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Title: Just look at that bloomin neck
Post by: MoralMan on August 14, 2018, 01:14:31 PM
Wowzers
Title: Re: Just look at that bloomin neck
Post by: Griffith on August 14, 2018, 01:25:06 PM
All neck bridges and barbell shrugs.
Title: Re: Just look at that bloomin neck
Post by: MORTALCOIL on August 14, 2018, 01:28:15 PM
All watermelon and foul language.
Title: Re: Just look at that bloomin neck
Post by: Coffeed on August 14, 2018, 01:34:33 PM
All domestic violence and teenage angst.
Title: Re: Just look at that bloomin neck
Post by: Kwon3 on August 14, 2018, 01:36:46 PM
He was at his very best at around 217 @ 5'11".

His later fights he was anywhere from 235-250 and it didn't suit him, he was a lot slower and didn't punch harder. His top weight was near 300 but that's over, thankfully.

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Title: Re: Just look at that bloomin neck
Post by: Zillotch on August 14, 2018, 01:39:26 PM
(https://www.brawlbros.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/Mike-Tyson-Neck.png)

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Title: Re: Just look at that bloomin neck
Post by: ratherbebig on August 14, 2018, 01:47:28 PM
if you dont get hit you dont need a thick neck

Title: Re: Just look at that bloomin neck
Post by: Parker on August 14, 2018, 02:05:14 PM
All neck bridges and barbell shrugs.
barbell shrugs develop traps more.
Title: Re: Just look at that bloomin neck
Post by: Kwon3 on August 14, 2018, 02:23:00 PM
barbell shrugs develop traps more.
So rare to see these in gyms, which is why you have pencil necked gym rats with monster traps.

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Title: Re: Just look at that bloomin neck
Post by: ratherbebig on August 14, 2018, 02:39:21 PM
maybe most faggits get enough neck work as it is from sucking dick
Title: Re: Just look at that bloomin neck
Post by: plebian on August 14, 2018, 03:01:23 PM
Tyson was an actual genetic freak, not like these guys today where apparently literally everyone involved in the fitness industry is a "genetic freak", really all of you? are you sure?  ::)

Theres a picture of tyson as a 12 or 13 year old with his classmates, and hes already so big he literally looks like an adult teacher standing next to his class of youths.

We're also talking about 15 year old that already had a 200lb lean physique after just year of boxing training, and then further built it up to ~215lbs with just calisthenics and some light weighted shrugs and good mornings. Thats what actual freak gene recombo for muscle gain does.

I remember when he first started training with weights seriously, was on his comeback trail after getting out of prison. His skills had mostly diminished by then (getting rid of rooney didn't help things of course) but his physique became phenomenal for that brief window where he was actually interested in fighting sincerely. He was 230lbs and looked like he was carved from stone, still crazy fast. Sadly that brief spark of inspiration he had post prison didnt last and we all know what happened after knocking off a few cans, becoming a cokehead and don king stealing all his money.

Really sad. If D'amato hadn't died, Tyson might very well have been the greatest fighters to have ever done it. Scary to think what the kid who cleaned out the HW division in the late 80s mightve become if we actually saw him in his prime and with his skills fully matured. Steve Lott always said that very few got to see the best version of mike, which was always in the gym where he was much more relaxed.
Title: Re: Just look at that bloomin neck
Post by: Army of One on August 14, 2018, 06:42:59 PM
Tyson was an actual genetic freak, not like these guys today where apparently literally everyone involved in the fitness industry is a "genetic freak", really all of you? are you sure?  ::)

Theres a picture of tyson as a 12 or 13 year old with his classmates, and hes already so big he literally looks like an adult teacher standing next to his class of youths.

We're also talking about 15 year old that already had a 200lb lean physique after just year of boxing training, and then further built it up to ~215lbs with just calisthenics and some light weighted shrugs and good mornings. Thats what actual freak gene recombo for muscle gain does.

I remember when he first started training with weights seriously, was on his comeback trail after getting out of prison. His skills had mostly diminished by then (getting rid of rooney didn't help things of course) but his physique became phenomenal for that brief window where he was actually interested in fighting sincerely. He was 230lbs and looked like he was carved from stone, still crazy fast. Sadly that brief spark of inspiration he had post prison didnt last and we all know what happened after knocking off a few cans, becoming a cokehead and don king stealing all his money.

