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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Coach is Back! on November 20, 2018, 09:28:57 AM
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https://instagram.com/p/BqY9jUwAePw/
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Why do people get pec tears?
Is it because the steroids they take increase the strength of the muscle tissue faster than the connective tissue can keep up with?
Result the connective tissue breaks.
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Coach, youre falling apart. I am worried about you. PM me.
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Why do people get pec tears?
Is it because the steroids they take increase the strength of the muscle tissue faster than the connective tissue can keep up with?
Result the connective tissue breaks.
Various reasons but gear is with a doubt a huge contributor. This a retear from 18 years ago. This time I was doing close grip bench when I felt it at the bottom of the lift.
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Glad you are on the mend.
Be patient.
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Why do people get pec tears?
Is it because the steroids they take increase the strength of the muscle tissue faster than the connective tissue can keep up with?
Result the connective tissue breaks.
I got a minor pec tear in college and I'm a life long natty. It didn't need surgery. I didn't have insurance at that time anyway. :-\
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So...the "coach" cant even train himself without damaging the client.
....and has such a fantastic money-making training facility and equipment (sure) that hes in some other gym?
nothing adds up. another born liar in the game
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Why do people get pec tears?
Is it because the steroids they take increase the strength of the muscle tissue faster than the connective tissue can keep up with?
Result the connective tissue breaks.
BINGO!!!!!!!!!!!
Coach is too broke/cheap to buy HGH.
I'm lost with this post....I don't know if he's bragging or complaining or just being an attention whore.
For the life of me I don't know why these Social Media people write up these manifesto's about muscle groups, life, etc. etc. without having any degree/education in the field whatsoever. Its basically them tooting their own horn.
WHO WANTS TO WALK WITH FALLSVIEW?
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So...the "coach" cant even train himself without damaging the client.
....and has such a fantastic money-making training facility and equipment (sure) that hes in some other gym?
nothing adds up. another born liar in the game
Maybe because you can’t add...lol
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Coach,
I'm late to the game. You are Joe/the fellow with the pec tear?
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Various reasons but gear is with a doubt a huge contributor. This a retear from 18 years ago. This time I was doing close grip bench when I felt it at the bottom of the lift.
At the bottom of the lift the muscle is fully stretched and in a poor leverage position. You can make the case that in an exercise like that, full range of motion is not really a good idea.
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Why is juice a contributor to tears?
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Why is juice a contributor to tears?
Short answer is it can cause a loss of collagen in the tendon (dysplasia) taking away tinsel strength.
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You always used to say how you hated the Smith Machine. ??? ???
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Why do people get pec tears?
Is it because the steroids they take increase the strength of the muscle tissue faster than the connective tissue can keep up with?
Result the connective tissue breaks.
Age is a huge factor.
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You always used to say how you hated the Smith Machine. ??? ???
We’ve gone over this
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Age is a huge factor.
I would definitely agree.
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Take care of that tendon or it can become a full detached rupture. I heard of few guys that have had a partial rip of the distal bicep. They are back in the game quick after their operation. I had full blown rupture of my bicep. It rolled up to my shoulder like a Venetian blind. Even though it was bicep it effected the whole arm and shoulder. After the operation when I got the go ahead to start light lifting after rehab it was maybe 6 weeks if my memory serves me. I had to bench with an empty bar. Curl 2.5 rehab dumbbells. Forearm twists with a light hammer. It took me 6 months to get the upper back strength I once had. The first time I tried a single pull up was a frightening event. The reason why I'm telling this is that a partial tear if it isn't serious can repair itself. On the other hand a partial tear can lead to a full blown rupture.
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We’ve gone over this
I missed this......
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Short answer is it can cause a loss of collagen in the tendon (dysplasia) taking away tinsel strength.
LOL
yeah, and even more so with tensile strength ...."coach"
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LOL
yeah, and even more so with tensile strength ...."coach"
Hey Straw, remember the time I called your gay ass out to debate training and you got your ass handed to you to oblivion? Wanna go again? Seriously? I love this shit.
Say the word. We’ll start another thread, you and I for all to see and you can even name the first topic. You down?
