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Hi guys,
Need some help regarding my current cycle. Generally, I have pretty decent skin and have cycled in the past without breaking out too much. This time around, especially over the last few weeks, I have broken out in pimples however only on my back. Nothing on my chest, arms, face, etc. I'm really concerned about this as it hasn't been this bad before.
Does anyone know any good tablet form medication I can take to clear this situation up quick? Wanting to take something that'll clear it up in the quickest time possible, especially because in Australia, beach season is coming up pretty soon and want my skin to go back to being super clear. What have u guys used in the past to clear up back acne? Really needing some help with this situation.
For background, I use 3ml sus, 3ml mast, 3ml tren ace each week. My sus is labelled 250mg per ml, tren ace and mast both at 100mg per ml.
Thanks in advance.
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Before I took Accutane, I showered twice a day when running tren. Change your sheets often and get a good soap.
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Its got nothing to do with all the drugs you are taking.
Congratulations, you are finally going through puberty.
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Low dose accutane, 10mg or 20mg a day. Don't overdo it, it's powerful stuff. Either get the generic stuff from indian pharmacy, or I'm pretty sure your AAS supplier stocks some as well. You can also go to a dermo
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Low dose accutane, 10mg or 20mg a day. Don't overdo it, it's powerful stuff. Either get the generic stuff from indian pharmacy, or I'm pretty sure your AAS supplier stocks some as well. You can also go to a dermo
good luck with the derm, they give blood test for AST LEVELs and wont give you accutane if you have elevated blood levels
also loose bodyfat, i mean it. i feel acne is correlated to bodyfat/higher estrogenic fat
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good luck with the derm, they give blood test for AST LEVELs and wont give you accutane if you have elevated blood levels
also loose bodyfat, i mean it. i feel acne is correlated to bodyfat/higher estrogenic fat
I had blood tests when I was on it and had no body fat at all. I had bad sides because they dosed it higher when it first came out.
It's hormone (androgens) related but certainly not related to fat or estrogen.
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I had blood tests when I was on it and had no body fat at all. I had bad sides because they dosed it higher when it first came out.
It's hormone (androgens) related but certainly not related to fat or estrogen.
yes it is on your jawline/upper back it is hormones
some say saw palmetto helps since it keeps DHT conversion at bay.... i take it 2x a day -
i feel when i am leaner, i have less hormone fluctuation. get to a legit 10% or less and your skin is tighter and dryer.....
if i can give anyone tips on someone who has acne and wants to try to a different route than the other routes always mentioned
it is get your ass below 10% bf and stay there.
also use the sauna 5x a week and do it for 20-30 minutes daily
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There's a forum for questions like this, unless you want advice from people who don't use steroids or the treatment they're suggesting for steroid-related acne. Then stick around and post here, I guess.
Go back to the main page and scroll down to Steroids & Hardcore. You're welcome.
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There's a forum for questions like this, unless you want advice from people who don't use steroids or the treatment they're suggesting for steroid-related acne. Then stick around and post here, I guess.
Go back to the main page and scroll down to Steroids & Hardcore. You're welcome.
acne is so hard to solve.
i have more folliculitis than acne (ingrown hairs that resemble zits)
if you have some big ones - big cysts go see your derm and ask him to do a kenalog injection. it a form of cortisone injected into the cyst..... flatten the zit right away
only go to a skilled derm who does kenalog injections -
good luck acne sucks.
where are you getting your acne?
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acne is so hard to solve.
i have more folliculitis than acne (ingrown hairs that resemble zits)
if you have some big ones - big cysts go see your derm and ask him to do a kenalog injection. it a form of cortisone injected into the cyst..... flatten the zit right away
only go to a skilled derm who does kenalog injections -
good luck acne sucks.
where are you getting your acne?
I don't think you're replying to the right person. I'm not the OP. I haven't had acne since my late teens and it wasn't steroid-related.
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>>> local GP !.
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Did the guys during Arnold’s era develop the same acne problems guys are experiencing today? Maybe it’s too much test they are using?
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Any day I’d sit in a sauna 5x a week and shower twice a day shoveling down yet another drug to combat the side effects of another. Clearly your body is rejecting the hormone use, lower the dose!