Really sad. If D'amato hadn't died, Tyson might very well have been the greatest fighters to have ever done it. Scary to think what the kid who cleaned out the HW division in the late 80s mightve become if we actually saw him in his prime and with his skills fully matured. Steve Lott always said that very few got to see the best version of mike, which was always in the gym where he was much more relaxed.

While he was a freak, my personal belief was he started juicing early.
Title: Re: Just look at that bloomin neck
Post by: tres_taco_combo on August 14, 2018, 09:09:55 PM
Tyson was an actual genetic freak, not like these guys today where apparently literally everyone involved in the fitness industry is a "genetic freak", really all of you? are you sure?  ::)

Theres a picture of tyson as a 12 or 13 year old with his classmates, and hes already so big he literally looks like an adult teacher standing next to his class of youths.

We're also talking about 15 year old that already had a 200lb lean physique after just year of boxing training, and then further built it up to ~215lbs with just calisthenics and some light weighted shrugs and good mornings. Thats what actual freak gene recombo for muscle gain does.

I remember when he first started training with weights seriously, was on his comeback trail after getting out of prison. His skills had mostly diminished by then (getting rid of rooney didn't help things of course) but his physique became phenomenal for that brief window where he was actually interested in fighting sincerely. He was 230lbs and looked like he was carved from stone, still crazy fast. Sadly that brief spark of inspiration he had post prison didnt last and we all know what happened after knocking off a few cans, becoming a cokehead and don king stealing all his money.

Really sad. If D'amato hadn't died, Tyson might very well have been the greatest fighters to have ever done it. Scary to think what the kid who cleaned out the HW division in the late 80s mightve become if we actually saw him in his prime and with his skills fully matured. Steve Lott always said that very few got to see the best version of mike, which was always in the gym where he was much more relaxed.

Steve Lott always said that very few got to see the best version of mike, which was always in the gym where he was much more relaxed.

good post -

some say at his prime he was the best ever
Title: Re: Just look at that bloomin neck
Post by: MoralMan on August 15, 2018, 05:54:23 AM
Steve Lott always said that very few got to see the best version of mike, which was always in the gym where he was much more relaxed.

good post -

some say at his prime he was the best ever


He was prime v prime the best ever.
Title: Re: Just look at that bloomin neck
Post by: chrisbro on August 15, 2018, 05:55:57 AM
All neck bridges and barbell shrugs.

A lot of cock sucking (Don King)
Title: Re: Just look at that bloomin neck
Post by: Rusty Trombone on August 15, 2018, 09:55:36 AM
So rare to see these in gyms, which is why you have pencil necked gym rats with monster traps.

(http://www.ocbodyworks.com/images/PS-216-big.jpg)
(http://cdn3.bigcommerce.com/s-13ttxa/products/16505/images/16464/nautilus-one-four-way-neck-machine__14472.1414625660.380.500.jpg?c=2)

You can do that with a head harness or even just a plate and towel (no homo)
Title: Re: Just look at that bloomin neck
Post by: Rusty Trombone on August 15, 2018, 10:03:04 AM
He was at his very best at around 217 @ 5'11".

His later fights he was anywhere from 235-250 and it didn't suit him, he was a lot slower and didn't punch harder. His top weight was near 300 but that's over, thankfully.

(http://www4.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Spike+TV+2008+Video+Game+Awards+Show+uzjsuimdCh8l.jpg)
(http://www3.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Spike+TV+2008+Video+Game+Awards+Arrivals+T-JyMPNJBVBl.jpg)
(http://stureplansfrancis.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/fat-mike-tyson.jpg)
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_9mNHNOMqaqM/TQDpI30lUCI/AAAAAAAADPg/cA-okhiMLCo/s1600/MikeTyson2009.jpg)


Not bad lats on the old fella.

Was Mike a roider? I'm not familiar.  Heard only the cheque drops story.
Title: Re: Just look at that bloomin neck
Post by: chrisbro on August 15, 2018, 10:04:51 AM

Not bad lats on the old fella.

Was Mike a roider? I'm not familiar.  Heard only the cheque drops story.

Who cares About a Muslim.
Title: Re: Just look at that bloomin neck
Post by: HTexan on August 15, 2018, 10:16:26 AM
maybe most faggits get enough neck work as it is from sucking dick
That is how you got your neck, huh.. tmi.  :-X
Title: Re: Just look at that bloomin neck
Post by: funk51 on August 15, 2018, 10:46:14 AM
a couple of old school neck developers
Title: Re: Just look at that bloomin neck
Post by: plebian on August 15, 2018, 10:50:03 AM

Not bad lats on the old fella.

