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Title: is this the end of the cult of elon musk
Post by: hardgainerj on August 17, 2018, 05:01:29 PM
investors are pulling out of tesla like a nervous teenager

i suppose mars will have to wait on musk ::)
Title: Re: is this the end of the cult of elon musk
Post by: SF1900 on August 17, 2018, 05:04:53 PM
investors are pulling out of tesla like a nervous teenager

i suppose mars will have to wait on musk ::)

Hardgainer, how much would you pay to be shot into space on the same spacecraft as Vince Goodrum, CSN, MFT, HPP, CEO, Wiggs, and Tbombz, to all live on Saturns Rings together?
Title: Re: is this the end of the cult of elon musk
Post by: hardgainerj on August 17, 2018, 05:07:31 PM
Hardgainer, how much would you pay to be shot into space on the same spacecraft as Vince Goodrum, CSN, MFT, HPP, CEO, Wiggs, and Tbombz, to all live on Saturns Rings together?
great questoin
Title: Re: is this the end of the cult of elon musk
Post by: SF1900 on August 17, 2018, 05:11:03 PM
great questoin

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Title: Re: is this the end of the cult of elon musk
Post by: sync pulse on August 17, 2018, 05:18:26 PM
Hardgainer, how much would you pay to be shot into space on the same spacecraft as Vince Goodrum, CSN, MFT, HPP, CEO, Wiggs, and Tbombz, to all live on Saturns Rings together?

Title: Re: is this the end of the cult of elon musk
Post by: robcguns on August 17, 2018, 05:46:07 PM
Good,fuck musk and Tesla
Title: Re: is this the end of the cult of elon musk
Post by: IroNat on August 18, 2018, 05:22:16 AM
Musk has been running a house of cards for awhile.

He has suckered a lot of people.

He's a smart guy but has over-promised and under-delivered.

Title: Re: is this the end of the cult of elon musk
Post by: XFACTOR on August 18, 2018, 05:25:04 AM
Musk has been running a house of cards for awhile.

He has suckered a lot of people.

He's a smart guy but has over-promised and under-delivered.



Operationally they are hurting. Would benefit from a former GE VP hire. Someone that’s executed well on huge operations projects there. The GE management style would add some more accountability as well.
Title: Re: is this the end of the cult of elon musk
Post by: Parker on August 18, 2018, 07:47:17 AM
Musk has been running a house of cards for awhile.

He has suckered a lot of people.

He's a smart guy but has over-promised and under-delivered.


Tesla Model S, Model 3, Model X, and the upcoming roadster, and truck all did their purpose. To shake the game up, and get the other automakers to produce competitors.
Title: Re: is this the end of the cult of elon musk
Post by: IroNat on August 18, 2018, 08:08:52 AM
Tesla Model S, Model 3, Model X, and the upcoming roadster, and truck all did their purpose. To shake the game up, and get the other automakers to produce competitors.

So Musk did all this just to encourage major automakers to produce competitive models of their own and most likely put Tesla out of business?

Makes perfect sense.

Very altruistic for Musk to sacrifice his company on the altar of Capitalism.
Title: Re: is this the end of the cult of elon musk
Post by: JustPlaneJane on August 18, 2018, 08:23:43 AM
He dated Amber Heard.

Never go full retard and never date Amber Heard.
Title: Re: is this the end of the cult of elon musk
Post by: SF1900 on August 18, 2018, 08:24:08 AM
Elon Musk Reveals 'Painful' and 'Excruciating' Year in Tear-Filled Interview

Elon Musk is admitting that the stress of his multibillion-dollar companies is taking a toll on his well-being.

“This past year has been the most difficult and painful year of my career,” Musk — the co-founder and CEO of SpaceX, Tesla and Neuralink — told the New York Times on Thursday. “It was excruciating.”
Musk — who reportedly alternated between laughing and crying during his interview — detailed a life filled with 120-hour work weeks, which has often prevented him from seeing family and almost kept him from making it to his brother’s wedding in Catalonia.

This intense schedule has been the case for the better part of the last two decades, which has spanned Musk’s three marriages, the births of his twins and triplets and the loss of his infant son in 2002 due to SIDS.

“There were times when I didn’t leave the factory for three or four days — days when I didn’t go outside,” he said. “This has really come at the expense of seeing my kids. And seeing friends.

When Musk turned 47 in June, there wasn’t much of a celebration, he “struggled” to tell the newspaper. He spent the entire 24 hours of the day at work.