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Hi guys,
Need some help regarding my current cycle. Generally, I have pretty decent skin and have cycled in the past without breaking out too much. This time around, especially over the last few weeks, I have broken out in pimples however only on my back. Nothing on my chest, arms, face, etc. I'm really concerned about this as it hasn't been this bad before.
Does anyone know any good tablet form medication I can take to clear this situation up quick? Wanting to take something that'll clear it up in the quickest time possible, especially because in Australia, beach season is coming up pretty soon and want my skin to go back to being super clear. What have u guys used in the past to clear up back acne? Really needing some help with this situation.
For background, I use 3ml sus, 3ml mast, 3ml tren ace each week. My sus is labelled 250mg per ml, tren ace and mast both at 100mg per ml.
Thanks in advance.
Also see what gives you acne. For me personally test gives acne but not tren. For some people it's opposite. Maybe test one compound at a time and see how it goes
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Im pretty sure its Trumps fault... :P
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LAY OFF THE TESTOSTERONE
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Stop eating chocolate.
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Did the guys during Arnold’s era develop the same acne problems guys are experiencing today? Maybe it’s too much test they are using?
The same reason they all had full heads of hair: no testosterone use.
once test became the drug du jour circa the late 80s early 90s then you started seeing the now all too common phenomena of gym rats with baldy heads and acne all over their back and shoulders, not to mention the bloat monsters with chronically high blood pressure and red skin. Guys in arnolds era could get pretty bloofy but their skin color was always normal.
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Careful, Accutane can really fuck with test, part of reason it works...Do a 3 month course and it permanently shrinks sebaceous glands...don't do as maintenance it can really fuck with bodybuilding.
Acta Derm Venereol. 2011 Jan;91(1):31-4. doi: 10.2340/00015555-1013
Isotretinoin influences pituitary hormone levels in acne patients.
In this study, we investigated the effects of isotretinoin on the pituitary-adrenal axis, whose activity may be increased in acne. Various hormone systems were evaluated before and after 3 months of isotretinoin treatment in 47 acne patients. Free triiodothyronine (T3), thyroid-stimulating hormone and thyroid-stimulating hormone receptor antibody levels decreased significantly during isotretinoin treatment (p < 0.001, p < 0.02 and p < 0.02, respectively), as did those of luteinising hormone, prolactin and total testosterone (p < 0.005), as well as morning cortisol and adrenocorticotropic hormone (p < 0.005 and p < 0.05, respectively). We conclude that isotretinoin causes mild suppression of pituitary hormone levels, which may be beneficial for tackling the pathogenesis of acne.
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The same reason they all had full heads of hair: no testosterone use.
once test became the drug du jour circa the late 80s early 90s then you started seeing the now all too common phenomena of gym rats with baldy heads and acne all over their back and shoulders, not to mention the bloat monsters with chronically high blood pressure and red skin. Guys in arnolds era could get pretty bloofy but their skin color was always normal.
Guys were using test in the late 70s.
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Guys were using test in the late 70s.
Powerlifters and footballers were. Bodybuilders didn't touch it, many considered it a "dirty drug"
Its hardly like I'm just pulling this out of my ass, this is a consistent theme when sources from that era are engaged on the topic. Nandrolone was the primary drug of choice. Testosterone was avoided.
Dr Robert Kerr's book "the practical use of anabolic steroids with athletes" gives further evidence to this notion. He primarily prescribed nandrolone, dianabol and anavar. He did not like to prescribe testosterone due to the side effects unless the patient was adamant about gaining scale weight as fast as possible, again, typically footballers, not bodybuilders.
If anyone refuses to believe this despite every bit of evidence to the contrary, just ask yourself why looking at gym rats from the era there is an absence of bloat, acne, gyno, high blood pressure (characterized by chronically red/purple skin tinges) and hair loss, and why that is all too common in today's gym rats? The only thing that has changed is the drugs of choice.
you look at any olympia from 1950-1980 and almost every competitor on stage will not only have hair, but a full head of it. Look at any olympia from the past 20 years and notice how the prevalence of baldness skyrockets. Its not because having a chrome dome suddenly became fashionable, thats for fucking sure.