Was Mike a roider? I'm not familiar.  Heard only the cheque drops story.

Unlikely. He displayed above average muscularity at a very young age, see my previous post in this thread. He was already significantly bigger than his peers at age 13 or 14. At 15 after just one year of bog standard boxing training he was between 200 and 210 lbs very lean.

Now post prison tyson might be a different story. We saw him at 230lbs looking carved from stone. The 1990s seems to be when steroid usage in boxing really took off, with obvious abusers such as evander holyfield who was even peripherally tied to the bust of one of those 'anti aging' drug fronts. Roy Jones Jr was also implicated for testosterone abuse in a story that seems to have evaporated from the internet. Given some of the people he was hanging around with after hooking up with Don King, i certainly wouldn't put it past him to have gotten on the sauce, probably thinking he needed every helping hand he could get to regain his title. That said, tyson in his post boxing life has been remarkably candid about all the dirty shit he got up to, including being high on coke and weed before a fight. He never once mentioned steroids. That doesnt mean he didn't do them of course, but I just find it unlikely.

when you look at tyson's bone structure, he's a true heavyweight in spite of his height. Whereas a lot of the 90s juiceheads were cruiserweights blown up artificially with the drugs, such as holyfield who was a skinny cruiserweight before his miraculous physique transformation credited to a suspicious doctor and physical trainer.

The dead giveaway is usually the fist size. Natural heavyweights have very big hands. Theres a great old video where James Toney's former trainer and mentor talks about why James was delusional about moving up to heavyweight, and points out that his fists are indicative of a natural middleweight, which Toney was until he let his eating disorder get out of control and ballooned up in size, and of course would later also become a steroid user pissing hot once or twice for winny. James was a remarkable fighter in spite of his shortcomings, and even did fairly well at heavyweight for a time, but you can only go so far on talent alone and reality is a 5'9 fat guy just isn't going to be competitive with the roided up giants that started dominating the division in the 2000s.
Title: Re: Just look at that bloomin neck
Post by: Kwon3 on August 15, 2018, 10:50:39 AM
You can do that with a head harness or even just a plate and towel (no homo)
I agree, there's a lot of alternatives to machines.

But in all my years working out at various health clubs as well as hardcore gyms, I've never seen any of those accessories or people training their neck, even if the gym had the machines. Same with forearms. Some people believe the personal trainer dogma that they muscles "train themselves" with other movements. Which is why you see these guys with huge arms with toothpicks below the elbow or tiny necks on huge traps.
Title: Re: Just look at that bloomin neck
Post by: Tennisballz on August 15, 2018, 10:55:03 AM
A thick neck looks rad.  A sign of a strong athletic physique.  I know you can't train a chin, but a thick strong neck defitely helps absorb punishment in a fight.
Title: Re: Just look at that bloomin neck
Post by: Griffith on August 15, 2018, 01:34:15 PM
Tyson did a lot of neck bridges, rocking back and forth and all angles. I read that he did about 10 minutes a day of bridges. He also did heavy barbell shrugs for reps.
Title: Re: Just look at that bloomin neck
Post by: HTexan on August 15, 2018, 02:23:09 PM
A thick neck looks rad.  A sign of a strong athletic physique.  I know you can't train a chin, but a thick strong neck defitely helps absorb punishment in a fight.
Yup, needed for boxing, unless you’re a running bitch like mayweather
Title: Re: Just look at that bloomin neck
Post by: old-school-lifter on August 15, 2018, 07:31:06 PM
I don't think Tyson used steroids

there is very strong suspicion Holyfield did, put on a lot of lean muscle fast training with Haney , and lost his hair in the process
Title: Re: Just look at that bloomin neck
Post by: Kwon3 on August 15, 2018, 07:44:51 PM
I don't think Tyson used steroids

there is very strong suspicion Holyfield did, put on a lot of lean muscle fast training with Haney , and lost his hair in the process
He had the steroid look, especially around the upper chest, traps. neck. Nobody's saying he used IFBB amounts, but any athlete will try to get an edge if they can.

If Carl Lewis was able to cheat his way into a bunch of gold medals across the '80s and '90s with Olympic testing protocols in place, then surely a boxer could, too.

But no one knows for sure. Maybe he really was a lean 218 @ 5'11", even though that would put him in the elite genetics category because his conditioning was also on point.
Title: Re: Just look at that bloomin neck
Post by: Moontrane on August 15, 2018, 08:01:35 PM
A thick neck looks rad.  A sign of a strong athletic physique.  I know you can't train a chin, but a thick strong neck defitely helps absorb punishment in a fight.