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Did Strawman bail already?
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https://instagram.com/p/BqY9jUwAePw/
What's the point of ego lifting at year age like O'Hearn, who is probably next, when you aren't a REAL PROFESSIONAL ATHLETE? I won't comment on Coleman and Dim b/c those 2 poor souls are too far gone.
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Hey Straw, remember the time I called your gay ass out to debate training and you got your ass handed to you to oblivion? Wanna go again? Seriously? I love this shit.
Say the word. We’ll start another thread, you and I for all to see and you can even name the first topic. You down?
I'm sure you probably imagined that given you live in perpetual state of delusion
was that the one where you insisted that one rep box squats had some value for those unfortunate teenagers you were "training"
do those help build "tinsel" strength?
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I'm sure you probably imagined that given you live in perpetual state of delusion
was that the one where you insisted that one rep box squats had some value for those unfortunate teenagers you were "training"
do those help build "tinsel" strength?
Awesome, this was the topic you got your ass handed to the last time. Why do you keep kicking yourself? You really are THAT fucking stupid, aren’t ya?
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Do we have any members with four personal trainer certificates that took a week each to obtain that can shed some light on this topic? I'm sure they can throw in some kinesiology terms and some rarely used exercises to bamboozle the common gym rat poster here.
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https://instagram.com/p/BqY9jUwAePw/
Look good man. Probably not a fun thing to go through. I started lifting on the lighter side many years ago I need to stay jacked and shredded for as long as possible.
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Only one way to settle this.
Straw and Coach each take a piss on video so we can determine who the real man is.
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Only one way to settle this.
Straw and Coach each take a piss on video so we can determine who the real man is.
Dearth said Strawman sits when "he" pee's
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So...the "coach" cant even train himself without damaging the client.
....and has such a fantastic money-making training facility and equipment (sure) that hes in some other gym?
nothing adds up. another born liar in the game
Don't be a plank all your life, anyone can get injured, the top athletes, trainers, anyone.
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Various reasons but gear is with a doubt a huge contributor. This a retear from 18 years ago. This time I was doing close grip bench when I felt it at the bottom of the lift.
i remember that, we've been here a long time :D
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If you could clarify your comments on your instagram post.
How does high reps strengthen your tendons (presumably more so than low reps implying heavier weights)?
Also, why would a less stable environment when using free weights be safer than using machines which provides a much more stable environment? It would seem you would want to start back up with machines to get strength and muscle function back before moving on to free weights which require much more skill to perform?
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Good luck coach,still going to compete?if so get going on it,i know you lost some weight ,get lean
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LOL
yeah, and even more so with tensile strength ...."coach"
Had to LOL over this one myself. I love Coach, but my Xmas tree has wayyyy better tinsel strength than his. :P
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Had to LOL over this one myself. I love Coach, but my Xmas tree has wayyyy better tinsel strength than his. :P
I'm not going to make excuses for my phones auto-correct that's why I didn't change even after his insecure self pointed it out. I'll let him have his glory. it's all he has.
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If you could clarify your comments on your instagram post.
How does high reps strengthen your tendons (presumably more so than low reps implying heavier weights)?
Also, why would a less stable environment when using free weights be safer than using machines which provides a much more stable environment? It would seem you would want to start back up with machines to get strength and muscle function back before moving on to free weights which require much more skill to perform?
Higher reps with lighter (much lighter) will allow greater blood flow to the area. As far as not isolating, I don't want closed chain anything on a machine, Using free weight in the way of more dumbbell work allows me to recruit more of the surrounding muscle groups and stabilizers.
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Good luck coach,still going to compete?if so get going on it,i know you lost some weight ,get lean
Thanks, and yes, thats the plan. Started dieting last at the beginning of last April, dropped 28lbs to 206, I'm back up to 215 as of today. For the few months, I'll stay between 215-220 then start my prep.
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Coach, I am concerned about this mid-life crisis that you seem to be having.
It's okay to get old. It's going to happen to most of us. Just let it be.
Aging is tough, I can imagine. I feel it, too. We all do.
Don't fight father time.
