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It's too bad Obama cannot be like Carter (lousy president, great ex president). I wish he and his wife would just go away. They did enough damage to the country in eight years.
Trump: I'll Never Forgive Obama for What He Did to Our Military
By Theodore Bunker | Friday, 09 November 2018
President Donald Trump on Friday bashed his predecessor for “what he did to our United States military,” when asked about former first lady Michelle Obama’s new book.
In her memoir set to come out soon, Obama wrote that Trump’s support for the conspiracy theory that her husband, former President Barack Obama, was born outside the U.S. was “crazy and mean-spirited,” and rooted in bigotry.
She also accused him of promoting conspiracy theories to “stir up the wingnuts and kooks, asking, “What if someone with an unstable mind loaded a gun and drove to Washington? What if that person went looking for our girls? Donald Trump, with his loud and reckless innuendos, was putting my family’s safety at risk. And for this I’d never forgive him.”
When asked about this passage at a press conference Friday morning, Trump said that the former first lady "got paid a lot of money to write a book and they always expect a little controversy."
"I'll give you a little controversy back," he added. "I'll never forgive him [Obama] for what he did to our U.S.military. It was depleted, and I had to fix it. What he did to our military made this country very unsafe for you and you and you."
https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/trump-obama-michelle-barack/2018/11/09/id/890083/
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what are these great damages he did to the us military?
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what are these great damages he did to the us military?
Let trannys serve? ???
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what are these great damages he did to the us military?
I'm still waiting to hear this as well. Maybe he means killing Bin Laden and not sending more and more troops of ours to their eventual slaughter?
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Let trannys serve? ???
Changing the rules of engagement to make our guys sitting targets being shot and not allowed to shoot back.
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It's too bad Obama cannot be like Carter (lousy president, great ex president). I wish he and his wife would just go away. They did enough damage to the country in eight years.
Trump: I'll Never Forgive Obama for What He Did to Our Military
By Theodore Bunker | Friday, 09 November 2018
President Donald Trump on Friday bashed his predecessor for “what he did to our United States military,” when asked about former first lady Michelle Obama’s new book.
In her memoir set to come out soon, Obama wrote that Trump’s support for the conspiracy theory that her husband, former President Barack Obama, was born outside the U.S. was “crazy and mean-spirited,” and rooted in bigotry.
She also accused him of promoting conspiracy theories to “stir up the wingnuts and kooks, asking, “What if someone with an unstable mind loaded a gun and drove to Washington? What if that person went looking for our girls? Donald Trump, with his loud and reckless innuendos, was putting my family’s safety at risk. And for this I’d never forgive him.”
When asked about this passage at a press conference Friday morning, Trump said that the former first lady "got paid a lot of money to write a book and they always expect a little controversy."
"I'll give you a little controversy back," he added. "I'll never forgive him [Obama] for what he did to our U.S.military. It was depleted, and I had to fix it. What he did to our military made this country very unsafe for you and you and you."
https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/trump-obama-michelle-barack/2018/11/09/id/890083/
Too bad Trump wouldn't know how to give a straight answer even if it smacked him on his yellow head. Example: Trump on Friday: ‘I Don’t Know Matt Whitaker.’ Trump Last Month: ‘I Know Matt Whitaker.’ Which is it?
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I'm still waiting to hear this as well. Maybe he means killing Bin Laden and not sending more and more troops of ours to their eventual slaughter?
Don't you love it when people who have zero interest in the military (Cheney, Romney, Trump: Mr. Bone spurs did not serve, nor did his children, he mocked McCain's service and by extension all service men and women) pretend to care or be invested in them. ::)
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Don't you love it when people who have zero interest in the military (Cheney, Romney, Trump: Mr. Bone spurs did not serve, nor did his children, he mocked McCain's service and by extension all service men and women) pretend to care or be invested in them. ::)
Why didn't you put your hero obama or the rapist clinton on this list?
Hypocrite
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You don't have to have been in our Military to truly support them. And it's just as true that to have been in our Military does not mean you respect the service. McCain was a cucktard and John Kerry still is.
I have several family members that served in combat in several campaigns and none of them think (or thought) much of either of those two assholes. Some people here and in the real world think our Military should serve as some sort of social experiment/same sex dating and sex-change service. Fuck that noise.
Our Military is there to protect the United States of America and her citizens (not SHITIZENS!) and do so by killing people and breaking their shit.
If there is a Hell, McCain deserves to be in it. John Kerry too. And a great many more. Of that I have little doubt.
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lest we forget
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You don't have to have been in our Military to truly support them. And it's just as true that to have been in our Military does not mean you respect the service. McCain was a cucktard and John Kerry still is.