I've trained many Orientals, you racist!
Title: Re: Just look at that bloomin neck
Post by: BB on August 15, 2018, 08:15:29 PM
For a big neck, you've got to move those chains -

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ehg2fw0QKeg/Tcf-9TjFPLI/AAAAAAAAAC4/Z5CqrtF1WSA/s1600/brad_neck_train.jpg).
Title: Re: Just look at that bloomin neck
Post by: plebian on August 15, 2018, 08:16:03 PM
He had the steroid look, especially around the upper chest, traps. neck. Nobody's saying he used IFBB amounts, but any athlete will try to get an edge if they can.

If Carl Lewis was able to cheat his way into a bunch of gold medals across the '80s and '90s with Olympic testing protocols in place, then surely a boxer could, too.

But no one knows for sure. Maybe he really was a lean 218 @ 5'11", even though that would put him in the elite genetics category because his conditioning was also on point.

its the immense muscularity at a young age, along with the thick bone structure that makes me think he was a natural (independent of any steroid use that may or may not have taken place later in his career). With roid frauders you see their teenage pics and they're all skinny a twigs, absolutely no sign of any genetic gift towards propensity to build muscle at all. He was already 200-210lbs as a 15 year old, knocking out adult men in the amateurs.
Title: Re: Just look at that bloomin neck
Post by: Kwon3 on August 15, 2018, 08:27:07 PM
its the immense muscularity at a young age, along with the thick bone structure that makes me think he was a natural (independent of any steroid use that may or may not have taken place later in his career). With roid frauders you see their teenage pics and they're all skinny a twigs, absolutely no sign of any genetic gift towards propensity to build muscle at all. He was already 200-210lbs as a 15 year old, knocking out adult men in the amateurs.
That's true. Nasser as a 20-something vs Nasser with drugs, two different people. That's what makes these guys elite - they respond to drugs in a way average people don't. I would assume a guy as big as Tyson would be bigger even when cruising on low doses, so he may well have been natural at his peak. There is a possibility he used steroids to short-cut the mass-gaining process when he came back after leaving prison, because by that time he was MUCH bigger than he was in, say, 1990.

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Title: Re: Just look at that bloomin neck
Post by: Marty Champions on August 16, 2018, 05:28:05 AM
yung blacks can get sick power , i remember my n1gga jerrod benchin tree fiddy weighin at 160
Title: Re: Just look at that bloomin neck
Post by: chrisbro on August 16, 2018, 06:51:56 AM
I don't think Tyson used steroids

there is very strong suspicion Holyfield did, put on a lot of lean muscle fast training with Haney , and lost his hair in the process

HAHA... they all did bro
Title: Re: Just look at that bloomin neck
Post by: plebian on August 16, 2018, 06:57:56 AM
HAHA... they all did bro

during the 90s sure. Thats when we started to see heavyweights go from tall dudes with a bit of the muscle to all of the sudden looking like bodybuilders, as well as what i call the artificial heavyweights - blown up light heavies and cruiserweights like holyfield.

during the 80s, its not such a given, there were way less many suspect physiques back then.

of course its hard to truly say delineate drug use in any sport. I remember reading ali's quack doctor prescribed him a bunch of T3 to drop the fat he he had gained. Ali even spoke openly about it and said he hated it, it made him feel like shit and made his brain feel like mush. alis crew was rather concerned because he was popping them like vitamin pills. Interestingly, they later tried to shift the blame of ali's parkinsons from boxing onto this brief experiment with T3, which of course is retarded. Yeah it was those damned pills! not the ridiculous amount of punches he took to his head in his late career  ::)
Title: Re: Just look at that bloomin neck
Post by: plebian on August 16, 2018, 07:01:25 AM

there is very strong suspicion Holyfield did, put on a lot of lean muscle fast training with Haney , and lost his hair in the process

more than that, he was peripherally tied to two drug busts -

On February 28, 2007, Holyfield was anonymously linked to Applied Pharmacy Services, a pharmacy in Alabama that was under investigation for supplying athletes with illegal steroids and human growth hormone (HGH). He denied ever using performance enhancers.[49]