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Powerlifters and footballers were. Bodybuilders didn't touch it, many considered it a "dirty drug"
Its hardly like I'm just pulling this out of my ass, this is a consistent theme when sources from that era are engaged on the topic. Nandrolone was the primary drug of choice. Testosterone was avoided.
Dr Robert Kerr's book "the practical use of anabolic steroids with athletes" gives further evidence to this notion. He primarily prescribed nandrolone, dianabol and anavar. He did not like to prescribe testosterone due to the side effects unless the patient was adamant about gaining scale weight as fast as possible, again, typically footballers, not bodybuilders.
If anyone refuses to believe this despite every bit of evidence to the contrary, just ask yourself why looking at gym rats from the era there is an absence of bloat, acne, gyno, high blood pressure (characterized by chronically red/purple skin tinges) and hair loss, and why that is all too common in today's gym rats? The only thing that has changed is the drugs of choice.
Ric drasin , Andreas Cahling and many guys from that era said test was used all the time....doctors like the one's you mention were working with Olympic athletes in the 70's and the only real drug test for steroids was the Testosterone:Epitestosterone test...hence pure test would be avoided...dbol would be put of your system in days and nandrolone didn't have an effective test until the 90s....Olympic athletes avoided test in 70s because it was basically the only steroid tested for...
Bodybuilders used plenty of test....
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How did they manage to get the pecker up and perform?
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Ric drasin , Andreas Cahling and many guys from that era said test was used all the time....doctors like the one's you mention were working with Olympic athletes in the 70's and the only real drug test for steroids was the Testosterone:Epitestosterone test...hence pure test would be avoided...dbol would be put of your system in days and nandrolone didn't have an effective test until the 90s....Olympic athletes avoided test in 70s because it was basically the only steroid tested for...
Bodybuilders used plenty of test....
the doctor i mentioned was working with BODYBUILDERS primarily, including one A. Schwarzenegger ::) You can search his name on this very forum, he was a well known fixture of the scene. You are taking the word "Athletes" a bit too conventionally.
it is in fact, the very same "medical doctor" Ric Drasin talks about as being one of the two doctors practically EVERYONE in golds was seeing to get their shit.
funny you mention ric drasin, since in his very own video he details what was around but then goes into detail about what the top guys were using, and it was NOT TESTOSTERONE: pay close attention from 2:40 onwards - guys competing in the olymia, from gold's gym, were taking PRIMOBOLAN, WINSTROL AND DECA. Drasin for himself makes no specific mention of actually USING testosterone.
again, it was regarded as a dirty drug. Just because it was around (duh) doesnt mean it was popular.
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the doctor i mentioned was working with BODYBUILDERS primarily, including one A. Schwarzenegger ::) You can search his name on this very forum, he was a well known fixture of the scene. You are taking the word "Athletes" a bit too conventionally.
it is in fact, the very same "medical doctor" Ric Drasin talks about as being one of the two doctors practically EVERYONE in golds was seeing to get their shit.
funny you mention ric drasin, since in his very own video he details what was around but then goes into detail about what the top guys were using, and it was NOT TESTOSTERONE: pay close attention from 2:40 onwards - guys competing in the olymia, from gold's gym, were taking PRIMOBOLAN, WINSTROL AND DECA. Drasin for himself makes no specific mention of actually USING testosterone.
again, it was regarded as a dirty drug. Just because it was around (duh) doesnt mean it was popular.
Test was definetly used less but to say bodybuilders of the 70s didn't use test..and a lot of it is just not true.
As far as balding, its mostly genetic...as Drasin went bald quite early even if as you say he avoided test...Jay Cutler still has full head of hair(just starting to recede). ...
22 year old guys who never heard of steroids start balding...you have to have that genetic reaction to dht.....but...interestin g...yes test was used less....agreed
Dan Duchaines bread and butter cycle in underground steroid handbook was Deca/Dbol
You have some points.
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Test was definetly used less but to say bodybuilders of the 70s didn't use test..and a lot of it is just not true.
As far as balding, its mostly genetic...as Drasin went bald quite early even if as you say he avoided test...Jay Cutler still has full head of hair(just starting to recede). ...