I have several family members that served in combat in several campaigns and none of them think (or thought) much of either of those two assholes. Some people here and in the real world think our Military should serve as some sort of social experiment/same sex dating and sex-change service. Fuck that noise.
Our Military is there to protect the United States of America and her citizens (not SHITIZENS!) and do so by killing people and breaking their shit.
If there is a Hell, McCain deserves to be in it. John Kerry too. And a great many more. Of that I have little doubt.
This right here. 20 year retired vet here. Some of you guys hero, Obama, turned the entire Military into some big social experiment. All the old heads like me were counting the days to our DD-214's. Our mission was to kill people and blow things up. Now our guys worry more about looking at females the wrong way and being accused of sexual assault. Or new training on how to treat a transgender in your work section. Or changing standards we've had for years to make room for women who literally can't do the physical aspects of a job. It used to be a brotherhood of comraderie, brothers and sisters you would do anything for. Now its splintered into social factions based on what side of the fence you support. All this lies at the feet of Obama. I served under Clinton, Bush, Obama and Trump. Everyone despised Obama after his 8 years for what he did to our branches of the military. He turned it into one big Facebook comments section. Trump was a breath of fresh air, a dude with balls who didn't care if he hurt feelings. But the stench of Obama is still there and it is embedded in our younger guys who were raised with this emotions over orders attitude. I'm not bragging about my service and do not want thanks. I'm just trying to shed light on the real inside and what's going on in today's military.
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Shitbama should not be forgiven for many things he did
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This right here. 20 year retired vet here. Some of you guys hero, Obama, turned the entire Military into some big social experiment. All the old heads like me were counting the days to our DD-214's. Our mission was to kill people and blow things up. Now our guys worry more about looking at females the wrong way and being accused of sexual assault. Or new training on how to treat a transgender in your work section. Or changing standards we've had for years to make room for women who literally can't do the physical aspects of a job. It used to be a brotherhood of comraderie, brothers and sisters you would do anything for. Now its splintered into social factions based on what side of the fence you support. All this lies at the feet of Obama. I served under Clinton, Bush, Obama and Trump. Everyone despised Obama after his 8 years for what he did to our branches of the military. He turned it into one big Facebook comments section. Trump was a breath of fresh air, a dude with balls who didn't care if he hurt feelings. But the stench of Obama is still there and it is embedded in our younger guys who were raised with this emotions over orders attitude. I'm not bragging about my service and do not want thanks. I'm just trying to shed light on the real inside and what's going on in today's military.
Well said, my friend. My Marine friends said they used to be able to use the term "WM" for Women Marines. Not anymore or so I am told. We must be PC. A friend of mine was a Marine at the White House for awhile in his career. He said Mrs. Bush (senior) was great but Hillary was a dyke bitch.
I and my family (except the cucktard side which ignore me unless they WANT something) are of the thought that a great many of the older folks (age 60s to 70s or so) that come up to Vets and say, "Thank you for your service" are just ex-hippies that feeeeeel stupid for how they behaved toward returning Vietnam Vets and calling them baby-killers and the like. Fuck those assholes back then for what they did to our men and women.
Yeah, you can forgive 'em but NEVER forget what they did and said to you. To err is human, to forgive is divine but to remember what was done and learn from it is to be smart.
Hindsight is 20/20 but only if you don't have your head up your ass like old libtards still do. MAGA, my brothers!
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This right here. 20 year retired vet here. Some of you guys hero, Obama, turned the entire Military into some big social experiment. All the old heads like me were counting the days to our DD-214's. Our mission was to kill people and blow things up. Now our guys worry more about looking at females the wrong way and being accused of sexual assault. Or new training on how to treat a transgender in your work section. Or changing standards we've had for years to make room for women who literally can't do the physical aspects of a job. It used to be a brotherhood of comraderie, brothers and sisters you would do anything for. Now its splintered into social factions based on what side of the fence you support. All this lies at the feet of Obama. I served under Clinton, Bush, Obama and Trump. Everyone despised Obama after his 8 years for what he did to our branches of the military. He turned it into one big Facebook comments section. Trump was a breath of fresh air, a dude with balls who didn't care if he hurt feelings. But the stench of Obama is still there and it is embedded in our younger guys who were raised with this emotions over orders attitude. I'm not bragging about my service and do not want thanks. I'm just trying to shed light on the real inside and what's going on in today's military.
Started back in the 90's with forcing women onto Navy ships and subs and into combat arms units in the Army. The Marines held out as long as they could but I think women are being worked into those units as well. It's always under libtard administrations that these social experiments are tested in the military with gays and trannys the most recent changes.