Holyfield's name does not appear in the law enforcement documents reviewed. However, a patient by the name of "Evan Fields" caught investigators' attention. "Fields" shares the same birth date as Holyfield, October 19, 1962. The listed address for "Fields" was 794 Evander, Fairfield, Ga. 30213. Holyfield has a very similar address. When the phone number that, according to the documents, was associated with the "Fields" prescription, was dialed, Holyfield answered.[50]

On March 10, 2007, Holyfield made a public announcement that he would be pursuing his own investigation into the steroid claims in order to clear his name.[51]

Holyfield was again linked to HGH in September 2007, when his name came up following a raid of Signature Pharmacy in Orlando, Florida.[52] Signature Pharmacy was under investigation for illegally supplying several professional athletes with steroids and HGH.[53]
Title: Re: Just look at that bloomin neck
Post by: Griffith on August 16, 2018, 07:06:51 AM
Tyson after prison: 5'10 at 240 pounds

(https://www.sports24ghana.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/Mike-Iron-Tyson.jpg)

(https://forums.steroid.com/attachments/anabolic-lounge-off-topic-discussion/189d1002889212-mike-tyson-tyson2.jpg)

Title: Re: Just look at that bloomin neck
Post by: old-school-lifter on August 16, 2018, 05:03:22 PM
Tyson after prison: 5'10 at 240 pounds

(https://www.sports24ghana.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/Mike-Iron-Tyson.jpg)

(https://forums.steroid.com/attachments/anabolic-lounge-off-topic-discussion/189d1002889212-mike-tyson-tyson2.jpg)



hes 240 in those pics? I don't think so

his fighting weight never was above 225 I don't think

he'd usually come in 217ish
Title: Re: Just look at that bloomin neck
Post by: Kwon3 on August 16, 2018, 05:10:04 PM
hes 240 in those pics? I don't think so

his fighting weight never was above 225 I don't think

he'd usually come in 217ish
In his early career he was in the 210s but like I said earlier post-prison he was much bigger.

For instance at the Lennox Lewis fight in 2002 he was 235, which means he was probably 260-270 offseason.
Title: Re: Just look at that bloomin neck
Post by: Zillotch on August 16, 2018, 05:14:00 PM
Tyson after prison: 5'10 at 240 pounds

(https://www.sports24ghana.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/Mike-Iron-Tyson.jpg)

epic, powerful build... low dose androgens resulting in solid functional mass that is much more impressive than a 'bodybuilder' cuz he used his physicality to do terminator shit.

most entertaining black athlete ever
Title: Re: Just look at that bloomin neck
Post by: plebian on August 16, 2018, 05:33:35 PM
hes 240 in those pics? I don't think so

his fighting weight never was above 225 I don't think

he'd usually come in 217ish

i dont think hes 240 in those pics, but he was 240 in the fight against nielsen. The nielsen fight was the heaviest he ever got iirc, and not in a good way.
Title: Re: Just look at that bloomin neck
Post by: Griffith on August 16, 2018, 11:11:13 PM
i dont think hes 240 in those pics, but he was 240 in the fight against nielsen. The nielsen fight was the heaviest he ever got iirc, and not in a good way.

He was exactly 234 pounds there, in the weigh in for the Lennox Lewis fight.
Title: Re: Just look at that bloomin neck
Post by: chrisbro on August 17, 2018, 02:27:47 AM
epic, powerful build... low dose androgens resulting in solid functional mass that is much more impressive than a 'bodybuilder' cuz he used his physicality to do terminator shit.

most entertaining black athlete ever

Like him or not..this Reporter was way out of order. should not have said this::LOL should not have said it to anyone on his Show.
Title: Re: Just look at that bloomin neck
Post by: Svengoolie on August 17, 2018, 02:35:38 AM
Like him or not..this Reporter was way out of order. should not have said this::LOL should not have said it to anyone on his Show.


I watch this clip all the time. If I was that guy I would have started shitting my pants once Mike started getting fidgety and breathing harder, trying to control himself.
Title: Re: Just look at that bloomin neck
Post by: chrisbro on August 17, 2018, 02:56:41 AM
I watch this clip all the time. If I was that guy I would have started shitting my pants once Mike started getting fidgety and breathing harder, trying to control himself.

was a set up. should not have happened. Don't know if he did it or not but He's paid his dues. should leave him alone. The reporter did keep calm though. 
Title: Re: Just look at that bloomin neck
Post by: HTexan on August 17, 2018, 11:55:43 AM
was a set up. should not have happened. Don't know if he did it or not but He's paid his dues. should leave him alone. The reporter did keep calm though. 

70% of all interviews are setups.