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Title: Who wrote the anonymous NYT Op Ed
Post by: Straw Man on September 06, 2018, 12:39:42 PM
Wow.  What a cluster fuck.
I'm surprised no one has made a thread about this totally unprecedented event.

I have no idea who wrote it but it was obviously one of those "best people" that Trump promised to hire.
Title: Re: Who wrote the anonymous NYT Op Ed
Post by: Straw Man on September 06, 2018, 12:47:16 PM
Anybody can fire but it takes skill to hire
Trumps too much if a pussy to even do the firing.

It's been fun watching all the denials today.

Title: Re: Who wrote the anonymous NYT Op Ed
Post by: Pray_4_War on September 06, 2018, 01:30:32 PM
The Joos.
Title: Re: Who wrote the anonymous NYT Op Ed
Post by: Thin Lizzy on September 06, 2018, 02:23:30 PM
Obviously, many people who he thought were outside of the swamp are actually part of it. Jeff Sessions is a good example. He gets the gig and immediately recuses himself from the Russian probe which has been dragging on for years.
Title: Re: Who wrote the anonymous NYT Op Ed
Post by: Straw Man on September 06, 2018, 02:44:36 PM
Obviously, many people who he thought were outside of the swamp are actually part of it. Jeff Sessions is a good example. He gets the gig and immediately recuses himself from the Russian probe which has been dragging on for years.

LOL - so much bullshit in one post

First, Sessions was just following Justice Department regulations

Quote
Title 28, Chapter I, Section 45.2 of the Code of Federal Regulation, titled "Disqualification arising from personal or political relationship."

(a) Unless authorized under paragraph (b) of this section, no employee shall participate in a criminal investigation or prosecution if he has a personal or political relationship with:

(1) Any person or organization substantially involved in the conduct that is the subject of the investigation or prosecution; or

(2) Any person or organization which he knows has a specific and substantial interest that would be directly affected by the outcome of the investigation or prosecution.


(b) An employee assigned to or otherwise participating in a criminal investigation or prosecution who believes that his participation may be prohibited by paragraph (a) of this section shall report the matter and all attendant facts and circumstances to his supervisor at the level of section chief or the equivalent or higher. If the supervisor determines that a personal or political relationship exists between the employee and a person or organization described in paragraph (a) of this section, he shall relieve the employee from participation unless he determines further, in writing, after full consideration of all the facts and circumstances, that:

(1) The relationship will not have the effect of rendering the employee's service less than fully impartial and professional; and

(2) The employee's participation would not create an appearance of a conflict of interest likely to affect the public perception of the integrity of the investigation or prosecution.


(c) For the purposes of this section:

(1) Political relationship means a close identification with an elected official, a candidate (whether or not successful) for elective, public office, a political party, or a campaign organization, arising from service as a principal adviser thereto or a principal official thereof; and

(2) Personal relationship means a close and substantial connection of the type normally viewed as likely to induce partiality. An employee is presumed to have a personal relationship with his father, mother, brother, sister, child and spouse. Whether relationships (including friendships) of an employee to other persons or organizations are ''personal'' must be judged on an individual basis with due regard given to the subjective opinion of the employee.

(d) This section pertains to agency management and is not intended to create rights enforceable by private individuals or organizations.

Second, "dragging on for years".  Mueller's only been investigating for about since~ June of 2017 .

Prior to that the FBI started investigating just prior to the election

How long did Whitewater "drag on" for again?
Title: Re: Who wrote the anonymous NYT Op Ed
Post by: Board_SHERIF on September 06, 2018, 02:45:31 PM
Wow.  What a cluster fuck.
I'm surprised no one has made a thread about this totally unprecedented event.

I have no idea who wrote it but it was obviously one of those "best people" that Trump promised to hire.

Once again you are a Fake News Victim, do you ever learn ??
Title: Re: Who wrote the anonymous NYT Op Ed
Post by: chaos on September 06, 2018, 06:56:11 PM
Completely fabricated bullshit with no authenticity. What a waste of time and energy even discussing it. ::)
Title: Re: Who wrote the anonymous NYT Op Ed
Post by: Irongrip400 on September 06, 2018, 07:40:11 PM
Say who one mo got-damn time, I dare you.  I double dog dare you!
Title: Re: Who wrote the anonymous NYT Op Ed
Post by: Moontrane on September 06, 2018, 08:03:56 PM
Based on the quality of the writing, I'd say an 8th grader.
Title: Re: Who wrote the anonymous NYT Op Ed
Post by: Straw Man on September 06, 2018, 08:22:29 PM
Completely fabricated bullshit with no authenticity. What a waste of time and energy even discussing it. ::)

