August 14, 2018, 03:19:24 PM
And you can't disprove anything I wrote, so by default, you're the loser in this little argument you started. Yeah, facts are hard to overcome when you don't have any.

its not hard to look up the fact that beyonce (alone or together with jay z) and eminem (alone or together with rihanna) sells a shitload of tickets and make them a shitload of money. to claim touring is just a bonus and that theres no money in touring is up there with the flat earth theory.
Title: Re: Cypress Hill is back with some arab influenced music!
Post by: Kwon3 on August 14, 2018, 03:19:51 PM
so a rapper isnt really rapping unless he's rapping on a recording?


A rapper with no deals is not a rapper anymore, correct. Having a deal and being unsigned are what make the difference between apes in the hood who sing on the corner or record their own beats and the ones who drive luxury cars and get invited to late night shows to perform.
Title: Re: Cypress Hill is back with some arab influenced music!
Post by: Kwon3 on August 14, 2018, 03:20:54 PM
its not hard to look up the fact that beyonce (alone or together with jay z) and eminem (alone or together with rihanna) sells a shitload of tickets and make them a shitload of money. to claim touring is just a bonus and that theres no money in touring is up there with the flat earth theory.
So what? Nobody said touring doesn't pay well. But with no record sales, there's no major tours, either. Most of Cube's shows are in small nightclubs nowadays and he hasn't been on a big tour or TV show just to perform in years. He's an actor, why not talk about his movie career instead? It's doing a lot better than his rap sales.
Title: Re: Cypress Hill is back with some arab influenced music!
Post by: ratherbebig on August 14, 2018, 03:23:35 PM
A rapper with no deals is not a rapper anymore, correct. Having a deal and being unsigned are what make the difference between apes in the hood who sing on the corner or record their own beats and the ones who drive luxury cars and get invited to late night shows to perform.

and yet these rappers keep on touring, worldwide, show after show, city after city, year after year.

so youre obviously wrong.
Title: Re: Cypress Hill is back with some arab influenced music!
Post by: ratherbebig on August 14, 2018, 03:25:23 PM
So what? Nobody said touring doesn't pay well. But with no record sales, there's no major tours, either. Most of Cube's shows are in small nightclubs nowadays and he hasn't been on a big tour or TV show just to perform in years. He's an actor, why not talk about his movie career instead? It's doing a lot better than his rap sales.

actually you said it didnt pay well.

are you sharing your account with others? are you switching every 5 minutes so that the new guy doesnt know what people talked about 10 minutes ago?
Title: Re: Cypress Hill is back with some arab influenced music!
Post by: Zillotch on August 14, 2018, 03:26:59 PM
rap, hip hop... all of that shit is 4 animals. the dumb and degenerate
Title: Re: Cypress Hill is back with some arab influenced music!
Post by: Parker on August 14, 2018, 03:32:29 PM
rap, hip hop... all of that shit is 4 animals. the dumb and degenerate

So, I guess you are a fan of Duke Ellington’s “Satin Doll”?
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Hip hop just isn't as wholesome as it used to be.
There are some gems amongst Trap Music.
Getbig Theme song (drug references)
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Big Mike Theme song “Thick” (no music vid, just the song)
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Title: Re: Cypress Hill is back with some arab influenced music!
Post by: Kwon3 on August 14, 2018, 03:33:54 PM
and yet these rappers keep on touring, worldwide, show after show, city after city, year after year.

so youre obviously wrong.
So does Weird Al, and the 50 people who show up to see him probably think he's awesome too! Doesn't mean he is.
Title: Re: Cypress Hill is back with some arab influenced music!
Post by: Kwon3 on August 14, 2018, 03:34:35 PM
actually you said it didnt pay well.

are you sharing your account with others? are you switching every 5 minutes so that the new guy doesnt know what people talked about 10 minutes ago?