All night — no friends, nothing,” Musk said.
Because he has trouble resting, the Tesla CEO — who dated actress Amber Heard on and off for years — also admitted he sometimes uses Ambien, a powerful sleep medication.

“It is often a choice of no sleep or Ambien,” he said. The Times reported that members of Tesla’s board have expressed concern about his use of the medication, which can sometimes prove addictive.
Title: Re: is this the end of the cult of elon musk
Post by: Dave D on August 18, 2018, 08:34:38 AM
If they can mass produce the X they will be fine.

He looks like a lunatic because he is a fanatic about his company, many people work their 40-50 and are done. He's an extremist with work, but it's that vision and passion that allowed him to succeed when he was told he couldnt.
Title: Re: is this the end of the cult of elon musk
Post by: The_Punisher on August 18, 2018, 08:36:57 AM
when your name is Elon Musk, who needs sleep....sleep is for losers, you'll have plenty of sleep when you're dead.... ;D
Title: Re: is this the end of the cult of elon musk
Post by: TonyAlva on August 18, 2018, 10:25:46 AM
Once he cried on camera, in front of the world like a little bich  no come back!.
Title: Re: is this the end of the cult of elon musk
Post by: Kwon3 on August 18, 2018, 10:31:30 AM
He's a spoiled brat who runs his company like a dictator, shuts down dissent, and was caught off guard by lawsuits from women against his company as well as a former employee who stole a bunch of programming code and exposed part of why the new cars are in production bottlenecks preventing them from being produced in the numbers equal to preorders, let all the mass market. All he's done for the last 3-4 years is bullshit investors and burn through cash. Yes, the valuation of Tesla is more than GM (slightly), but their business model clearly isn't working if he feels the need to take it private with SAUDI money.

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2018-08-13/elon-musk-gives-tesla-s-wheel-to-saudi-arabia (https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2018-08-13/elon-musk-gives-tesla-s-wheel-to-saudi-arabia)
Title: Re: is this the end of the cult of elon musk
Post by: Kwon3 on August 18, 2018, 10:33:41 AM
when your name is Elon Musk, who needs sleep....sleep is for losers, you'll have plenty of sleep when you're dead.... ;D
Instead of micromanaging his company and working 16 hour days, maybe he could start listening to his advisers or better yet seek the counsel of former automaker CEOs like Carl Icahn or Sergio Marchionne on how they turned their failing companies around. But that's not Elon's style. He thinks he knows everything.
Title: Re: is this the end of the cult of elon musk
Post by: MAXX on August 18, 2018, 10:41:11 AM
If they can mass produce the X they will be fine.

He looks like a lunatic because he is a fanatic about his company, many people work their 40-50 and are done. He's an extremist with work, but it's that vision and passion that allowed him to succeed when he was told he couldnt.
I agree with this. I read they are almost there with the production. Guessing it will sell like butter. But who knows... Recession may be coming soon.
Title: Re: is this the end of the cult of elon musk
Post by: SOMEPARTS on August 18, 2018, 11:23:15 AM
Musk has been running a house of cards for awhile.

He has suckered a lot of people.

He's a smart guy but has over-promised and under-delivered.




Just like the original Tesla...
Title: Re: is this the end of the cult of elon musk
Post by: Grape Ape on August 18, 2018, 11:30:40 AM
We need people like Musk to push the envelope and drive innovation.
Title: Re: is this the end of the cult of elon musk
Post by: The Scott on August 18, 2018, 11:35:39 AM
I agree with this. I read they are almost there with the production. Guessing it will sell like butter. But who knows... Recession may be coming soon.


Really?  A recession?  I suppose one could happen at any time but the only reason I can think of is that the Dems fund it via one of their "GoFuck'Em campaigns. 
Title: Re: is this the end of the cult of elon musk
Post by: Parker on August 18, 2018, 01:09:24 PM
So Musk did all this just to encourage major automakers to produce competitive models of their own and most likely put Tesla out of business?

Makes perfect sense.

Very altruistic for Musk to sacrifice his company on the altar of Capitalism.
No, of course he didn’t do this all to encourage automakers. But that his main thrust. And look at the name “Tesla”, and what they produce. And now look at how the Model S has changed the landscape for luxury cars and EVs. As well as the Model X. Now BMW, Porsche, and Mercedes are coming out with Model S competitors, and almost every Chinese EV start up has a “Tesla Killer” Model X competitor coming “soon”.
And then there are the orders for their EV semi truck, which optimistically should start production in 2019. Due to their history of missing timelines, this remains to be seen.
With the Model 3 aimed at the BMW 3 series, it’s out BMW on notice, but nobody has really been able to take down the BMW 3 series, as it’s a moving target.
Bad press with the Autonomous Mode in fatal crashes, and issues with the Model 3 not meeting deadlines, bumpers falling off the Model 3 after it rains,  as well as Elon’s tweeting habits have not helped the company
Title: Re: is this the end of the cult of elon musk
Post by: tres_taco_combo on August 18, 2018, 01:44:39 PM
We need people like Musk to push the envelope and drive innovation.