Once again you are a Fake News Victim, do you ever learn ??

cool

I didn't know you had proof if was "fake"

please post.  looking forward to seeing that
Title: Re: Who wrote the anonymous NYT Op Ed
Post by: chaos on September 06, 2018, 08:39:35 PM
cool

I didn't know you had proof if was "fake"

please post.  looking forward to seeing that
Right after you post proof it's fact. ::)
Title: Re: Who wrote the anonymous NYT Op Ed
Post by: Straw Man on September 06, 2018, 08:43:00 PM
Right after you post proof it's fact. ::)

of course we agree that it's printed in the NYT

can we start there?
Title: Re: Who wrote the anonymous NYT Op Ed
Post by: Straw Man on September 08, 2018, 11:17:12 AM
Completely fabricated bullshit with no authenticity. What a waste of time and energy even discussing it. ::)

Once again you are a Fake News Victim, do you ever learn ??

WTF is Trump wasting his time trying to find out who wrote the Op Ed

Hasn't he read on GB.com that it's "completely fabricated bullshit"?

It's Fake News.   Does he ever learn?

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/09/08/trump-eyes-four-or-five-people-who-may-be-behind-anonymous-nyt-article.html
Title: Re: Who wrote the anonymous NYT Op Ed
Post by: chaos on September 08, 2018, 01:32:18 PM
WTF is Trump wasting his time trying to find out who wrote the Op Ed

Hasn't he read on GB.com that it's "completely fabricated bullshit"?

It's Fake News.   Does he ever learn?

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/09/08/trump-eyes-four-or-five-people-who-may-be-behind-anonymous-nyt-article.html
The story was about as credible as the Russia/Trump collusion. Both a waste of time and money to even pay attention to. ::)
Title: Re: Who wrote the anonymous NYT Op Ed
Post by: Straw Man on September 08, 2018, 03:38:41 PM
The story was about as credible as the Russia/Trump collusion. Both a waste of time and money to even pay attention to. ::)

tell that to Trump

He seems pretty obsessed and even called it treason

He even wants Sessions to investigate
Title: Re: Who wrote the anonymous NYT Op Ed
Post by: chaos on September 08, 2018, 07:43:53 PM
tell that to Trump

He seems pretty obsessed and even called it treason

He even wants Sessions to investigate
OK, you got his number?
Title: Re: Who wrote the anonymous NYT Op Ed
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 09, 2018, 07:55:18 AM
cool

I didn't know you had proof if was "fake"

please post.  looking forward to seeing that

Because it’s been denied by the ones named i it  :o
Title: Re: Who wrote the anonymous NYT Op Ed
Post by: Pray_4_War on September 09, 2018, 10:01:51 AM
Who wrote the anonymous NYT Op Ed?

Some jealous phaggot.
Title: Re: Who wrote the anonymous NYT Op Ed
Post by: Straw Man on September 09, 2018, 10:26:01 AM
Because it’s been denied by the ones named i it  :o

how does that make it "fake"

and if it's so obviously "fake" then why is Trumptard so fucking stupid that he still thinks someone in his administration wrote it?
Title: Re: Who wrote the anonymous NYT Op Ed
Post by: Straw Man on September 09, 2018, 10:26:52 AM
Some jealous phaggot.

what part of the editorial make you think he/she was jealous ?
Title: Re: Who wrote the anonymous NYT Op Ed
Post by: Straw Man on September 09, 2018, 10:28:14 AM
OK, you got his number?

just call Fox and Friends and tell them it's fake and have them say it on the air

Trumptard will be sure to see it and then he'll be able to relax and get back giving himself A+'s and tweeting about the NFL
Title: Re: Who wrote the anonymous NYT Op Ed
Post by: chaos on September 09, 2018, 12:32:36 PM
just call Fox and Friends and tell them it's fake and have them say it on the air