I have no idea what this refers to but yes, you're a gimmick.
Title: Re: Cypress Hill is back with some arab influenced music!
Post by: IRON CROSS on August 14, 2018, 03:44:19 PM
check it out  8)



Falcon (M.Champs) love AC/DC  ???
Title: Re: Cypress Hill is back with some arab influenced music!
Post by: Zillotch on August 14, 2018, 03:46:14 PM
So, I guess you are a fan of Duke Ellington’s “Satin Doll”?
[/youtube] There are some gems amongst Trap Music.

thats better than 'rap'
Title: Re: Cypress Hill is back with some arab influenced music!
Post by: ratherbebig on August 14, 2018, 03:48:00 PM
lots of wiggers in this thread

Title: Re: Cypress Hill is back with some arab influenced music!
Post by: Kwon3 on August 14, 2018, 03:52:18 PM
lots of wiggers in this thread


nah just us.
Title: Re: Cypress Hill is back with some arab influenced music!
Post by: Tapeworm on August 14, 2018, 06:04:21 PM
Now, the members of Cypress Hill have to be around age 50. It’s hard to stay relevant to teens and to people in their early 20’s when you are OLDER THAN THEIR PARENTS

The only misbehavior they can muster at their age is incontinence.  Detained for a pee stain.  Varicose veins.  Where's my cane?
Title: Re: Cypress Hill is back with some arab influenced music!
Post by: Al Doggity on August 14, 2018, 06:22:53 PM

[/youtube] There are some gems amongst Trap Music.
Getbig Theme song (drug references)



There are a lot of good songs all over hip hop these days. At no point in the history of hip hop have "conscious rappers" ever dominated. But as you age, nostalgia goggles tend to filter out the tripe and idealize the good. As it is, you have the greatest varianceof what it means to be a mainstream rapper going on these days. And if the mainstream isn't offering you what you want, it's easier than ever to find it and connect with other people who are into it.
Title: Re: Cypress Hill is back with some arab influenced music!
Post by: Parker on August 14, 2018, 07:06:58 PM

There are a lot of good songs all over hip hop these days. At no point in the history of hip hop have "conscious rappers" ever dominated. But as you age, nostalgia goggles tend to filter out the tripe and idealize the good. As it is, you have the greatest varianceof what it means to be a mainstream rapper going on these days. And if the mainstream isn't offering you what you want, it's easier than ever to find it and connect with other people who are into it.
Public Enemy, X-Clan, Brand Nubians, Kwame (first album), Common, Poor Righteous Teachers, Arrested Development, CL Smooth, Guru, Bahamadia were all more or less “Conscious Rappers”. Many of those did somewhat dominate, some like Arrested Development, was due to cross over appeal (Remember EPMD’s “Crossover”?) But the Gangsta Rap and Materialistic Rap was pushed more. I think Chuck D did a vid on how these genres were marketed to the white middle class, as it sold this fantasy of black angst and struggle. This sold more than Conscious Rap, because the white kids aren’t going to buy music about black folks talking positive about each other.
Title: Re: Cypress Hill is back with some arab influenced music!
Post by: Al Doggity on August 14, 2018, 08:04:40 PM
Some of the people you listed didn't even have real hits, but I didn't say there were no "conscious rappers" who were ever popular. My point is that there was never an era in hip hop where that was the dominant style, so it's not a real thing to say things have gone off-track. If anything, when you look at who the most commercially successful and acclaimed  black rappers are right now, the opposite is true.
Title: Re: Cypress Hill is back with some arab influenced music!
Post by: Stan Diego on August 14, 2018, 08:16:26 PM
Oh yeah, I don't know any rappers or rap groups from 1991 (Cypress's debut) who are still doing it today. Ice Cube, Dre, even Eminem pretty much all retired from rap. Gotta let the new generation in.

Eminem headlined Coachella this year. One of the biggest music festivals in the world. He was the final performer of the 3 day festival. This is an aerial picture taken looking out over the crowd from the top of the stage. Yeah, he's still a bit relevant, and still a bit popular

(https://riotmag.co/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/Coachella.jpg)
Title: Re: Cypress Hill is back with some arab influenced music!
Post by: Kwon3 on August 14, 2018, 08:17:59 PM
Eminem headlined Coachella this year. One of the biggest music festivals in the world. He was the final performer of the 3 day festival. This is an aerial picture taken looking out over the crowd from the top of the stage. Yeah, he's still a bit relevant, and still a bit popular

(https://riotmag.co/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/Coachella.jpg)
We get it, he tours a lot. My follow-up posts clearly intended to show the paucity of album releases on his and others' part, rather than not being active in the industry at all. He's obviously still involved behind the scenes since he owns a record label and does some producing, but in terms of the output he had in the late 90s, that's done.
Title: Re: Cypress Hill is back with some arab influenced music!
Post by: Stan Diego on August 14, 2018, 08:28:31 PM
Concerts don't mean shit

most people who buy their music don't go to live concerts

But with no record sales, there's no major tours

We get it, he tours a lot.
Title: Re: Cypress Hill is back with some arab influenced music!
Post by: Kwon3 on August 14, 2018, 08:44:51 PM
Ice Cube discography in the last 12 years (3 albums):