YEP
Title: Re: is this the end of the cult of elon musk
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 18, 2018, 01:55:45 PM
...........no
Title: Re: is this the end of the cult of elon musk
Post by: Palumboism on August 18, 2018, 01:59:36 PM
Instead of micromanaging his company and working 16 hour days, maybe he could start listening to his advisers or better yet seek the counsel of former automaker CEOs like Carl Icahn or Sergio Marchionne on how they turned their failing companies around. But that's not Elon's style. He thinks he knows everything.

Sergio Marchionne died July 25, 2018. 
Title: Re: is this the end of the cult of elon musk
Post by: Kwon3 on August 18, 2018, 02:43:10 PM
Sergio Marchionne died July 25, 2018. 
Just goes to show if you wait too long, you miss your shot. He could've asked him last winter or the year before that when the problems were really starting with Tesla's production output.

Like I said, even if the guy was still alive he'd never bother because he thinks the Saudis will rescue him.
Title: Re: is this the end of the cult of elon musk
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on August 18, 2018, 04:26:21 PM
Instead of micromanaging his company and working 16 hour days, maybe he could start listening to his advisers or better yet seek the counsel of former automaker CEOs like Carl Icahn or Sergio Marchionne on how they turned their failing companies around. But that's not Elon's style. He thinks he knows everything.


Elon does know everything and his problem is the same as the person he named his company after.   He's addicted to work.
Title: Re: is this the end of the cult of elon musk
Post by: Parker on August 18, 2018, 04:36:01 PM

Elon does know everything and his problem is the same as the person he named his company after.   He's addicted to work.
Not really, he had to put in a lot more time because he was getting flack for his company not making deadlines. You call it being addicted, but others call it being Driven to succeed. To be the best at something, or to be the top of your field, you have to have that drive to succeed. Learn something from that, Vince. Be driven. Like Arnold, like Haney,  Dorian, Ronnie, Phil, Dex, even Jay. All had that drive to suffer and be the best. And Elon in his field has the same.
Title: Re: is this the end of the cult of elon musk
Post by: IRON CROSS on August 18, 2018, 05:10:52 PM
Hardgainer, how much would you pay to be shot into space on the same spacecraft as Vince Goodrum, CSN, MFT, HPP, CEO, Wiggs, and Tbombz, to all live on Saturns Rings together?


I'll pay 4 other Vince ticket (1 way only)

 :D
Title: Re: is this the end of the cult of elon musk
Post by: Kwon3 on August 18, 2018, 06:17:56 PM

Elon does know everything and his problem is the same as the person he named his company after.   He's addicted to work.
Nobody knows everything and Elon didn't know that one of his programmers was stealing his code, which is why he sent belated and highly-triggered e-mails all week after it happened. He also fired a large number of people recently in an attempt to trim operating costs while even his best engineers remain baffled about how to fix the automation problems causing his massive backlog of deliveries to customers who bought their cars YEARS ago. He's going down in flames and begging the Saudi's for a charge card account to buy back enough stock to go private and basically let them decide how his cars are going to look. Because that's what you want in your company, a powerful foreign dynasty that lives on oil profits steering the ship of your electric vehicles business.  ;)
Title: Re: is this the end of the cult of elon musk
Post by: Palumboism on August 18, 2018, 07:08:44 PM

Elon does know everything and his problem is the same as the person he named his company after.   He's addicted to work.

This is a fair assessment of the situation.  I would rate Elon's intellect at the genius level.  Academically he excelled, making into Stanford grad school.  When you apply that level of intellect, with the level of intensity he has, for 100 plus hours per week, he makes the impossible possible. 

Tesla has had a huge impact on the auto industry.  With companies like VW, BMW, and Mercedes investing ten's of billions of dollars in electric cars.  Nobody coming close to the model 3 in terms of price and performance.   

Title: Re: is this the end of the cult of elon musk
Post by: SOMEPARTS on October 07, 2020, 12:58:30 PM
When there are questions not to be answered, take the route of the Biden campaign.