Trumptard will be sure to see it and then he'll be able to relax and get back giving himself A+'s and tweeting about the NFL
I called cnn instead, they're spending hundreds of thousands to convince their sheeple it's real.
Title: Re: Who wrote the anonymous NYT Op Ed
Post by: Kwon3 on September 10, 2018, 12:35:25 AM
If you ask me as a Trump supporter, I think he's handling this completely the wrong way. The ideal way to eliminate a story is to ignore it, especially if it's from a bastion of liberal disinformation like the NYT. By talking about it during his speeches on the campaign trail for Republicans running for re-election as well as that impromptu exchange with the press in the White House the other day, he's bolstering the article author's credibility and allowing the issue to simmer in the minds of not only his enemies but some of his supporters as well. If it's false, why respond to it? I think the President got it wrong here.
Title: Re: Who wrote the anonymous NYT Op Ed
Post by: Kwon3 on September 10, 2018, 12:39:36 AM
The man is a one man revolution of precedents

 refusal to release tax returns,
praise for authoritarian leaders,
nasty tweets
unsigned op-eds


all shit aside the man must be in a very lonely situation


The only thing in that list that's relevant to his character and qualifications for the office is the failure to release tax returns. His claim that they were being audited - while never disproven by the IRS - was not considered a valid reason to withhold them by the commissioner of that government agency, when asked in 2016. Every President since Nixon has released them, and to her credit, so did Clinton and that idiot Elizabeth Warren. I realize Trump has something he doesn't want made public in those financial statements, but as the head of state it seems the priorities of the country and presidential precedent should override business considerations and image concerns. Legally, he was under no obligation to do so, but he should've come out and simply said he wouldn't release them, period. He flip-flopped and vacillated on it and then just buried the story. I do think he dropped the ball there, despite doing good things in many other ways, not the least of which was keeping the Clinton and Bush dynasty out of the White House.
Title: Re: Who wrote the anonymous NYT Op Ed
Post by: Pray_4_War on September 10, 2018, 05:15:00 AM
what part of the editorial make you think he/she was jealous ?

All of it.  All the parts.
Title: Re: Who wrote the anonymous NYT Op Ed
Post by: Straw Man on September 10, 2018, 09:44:38 AM
All of it.  All the parts.

translation = you haven't even read it
Title: Re: Who wrote the anonymous NYT Op Ed
Post by: Agnostic007 on September 11, 2018, 10:18:35 PM
It's kind of sad people are more focused on who wrote it than what the message was
Title: Re: Who wrote the anonymous NYT Op Ed
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 11, 2018, 10:37:57 PM
It's kind of sad people are more focused on who wrote it than what the message was

Maybe because the persons named have vehemently denied it and the author is anonymous. Besides, who gives a shit?
Title: Re: Who wrote the anonymous NYT Op Ed
Post by: Agnostic007 on September 11, 2018, 10:43:05 PM
Maybe because the persons named have vehemently denied it and the author is anonymous.

Could be.. but Even the administration acts like it was someone inside with knowledge so it just seems like what was said should be a concern
Title: Re: Who wrote the anonymous NYT Op Ed
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 12, 2018, 02:24:42 PM
Based on the quality of the writing, I'd say an 8th grader.

In that case, we can narrow it down to three candidates :

1 -  Trump, himself.
2 - Pence
3 - Melania Trump.

I would have suspected that McCain might have authored it, but even posthumously he still has more brain cells than those three.
Title: Re: Who wrote the anonymous NYT Op Ed
Post by: Straw Man on September 12, 2018, 02:44:21 PM
Maybe because the persons named have vehemently denied it and the author is anonymous. Besides, who gives a shit?

This "fucking moron" reportedly gives a shit. Maybe even two or three shits
Title: Re: Who wrote the anonymous NYT Op Ed
Post by: chaos on September 12, 2018, 04:42:06 PM
Could be.. but Even the administration acts like it was someone inside with knowledge so it just seems like what was said should be a concern
If an "anonymous source" in your department supposedly wrote a letter to the local paper bashing you when you were supposedly some lead copper, would you look into it or just shrug it off?
Title: Re: Who wrote the anonymous NYT Op Ed
Post by: Agnostic007 on September 12, 2018, 08:57:48 PM
Completely fabricated bullshit with no authenticity. What a waste of time and energy even discussing it. ::)


To answer your question about a insider writing an op ed about a police leader... IF I thought it was fabricated and did not really come from someone high up, I certainly wouldn't spend any time trying to figure out what imaginary official wrote it. My point was, the Administration seems to be treating it as authentic by trying to find out which one of them wrote it. They wouldn't be doing that if they really thought  it was fabricated.
Title: Re: Who wrote the anonymous NYT Op Ed
Post by: chaos on September 12, 2018, 09:02:14 PM

To answer your question about a insider writing an op ed about a police leader... IF I thought it was fabricated and did not really come from someone high up, I certainly wouldn't spend any time trying to figure out what imaginary official wrote it. My point was, the Administration seems to be treating it as authentic by trying to find out which one of them wrote it. They wouldn't be doing that if they really thought  it was fabricated.
Of course not, since saying you would investigate it would prove the point. ::)
Title: Re: Who wrote the anonymous NYT Op Ed
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 12, 2018, 09:09:47 PM
In that case, we can narrow it down to three candidates :

1 -  Trump, himself.
2 - Pence
3 - Melania Trump.