Laugh Now, Cry Later   
Released: June 6, 2006
Label: Lench Mob Records
Format: CD
4   2   46   —   9   63   129   —   33   152   
RIAA: Gold[10]
MC: Gold[12]

Raw Footage   
Released: August 19, 2008
Label: Lench Mob Records
Format: CD
5   1   58   96   14   53   —   —   —   —   

I Am the West   
Released: September 28, 2010
Label: Lench Mob
Format: CD

Eminem discography in the last 12 years (4 albums):

Released: May 15, 2009[69]
Label: Shady, Aftermath, Interscope, Goliath
Format: CD, LP, digital download
1   1   1   1   1   2   1   1   2   1   
WW: 4,400,000[5]
US: 2,363,000[70]
FRA: 69,450[71]
UK: 512,911[38]
RIAA: 2× Platinum[39]
ARIA: Platinum[72]
BEA: Gold[73]
BPI: Platinum[41]
BVMI: Gold[50]
IFPI SWI: Platinum[43]
RIAJ: Gold[74]
RMNZ: Platinum[75]
SNEP: Gold[76]

Recovery   
Released: June 18, 2010[77]
Label: Shady, Aftermath, Interscope, Goliath
Format: CD, LP, digital download
1   1   1   1   1   2   6   1   1   1   
WW: 8,200,000[36]
US: 4,509,000[37]
CAN: 435,000[78]
FRA: 110,000[79]
UK: 900,000[38]
RIAA: 3× Platinum[39]
ARIA: 4× Platinum[80]
BEA: Gold[81]
BPI: 3× Platinum[41]
BVMI: Platinum[50]
IFPI: Platinum[58]
IFPI SWI: Platinum[43]
MC: Platinum[44]
RIAJ: Gold[82]
RMNZ: Platinum[83]
SNEP: Platinum[84]

The Marshall Mathers LP 2   
Released: November 5, 2013
Label: Shady, Aftermath, Interscope, Goliath
Format: CD, LP, digital download
1   1   1   1   2   1   10   1   1   1   
WW: 4,500,000[36]
US: 2,244,000[85]
CAN: 365,000[86]
FR: 160,000[87]
UK: 600,000[88]
RIAA: 4× Platinum[39]
ARIA: 2× Platinum[80]
BEA: Gold[89]
BPI: 2× Platinum[41]
BVMI: Platinum[50]
IFPI SWI: Platinum[43]
MC: 4× Platinum[44]
RMNZ: Platinum[90]
SNEP: Platinum[87]

Revival   
Released: December 15, 2017[91]
Label: Shady, Aftermath, Interscope, Goliath
Format: CD, LP, digital download





Wow, 2-3 albums in the last 12 years, yeah these guys are clearly in their prime.

Concerts don't mean shit, bands from the 80s still do them yet havent sold an album in 30 years. Record sales are pretty much the only thing that matters.
There's this new invention called the Internet. It lets you download the albums instead of buying them at CD shops. They still grade those downloads the same as record sales. iTunes is one major marketplace where this is done, but there's others like Spotify. Tell Taylor Swift that her multi-platinum album sales aren't real or paying anything. Pretty sure they paid for her mansions and her cars.

Touring is a bonus, it supports an album and is definitely a cash draw, and it helps keep them on the map if they aren't releasing music anymore; but most people who buy their music don't go to live concerts and setting them up costs a fortune (roadies, technicians, security staff, hotels, planes, leasing fees for the venue, ticket sales to Ticketmaster or other providers), which cuts into profits in a way making a record doesn't (other than paying the production staff and giving the label its cut).

Like I said, people who support the artist don't get the music for free weeks or months after it's released. They buy their albums when they become available through streaming services or download them. This actually makes MORE money for the artist because unlike in the age of cassettes and CDs, there's no need for packaging or distribution costs. Regular CDs are still pressed but in much smaller numbers, which cuts overheads.