"Tesla hasn’t responded to a press inquiry in months. We have received the odd email here and there from former press people, but it almost seems to be in an unofficial capacity.

If you’re a reporter who isn’t getting a response from Tesla, don’t take it personally, because it’s due to the automaker having dissolved its PR team.

The move has been confirmed to Electrek at the highest level at Tesla with the source saying, “We no longer have a PR Team.” "




https://electrek.co/2020/10/06/tesla-dissolves-pr-department/#:~:text=Electrek%20can%20confirm%20that%20Tesla,t%20talk%20to%20the%20press.&text=Keely%20Sulprizio%2C%20the%20last%20person,year%20to%20join%20Impossible%20Foods.
Title: Re: is this the end of the cult of elon musk
Post by: Walter Sobchak on October 07, 2020, 01:04:44 PM
Operationally they are hurting. Would benefit from a former GE VP hire. Someone that’s executed well on huge operations projects there. The GE management style would add some more accountability as well.

XFACTOR giving his opinion...based on his extensive business acumen accumulated while selling software in Weasel Piss Creek, Ontario.
Title: Re: is this the end of the cult of elon musk
Post by: Rambone on October 07, 2020, 01:08:30 PM
Operationally they are hurting. Would benefit from a former GE VP hire. Someone that’s executed well on huge operations projects there. The GE management style would add some more accountability as well.

This post aged like milk
Title: Re: is this the end of the cult of elon musk
Post by: IroNat on October 07, 2020, 01:16:01 PM
Elon who?
Title: Re: is this the end of the cult of elon musk
Post by: BB on October 07, 2020, 01:16:46 PM
On Aug 17, 2018, TSLA was $61.10/share.
Title: Re: is this the end of the cult of elon musk
Post by: Marty Champions on October 07, 2020, 01:50:11 PM
Musk is skum
Title: Re: is this the end of the cult of elon musk
Post by: Kwon on October 07, 2020, 02:11:04 PM
Skum that is the Ksum of all Fears.
Title: Re: is this the end of the cult of elon musk
Post by: DanM on October 07, 2020, 03:58:26 PM
If mankind has any hope of overcoming our biological baggage and one day expanding out into the universe, it will be because of people like Elon Musk
Title: Re: is this the end of the cult of elon musk
Post by: Mothballs on October 07, 2020, 06:05:10 PM
On Aug 17, 2018, TSLA was $61.10/share.
Proving why Getbiggers are all millionaires.
Title: Re: is this the end of the cult of elon musk
Post by: SOMEPARTS on October 07, 2020, 07:02:27 PM
If mankind has any hope of overcoming our biological baggage and one day expanding out into the universe, it will be because of people like Elon Musk


Musk....Bill Gates, Zuckerberg, Bezos....all govt assisted.
Title: Re: is this the end of the cult of elon musk
Post by: Fortress on October 07, 2020, 08:18:38 PM
Who?
Title: Re: is this the end of the cult of elon musk
Post by: harmankardon1 on October 07, 2020, 09:41:53 PM
Musk is legit, space x is no joke....
Title: Re: is this the end of the cult of elon musk
Post by: BBSSchlemiel on October 08, 2020, 03:28:01 AM
Elon Musk Reveals 'Painful' and 'Excruciating' Year in Tear-Filled Interview

Elon Musk is admitting that the stress of his multibillion-dollar companies is taking a toll on his well-being.

“This past year has been the most difficult and painful year of my career,” Musk — the co-founder and CEO of SpaceX, Tesla and Neuralink — told the New York Times on Thursday. “It was excruciating.”
Musk — who reportedly alternated between laughing and crying during his interview — detailed a life filled with 120-hour work weeks, which has often prevented him from seeing family and almost kept him from making it to his brother’s wedding in Catalonia.

This intense schedule has been the case for the better part of the last two decades, which has spanned Musk’s three marriages, the births of his twins and triplets and the loss of his infant son in 2002 due to SIDS.

“There were times when I didn’t leave the factory for three or four days — days when I didn’t go outside,” he said. “This has really come at the expense of seeing my kids. And seeing friends.

When Musk turned 47 in June, there wasn’t much of a celebration, he “struggled” to tell the newspaper. He spent the entire 24 hours of the day at work.

All night — no friends, nothing,” Musk said.
Because he has trouble resting, the Tesla CEO — who dated actress Amber Heard on and off for years — also admitted he sometimes uses Ambien, a powerful sleep medication.

