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Does it exist? Today when I worked biceps, I really focused on moving the weight with my bicep, instead of my hand and forearms. I "pretended" that my hand and forearms were only a leverage holding the weight and my bicep was doing the actual moving. Of course, I had to go lighter, but the burn felt more intense compared to just "throwing" a weight around and not truly focusing. Naturally, it doesn't matter if youre juicing, as you can just throw around the weight and get huge. But, is the mind-muscle connection more important for naturals? ??? ??? ???
Pic for reference. In before, "you look like shit, hope this helps," "do you even work out," and "lose weight." :D :D :D
(http://i63.tinypic.com/105xg87.png)
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Yes, it exists. You can't just go through the motions and expect results.
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Yes, it exists. You can't just go through the motions and expect results.
Well, as a natural, you definitely can't.
I definitely feel a better pump or burn or however you want to phrase it when I focus on the mind-muscle connection.
I am just trying to figure out of its Broscience!! ??? ???
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Does it exist? Today when I worked biceps, I really focused on moving the weight with my bicep, instead of my hand and forearms. I "pretended" that my hand and forearms were only a leverage holding the weight and my bicep was doing the actual moving. Of course, I had to go lighter, but the burn felt more intense compared to just "throwing" a weight around and not truly focusing. Naturally, it doesn't matter if youre juicing, as you can just throw around the weight and get huge. But, is the mind-muscle connection more important for naturals? ??? ??? ???
Pic for reference. In before, "you look like shit, hope this helps," "do you even work out," and "lose weight." :D :D :D
(http://i63.tinypic.com/105xg87.png)
Consistency is the key to success , everything else is BS
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Consistency is the key to success , everything else is BS
Good point. Hard to gain, easy to lose! :-\ :-\
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No, it's BS.
More Weider nonsense.
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No, it's BS.
More Weider nonsense.
Coach is Back thinks differently!
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Coach is Back thinks differently!
I may be wrong.
It would nice if there were scientific studies to determine some of this stuff but I'm not aware of any.
So much of what we believe in bodybuilding is without scientific foundation.
Personally, I wish Santa Claus was real. That would be so cool.
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I may be wrong.
It would nice if there were scientific studies to determine some of this stuff but I'm not aware of any.
So much of what we believe in bodybuilding is without scientific foundation.
Personally, I wish Santa Claus was real. That would be so cool.
Importance of mind-muscle connection during progressive resistance training
European Journal of Applied Physiology
March 2016, Volume 116, Issue 3, pp 527–533 | Cite as
Conclusion
Resistance-trained individuals can increase triceps brachii or pectarilis major muscle activity during the bench press when focusing on using the specific muscle at intensities up to 60 % of 1RM. A threshold between 60 and 80 % appeared to exist.
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European Journal of Applied Physiology
July 2017, Volume 117, Issue 7, pp 1445–1452 | Cite as
Mind-muscle connection training principle: influence of muscle strength and training experience during a pushing movement
Conclusion
Pectoralis activity can be increased when focusing on using this muscle during push-ups, whereas the ability to do this for the triceps is dependent on years of training experience. Maximal muscle strength does not appear to be a decisive factor for the ability to selectively activate these muscles
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Importance of mind-muscle connection during progressive resistance training
European Journal of Applied Physiology
March 2016, Volume 116, Issue 3, pp 527–533 | Cite as
Conclusion
Resistance-trained individuals can increase triceps brachii or pectarilis major muscle activity during the bench press when focusing on using the specific muscle at intensities up to 60 % of 1RM. A threshold between 60 and 80 % appeared to exist.
________________________ ________________________ ________________
European Journal of Applied Physiology
July 2017, Volume 117, Issue 7, pp 1445–1452 | Cite as
Mind-muscle connection training principle: influence of muscle strength and training experience during a pushing movement
Conclusion
Pectoralis activity can be increased when focusing on using this muscle during push-ups, whereas the ability to do this for the triceps is dependent on years of training experience. Maximal muscle strength does not appear to be a decisive factor for the ability to selectively activate these muscles
Interesting.
It stands to reason if you think about what you are doing when you do pushups you'll do better than if you are checking out the woman in the thong while you do pushups or are just lackadaisical in doing them.
Concentration usually helps in performance in certain things.
So I can accept that.
The study indicated this only works up to 60% of max though? I wonder why that is?
Maybe once you get over 60% you have to really concentrate anyway or your muscles are maximally contracted under higher loads.
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I may be wrong.
It would nice if there were scientific studies to determine some of this stuff but I'm not aware of any.
