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Here is the new poster of the Bigger Movie
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That tagline is horrendous.
“He” ... but then, “they”? Who’s they?
This’ll absolutely blow.
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Behind the scenes look.
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That tagline is horrendous.
“He” ... but then, “they”? Who’s they?
This’ll absolutely blow.
I don't think there was any expectation that this would be anything other than garbage.
And that poster is like a masterclass in poor design choices. "Mr Olympia" is in a bigger font type than than the title of the movie. The actress playing Betty Weider has less of her body shown than every other person on that poster.
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A biopic about a man who spent his entire career making millions on the backs of men who were paid crumbs and several of whom Joe didn't visit or care for when they lay dying in the hospital, like his former star athlete Mike Matarazzo. Joe and Ben were like two mob bosses who ran a crime syndicate based on a scam which promoted the illusion that using their useless, chemical products could promote the physiques of the superstars peddled in the magazines and ads found in various newsstands and gyms across the world. They offered their athletes no health insurance, favored some over others at the Olympia stage based on their loyalty and cooperation with the brothers, and disgraced a sport that was once focused on achieving the pinnacle of balance, symmetry, and conditioning in favor of health-destroying, stomach-busting monstrosities that we see on stage today. In short, they destroyed bodybuilding. How can you promote this garbage on your site? You're better than this, Ron. I know you work in this industry and you're beloved for your larger-than-life personality and easy-going manner at seminars, expos, contests. Many athletes owe you for the exposure you afforded them with your photos. But the Weider brothers were the black stains on this business. They don't deserve our respect or our money anymore.
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Based on Generation Iron 2, I’m excited to see Calum Moger’s incredible acting chops on display once again!
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As if Weider ever had a body like that.
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Wow - same old story over the years, except that Joe & Ben Weider built an empire of bodybuilding around the globe, and rose up from being kicked and laughed at to building an empire. Bottom line, like it or not, they are the key history that built bodybuilding into the mainstream at the time, and brought up many, including Arnold and others. Bottom line, before them, there were no gyms in every hotel, every city, every school - there were dingy places to work out of. These two, with their way, brought it out, and built an industry.
Yes, the contests, the expos, and much more is truly helped by them.
You think garbage because that is all that you can think - you don't like the mass monsters, as you think symmetry and balance, while the freaks of the sport, aka Arnold and others brought in a lot.
You may not like them, but I truly respect what they built, and the empire of magazines, contests and supplements that came via it in all corners. We can go into debate on those, but that is for another topic, which you can bring back up, and we can discuss again.
As for now, this is the new poster, of a movie which has succeeded to be made, which is great.
Now, on a personal level, I had the time to meet and talk to BOTH Ben and Joe Weider over the years, and they both, each separately, showed me great respect. In any business you build, of course you have various ways of advertising, but that is no different than any other business and sport today too.
“He” ... but then, “they”? Who’s they?
Joe, Ben and Arnold -
In 1997, the Olympia has held in Long Beach with some booth around the venue. Same with the Arnold back then.
Today, these two events and contests are huge, and I am glad to have been able to see them grow
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You didn't see me critisizing their business acumen or ability to self-publicize and their rags-to-riches story? That's because Joe was a savvy businessman who saw that he'd hit a goldmine with this undiscovered hobby some muscle men had and knew there was something more to it than just individual exercise. This could become a business, something that hadn't been discovered or done yet, and the business would mature and grow as they got more followers. It's a classic bait & hook scheme that lasted over 60 years. Nobody can question the Weider brothers' entrepreneurial bona fides.
My issue is with how they used then discarded their athletes based on how useful (profitable) they were at any given time. Once a bodybuilder grew too old, too flat, didn't respond as well to the drugs, didn't place anymore, or just wasn't the newest kid on the block, they'd find another. That's the definition of production line talent acquisition. It's no different than how foreign call centers churn through Indian agents on a weekly basis once they burn out on scamming people in the U.S. on the phone. They gave their athletes NO health coverage or retirement funds and abandoned them when they got sick or old. I can find you plenty of photos of them with the stars of yesterday, none of whom had a single word of praise for him when he was still alive or after he died. Why not? Shouldn't he have been eulogized from the rooftops by the current and former athletes whose careers he supposedly built?