I would have suspected that McCain might have authored it, but even posthumously he still has more brain cells than those three.

Sure cupcake
Title: Re: Who wrote the anonymous NYT Op Ed
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 12, 2018, 09:29:30 PM
Sure cupcake

Absolutely whining ass.
Title: Re: Who wrote the anonymous NYT Op Ed
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 12, 2018, 09:35:59 PM
Absolutely whining ass.

It’s not our party that shooting themselves. Thinking about that
Title: Re: Who wrote the anonymous NYT Op Ed
Post by: Primemuscle on September 13, 2018, 12:54:49 AM
If you ask me as a Trump supporter, I think he's handling this completely the wrong way. The ideal way to eliminate a story is to ignore it, especially if it's from a bastion of liberal disinformation like the NYT. By talking about it during his speeches on the campaign trail for Republicans running for re-election as well as that impromptu exchange with the press in the White House the other day, he's bolstering the article author's credibility and allowing the issue to simmer in the minds of not only his enemies but some of his supporters as well. If it's false, why respond to it? I think the President got it wrong here.

Who knew? You can actually make an intelligent and relevant post on something worth taking about. I'm actually impressed. Maybe it is because I completely agree with you on this. That being said, this is nothing new for the man. His foot is permanently lodged in his mouth and has been for sometime.
Title: Re: Who wrote the anonymous NYT Op Ed
Post by: Agnostic007 on September 13, 2018, 11:37:55 AM
Who knew? You can actually make an intelligent and relevant post on something worth taking about. I'm actually impressed. Maybe it is because I completely agree with you on this. That being said, this is nothing new for the man. His foot is permanently lodged in his mouth and has been for sometime.

His problem (Trump) or one of them is his inability to let...anything....go. Kwon3 is spot on. He brings more heat on himself when he responds to every little negative about him or his administration, often making him look like a little brat
Title: Re: Who wrote the anonymous NYT Op Ed
Post by: Primemuscle on September 13, 2018, 11:47:37 AM
His problem (Trump) or one of them is his inability to let...anything....go. Kwon3 is spot on. He brings more heat on himself when he responds to every little negative about him or his administration, often making him look like a little brat

How's this for stupid?

Title: Re: Who wrote the anonymous NYT Op Ed
Post by: Kwon3 on September 13, 2018, 11:49:01 AM
Who knew? You can actually make an intelligent and relevant post on something worth taking about. I'm actually impressed. Maybe it is because I completely agree with you on this. That being said, this is nothing new for the man. His foot is permanently lodged in his mouth and has been for sometime.

The ability to make critical judgments of someone you deeply support is a hallmark of a thinking conservative. Liberals, by contrast, repeat information spoon fed to them by rote and lack the capacity to objectively confront their leaders and celebrity idols on what they do wrong while extending them full credit for what they do right. You wouldn’t understand the concept since you’re locked into a unilateral private war with this president and conservative values in general.
Title: Re: Who wrote the anonymous NYT Op Ed
Post by: Kwon3 on September 13, 2018, 11:59:22 AM
How's this for stupid?


All true. The deaths came after the report was made. The rabid liberal replies from the communists who respond within seconds of every tweet he makes all miss that point, naturally.
Title: Re: Who wrote the anonymous NYT Op Ed
Post by: Kwon3 on September 13, 2018, 12:11:01 PM
His problem (Trump) or one of them is his inability to let...anything....go. Kwon3 is spot on. He brings more heat on himself when he responds to every little negative about him or his administration, often making him look like a little brat

My support for this President has few equals; to call it “fanatical” doesn’t begin to describe it fully. If he was standing next to me, I’d happily take a gunblast to the face to save his life and spite my family from giving me an open casket funeral in the bargain. If he was accused of murder, I’d enthusiastically claim I did it and do everything humanly possible to prove it in court. The reason has nothing to do with his competency to be commander in chief or his MAGA slogans which are, after all, intended to appeal to a lowbrow audience that’s easily swayed by bread and circuses and emotional appeals to the military and the flag. The real reason is because the people who hate him are the same people who hate me in real life. Feminists, gays, liberals, anarchists, anti-American trash who tar their own country with the brush of guilt and shame for everything and anything under the sun while glorifying the allegedly more humane and socialistic systems found in Europe and Canada while simultaneously and hypocritically inciting foreigners to violate the country’s borders and immigration laws to move to that same country they disparage so readily on twitter and Facebook. In short, he hates who I hate, riles up who I rile up, and unapologetically flips his fat middle finger at half the country and the entire planet. He says what he means and means what he says. He’s the real deal and that’s why even his own officials are trying to tear him down. It’s part of their anti-gun, anti-male, anti-white, anti-constitution philosophy all laced together by ferocious anti-Americanism. For that, I wish death and illness on them and all their fucking families, kids and like minded neighbors.