So much of what we believe in bodybuilding is without scientific foundation.
Personally, I wish Santa Claus was real. That would be so cool.
:o :o :o
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AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
What’s This Santa’s not Real.
:'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Damn It He’s Real To Me.
😂😂😂😂😂
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Best book about mind muscle connection was Psychoblast by Denie from the 1980's. Really weird book but good and hard to find a copy available anywhere.
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Get really baked before lifting and your focus and pump will be very intense.
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Yes it's the difference between a powerlifter and a bodybuilder
PL: lift item from A to B don't matter what muscles/momentum/swing/whatever
BB: Contract specific muscle/muscle group
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Lighter resistance allows for more focus on form and momentum. Max or near max resistance focuses on just moving the weight however one can.
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the longer u lift and the lighter the load... the better your mind muscle connection will b. isolating individual muscles by feel during a movement becomes easy over time, second nature – will that enhance development? not past genetic limitations.
some have super minimal response to training, no matter how mentally in tune they become with their body.
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Get really baked before lifting and your focus and pump will be very intense.
This really works.
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/qNPMZCa6fCw/hqdefault.jpg)
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Yes, it exists. You can't just go through the motions and expect results.
THIS
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Get really baked before lifting and your focus and pump will be very intense.
This. You have to wonder about idiots like sf1900... has he ever been high in his life? What HAS this imbecile done? SF, take a 10mg edible, go to the gym, and then delete this thread. You'll have your answer.
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This. You have to wonder about idiots like sf1900... has he ever been high in his life? What HAS this imbecile done? SF, take a 10mg edible, go to the gym, and then delete this thread. You'll have your answer.
I have not done any illegal substances. Not once in my life.
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I have not done any illegal substances. Not once in my life.
Not even a beer or a glass of wine before you were of legal age to drink?
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Not even a beer or a glass of wine before you were of legal age to drink?
Beer and wine are both legal. ??? ???
Whether I drank beer at 15 or 35, it would still not make it an illegal substance.
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No, it's BS.
More Weider nonsense.
People who teach things other than bodybuilding...I am thinking of pianists and violinists do definitely believe in this...I would think especially violinists because the instrument is fret-less.
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:o :o :o
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
What’s This Santa’s not Real.
:'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Damn It He’s Real To Me.
😂😂😂😂😂
Oops, sorry.
The Easter Bunny and Tooth Fairy are real though.
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Beer and wine are both legal. ??? ???
Whether I drank beer at 15 or 35, it would still not make it an illegal substance.
Does this mean you drank alcohol as a minor?
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Does this mean you drank alcohol as a minor?
What does that have to do with me never using illegal substances? ??? ???
Even if I drank alcohol as a minor, it still would not be considered an illegal substance.
My statement has zero to do with never using an illegal substance.
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What does that have to do with me never using illegal substances? ??? ???
Even if I drank alcohol as a minor, it still would not be considered an illegal substance.
My statement has zero to do with never using an illegal substance.
Probably nothing. I'm frankly rather surprised you're taking this so seriously. It's just an idle forum discussion, IMO. :)
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Probably nothing. I'm frankly rather surprised you're taking this so seriously. It's just an idle forum discussion, IMO. :)
Yup, I have drinking before 21, but not much.
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Yup, I have drinking before 21, but not much.
This makes you a better man than I am. ;)
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I drank a heckuva lot before I was 21.
But then the drinking age was 18.
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I was working back today and went lighter. Really focused on the squeeze at the top, lowering it with extreme control, then lifting the weight in a slower motions. Definitely felt the difference. I mean, I always used good form, but not to this extreme end.
Maybe its all useless. Who knows. But, lets be honest, lifting weights can get boring, so even if its only acting as a placebo, it's something different. :) :)
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I was working back today and went lighter. Really focused on the squeeze at the top, lowering it with extreme control, then lifting the weight in a slower motions. Definitely felt the difference. I mean, I always used good form, but not to this extreme end.
Maybe its all useless. Who knows. But, lets be honest, lifting weights can get boring, so even if its only acting as a placebo, it's something different. :) :)
It makes sense if you interpret this as focusing on making a maximum muscle contraction, which would result in recruiting more muscle fibers, hence better development/strength etc.
The whole thing about this being effective at sub-maximal % also makes sense. If you are using sub-maximal weight then there is "room" to increase the intensity of the contraction above what is already being used to lift the sub-maximal weight.
However, when you are working at near maximal load you are already probably recruiting the max muscle fibers so further recruitment cannot happen. You are already there.