The numbers are there for you to look at when you're done being a gimmicky contrarian dipshit.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/week-album-sales-taylor-swift-68669 (https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/week-album-sales-taylor-swift-68669)

That's your perception, but you haven't disproven anything I wrote. Which is classic gimmick behavior, bait & hook. Once I shut you down with links and facts, you've got nothing left but hot air and ad hominems. Same old 2-step. Didn't mention anything about young guys, you came up with that all by your gimmicky self.

Hasn't released an album in 8 years. How is he still at if he has no record deal? Anybody can tour, even an autist like you.
Title: Re: Cypress Hill is back with some arab influenced music!
Post by: Kwon3 on August 14, 2018, 08:46:06 PM
I could quote you back your own posts too but I don't want to stress the ratherbebig-stan diego similarity of posting and vendetta-like digging. Your decoy's safe with me, bro.
Title: Re: Cypress Hill is back with some arab influenced music!
Post by: Kwon on August 14, 2018, 11:33:57 PM
The less arabic influences in the world, the better.
Title: Re: Cypress Hill is back with some arab influenced music!
Post by: Kwon_2 on August 14, 2018, 11:35:20 PM
Gotta let the new generation in.
Title: Re: Cypress Hill is back with some arab influenced music!
Post by: Kwon3 on August 14, 2018, 11:36:31 PM
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Title: Re: Cypress Hill is back with some arab influenced music!
Post by: Kwon3 on August 14, 2018, 11:37:15 PM
The less arabic influences in the world, the better.
Title: Re: Cypress Hill is back with some arab influenced music!
Post by: ratherbebig on August 15, 2018, 01:08:11 AM
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Title: Re: Cypress Hill is back with some arab influenced music!
Post by: Parker on August 15, 2018, 03:03:53 AM
Some of the people you listed didn't even have real hits, but I didn't say there were no "conscious rappers" who were ever popular. My point is that there was never an era in hip hop where that was the dominant style, so it's not a real thing to say things have gone off-track. If anything, when you look at who the most commercially successful and acclaimed  black rappers are right now, the opposite is true.
Quite true.
Title: Re: Cypress Hill is back with some arab influenced music!
Post by: Kwon on August 15, 2018, 03:15:09 AM
Public Enema was very popular back in the day.

Title: Re: Cypress Hill is back with some arab influenced music!
Post by: Royalty on August 15, 2018, 06:16:13 AM
Public Enema was very popular back in the day.




Public Enemy had strength and masculinity.


Today’s rappers are weak, feminine, and look like deviants
Title: Re: Cypress Hill is back with some arab influenced music!
Post by: Pray_4_War on August 15, 2018, 06:49:11 AM
Public Enemy used to promote that black supremacist idiot Louis Farrakhan.
Title: Re: Cypress Hill is back with some arab influenced music!
Post by: Royalty on August 15, 2018, 07:48:28 AM
Public Enemy used to promote that black supremacist idiot Louis Farrakhan.

Yes they did. Farrakhan decieved a lot of people in that era. In fact, I believe that Public Enemy almost broke up after anti-Semitic comments started being spoken publicly. The group just ended up firing the group member who made the remarks.

I believe that Public Enemy moved away from that sort of speech after that.
Title: Re: Cypress Hill is back with some arab influenced music!
Post by: Kwon3 on August 15, 2018, 10:32:51 AM
Yes they did. Farrakhan decieved a lot of people in that era. In fact, I believe that Public Enemy almost broke up after anti-Semitic comments started being spoken publicly. The group just ended up firing the group member who made the remarks.

I believe that Public Enemy moved away from that sort of speech after that.
They kicked out Professor Griff for about 15 years because he made anti-Semitic comments in 1989. They're not about racism, but black unity and black power at a time when the black community was very divided and economically in the doldrums (1987-1994). Their albums after that period were less focused on black poverty/drug use and made little or no mention of the Nation of Islam. Ice Cube was photographed at an NOI ceremony in the early 90s and several other rappers associated with the Nation too during that time. But people forget this was almost 30 years ago...they've all moved on by now.
Title: Re: Cypress Hill is back with some arab influenced music!
Post by: youandme on August 15, 2018, 11:15:22 AM
That was terrible, couldn’t last more than 30 seconds and that was too long.
Title: Re: Cypress Hill is back with some arab influenced music!
Post by: Pet shop boys on August 15, 2018, 11:19:02 AM
Medio Loco en el coco   was a great song back in the day




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