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Why didn't you put your hero obama or the rapist clinton on this list?
Hypocrite
Yep.
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Corrupted pieces of shit duped a nation of cucktards for 8 years..
Thank god trump is slowly reversing the damage the gay Muslim inflicted.
(https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2018/11/12/19/6097302-6381495-image-m-4_1542051238031.jpg)
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This right here. 20 year retired vet here. Some of you guys hero, Obama, turned the entire Military into some big social experiment. All the old heads like me were counting the days to our DD-214's. Our mission was to kill people and blow things up. Now our guys worry more about looking at females the wrong way and being accused of sexual assault. Or new training on how to treat a transgender in your work section. Or changing standards we've had for years to make room for women who literally can't do the physical aspects of a job. It used to be a brotherhood of comraderie, brothers and sisters you would do anything for. Now its splintered into social factions based on what side of the fence you support. All this lies at the feet of Obama. I served under Clinton, Bush, Obama and Trump. Everyone despised Obama after his 8 years for what he did to our branches of the military. He turned it into one big Facebook comments section. Trump was a breath of fresh air, a dude with balls who didn't care if he hurt feelings. But the stench of Obama is still there and it is embedded in our younger guys who were raised with this emotions over orders attitude. I'm not bragging about my service and do not want thanks. I'm just trying to shed light on the real inside and what's going on in today's military.
Not all...
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Not all...
Only the smart ones ;)
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This right here. 20 year retired vet here. Some of you guys hero, Obama, turned the entire Military into some big social experiment. All the old heads like me were counting the days to our DD-214's. Our mission was to kill people and blow things up. Now our guys worry more about looking at females the wrong way and being accused of sexual assault. Or new training on how to treat a transgender in your work section. Or changing standards we've had for years to make room for women who literally can't do the physical aspects of a job. It used to be a brotherhood of comraderie, brothers and sisters you would do anything for. Now its splintered into social factions based on what side of the fence you support. All this lies at the feet of Obama. I served under Clinton, Bush, Obama and Trump. Everyone despised Obama after his 8 years for what he did to our branches of the military. He turned it into one big Facebook comments section. Trump was a breath of fresh air, a dude with balls who didn't care if he hurt feelings. But the stench of Obama is still there and it is embedded in our younger guys who were raised with this emotions over orders attitude. I'm not bragging about my service and do not want thanks. I'm just trying to shed light on the real inside and what's going on in today's military.
I've heard this story so many times from my vet friends. Same exact story. :D
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This from a guy who disparages a 37 year Special Forces Vet for not killing Osama sooner. What a moron.
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This from a guy who disparages a 37 year Special Forces Vet for not killing Osama sooner. What a moron.
Stupid thing for him to say, but what is funny is how liberals-statists-progressives never mention what he is responding to. The man is a counter-puncher. He almost never initiates this stuff. It's childish that he has fight every single battle, but he is almost always responding to some insult.
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Stupid thing for him to say, but what is funny is how liberals-statists-progressives never mention what he is responding to. The man is a counter-puncher. He almost never initiates this stuff. It's childish that he has fight every single battle, but he is almost always responding to some insult.
He had previously criticized Trump’s attacks on the media, calling it "the greatest threat to democracy" he’s ever witnessed. Labeling News organizations that he doesn't like as "The enemy of the state" is a dangerous thing.
His response to McCraven was stupid. Poorly thought out and insulted a great many military people he claims to support and respect. Why not simply say "This is a free country, thanks to many like McCraven, he has the right to his opinion. I disagree with it" and move on. The reason is, because he is truly incapable of thinking rationally when his button is pushed, which seems like a frequent thing.
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The chicken hawks on this board are pathetic
Here are some comments from true American Hero's our on the certified sociopath in the White House:
McChrystal, who commanded forces in Afghanistan, said he knew McRaven and pushed back on Trump's attacks against him. He also said Trump's actions were revealing, including Trump's decision not to visit Arlington National Cemetery on the most recent Veterans' Day.
"I think there's a certain honesty to what's happening now," McChrystal said. "The President didn't go to Arlington Cemetery for Veterans' Day, and maybe that's honest, because if you really don't care, it would be dishonest to pretend that you do."
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He had previously criticized Trump’s attacks on the media, calling it "the greatest threat to democracy" he’s ever witnessed. Labeling News organizations that he doesn't like as "The enemy of the state" is a dangerous thing.
His response to McCraven was stupid. Poorly thought out and insulted a great many military people he claims to support and respect. Why not simply say "This is a free country, thanks to many like McCraven, he has the right to his opinion. I disagree with it" and move on. The reason is, because he is truly incapable of thinking rationally when his button is pushed, which seems like a frequent thing.