You say gyms and fitness centers within other businesses (like hotels) proliferated thanks to bodybuilding. I'm not sure I would agree. Arnold's generation didn't popularize bodybuilding at all. It was niche until the mid-1980s and has more or less returned to that state of affairs today as the public became wiser to the drugs, the egos, the politics of the sport and realized it was a bad influence on a new generation of young people. That the stars of 20 years ago are sick or dying doesn't help, either. The booming of the fitness industry owes its success to the American obsession with self-improvement, advances in medical understanding of how exercise and diet helps prolong a person's life or improve its quality, as well as the fact that it's just good business to offer exercise facilities to guests and urban populations in general. There's no pictures of Weider in any 24hr Fitness or LA Fitness or Bali's anywhere in the country. Shouldn't they be honoring him for pioneering their business model? I think you're comparing apples to oranges here.
The brothers liked you? Of course they did. You're a likable guy in general and your site is devoted to promoting the industry and its athletes. What's not to like? I'm afraid that doesn't tell us anything we didn't already know. I'm sure Bill Gates has friends, too. Doesn't mean he wasn't sued successfully for predatory business practices that essentially locked out the competition by making his OS the only one anyone could use on personal computers for the longest time.
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You are right - if an athlete did not place anymore, grew too old, and could not compete anymore, another one came along. True.
Same with any other sport - whether surfing, Olympics sports, football, etc - that is what happens. Many competitors are independent athletes -
Just like the video game industry right now, or the poker world contests - you can play great and make money, via sponsorships, contests, but if don't play well, guess what - you won't do well.
As for various gyms, yes - they do pay homage to the Weider's - albeit hardcore gyms, but in newer gyms, they cater more to the mainstream, as it is a business and their clientele is different.
Like it or not not, the Weider's built bodybuilding into the mainstream thinking, and it has evolved. Respect.
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You are right - if an athlete did not place anymore, grew too old, and could not compete anymore, another one came along. True.
Same with any other sport - whether surfing, Olympics sports, football, etc - that is what happens. Many competitors are independent athletes -
Just like the video game industry right now, or the poker world contests - you can play great and make money, via sponsorships, contests, but if don't play well, guess what - you won't do well.
As for various gyms, yes - they do pay homage to the Weider's - albeit hardcore gyms, but in newer gyms, they cater more to the mainstream, as it is a business and their clientele is different.
Like it or not not, the Weider's built bodybuilding into the mainstream thinking, and it has evolved. Respect.
Do you throw out your best posters when they no longer post as well as they used to? No. You let them come back. You've let everyone come back and given 2nd, 3rd, 4th chances. Did you ever get involved in the endless drama that happens between your members? No. You've stayed above the fray from an Olympian height while looking down at the ants eat each other alive, like a fair and impartial judge should. That's the kind of business I'd like to work for. People are still people even when they're not as useful as they used to be. It's simply a difference of opinion on how current or former personnel of the IFBB should be treated. It's not a judgment of their business skill, which no one disputes. You saw similar comments about Walmart and McDonald's for years until they improved employee pay and offered more full-time work under relentless pressure from the media and current and former employees.
The hardcore gyms like Metroflex probably have photos of Joe. I'm sure others do, too. But those are bodybuilding gyms. They have to give credit to the man who gave them bodybuilding. I was simply suggesting the fitness industry and modern, state-of-the-art gyms probably don't feel their industry owes anything to the Weider brothers, who after all produced athletes that account for a minuscule percentage of the weight lifting population. Gyms were coming out at the end of Arnold's career beyond the Venice scene and would've happened without him, as well.
Other than that, I have nothing to say but this movie looks pretty silly from the cover art alone, since Weider - fit though he undoubtedly was - was no bodybuilder in the sense that we understand it today. His talent was recruiting and coaching real ones and making money off their toil and effort.
That's just my 2c. Keep on posting, we like seeing you active here for non-contest threads.