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Coach, I am concerned about this mid-life crisis that you seem to be having.
It's okay to get old. It's going to happen to most of us. Just let it be.
Aging is tough, I can imagine. I feel it, too. We all do.
Don't fight father time.
I actually have a hashtag that I use on most of my social media that says #fuckfathertime. No lie
https://instagram.com/p/BqeBnlnA2a1/
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I actually have a hashtag that I use on most of my social media that says #fuckfathertime. No lie
https://instagram.com/p/BqeBnlnA2a1/
“He who runs against time has an adversary not subject to casualties.”
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BTW Coach, what gym is that?
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I actually have a hashtag that I use on most of my social media that says #fuckfathertime. No lie
https://instagram.com/p/BqeBnlnA2a1/
Wow Sevastase saw it fit to comment on your post and express his approval
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BTW Coach, what gym is that?
It’s a UFC gym
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It’s a UFC gym
It always amazes me that when people post vids of themselves in a gym the gym is practically empty. Where I train, it's always busy. Always. And I've gone at every conceivable hour included 1 pm in the morning. At that time I still can't get do a routine like how I plan because someone will always be in my way. I have a set plan on the order and type of exercises I want to do but I have never, never ever, been able to do it. It's the only gym in the area within ten miles and it's so poorly maintained. Three machines have broke: Hammer Pulldown, Cybex Flys/Rear Delt, and Side Lateral. They didn't repair it. They just got rid of it never to be replaced as it's been nine months to over a year since they broke.
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Only one way to settle this.
Straw and Coach each take a piss on video so we can determine who the real man is.
Flaccid penis length? Piss stream aiming? or hairiest and biggest balls? ???
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I'm not going to make excuses for my phones auto-correct that's why I didn't change even after his insecure self pointed it out. I'll let him have his glory. it's all he has.
I know, my new ones been pissing me off, I need to turn it off (auto correct).
Thats not all he has Coach, he has Kilary, and a DREAM!!
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Flaccid penis length? Piss stream aiming? or hairiest and biggest balls? ???
Nothing involving subjective judging.
Farthest pisser wins.
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Wow! Big-talking ego-guy and Trump-backer now out of his gym and his health!? If only there was some kinda common sense, common sense answer to these travails.
/the answer is: common sense ::)
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Wow! Big-talking ego-guy and Trump-backer now out of his gym and his health!? If only there was some kinda common sense, common sense answer to these travails.
/the answer is: common sense ::)
I just hope your better with your patients then you are with politics, if you’re not, they’re fucked
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I just hope your better with your patients then you are with politics, if you’re not, they’re fucked
He just flings poop at his patients. (Andhis Mom) shes right here and told me so...
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He just flings poop at his patients. (Andhis Mom) shes right here and told me so...
Thing is, I’m probably more on top of my heath than he is.
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Thing is, I’m probably more on top of my heath than he is.
Thats why trolls attack, jealousy...
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Thing is, I’m probably more on top of my heath than he is.
You, mean me? Un-ripped-off? Perfect health? Sure, I'll call you. ::)
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Thing is, I’m probably more on top of my heath than he is.
When you consider how bitter and angry Chimps has gotten over the years you can be sure things are not going well. This is not a happy man.
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Higher reps with lighter (much lighter) will allow greater blood flow to the area. As far as not isolating, I don't want closed chain anything on a machine, Using free weight in the way of more dumbbell work allows me to recruit more of the surrounding muscle groups and stabilizers.
Everyone is an expert on Getbig. Broscience is rampant here. Anecdotal experience is all one needs to be an expert. ::)
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Everyone is an expert on Getbig. Broscience is rampant here. Anecdotal experience is all one needs to be an expert. ::)
Yes, I didn't think blood flowed through tendon and ligaments as in the case with muscles. I remember going through a treatment for my knees called Prolotherapy where they injected a substance into the tendons to cause inflammation that stimulates your body's healing mechanism producing collagen and stimulating the growth of new tendon fibers.
I also am not clear on this notion of stabilizing muscles. All muscles in a sense act as stabilizers but is there a special class of stabilizing muscles?