I said it was a stupid thing to say.
I'm talking about the other half of the equation in this and other situations. This guy is a Clinton supporter. He was apparently on the VP short list. That's the context for his comments. McCraven's comments were equally stupid, but Trump shouldn't have to respond to every slight. But he does and that's who he is. I've accepted this flawed part of his personality and focused on what he is actually doing as POTUS, which is by and large outstanding.
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I said it was a stupid thing to say.
I'm talking about the other half of the equation in this and other situations. This guy is a Clinton supporter. He was apparently on the VP short list. That's the context for his comments. McCraven's comments were equally stupid, but Trump shouldn't have to respond to every slight. But he does and that's who he is. I've accepted this flawed part of his personality and focused on what he is actually doing as POTUS, which is by and large outstanding.
So far we have tax cuts for millionaires & billionaires. If that is large and outstanding, then you are 100% correct.
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So far we have tax cuts for millionaires & billionaires. If that is large and outstanding, then you are 100% correct.
Absolutely false. I've talked to numerous middle class wage earners who got a tax cut.
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Absolutely false. I've talked to numerous middle class wage earners who got a tax cut.
If I received one, I most certainly haven't noticed.
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If I received one, I most certainly haven't noticed.
Like I said, I've personally talked to numerous people who got one. All of the tax rates went down, so not sure why you didn't get one.
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Absolutely false. I've talked to numerous middle class wage earners who got a tax cut.
yep, they got maybe 1 or 2%
Meanwhile we get a trillion dollar budget deficit next year
Next Repoblican step will be cutting social security and medicare to "pay" for the tax cuts that were supposed to pay of themselves
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I said it was a stupid thing to say.
I'm talking about the other half of the equation in this and other situations. This guy is a Clinton supporter. He was apparently on the VP short list. That's the context for his comments. McCraven's comments were equally stupid, but Trump shouldn't have to respond to every slight. But he does and that's who he is. I've accepted this flawed part of his personality and focused on what he is actually doing as POTUS, which is by and large outstanding.
He says he's not but who cares if that true or false
I assume if he is a Clinton supporter that means he must be lying about his feelings.
I guess we have to assume since you're a Trump supporter that you were lying about your true feelings about Obama fro the last 8 years. Or, at the very least your feeling/comments, etc. along with every other Trump supporter can simply be ignored since you're obviously biased.
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I said it was a stupid thing to say.
I'm talking about the other half of the equation in this and other situations. This guy is a Clinton supporter. He was apparently on the VP short list. That's the context for his comments. McCraven's comments were equally stupid, but Trump shouldn't have to respond to every slight. But he does and that's who he is. I've accepted this flawed part of his personality and focused on what he is actually doing as POTUS, which is by and large outstanding.
He says
"I did not back Hillary Clinton or anyone else," McRaven said in a statement to CNN on Sunday in response to Trump's comments. "I am a fan of President Obama and President George W. Bush, both of whom I worked for."
McRaven said he admires all presidents, "regardless of their political party, who uphold the dignity of the office and who use that office to bring the Nation together in challenging times."
"I stand by my comment that the President's attack on the media is the greatest threat to our democracy in my lifetime. When you undermine the people's right to a free press and freedom of speech and expression, then you threaten the Constitution and all for which it
But hey screw him.. he is a hillary fan! GTFOH
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He says
"I did not back Hillary Clinton or anyone else," McRaven said in a statement to CNN on Sunday in response to Trump's comments. "I am a fan of President Obama and President George W. Bush, both of whom I worked for."
McRaven said he admires all presidents, "regardless of their political party, who uphold the dignity of the office and who use that office to bring the Nation together in challenging times."
"I stand by my comment that the President's attack on the media is the greatest threat to our democracy in my lifetime. When you undermine the people's right to a free press and freedom of speech and expression, then you threaten the Constitution and all for which it
But hey screw him.. he is a hillary fan! GTFOH
What kind of simplistic analysis is this? ::)
He didn't make the Hillary Clinton VP short list by being nonpartisan. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/hacked-emails-reveal-39-names-clinton-s-first-cut-vp-n668181
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What kind of simplistic analysis is this? ::)
He didn't make the Hillary Clinton VP short list by being nonpartisan. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/hacked-emails-reveal-39-names-clinton-s-first-cut-vp-n668181
I agree with you. I am willing to disregard this mans 37 years as a Special Forces operative simply because he MAY make the short list for Hillary Clintons VP. Fuck him. We must have priorities and my priority is to attack anyone, regardless of their commitment and sacrifice for this country if they dare to be considered as a possible maybe in an unlikely event. Kudos to you Dos Equis!!