22 year old guys who never heard of steroids start balding...you have to have that genetic reaction to dht.....but...interestin g...yes test was used less....agreed
Dan Duchaines bread and butter cycle in underground steroid handbook was Deca/Dbol
You have some points.
My hairline was perfect until I ran tren. Now as long as I use Nizoral I don't lose anymore.
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Careful, Accutane can really fuck with test, part of reason it works...Do a 3 month course and it permanently shrinks sebaceous glands...don't do as maintenance it can really fuck with bodybuilding.
Acta Derm Venereol. 2011 Jan;91(1):31-4. doi: 10.2340/00015555-1013
Isotretinoin influences pituitary hormone levels in acne patients.
In this study, we investigated the effects of isotretinoin on the pituitary-adrenal axis, whose activity may be increased in acne. Various hormone systems were evaluated before and after 3 months of isotretinoin treatment in 47 acne patients. Free triiodothyronine (T3), thyroid-stimulating hormone and thyroid-stimulating hormone receptor antibody levels decreased significantly during isotretinoin treatment (p < 0.001, p < 0.02 and p < 0.02, respectively), as did those of luteinising hormone, prolactin and total testosterone (p < 0.005), as well as morning cortisol and adrenocorticotropic hormone (p < 0.005 and p < 0.05, respectively). We conclude that isotretinoin causes mild suppression of pituitary hormone levels, which may be beneficial for tackling the pathogenesis of acne.
That's the least of Accutane's side-effects. The company that produces it was sued for millions for causing Crohn's disease in a number of users. A guy I know used it for 2 weeks and started getting an unusual redness on both sides of my nose that flaked and itched. Next thing I knew, his dermatologist diagnosed seborrheic dermatitis, an incurable skin disease that requires lifelong therapy with a variety of creams. This shit is bad. You never know what it'll do to you. To the OP: I say follow Matarazzo's advice and put the drugs away. If you're in your 30s and still need to be "big", you're probably mentally deranged anyway.
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Powerlifters and footballers were. Bodybuilders didn't touch it, many considered it a "dirty drug"
Its hardly like I'm just pulling this out of my ass, this is a consistent theme when sources from that era are engaged on the topic. Nandrolone was the primary drug of choice. Testosterone was avoided.
Dr Robert Kerr's book "the practical use of anabolic steroids with athletes" gives further evidence to this notion. He primarily prescribed nandrolone, dianabol and anavar. He did not like to prescribe testosterone due to the side effects unless the patient was adamant about gaining scale weight as fast as possible, again, typically footballers, not bodybuilders.
If anyone refuses to believe this despite every bit of evidence to the contrary, just ask yourself why looking at gym rats from the era there is an absence of bloat, acne, gyno, high blood pressure (characterized by chronically red/purple skin tinges) and hair loss, and why that is all too common in today's gym rats? The only thing that has changed is the drugs of choice.
you look at any olympia from 1950-1980 and almost every competitor on stage will not only have hair, but a full head of it. Look at any olympia from the past 20 years and notice how the prevalence of baldness skyrockets. Its not because having a chrome dome suddenly became fashionable, thats for fucking sure.
I knew bodybuilders in my gym using test in the 70s. Competitive bodybuilders.
They had full heads of hair too.
The test made them strong as heck.
Other statements in your post are also inaccurate.
No offense intended.
I had the Kerr's book in the early 80s. Bought it about 1983. It is a good book.
My training partner back then was going in a show and asked to borrow it. He had already used steroids previously for other shows. He said it was a good book but Kerr's recommended dosages were too small and he needed to take more. Funny.
He was stacking 4 different steroids in much greater dosages than Kerr recommended.
Kerr was basically a doctor with good intentions prescribing heroin to addicts. They took what he gave them and then got more from their pusher and took that too.
https://www.nytimes.com/2001/01/09/sports/dr-robert-kerr-65-known-as-steroid-guru.html
"Dr. Kerr later stopped prescribing steroids, saying that his attempts to give athletes guidance failed because they often supplemented what he prescribed with drugs they obtained elsewhere."
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"Dr. Kerr later stopped prescribing steroids, saying that his attempts to give athletes guidance failed because they often supplemented what he prescribed with drugs they obtained elsewhere."
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but of course