With all that being said, when he fucks up, I’ll call him out on it.
Title: Re: Who wrote the anonymous NYT Op Ed
Post by: Straw Man on September 13, 2018, 01:28:37 PM
My support for this President has few equals; to call it “fanatical” doesn’t begin to describe it fully. If he was standing next to me, I’d happily take a gunblast to the face to save his life and spite my family from giving me an open casket funeral in the bargain. If he was accused of murder, I’d enthusiastically claim I did it and do everything humanly possible to prove it in court. The reason has nothing to do with his competency to be commander in chief or his MAGA slogans which are, after all, intended to appeal to a lowbrow audience that’s easily swayed by bread and circuses and emotional appeals to the military and the flag. The real reason is because the people who hate him are the same people who hate me in real life. Feminists, gays, liberals, anarchists, anti-American trash who tar their own country with the brush of guilt and shame for everything and anything under the sun while glorifying the allegedly more humane and socialistic systems found in Europe and Canada while simultaneously and hypocritically inciting foreigners to violate the country’s borders and immigration laws to move to that same country they disparage so readily on twitter and Facebook. In short, he hates who I hate, riles up who I rile up, and unapologetically flips his fat middle finger at half the country and the entire planet. He says what he means and means what he says. He’s the real deal and that’s why even his own officials are trying to tear him down. It’s part of their anti-gun, anti-male, anti-white, anti-constitution philosophy all laced together by ferocious anti-Americanism. For that, I wish death and illness on them and all their fucking families, kids and like minded neighbors.

With all that being said, when he fucks up, I’ll call him out on it.

And this is one of the many reasons why he is an absolute disaster as the President of the United States and of course a total joke as a "world leader"

Even though you seem clueless that these are horrible traits for the POTUS at least you're honest enough to admit it that what you like.

Title: Re: Who wrote the anonymous NYT Op Ed
Post by: Kwon3 on September 13, 2018, 02:26:56 PM
And this is one of the many reasons why he is an absolute disaster as the President of the United States and of course a total joke as a "world leader"

Even though you seem clueless that these are horrible traits for the POTUS at least you're honest enough to admit it that what you like.



For eight years 35% of the country, many of whom consider themselves ancestors of the people who created the United States 241 years ago, had to suffer in silence while a one term political upstart who gave beautiful speeches intended to appeal to anyone but them got elected and trampled over virtually everything we care about or value about this country. The weakest economic recovery since the Great Depression and jobs disappearing for anyone who didn’t have a college degree or connections. His first election’s highest moment was him praising Europeans in front of 200,000 people in Berlin, Germany, while a badly wounded war hero gave a similar speech about Americans to 50,000 bikers in Sturgis and suffered some of the most vicious negative ads in American election history.

Then he waltzes out of office and forgets we exist until the midterms and has now resumed giving beautiful speeches on behalf of democrats running across the country.

For a lot of us, Donald Trump was and is a breath of fresh air. We’d been longing for someone who had the balls to say the things he said and call out Muslims and leftist PC terrorists by name. To mock ugly, obnoxious feminists on social media and question the establishment Republicans whenever they tried to sell out to the other side just to get votes. The economy’s moving again. “Simple” people have jobs. We’re proud to be American once more while the governor of New York holds speeches saying America was never that great. Entitled “minorities” are melting. Women are furious. This is what a lot of us were dreaming about and why people who question Trump’s manners as unpresidential and condemn his words completely miss the point.
Title: Re: Who wrote the anonymous NYT Op Ed
Post by: Kwon3 on September 13, 2018, 02:28:36 PM
Unquestioning loyalty is an abdication of self respect and self honesty

Superbly said. Worship and fanatical support are not the same. I don’t worship anyone and never will again after “god” turned out to be another liberal scam to waste my time and money with catchalls for everything while explaining nothing.
Title: Re: Who wrote the anonymous NYT Op Ed
Post by: Straw Man on September 13, 2018, 03:23:04 PM
For eight years 35% of the country, many of whom consider themselves ancestors of the people who created the United States 241 years ago, had to suffer in silence while a one term political upstart who gave beautiful speeches intended to appeal to anyone but them got elected and trampled over virtually everything we care about or value about this country. The weakest economic recovery since the Great Depression and jobs disappearing for anyone who didn’t have a college degree or connections. His first election’s highest moment was him praising Europeans in front of 200,000 people in Berlin, Germany, while a badly wounded war hero gave a similar speech about Americans to 50,000 bikers in Sturgis and suffered some of the most vicious negative ads in American election history.