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What kind of simplistic analysis is this? ::)
He didn't make the Hillary Clinton VP short list by being nonpartisan. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/hacked-emails-reveal-39-names-clinton-s-first-cut-vp-n668181
WTF difference does that make if she put his name on a list with 38 other people
Chris Christie was on Trumps list and you can find all kinds of statement from him criticizing Trumps words and deeds
Jesus Christ you're a blatant partisan hack of the worst kind
Think about how many people in both parties criticized Obama or worse just attacked him for no reason
Faux News wasted air time to attack his choice of condiments, the color of his suit and the type of paper clips he used.
You know, the good old days when our POTUS wasn't a raving sociopath and it was hard to find legitimate things to gripe about.
I can't recall Obama whining that they were a McCain or Romney supporters as if that was some kind of a "end of debate" statement
Trump is a thin skinned little crybaby snowflake
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WTF difference does that make if she put his name on a list with 38 other people
Chris Christie was on Trumps list and you can find all kinds of statement from him criticizing Trumps words and deeds
Jesus Christ you're a blatant partisan hack of the worst kind
Think about how many people in both parties criticized Obama or worse just attacked him for no reason
Faux News wasted air time to attack his choice of condiments, the color of his suit and the type of paper clips he used.
You know, the good old days when our POTUS wasn't a raving sociopath and it was hard to find legitimate things to gripe about.
I can't recall Obama whining that they were a McCain or Romney supporters as if that was some kind of a "end of debate" statement
Trump is a thin skinned little crybaby snowflake
Pretty much. But hey, stocks are up so if he were to beat a puppy to death on a live feed, me and Dos Equis would somehow spin it to a good thing
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I agree with you. I am willing to disregard this mans 37 years as a Special Forces operative simply because he MAY make the short list for Hillary Clintons VP. Fuck him. We must have priorities and my priority is to attack anyone, regardless of their commitment and sacrifice for this country if they dare to be considered as a possible maybe in an unlikely event. Kudos to you Dos Equis!!
Thank you for that sophomoric analysis. That's about all you are good for these days.
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Thank you for that sophomoric analysis. That's about all you are good for these days.
That's about all your posts deserve these days..
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That's about all your posts deserve these days..
Whatever you say troll.
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Whatever you say troll.
::)
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When is Mr Trump going to visit the troops at the front line ?
Right after the democrats support Americans.
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Right after the democrats support Americans.
Why should Trumps actions be dependent on the actions of democrats?
One is solely responsible for one's actions.
#individualresponsibility
#dontblameothers
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Why should Trumps actions be dependent on the actions of democrats?
One is solely responsible for one's actions.
#individualresponsibility
#dontblameothers
Government is supposed to work for the people, not against each other. Democrats have shown time and again, they are only interested in resisting President Trump, because he is Trump. No other reason. Shouldn't you be on the g&o scouting for men in thongs?
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When is Mr Trump going to visit the troops at the front line ?
For those who have not served, when the President visits, military members aren't all excited to see him. It doesn't matter who the President is at the time either. Life on the base being visited sucks the week or two prior due to secret service setting up. Base access is usually shut down if it's CONUS, local traffic is diverted if he's traveling by land, daily work practices are interrupted. It's basically a big pain in the ass and a dog and pony show. The troops don't really care if he comes or don't want him to come because daily ops are greatly interrupted.
Funny story, to me anyway. Bush visited my base a week or so after 9/11. Air Force One was taxiing down the runway on his way out. Me and my buddies snuck out of the side of a hanger to watch the take off. We were only like 50-75 yards from his jet as he was rolling. We all saluted and headed back inside. I look back now and wonder if eyes were on us, as in crosshairs because we were so close and unattended. Probably not but it's a cool memory
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Government is supposed to work for the people, not against each other. Democrats have shown time and again, they are only interested in resisting President Trump, because he is Trump. No other reason. Shouldn't you be on the g&o scouting for men in thongs?
What does that have anything to do with Trump visiting troop on the front lines?
Even if what you said is 100% true, it should have no influence on whether or not Trump visits troops.
Either he visits the troops or he doesn't. I don't know if he does. My point is, he can still visit troops independent of what others are doing.
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The man is a counter-puncher. He almost never initiates this stuff.
::) Yeah. He never initiates the whining he is always doing.
His counter punches seems to be nothing but whining, lies, more whining, more lies, epic idiotic excuses and then denial of all things previously mentioned here.
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Government is supposed to work for the people, not against each other. Republicants have shown time and again, they are only interested in resisting President Obama, because he is Obama. No other reason. Shouldn't you be on the g&o scouting for men in thongs?