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So the storyline is:
Joe likes men to peel and is a cuck
Ben dates Oscar State
Arnold does Betty dirty while Joe watches
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Do you throw out your best posters when they no longer post as well as they used to? No. You let them come back. You've let everyone come back and given 2nd, 3rd, 4th chances. Did you ever get involved in the endless drama that happens between your members? No. You've stayed above the fray from an Olympian height while looking down at the ants eat each other alive, like a fair and impartial judge should. That's the kind of business I'd like to work for. People are still people even when they're not as useful as they used to be. It's simply a difference of opinion on how current or former personnel of the IFBB should be treated. It's not a judgment of their business skill, which no one disputes. You saw similar comments about Walmart and McDonald's for years until they improved employee pay and offered more full-time work under relentless pressure from the media and current and former employees.
The hardcore gyms like Metroflex probably have photos of Joe. I'm sure others do, too. But those are bodybuilding gyms. They have to give credit to the man who gave them bodybuilding. I was simply suggesting the fitness industry and modern, state-of-the-art gyms probably don't feel their industry owes anything to the Weider brothers, who after all produced athletes that account for a minuscule percentage of the weight lifting population. Gyms were coming out at the end of Arnold's career beyond the Venice scene and would've happened without him, as well.
Other than that, I have nothing to say but this movie looks pretty silly from the cover art alone, since Weider - fit though he undoubtedly was - was no bodybuilder in the sense that we understand it today. His talent was recruiting and coaching real ones and making money off their toil and effort.
That's just my 2c. Keep on posting, we like seeing you active here for non-contest threads.
Shit, thankfully he doesn't. I go through ebbs and flows.
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Do you throw out your best posters when they no longer post as well as they used to? No. You let them come back. You've let everyone come back and given 2nd, 3rd, 4th chances. Did you ever get involved in the endless drama that happens between your members? No. You've stayed above the fray from an Olympian height while looking down at the ants eat each other alive, like a fair and impartial judge should. That's the kind of business I'd like to work for. People are still people even when they're not as useful as they used to be. It's simply a difference of opinion on how current or former personnel of the IFBB should be treated. It's not a judgment of their business skill, which no one disputes. You saw similar comments about Walmart and McDonald's for years until they improved employee pay and offered more full-time work under relentless pressure from the media and current and former employees.
Correct, I usually try to see the good in everyone - whether or not they know it. But posting is one things, competing in a physique contest or sport is another.
The hardcore gyms like Metroflex probably have photos of Joe. I'm sure others do, too. But those are bodybuilding gyms. They have to give credit to the man who gave them bodybuilding. I was simply suggesting the fitness industry and modern, state-of-the-art gyms probably don't feel their industry owes anything to the Weider brothers, who after all produced athletes that account for a minuscule percentage of the weight lifting population. Gyms were coming out at the end of Arnold's career beyond the Venice scene and would've happened without him, as well.
They don't because they don't know about the history - just like high school kids don't even know or care about Elvis, even though he was a game changer in music.
Other than that, I have nothing to say but this movie looks pretty silly from the cover art alone, since Weider - fit though he undoubtedly was - was no bodybuilder in the sense that we understand it today. His talent was recruiting and coaching real ones and making money off their toil and effort. That's just my 2c. Keep on posting, we like seeing you active here for non-contest threads.
Lets keep an open mind until we actually see the movie - then, if it isnt good, criticize away. Yes, I am trying to post more, but with work so crazy, and various events and family, hard to.
Olympia in 2 1/2 weeks - Vegas bound!
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Wow - same old story over the years, except that Joe & Ben Weider built an empire of bodybuilding around the globe, and rose up from being kicked and laughed at to building an empire. Bottom line, like it or not, they are the key history that built bodybuilding into the mainstream at the time, and brought up many, including Arnold and others. Bottom line, before them, there were no gyms in every hotel, every city, every school - there were dingy places to work out of. These two, with their way, brought it out, and built an industry.
Yes, the contests, the expos, and much more is truly helped by them.
You think garbage because that is all that you can think - you don't like the mass monsters, as you think symmetry and balance, while the freaks of the sport, aka Arnold and others brought in a lot.
You may not like them, but I truly respect what they built, and the empire of magazines, contests and supplements that came via it in all corners. We can go into debate on those, but that is for another topic, which you can bring back up, and we can discuss again.