Then he waltzes out of office and forgets we exist until the midterms and has now resumed giving beautiful speeches on behalf of democrats running across the country.

For a lot of us, Donald Trump was and is a breath of fresh air. We’d been longing for someone who had the balls to say the things he said and call out Muslims and leftist PC terrorists by name. To mock ugly, obnoxious feminists on social media and question the establishment Republicans whenever they tried to sell out to the other side just to get votes. The economy’s moving again. “Simple” people have jobs. We’re proud to be American once more while the governor of New York holds speeches saying America was never that great. Entitled “minorities” are melting. Women are furious. This is what a lot of us were dreaming about and why people who question Trump’s manners as unpresidential and condemn his words completely miss the point.


yes, I understand he's tapped into all the things that people like you hate which explains your cult member like devotion to him

These are all more reasons why Trump is totally unfit to be POTUS and why other world leaders consider to him to be a joke
Title: Re: Who wrote the anonymous NYT Op Ed
Post by: Kwon3 on September 13, 2018, 03:39:58 PM

yes, I understand he's tapped into all the things that people like you hate which explains your cult member like devotion to him

These are all more reasons why Trump is totally unfit to be POTUS and why other world leaders consider to him to be a joke

Right. Except that for every 2 people who hate him in the UK, Sweden, Denmark, or Italy, there's one that wishes someone like him would run for office and turn their countries around, shut their borders, fix their economies, and sweep out the excrement in human form that currently hold their political systems in a strangehold, e.g. Merkel, a quasi-dictator whose 13 years in office just got extended for another term, or the pathetic game of musical chairs with conservative-labor in England, with both parties virtually indistinguishable from each other. That the current leaders of Europe (not "the world") consider him a joke only substantiates that he's exactly what the United States needed, rather than another President who praises foreign countries and acts giddy when he gets invited to sleep over at their state palaces in the capitals.

So here's a question you've never been able to answer during your entire career on getbig: Who or what do you believe in, besides not believing in whoever happens to be in office?

Take your time to answer, it's not a timed exam or an essay question.
Title: Re: Who wrote the anonymous NYT Op Ed
Post by: Straw Man on September 13, 2018, 04:33:00 PM
Right. Except that for every 2 people who hate him in the UK, Sweden, Denmark, or Italy, there's one that wishes someone like him would run for office and turn their countries around, shut their borders, fix their economies, and sweep out the excrement in human form that currently hold their political systems in a strangehold, e.g. Merkel, a quasi-dictator whose 13 years in office just got extended for another term, or the pathetic game of musical chairs with conservative-labor in England, with both parties virtually indistinguishable from each other. That the current leaders of Europe (not "the world") consider him a joke only substantiates that he's exactly what the United States needed, rather than another President who praises foreign countries and acts giddy when he gets invited to sleep over at their state palaces in the capitals.

So here's a question you've never been able to answer during your entire career on getbig: Who or what do you believe in, besides not believing in whoever happens to be in office?

Take your time to answer, it's not a timed exam or an essay question.

It's hilarious that you think Trump "fixed" our economy given that we in the 8th or 9th year of a economic recovery and our borders are exactly the same as when he took office.

I was approved of many things that the Dems/Obama did so not your comment about "not believing whoever happens to be in office" makes no sense

Of course I don't believe virtually everything Trumptard says but that's because almost every time he opens his mouth he's either lying (the "not believing" part) or just sounding like a fucking moron.   

Title: Re: Who wrote the anonymous NYT Op Ed
Post by: Kwon3 on September 13, 2018, 04:37:05 PM
I was approved of many things that the Dems/Obama did so not your comment about "not believing whoever happens to be in office" makes no sense.

So name a few, and explain your reasoning for each one.
Title: Re: Who wrote the anonymous NYT Op Ed
Post by: Straw Man on September 13, 2018, 04:43:34 PM
So name a few, and explain your reasoning for each one.