Fixed.
Hypocrites are always blind. You are nearing the level of Mitch McCuck. I hope you are actually putting effort into it and it just isn't coming naturally for you.
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What does that have anything to do with Trump visiting troop on the front lines?
Even if what you said is 100% true, it should have no influence on whether or not Trump visits troops.
Either he visits the troops or he doesn't. I don't know if he does. My point is, he can still visit troops independent of what others are doing.
Trying to explain things like this to you is a waste of time since you have no understanding of teamwork or pride in your country.
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Trying to explain things like this to you is a waste of time since you have no understanding of teamwork or pride in your country.
I just know that him supporting the troops has zero to do with whether democrats support him.
You’re just making excuses for him.
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I just know that him supporting the troops has zero to do with whether democrats support him.
You’re just making excuses for him.
Cool story bro.
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Cool story bro.
Cool excuse bro.
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Cool excuse bro.
Cool sandy pussy bro.
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Cool sandy pussy bro.
Cool projections bro.
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I ask the question because he seems keen to be strongly associated with the Military
One hopes that its more than just pomp and pageantry he is interested in
From the military personnel I talk to, he's pretty well liked by them, but as has been stated, when a high profile person visits, its a royal pain in the ass. Buddy of mine said when he was in Afghanistan they had to prepare for weeks for someone to come through for a 10 minute photo-op "visit". He said they didn't like it at all.
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I can attest to the pain in the ass of an official visit. Presidential visit in a war zone wouldn't be something that people would be preparing for a week for, as it would likely be unannounced until hours before landing. I really don't care either way if he goes to visit them. I would much prefer making sure they are taken care of while there, and when they return.
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I can attest to the pain in the ass of an official visit. Presidential visit in a war zone wouldn't be something that people would be preparing for a week for, as it would likely be unannounced until hours before landing. I really don't care either way if he goes to visit them. I would much prefer making sure they are taken care of while there, and when they return.
He was never visited by Obama, he just said "high profile person". I imagine a presidential visit would be kept quiet until the last minute.
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I wonder why all these politicians who love the military, never encourage their own children to sign up.
I mean, if the military is filled with heros, why don't politicians want their children to also be heros in the military? ??? ??? ???
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I wonder why all these politicians who love the military, never encourage their own children to sign up.
I mean, if the military is filled with heros, why don't politicians want their children to also be heros in the military? ??? ??? ???
It makes it so much easier to declare war
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Cool sandy pussy bro.
You need to dig a little deeper. This seems to be all you've got.
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You need to dig a little deeper. This seems to be all you've got.
how can I dig deeper, all you do is regurgitate cnn propaganda. You have no opinion of your own.
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how can I dig deeper, all you do is regurgitate cnn propaganda. You have no opinion of your own.
Says the megaphone for Trump's whining sound bites.
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Says the megaphone for Trump's whining sound bites.
And you...you should be ashamed of yourself.
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Chaos - My fourth favorite hole!
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Chaos - My fourth favorite hole!
I still got it. 8)
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http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2018/11/why-hasnt-trump-visited-troops-in-a-war-zone-hes-afraid.html (http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2018/11/why-hasnt-trump-visited-troops-in-a-war-zone-hes-afraid.html)
Another anonymous source used as gospel ::) The troops rather he not visit as I said earlier. When a one star or above visits any base it's usually a huge hassle. If CINC visits, multiply that by 1000. It's just a huge dog and pony show where guys end up cleaning anywhere that he may or may not be, highest security levels, longer shifts for weeks at a time in preparation and on and on, for a glorified photo op. The guys are happy when he doesn't visit, only the cucks and betas on the sidelines bitch about this shit. Carry on!
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Another anonymous source used as gospel ::) The troops rather he not visit as I said earlier. When a one star or above visits any base it's usually a huge hassle. If CINC visits, multiply that by 1000. It's just a huge dog and pony show where guys end up cleaning anywhere that he may or may not be, highest security levels, longer shifts for weeks at a time in preparation and on and on, for a glorified photo op. The guys are happy when he doesn't visit, only the cucks and betas on the sidelines bitch about this shit. Carry on!
I agree with what you said 100%
But what you are saying doesn't pertain to a surprise visit from a President, I can see where you would think they are the same. But the reality is, they are not
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I agree with what you said 100%
But what you are saying doesn't pertain to a surprise visit from a President, I can see where you would think they are the same. But the reality is, they are not
Ive never been at a base with a surprise visit so I can't speak to that. BUT, trust me when I say you can always tell something is going on or a visitor is coming by activities on a base. 0-6's come out of offices to direct and orchestrate small details like dust on a counter. So even if it's not announced, you know something is happening.