As for now, this is the new poster, of a movie which has succeeded to be made, which is great.
Now, on a personal level, I had the time to meet and talk to BOTH Ben and Joe Weider over the years, and they both, each separately, showed me great respect. In any business you build, of course you have various ways of advertising, but that is no different than any other business and sport today too.
Joe, Ben and Arnold -
In 1997, the Olympia has held in Long Beach with some booth around the venue. Same with the Arnold back then.
Today, these two events and contests are huge, and I am glad to have been able to see them grow
I know who they are, dude. Yeesh. I’m making a point.
Joe ripped people off in the printing field to the tune of millions.
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Shit, thankfully he doesn't. I go through ebbs and flows.
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"Ebs and Flos"...Reads like a liberal white version of those two wonderful conservative black ladies, Diamond and Silk. I'm going to Hebrew Hades (Sheol, not Chicago!) for that one, huh? ;D
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ill have to watch it
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whats with the wall of texts?
what the hell is kwon3 bitching about? grown men that cant take care of their own health insurance? need a babysitter through their whole adult life? grown men who when they are not on the top, will not be on the covers anymore? no shit einstein.
thats like blaming boxing for not having tomato cans have a career after a dozen losses!
and of course - grown men who are TRICKED to buy protein powder, again, nobody can apparantely make a decision of their own.
at least not in the world kwon lives. is he in venuzuela? there's a stench of communism that goes along with his every post.
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Joe Weider had a good physique when young. He also was a fair weightlifter.
(http://www.joeweider.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/121.jpg)
(https://musclemecca.com/imported-images/2008/12/25flex4-1.jpg)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=488638.0;attach=531212;image)
(https://www.joeweider.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/b004.jpg)
Betty was hot as heck. Here she is getting some wood.
(http://www.oldpicz.com/picz/2017/03/Vintage-photos-of-Betty-Brosmer-the-girl-with-the-impossibly-small-waist-13.jpg)
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ahahahaha
joe weider isnt responsible for making gyms mainstream, that dubious honor belongs to Arthur Jones, whom weider would continue to copy and follow in a mercenary fashion for decades. Of course we will never get a movie about Jones, despite him being the infinitely more interesting character. What am I going to watch this for? Hollywood movie #40405050 that lionizes an exploitative jew as if he had a brilliant vision instead of blindly stumbling into it? ::)
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A friend who wrote for Schmoe Weider said all he got was free ad space in the Mags, and that was good enough for him, he took advantage of it and made good money off his supplements.
He happened to know how to self promote, was (is still) driven and makes a good living still. (Now in movies). Said Joe was a good guy who never promised more than what he gave, was right out on the table.
Some of the old delusional BB's thought they needed to be paid to be in the Mags. Delusional. Do you think the African women with the swinging jugs got paid to be in National Geographic?
Get a job and promote yourselves ya lazy bums. :)
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That tagline is horrendous.
“He” ... but then, “they”? Who’s they?
This’ll absolutely blow.
He, as in Mel Tormé, They, as in Venom Vince and Vissy.
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A biopic about a man who spent his entire career making millions on the backs of men who were paid crumbs and several of whom Joe didn't visit or care for when they lay dying in the hospital, like his former star athlete Mike Matarazzo. Joe and Ben were like two mob bosses who ran a crime syndicate based on a scam which promoted the illusion that using their useless, chemical products could promote the physiques of the superstars peddled in the magazines and ads found in various newsstands and gyms across the world. They offered their athletes no health insurance, favored some over others at the Olympia stage based on their loyalty and cooperation with the brothers, and disgraced a sport that was once focused on achieving the pinnacle of balance, symmetry, and conditioning in favor of health-destroying, stomach-busting monstrosities that we see on stage today. In short, they destroyed bodybuilding. How can you promote this garbage on your site? You're better than this, Ron. I know you work in this industry and you're beloved for your larger-than-life personality and easy-going manner at seminars, expos, contests. Many athletes owe you for the exposure you afforded them with your photos. But the Weider brothers were the black stains on this business. They don't deserve our respect or our money anymore.
Just like Oprah made his career by standing on the heads of little people.