I've got 34k in posts
you're welcome to peruse them all at your convenience

Title: Re: Who wrote the anonymous NYT Op Ed
Post by: Kwon3 on September 13, 2018, 06:17:18 PM
uh huh

I didn't think so.
Title: Re: Who wrote the anonymous NYT Op Ed
Post by: SOMEPARTS on September 21, 2018, 02:03:06 PM
Eventually they will close in on the writer....or maybe they just did.


https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/407807-rosenstein-discussed-secretly-recorded-conversations-with-trump
Title: Re: Who wrote the anonymous NYT Op Ed
Post by: Straw Man on September 21, 2018, 02:23:41 PM
Eventually they will close in on the writer....or maybe they just did.


https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/407807-rosenstein-discussed-secretly-recorded-conversations-with-trump

faker than Obama's birth certificate

I can't believe you're falling for this nonsense

Once again you are a Fake News Victim, do you ever learn ??

Completely fabricated bullshit with no authenticity. What a waste of time and energy even discussing it. ::)

also, if that's not enough you can also see the Rosenstein has denied it and when someone denies it then you know the story is fake

Because it’s been denied by the ones named i it  :o
Title: Re: Who wrote the anonymous NYT Op Ed
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 21, 2018, 04:25:50 PM
faker than Obama's birth certificate

I can't believe you're falling for this nonsense

also, if that's not enough you can also see the Rosenstein has denied it and when someone denies it then you know the story is fake


So you are a birther now as well?
Title: Re: Who wrote the anonymous NYT Op Ed
Post by: Primemuscle on September 21, 2018, 04:39:35 PM
For eight years 35% of the country, many of whom consider themselves ancestors of the people who created the United States 241 years ago, had to suffer in silence while a one term political upstart who gave beautiful speeches intended to appeal to anyone but them got elected and trampled over virtually everything we care about or value about this country. The weakest economic recovery since the Great Depression and jobs disappearing for anyone who didn’t have a college degree or connections. His first election’s highest moment was him praising Europeans in front of 200,000 people in Berlin, Germany, while a badly wounded war hero gave a similar speech about Americans to 50,000 bikers in Sturgis and suffered some of the most vicious negative ads in American election history.

Then he waltzes out of office and forgets we exist until the midterms and has now resumed giving beautiful speeches on behalf of democrats running across the country.

For a lot of us, Donald Trump was and is a breath of fresh air. We’d been longing for someone who had the balls to say the things he said and call out Muslims and leftist PC terrorists by name. To mock ugly, obnoxious feminists on social media and question the establishment Republicans whenever they tried to sell out to the other side just to get votes. The economy’s moving again. “Simple” people have jobs. We’re proud to be American once more while the governor of New York holds speeches saying America was never that great. Entitled “minorities” are melting. Women are furious. This is what a lot of us were dreaming about and why people who question Trump’s manners as unpresidential and condemn his words completely miss the point.

I am a direct descendant of my forefathers who fought in The Revolutionary War. One of them lost his life, leaving behind a wife and several children. At no time did I suffer during Obama's Presidency nor am I suffering now. No doubt other of my ancestors who were slave owners and who proudly passed on their prejudices to their 20th century descendants would have agreed with you. If it were possible, my maternal grandfather would have come out of his grave to assassinate President Obama. His overt hatred of blacks was that profound. The real issue many folks have with President Obama is the he is black. They are so blinded by this fact, that nothing he did or could have done would have been notable.
Title: Re: Who wrote the anonymous NYT Op Ed
Post by: chaos on September 21, 2018, 06:05:58 PM
The real issue many folks have with President Obama is the he is black. They are so blinded by this fact, that nothing he did or could have done would have been notable.
I think this is bullshit. It's an excuse used by the left to explain peoples dislike of Obama and the policies and agendas he pushed. Instead of admitting that people just didn't like his policies, blame it on race.
Title: Re: Who wrote the anonymous NYT Op Ed
Post by: mazrim on September 21, 2018, 06:24:04 PM
I think this is bullshit. It's an excuse used by the left to explain peoples dislike of Obama and the policies and agendas he pushed. Instead of admitting that people just didn't like his policies, blame it on race.
Yep, nobody cares about skin color anymore except for a few wackos. Actually, I guess a lot do in reality. It is the liberal/democratic party that has an unhealthy obsession over skin colors and always bring it up when it has nothing to do with what is going on, etc.