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I agree with what you said 100%
But what you are saying doesn't pertain to a surprise visit from a President, I can see where you would think they are the same. But the reality is, they are not
No such thing as a surprise visit by the POTUS. I know you don't understand that. But for the benefit of anyone else reading, the amount of planning and logistics with a presidential visit to a war zone cannot be kept secret from those on the ground.
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Ive never been at a base with a surprise visit so I can't speak to that. BUT, trust me when I say you can always tell something is going on or a visitor is coming by activities on a base. 0-6's come out of offices to direct and orchestrate small details like dust on a counter. So even if it's not announced, you know something is happening.
Exactly.
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No such thing as a surprise visit by the POTUS. I know you don't understand that. But for the benefit of anyone else reading, the amount of planning and logistics with a presidential visit to a war zone cannot be kept secret from those on the ground.
I guess you and I can pit our POTUS visiting experiences side by side and see where that falls... but yes, for all intents and purposes, a surprise visit by a POTUS in a war zone is a surprise. Not to say SS doesn't know about it, or some high level officials, but it isn't like an IG inspection where you have weeks to prepare.
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Ive never been at a base with a surprise visit so I can't speak to that. BUT, trust me when I say you can always tell something is going on or a visitor is coming by activities on a base. 0-6's come out of offices to direct and orchestrate small details like dust on a counter. So even if it's not announced, you know something is happening.
Ok, I've been at a base where there was a surprise visit, and being in the Law Enforcement field, would have been one's that had been impacted. Until just less than 90 minutes from the bird landing it was kept hush hush. I'm not saying generals didn't know, I'm just saying based on my real time experience, it wasn't such a huge hassle. It was in and out. Now, Dos Equis, will follow up with some "I read somewhere" story because he can't be wrong, but that has been my experience in the Military. Now in civilian life, we've had Presidents visit Austin and as a part of the team that had to coordinate that, it was a real pain in the ass a week in advance.
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I guess you and I can pit our POTUS visiting experiences side by side and see where that falls... but yes, for all intents and purposes, a surprise visit by a POTUS in a war zone is a surprise. Not to say SS doesn't know about it, or some high level officials, but it isn't like an IG inspection where you have weeks to prepare.
Not everything has to be a debate. Just saying what I've noticed in my time in is all. My main point is it's a hassle and 99% of guys could give a shit if any POTUS visits.
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Not everything has to be a debate. Just saying what I've noticed in my time in is all. My main point is it's a hassle and 99% of guys could give a shit if any POTUS visits.
I agree with you. Its that other dude that insists on debating.
I ALWAYS preferred no visit from anyone that would make my life more miserable. That's why my original comment was it didn't bother me that he didn't visit. I don't care his reason for not doing it, just fund the VA and we're good
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I agree with you. Its that other dude that insists on debating.
I ALWAYS preferred no visit from anyone that would make my life more miserable. That's why my original comment was it didn't bother me that he didn't visit. I don't care his reason for not doing it, just fund the VA and we're good
Agreed, I don't think anyone can fix the VA though. Institutionalized Gov employees from the bottom up who know they will never be fired, so why change or put in effort?
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I guess you and I can pit our POTUS visiting experiences side by side and see where that falls... but yes, for all intents and purposes, a surprise visit by a POTUS in a war zone is a surprise. Not to say SS doesn't know about it, or some high level officials, but it isn't like an IG inspection where you have weeks to prepare.
No I'm not going to do your typical juvenile experience comparison, but it is obvious you don't know what the heck you're talking about.
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No I'm not going to do your typical juvenile experience comparison, but it is obvious you don't know what the heck you're talking about.
The irony in your post is ridiculous.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/may/25/president-barack-obama-visit-troops-afghanistan
This was Obama's fourth visit to Afghanistan as president, but his first since winning re-election in 2012.
He was expected to be briefed by US commanders in Afghanistan, speak to troops at Bagram and visit injured troops being treated at a base hospital.
As is typical of recent presidential trips to war zones, the White House did not announce Obama's visit in advance. Media travelling with Obama for the 13-hour flight had to agree to keep the trip secret until the president arrived at the air base.
And this..
WASHINGTON, Nov. 27 _ In a stunning mission conducted under enormous secrecy, President Bush flew into Baghdad today aboard Air Force One to have dinner with United States officials and a group of astonished American troops.
But you go ahead and pretend you know what you're talking about, I'm sure someone might buy it. ;)
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Agreed, I don't think anyone can fix the VA though. Institutionalized Gov employees from the bottom up who know they will never be fired, so why change or put in effort?