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Calum looks like shit. They should have photoshopped his horrible arms.
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Vince McMahon probably did more for the 'athletes' in terms of finances. Joe looked after number 1 from what I believe. No harm in that, if people allow it to happen, more fool them.
Actually these days, gyms are packed out mainly because of reality TV shows. That's what I truly believe.
Most young guys want to be out banging chicks like the guys on Jersey Shore/ Geordie Shore. Theyre not interested in becoming the next great NFL player, other than a minority.
They want to look like these guys on the TV shows, all buff and preened to look great. This is what sadly motivates young men now.
It was Arnold who motivated me back 15 years ago, and I remember everyone in gyms wore baggy t shirts and just lifted.
Now its groups of kids in nice clothes doing endless curls looking in the mirror, and young women desperately wanting to get that great ass from lunges.
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TL;DR. Who's playing Betty and does she do porn? (asking for a friend) ;D
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TL;DR. Who's playing Betty and does she do porn? (asking for a friend) ;D
0:54 - Julianne Hough
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If they're not going to touch the "secret "use of steroids in Bodybuilding, I hope they at least present the female bodybuilding part of the industry, Cory Everson was popular back in the 80s.
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Calum looks like shit. They should have photoshopped hid horrible arms.
I'm actually surprised how below average his FDB looks there.
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TL;DR. Who's playing Betty and does she do porn? (asking for a friend) ;D
Regarding to Nubret (on IronAge) & Padilla , Betty never took part in post Olympia party in South Africa.
Franco was dress as a little school girl ;D
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Who financed, and who produced?...
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Here is the new poster of the Bigger Movie
Ron , How can they leave the iconic mustache of the master blaster out of the damn picture ?
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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That Mustache had Wifi even before Wifi was available goddammit !
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Magnun PI
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Who wore it better ?
WooOSHHHH BIGOTE
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So the storyline is:
Joe likes men to peel and is a cuck
Ben dates Oscar State
Arnold does Betty dirty while Joe watches
Hi Vince !.
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0:54 - Julianne Hough
That's my man ;D Thanks for the info.
I would assemble her flat-pack sofah for free :P
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0:54 - Julianne Hough
That Hough broad turns my crank. I love her voice, too.
Of course, she’s a retard. Listen to her talk in that clip. Same ol’ feminist nonsense: “empowering, powerful”.
Yawn.
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A biopic about a man who spent his entire career making millions on the backs of men who were paid crumbs and several of whom Joe didn't visit or care for when they lay dying in the hospital, like his former star athlete Mike Matarazzo. Joe and Ben were like two mob bosses who ran a crime syndicate based on a scam which promoted the illusion that using their useless, chemical products could promote the physiques of the superstars peddled in the magazines and ads found in various newsstands and gyms across the world. They offered their athletes no health insurance, favored some over others at the Olympia stage based on their loyalty and cooperation with the brothers, and disgraced a sport that was once focused on achieving the pinnacle of balance, symmetry, and conditioning in favor of health-destroying, stomach-busting monstrosities that we see on stage today. In short, they destroyed bodybuilding. How can you promote this garbage on your site? You're better than this, Ron. I know you work in this industry and you're beloved for your larger-than-life personality and easy-going manner at seminars, expos, contests. Many athletes owe you for the exposure you afforded them with your photos. But the Weider brothers were the black stains on this business. They don't deserve our respect or our money anymore.
Massive meltdown. Lighten up bra. You must be a hoot at partys!
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Ron posting frequent up in this thread like never seen before :o
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Betty Weider was much hotter than Hough.
An inverse of the usual Hollyweird casting.
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whats with the wall of texts?
what the hell is kwon3 bitching about? grown men that cant take care of their own health insurance? need a babysitter through their whole adult life? grown men who when they are not on the top, will not be on the covers anymore? no shit einstein.
thats like blaming boxing for not having tomato cans have a career after a dozen losses!
and of course - grown men who are TRICKED to buy protein powder, again, nobody can apparantely make a decision of their own.
at least not in the world kwon lives. is he in venuzuela? there's a stench of communism that goes along with his every post.
You pretended to be dead on a bodybuilding board for attention.