Very ignorant comment he made.
Title: Re: Who wrote the anonymous NYT Op Ed
Post by: Kwon3 on September 21, 2018, 08:27:20 PM
So you are a birther now as well?
Yep. If it was up to him, anyone could just hop on a plane or cross the border with a backpack and receive full citizenship.
Title: Re: Who wrote the anonymous NYT Op Ed
Post by: Kwon3 on September 21, 2018, 08:44:26 PM
I am a direct descendant of my forefathers who fought in The Revolutionary War. One of them lost his life, leaving behind a wife and several children. At no time did I suffer during Obama's Presidency nor am I suffering now. No doubt other of my ancestors who were slave owners and who proudly passed on their prejudices to their 20th century descendants would have agreed with you. If it were possible, my maternal grandfather would have come out of his grave to assassinate President Obama. His overt hatred of blacks was that profound. The real issue many folks have with President Obama is the he is black. They are so blinded by this fact, that nothing he did or could have done would have been notable.

That's a fascinating story.

But you're just 1 liberal idiot while I was referring to a vast number of people in my post. Your vote for Clinton clearly didn't make a difference if Trump got elected. That is because not everything is about you, you stupid fucking insignificant flypaper turd. I already linked you to an explanation of how you engage in the N=1 fallacy of personal experience in virtually every stupid anecdote you post on this site.

The majority of people rejected Obama's policies, but didn't all vote to that effect. Trump changed that by motivating non-voters to come to the polls and make their voice heard. And despite an endless trumpeting of pro-Democrat messages blaring out of every mainstream outlet, not to mention every minority group brainwashed into their voting basket, the Democrats still lost 2 years ago. You really need to get over it, because there's a lot more of that coming your way.
Title: Re: Who wrote the anonymous NYT Op Ed
Post by: chaos on September 22, 2018, 08:08:31 AM
Yep. If it was up to him, anyone could just hop on a plane or cross the border with a backpack and receive full citizenship.
Pretty much how CA works
Title: Re: Who wrote the anonymous NYT Op Ed
Post by: SOMEPARTS on September 22, 2018, 01:05:54 PM
I am a direct descendant of my forefathers who fought in The Revolutionary War. One of them lost his life, leaving behind a wife and several children. At no time did I suffer during Obama's Presidency nor am I suffering now. No doubt other of my ancestors who were slave owners and who proudly passed on their prejudices to their 20th century descendants would have agreed with you. If it were possible, my maternal grandfather would have come out of his grave to assassinate President Obama. His overt hatred of blacks was that profound. The real issue many folks have with President Obama is the he is black. They are so blinded by this fact, that nothing he did or could have done would have been notable.


Sons and fathers...

I don't take kindly to disrespect...

 - and now this gem.
Title: Re: Who wrote the anonymous NYT Op Ed
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 24, 2018, 12:39:14 PM
It’s not our party that shooting themselves. Thinking about that

Your party is the one that is constantly being indicted.

Think about that.
Title: Re: Who wrote the anonymous NYT Op Ed
Post by: chaos on September 24, 2018, 05:28:19 PM
Your party is the one that is constantly being indicted.

Think about that.
Shows which side the corruption runs deep on.
Title: Re: Who wrote the anonymous NYT Op Ed
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 24, 2018, 09:31:03 PM
Your party is the one that is constantly being indicted.

Think about that.

Let me know which one was for "Russian collusion". What's even better is that Trump is draining the swamp of more rats than what Mueller is indicting and I GUARANTY it'll be 100x worse than imagined.
Title: Re: Who wrote the anonymous NYT Op Ed
Post by: Primemuscle on September 26, 2018, 02:25:54 AM
Let me know which one was for "Russian collusion". What's even better is that Trump is draining the swamp of more rats than what Mueller is indicting and I GUARANTY it'll be 100x worse than imagined.

Name the rats and provide us with their numbers.
Title: Re: Who wrote the anonymous NYT Op Ed
Post by: Kwon3 on September 26, 2018, 03:35:17 AM
Name the rats and provide us with their numbers.
Alright, I'll get the ball rolling.

Title: Re: Who wrote the anonymous NYT Op Ed
Post by: chaos on September 26, 2018, 03:46:52 PM
Alright, I'll get the ball rolling.


*crickets*
Title: Re: Who wrote the anonymous NYT Op Ed
Post by: Kwon3 on September 26, 2018, 03:50:07 PM
*crickets*
He claims there's many like him at work in the state department. Project Veritas is releasing new material regularly as this was part of a months-long undercover investigation. Wonder how many other rat'sll be flushed out by the time we take the white house again 2 years from now.  ;)