I was hoping that would change but it doesn't seem to be any different.
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The irony in your post is ridiculous.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/may/25/president-barack-obama-visit-troops-afghanistan
This was Obama's fourth visit to Afghanistan as president, but his first since winning re-election in 2012.
He was expected to be briefed by US commanders in Afghanistan, speak to troops at Bagram and visit injured troops being treated at a base hospital.
As is typical of recent presidential trips to war zones, the White House did not announce Obama's visit in advance. Media travelling with Obama for the 13-hour flight had to agree to keep the trip secret until the president arrived at the air base.
And this..
WASHINGTON, Nov. 27 _ In a stunning mission conducted under enormous secrecy, President Bush flew into Baghdad today aboard Air Force One to have dinner with United States officials and a group of astonished American troops.
But you go ahead and pretend you know what you're talking about, I'm sure someone might buy it. ;)
I see. So the fact a presidential visit was not announced to the media means all of the boots on the ground didn't know either. What are you ten years old??
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I see. So the fact a presidential visit was not announced to the media means all of the boots on the ground didn't know either. What are you ten years old??
Glossed over the "astonished troops" part because it didn't fit your narrative. I've provided you with support for my position. All you've done is play the 10 year olds game of "Is not!" without ever providing any support other than your opinion. Not the first time, I'm sure it won't be the last
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Tell you what, it's almost Christmas so here goes,,,
Yeah, you proved your point, I was mistaken. Well done ;)
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Glossed over the "astonished troops" part because it didn't fit your narrative. I've provided you with support for my position. All you've done is play the 10 year olds game of "Is not!" without ever providing any support other than your opinion. Not the first time, I'm sure it won't be the last
You really aren't the sharpest pencil in the box. It says "a group." Not all of them. For the benefit of anyone else reading this: no there is absolutely no way a POTUS makes a visit to a war zone, or basically any other military base, and servicemembers are unaware of it is taking place. The amount of logistics involved with that kind of visit is staggering. The fact a handful of servicemembers may not know the POTUS is visiting their actual unit isn't surprising at all. But to take a comment from news article and use it to reach the conclusion that the visit is surprise to everyone is infantile reasoning. Something the person who made that post is pretty good at.
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You really aren't the sharpest pencil in the box. It says "a group." Not all of them. For the benefit of anyone else reading this: no there is absolutely no way a POTUS makes a visit to a war zone, or basically any other military base, and servicemembers are unaware of it is taking place. The amount of logistics involved with that kind of visit is staggering. The fact a handful of servicemembers may not know the POTUS is visiting their actual unit isn't surprising at all. But to take a comment from news article and use it to reach the conclusion that the visit is surprise to everyone is infantile reasoning. Something the person who made that post is pretty good at.
I tried to let you off the hook. The position originally wasn't "Not a single person on the ground knows the president is coming" like you are trying to now make it. The original statement was that a visit by the President causes a week or 2 of pain in the ass for the troops on the ground and I have clearly shown that is not the case in warzones during a Presidential visit. Very few are aware of it happening and planning is done behind the scenes. Damn, do you ever get to the point where you realize you just might be wrong? I'm starting to wonder
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all of which gives Mr Trump an ideal excuse not to visit dangerous front line areas while still basking in military glory?
How is supporting military "basking in military glory"?
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all of which gives Mr Trump an ideal excuse not to visit dangerous front line areas while still basking in military glory?
I think he should visit them.
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I tried to let you off the hook. The position originally wasn't "Not a single person on the ground knows the president is coming" like you are trying to now make it. The original statement was that a visit by the President causes a week or 2 of pain in the ass for the troops on the ground and I have clearly shown that is not the case in warzones during a Presidential visit. Very few are aware of it happening and planning is done behind the scenes. Damn, do you ever get to the point where you realize you just might be wrong? I'm starting to wonder
Stop embarrassing yourself. You claimed there could be surprise presidential visit:
I agree with what you said 100%
But what you are saying doesn't pertain to a surprise visit from a President, I can see where you would think they are the same. But the reality is, they are not
When I pointed out how stupid this is, you pointed to some troops who were surprised by a presidential visit. lol
Just quit already. You clearly don't know what the heck you're talking about.
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Stop embarrassing yourself. You claimed there could be surprise presidential visit:
When I pointed out how stupid this is, you pointed to some troops who were surprised by a presidential visit. lol
Just quit already. You clearly don't know what the heck you're talking about.
I really thought you were smart enough to let this die.... you are just making yourself look even more stupid and clueless about it.
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I really thought you were smart enough to let this die.... you are just making yourself look even more stupid and clueless about it.
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