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=646765.0 (http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=646765.0)
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Massive meltdown. Lighten up bra. You must be a hoot at partys!
You're generally not a very bright guy, Ted. You prove it with every reply that deflects the points you're quoting in whoever you're talking to, in this case me.
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Just like Oprah made his career by standing on the heads of little people.
Well 95% of her audience was female, so that actually makes sense. An idiot and his money are soon parted, as they say. Ain't love grand? Hahaha.
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You pretended to be dead on a bodybuilding board for attention.
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=646765.0 (http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=646765.0)
bwahahahhahahaha
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You are right - if an athlete did not place anymore, grew too old, and could not compete anymore, another one came along. True.
Same with any other sport - whether surfing, Olympics sports, football, etc - that is what happens. Many competitors are independent athletes -
Just like the video game industry right now, or the poker world contests - you can play great and make money, via sponsorships, contests, but if don't play well, guess what - you won't do well.
As for various gyms, yes - they do pay homage to the Weider's - albeit hardcore gyms, but in newer gyms, they cater more to the mainstream, as it is a business and their clientele is different.
Like it or not not, the Weider's built bodybuilding into the mainstream thinking, and it has evolved. Respect.
This is how it is with EVERYTHING! Not just sports and athletes but EVERYTHING and EVERYBODY! I hear the same complaints in MMA. Name one bber whose sincere goal in life was to become a Mr. Whatever that would have been better off if there was no Joe Weider?
It's a business relationship. Joe promoted Arnold because Arnold benefitted Joe. So what? And Arnold signed the deal because it benefited him. It changed his life. What aspiring bodybuilder wouldn't have killed to be flown to America, set up in an apartment, given a car, a salary...
And when they can no longer perform. When they are no longer a benefit to the company it's bye-bye. It's called retirement. There is a guy at work who was recently forced to retire. The guy was 85, senile, could barely hear, literally shuffled around in pain and was pretty worthless as an employee. He literally did nothing productive. He would drive the forklift back and forth picking up and shuffling pallets around. He refused to help anybody.
Why should a company pay him a salary? So he's gone. What his life is now is not the company's responsibility. Nor should it be? They provided him with a very generous 401k deal but it's his responsibility to plan for his future.
Weider never discarded Arnold because Arnold was always productive. Robby Robinson always bitches about how he was taken advantage of and left out to dry. Would Robby have been better off if there was no Joe Weider? Weider gave Robby an opportunity, the best opportunity anybody could give, before or since. It was up to him what he made of it. And even though he's no Arnold he still makes a decent living off his bbing career. Never had to work a typical bullshit job where you have to punch in every morning and take orders from others and get watched all day. And do it day after day after day.
It's never about what you think somebody else should pay or get paid. Give or get. It's each party trying to get the best deal given the alternatives. You weren't going anywhere hooking up with Bob Hoffman. Other organizations tried to usurp Weider but they all failed.
There was a reason everybody wanted to be under contract to Weider. He'd make your career. He could change your life for the better if you can help make his company better.
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I can’t believe this isn’t just some straight to Netflix thing. I’m sure it will bomb.
What’s the over/under on trench coat wearing schmoes in the theater? They’ll be cleaning lots of “popcorn butter” off the floors for sure.
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Shit, thankfully he doesn't. I go through ebbs and flows.
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And it doesn't cost him a dime whether they post or not. We don't work for Ron.
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a great movie (drama) could be made out of the whole bb scene only if truthful to real events, g4p (Kai), lying (Arnold), scheming (Milos), health related issues (Matarazzo, Ronnnie...), murders (Titus, Fox...), suicide/murder (Benoit) and so on, were portrayed.
You would need a good writer and several years to develop a somewhat meaningful script.
I'm gonna watch biggeR flop, with joy...
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a great movie (drama) could be made out of the whole bb scene only if truthful to real events, g4p (Kai), lying (Arnold), scheming (Milos), health related issues (Matarazzo, Ronnnie...), murders (Titus, Fox...), suicide/murder (Benoit) and so on, were portrayed.
You would need a good writer and several years to develop a somewhat meaningful script.