Arnold said "visualize your biceps as mountains". That interpretation is probably nonsense for getting a better peak on your biceps which is dependent on your muscle attachment.
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I drank a heckuva lot before I was 21.
But then the drinking age was 18.
Back in the day, I was able to get served when I was fifteen. Never needed fake ID. -Drink of choice was Vodka on the rocks or neat when kept in the freezer.
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Want to get a major quad burn? Try the Octane LateralX Elliptical. I used this machine today for cardio and it's a killer. Try the variable (wide to narrow) squat position for a total quad workout. https://www.octanefitness.com/commercial/products/lateral-ellipticals/lx8000/
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I'm not sure what people mean by "Mind-Muscle Connection", but I have a small anecdote. I'd like to know if any of you have experienced this.
Some years ago I was on a bus, thinking about doing legs on the afternoon. In my mind, I was laying out my routine, exercise by exercise, set by set. Without even noticing, I was so inmersed on my thoughts that I was even thinking about how my muscles would feel while doing leg presses. Then all of a sudden I feel the same rush you get while you're lifting weights. It was amazing, without moving a single muscle, I had the same endorphin rush you start to get after 20 min of doing weights.
It's only happened to me once.
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(http://i63.tinypic.com/105xg87.png)
U need access to "biceps suppinator machinery'' & hypertrophy coach like Basil ;D
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I think it’s legit. Only down side is it’s difficult or impossible with heavy weight. Need to use lighter weights.
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What does that have to do with me never using illegal substances? ??? ???
Even if I drank alcohol as a minor, it still would not be considered an illegal substance.
My statement has zero to do with never using an illegal substance.
There are many substances that are legal for particular people to own or use, but illegal when in possession of someone else. Alcohol is a controlled substance. So are many narcotic type meds. They may be legal for some to possess, but illegal for others. Since it is illegal for a 15 year old to possess and consume beer, it would be an illegal substance in your hands.
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You answered your own question. It does not matter natural or enchanced. All benefit from more mind muscle conection.
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It makes sense if you interpret this as focusing on making a maximum muscle contraction, which would result in recruiting more muscle fibers, hence better development/strength etc.
The whole thing about this being effective at sub-maximal % also makes sense. If you are using sub-maximal weight then there is "room" to increase the intensity of the contraction above what is already being used to lift the sub-maximal weight.
However, when you are working at near maximal load you are already probably recruiting the max muscle fibers so further recruitment cannot happen. You are already there.
Arnold said "visualize your biceps as mountains". That interpretation is probably nonsense for getting a better peak on your biceps which is dependent on your muscle attachment.
Yeah, I guess I interpret it as making a maximum muscle contraction, which seems to be enhanced when I control the weight in a more concentrated way.
Its obvious when you move the weight in a slower, controlled manner, and with less swinging, youll have a greater maximum muscle contraction.
I guess its the whole notion of making a 5 pound weight feel like a 100 pound weight depending on how you move it.
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U need access to "biceps suppinator machinery'' & hypertrophy coach like Basil ;D
I am moving to Australia to live with Mr. Basile. He will take me under his wing and show me the ways.
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I am moving to Australia to live with Mr. Basile. He will take me under his wing and show me the ways.
The bicep supination machine alone will transform your physique.
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I am moving to Australia to live with Mr. Basile. He will take me under his wing and show me the ways.
Are you going to specify which ways he can show you? Maybe thataway.
(https://images.fineartamerica.com/images-medium-large-5/he-went-thataway-david-bearden.jpg)
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Are you going to specify which ways he can show you? Maybe thataway. (https://images.fineartamerica.com/images-medium-large-5/he-went-thataway-david-bearden.jpg)
Hey I know where that sign is, even took the same picture :D
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Hey I know where that sign is, even took the same picture :D
Cool. Should we ever meet up, we can meet at that sign in Pioneer Square . “Meet me under the clock” -All Portlanders knew that meant the clock in the middle of the main floor at Meier & Frank. The store and the clock are gone now, but the building is once again named Meier & Frank.
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Get really baked before lifting and your focus and pump will be very intense.
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It makes bodybuilding workouts SO good. Unbelievable mind muscle connection & amazing pumps. Lifting sober just doesn't compare
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It makes bodybuilding workouts SO good. Unbelievable mind muscle connection & amazing pumps. Lifting sober just doesn't compare
Stone(d) lifting.
(https://www.paulcheksblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Cory-Harding-Lifting-stone1-500x375.jpg)
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Yes, it exists. You can't just go through the motions and expect results.
whatever coach says - i will sign off on it