“It is often a choice of no sleep or Ambien,” he said. The Times reported that members of Tesla’s board have expressed concern about his use of the medication, which can sometimes prove addictive.

Wow, what a nice guy, and caring father.
Title: Re: is this the end of the cult of elon musk
Post by: Kwon on October 08, 2020, 05:09:56 AM
Nobody knows everything and Elon didn't know that one of his programmers was stealing his code, which is why he sent belated and highly-triggered e-mails all week after it happened. He also fired a large number of people recently in an attempt to trim operating costs while even his best engineers remain baffled about how to fix the automation problems causing his massive backlog of deliveries to customers who bought their cars YEARS ago. He's going down in flames and begging the Saudi's for a charge card account to buy back enough stock to go private and basically let them decide how his cars are going to look. Because that's what you want in your company, a powerful foreign dynasty that lives on oil profits steering the ship of your electric vehicles business.  ;)

Didn't know this! Thanks.
Title: Re: is this the end of the cult of elon musk
Post by: Mr Anabolic on October 08, 2020, 06:04:13 AM

Musk....Bill Gates, Zuckerberg, Bezos....all govt assisted.

They're just figurehead globalist minions... totally bought and paid for... following orders.
Title: Re: is this the end of the cult of elon musk
Post by: Humble Narcissist on October 08, 2020, 06:07:43 AM
Musk is legit, space x is no joke....
Space X is absolutely a joke.
Title: Re: is this the end of the cult of elon musk
Post by: youandme on October 08, 2020, 06:10:03 AM
So Musk did all this just to encourage major automakers to produce competitive models of their own and most likely put Tesla out of business?

Makes perfect sense.

Very altruistic for Musk to sacrifice his company on the altar of Capitalism.

Lol exactly.

What happened to his Tunnel train?

All types of things he’s spoken about and never delivered. Seems like battery cars and some rockets are as far as it goes.

Seems like the stock moves on dreams and fantasy.
Title: Re: is this the end of the cult of elon musk
Post by: harmankardon1 on October 08, 2020, 06:25:12 AM
Space X is absolutely a joke.

Tesla may be highly questionable, less so now, even if it's still grossly overvalued. But space x has huge profit ability and future potential, see starlink satellite constellation, and just the nasa and military contracts alone worth billions.

Falcon 9 space x flight to Leo is approx 70 million, same size cargo the next cheapest provider 200million.

They are legit.
Title: Re: is this the end of the cult of elon musk
Post by: SOMEPARTS on October 08, 2020, 08:38:12 AM
NASA shuts down so Space-X can do it all and never turn a profit? How long can Elon's companies run on "potential"? Who is paying? Somebody is...


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Title: Re: is this the end of the cult of elon musk
Post by: Humble Narcissist on October 08, 2020, 09:50:29 AM
Tesla may be highly questionable, less so now, even if it's still grossly overvalued. But space x has huge profit ability and future potential, see starlink satellite constellation, and just the nasa and military contracts alone worth billions.

Falcon 9 space x flight to Leo is approx 70 million, same size cargo the next cheapest provider 200million.

They are legit.
Do you believe Space X will ever send men to Mars?
Title: Re: is this the end of the cult of elon musk
Post by: SOMEPARTS on October 08, 2020, 11:06:39 AM
Do you believe Space X will ever send men to Mars?


I believe they will send a lot of money into a black hole. Pick your reason why...
Title: Re: is this the end of the cult of elon musk
Post by: Kwon on October 08, 2020, 11:11:13 AM
Kelon Mus

Eom Kluns
Title: Re: is this the end of the cult of elon musk
Post by: Humble Narcissist on October 08, 2020, 12:18:39 PM

I believe they will send a lot of money into a black hole. Pick your reason why...
Guaranteed any money spent on a Mars mission is a waste of money.
Title: Re: is this the end of the cult of elon musk
Post by: Mr Anabolic on October 08, 2020, 01:02:47 PM
Do you believe Space X will ever send men to Mars?

If they do, it will be an elaborate Hollywood production or 500 years from now. 

There's one little problem they must solve first... it's called radiation. 
Title: Re: is this the end of the cult of elon musk
Post by: Humble Narcissist on October 09, 2020, 04:55:07 AM
If they do, it will be an elaborate Hollywood production or 500 years from now. 

There's one little problem they must solve first... it's called radiation.
Not to mention the storage of oxygen, water, rocket fuel, food, medical supplies, building supplies for permanent structures, etc, etc.  You know, the questions no one ever asks.