I'm gonna watch biggeR flop, with joy...
Would also love to see that barnburner, about the Kamali Titus-feud, Titus and Betil Fox-murders, The Mirage Ice Machine, The partying at that Sound thing-club, The Milos-Milamar-Nasser Drama, Schmoeing with grass-stained sneakers etc etc
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yeah, the drug scene has to be shown just like in 'The Wrestler'. Not the main point but a daily routine...
I loved that movie btw.
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ilian, A few of us (3 in fact) were going to write such a book as you have mentioned above.
It would have been factual shit that each of us had been personally involve with or personally participated within, but we were told that we would more than possibly not be around if it was ever published.
But it is an evident fact that most GetBiggers like to read about bodybuilding shit that never really happened and it was our intent to be totally honest and factual ..... so if it ever did get printed ... most GetBiggers would never read it.
We all seem to enjoy ice-machines and brown, paper, bags and those type endeavors were not enough to get beyond the very first chapter.
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ilian, A few of us (3 in fact) were going to write such a book as you have mentioned above.
It would have been factual shit that each of us had been personally involve with or personally participated within, but we were told that we would more than possibly not be around if it was ever published.
But it is an evident fact that most GetBiggers like to read about bodybuilding shit that never really happened and it was our intent to be totally honest and factual ..... so if it ever did get printed ... most GetBiggers would never read it.
We all seem to enjoy ice-machines and brown, paper, bags and those type endeavors were not enough to get beyond the very first chapter.
Use ghost writers or pseudonyms
Write the Book
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Weider never discarded Arnold because Arnold was always productive. Robby Robinson always bitches about how he was taken advantage of and left out to dry. Would Robby have been better off if there was no Joe Weider? Weider gave Robby an opportunity, the best opportunity anybody could give, before or since. It was up to him what he made of it. And even though he's no Arnold he still makes a decent living off his bbing career. Never had to work a typical bullshit job where you have to punch in every morning and take orders from others and get watched all day. And do it day after day after day.
It's never about what you think somebody else should pay or get paid. Give or get. It's each party trying to get the best deal given the alternatives. You weren't going anywhere hooking up with Bob Hoffman. Other organizations tried to usurp Weider but they all failed.
Everyone sacrifices every alternative for opportunity they end up pursuing. If it doesn't turn out as they hoped, you can understand how they might become resentful. You, Ron, others just have less sympathy for the losers than Kwon, who more readily recognizes the sacrifice that the failures made, too.
Like anabolichalo recognized, seems the classic debate between capitalism/communism is just finding another front here.
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What is this mess? Why does it look like Joe Weider discovered Arnold in 1860s New York City?
Why is Von Moger unbilled? And he doesn’t get a single line in the trailer. It’s like they decided a bodybuilding movie would never sell so instead made a film noir detective thriller with D-list actors.. Shocking.
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Thanks. Was expecting worse from the trailer.
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this trailer was edited on a phone by one of the "producer's" kid. dumb as rocks.
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What is this mess? Why does it look like Joe Weider discovered Arnold in 1860s New York City?
Why is Von Moger unbilled? And he doesn’t get a single line in the trailer. It’s like they decided a bodybuilding movie would never sell so instead made a film noir detective thriller with D-list actors.. Shocking.
I thought the same thing. It’s like they bought out the entire lot of “Boardwalk Empires” set when it finished up to get it on the cheap.
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That's a pose I haven't seen anyone pull it off like Arnold did ... And it's been more than 40 years.
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Who financed, and who produced?...
WHO is playing Basil !?.
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That's a pose I haven't seen anyone pull it off like Arnold did ... And it's been more than 40 years.
Moger has his legs posed incorrectly.
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Cx0r7XTujtM/hqdefault.jpg)
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The movie opened today in various theaters around L.A.:
https://mobile.fandango.com/bigger-2018-213152/movie-times?date=2018-10-13
It’s also playing in New York City, not sure where else. It is not playing here (yet, and may never) in northeast Ohio.
Check your local listings.
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Been to Joe’s house several times around ‘91 to fix his cable. He was never there, just his two Filipino housekeepers Jim and Elia. His house was like a museum with art and sculptures from around the world. I even trained a little bit at the gym in his guesthouse.
One Saturday l was in area and stopped by on a whim. His housekeeper Elia answered the door. She knew me and got Joe, who happened to be home, to come to the door. I said l was a big bodybuilding fan and just wanted to meet him.
He invited me in and we sat at the table in his backyard talking about bodybuilding and life in general. I have no doubt that Joe was a cutthroat businessman, but l can say that he truly loved bodybuilding. And he didn’t have to take the time to speak to a “nobody” like me, especially not for an hour.
He really did have that fucked up sounding voice that Samir used to imitate so well. He also had this nearly constant twitch in his right eye.
When l was getting up to leave, Betty showed up and Joe introduced me to her. She was actually very nice and gracious. She suggested Joe give me a year’s subscription to either M&F or FLEX. I chose FLEX of course. My first issue came in the mail the following month... 🙂
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Moger has his legs posed incorrectly.
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Cx0r7XTujtM/hqdefault.jpg)
Or the waist twisted downwards. Moger seems to not pay attention to the little details.
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I think it opens tonight at San Francisco's "$6.90 a carload DirtStar Drive-In".
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Yeh.....they should just release it at the TOMKAT gay porn moviehouse here in LA. Or project it onto a wall at Roman Holiday gay bathhouse here in LA too. Lots of schmoes and handjobs happening in the audiencs during this movie.
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It's playing here in Tampa also.
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That looks so awkward/ unbalanced & unlike anything Arnold would do.
Jeez if they can’t even get Arnold’s poses correct not much hope for the
Rest of the film for accuracy.
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So the storyline is:
Joe likes men to peel and is a cuck
Ben dates Oscar State
Arnold does Betty dirty while Joe watches
Seems about right.
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Here's one broken down old man's opinion...
Ben & Joe Weider made HUNDRED'S OF MILLIONS of dollars off bodybuilding while thousands of competitive bodybuilders languished in poverty for decades devoting their lives to the art of bodybuilding.
I seriously doubt there is anyone in any sport, that has ever prospered so much and given back so little.
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That looks so awkward/ unbalanced & unlike anything Arnold would do.
Jeez if they can’t even get Arnold’s poses correct not much hope for the
Rest of the film for accuracy.
Exactly my thinking. Who the hell is producing this movie that they cant even get basic poses right? ::) ::)
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WTF is this pose? idiots. including Mongrel.
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I'm pretty sure Arnie approved of his Stunt double?
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Here's one broken down old man's opinion...
Ben & Joe Weider made HUNDRED'S OF MILLIONS of dollars off bodybuilding while thousands of competitive bodybuilders languished in poverty for decades devoting their lives to the art of bodybuilding.
I seriously doubt there is anyone in any sport, that has ever prospered so much and given back so little.
wonder why he hates the NFL
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this guy did the most for pro bodybuilders... without him and his wbf foray weider could have kept contest money down and contracts would be non existent. was this and his battles with lurie and hoffman covered in the movie.
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The Weiders were dirty schmoesome jews
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The home box office report is in !
Sadly, The numbers are red. A little over $ 30,000 in weekend release.
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Good stuff!!!! And you yourself look to be getting into some new good shape...if I am seeing correctly.
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The movie Bigger, about Joe Weider and Arnold, opened October 12th in 61 theaters across the US. Last Friday that number was cut down to 5. To date the movie has only grossed $46,000 at the box office.
Compare that to the space movie First Man which opened the same day and has now grossed $31,000,000. A $46,000 box office take doesn’t even qualify as pitiful!
My question is, did ANYONE on this board see Bigger, and if so, please inform us what it was like.
Also that weekend, and last, the bodybuilder/trans documentary movie Transformer opened in a handful of theaters in select cities. It has apparently not even grossed enough to make the box office reports. Like above, did ANYONE see it?
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Disclosure: neither movie played or is playing here in the Cleveland/northeast Ohio where I currently am located. Otherwise I would have gone to see them.
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Don't worry. Bohemian Rhapsody has dropped in theatres for those who are thirsty for queer content. Great music but little interest in seeing men make out on screen.
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Both sound like gay porn movies. ::)