No doubt you are using more muscles to control a dumbbell press than you would a barbell press and even less so using a machine where everything is "stabilized" for you. But is training in an unstable environment a good thing in regard to strengthening the target muscle?
It seems to me that one must develop a skill, in this case balancing and keeping stable, to perform with a dumbbell then on a Nautilus machine.
That's why a beginner doing dumbbell presses will start to increase resistance rapidly but not because he is getting stronger but because he is getting better at balancing those dumbbells.
If an unstable environment was conducive and more effective to increasing muscle size and strength then wouldn't it follow that the more unstable the environment the better? Of course, it is harder but is it better for muscle hypertrophy? Squatting on a Swiss ball is much harder than on a solid floor but because of it's unstable environment you simply can't tax your quads to the extent that you can on a solid floor due to the unstable environment. You are developing a skill, coordinating your muscles, balancing -- stabilizing as it were -- to squat on a Swiss ball which does not necessarily translate into putting the target muscle, presumably the quads, under maximum load.
Sure you use more of everything to balance those dumbells but whatever muscles you are using to develop that skill could it not be addressed more effectively by targeting those muscle specifically? And it would also seem that the more unstable the environment that more likely you are to hurt yourself as the margin of error is greater. The "bar" or plane of resistance will always be consistent with say a Hammer Press than with a Bench Press where you might deviate from the left or right or up or down as you begin to fatigue or simply get sloppy.
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Yes, I didn't think blood flowed through tendon and ligaments as in the case with muscles. I remember going through a treatment for my knees called Prolotherapy where they injected a substance into the tendons to cause inflammation that stimulates your body's healing mechanism producing collagen and stimulating the growth of new tendon fibers.
I also am not clear on this notion of stabilizing muscles. All muscles in a sense act as stabilizers but is there a special class of stabilizing muscles?
No doubt you are using more muscles to control a dumbbell press than you would a barbell press and even less so using a machine where everything is "stabilized" for you. But is training in an unstable environment a good thing in regard to strengthening the target muscle?
It seems to me that one must develop a skill, in this case balancing and keeping stable, to perform with a dumbbell then on a Nautilus machine.
That's why a beginner doing dumbbell presses will start to increase resistance rapidly but not because he is getting stronger but because he is getting better at balancing those dumbbells.
If an unstable environment was conducive and more effective to increasing muscle size and strength then wouldn't it follow that the more unstable the environment the better? Of course, it is harder but is it better for muscle hypertrophy? Squatting on a Swiss ball is much harder than on a solid floor but because of it's unstable environment you simply can't tax your quads to the extent that you can on a solid floor due to the unstable environment. You are developing a skill, coordinating your muscles, balancing -- stabilizing as it were -- to squat on a Swiss ball which does not necessarily translate into putting the target muscle, presumably the quads, under maximum load.
Sure you use more of everything to balance those dumbells but whatever muscles you are using to develop that skill could it not be addressed more effectively by targeting those muscle specifically? And it would also seem that the more unstable the environment that more likely you are to hurt yourself as the margin of error is greater. The "bar" or plane of resistance will always be consistent with say a Hammer Press than with a Bench Press where you might deviate from the left or right or up or down as you begin to fatigue or simply get sloppy.
WHAT A loud mouth.
/shut the fuck up, and let me treat you
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Everyone is an expert on Getbig. Broscience is rampant here. Anecdotal experience is all one needs to be an expert. ::)
Shut up Vince. Stick to what you know whatever that may be. This clearly isn’t it
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Everyone is an expert on Getbig. Broscience is rampant here. Anecdotal experience is all one needs to be an expert. ::)
haha, this is the funniest thing you have ever written.
Can you please provide me with peer-reviewed journals regarding your Bicep Supination Machine and hypertrophy theory?
Or, do you just rely on anecdotal evidence? :D :D :D
You are a major hypocrite.
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haha, this is the funniest thing you have ever written.
Can you please provide me with peer-reviewed journals regarding your Bicep Supination Machine and hypertrophy theory?
Or, do you just rely on anecdotal evidence? :D :D :D
You are a major hypocrite.
All of the bro science from the 1970s regarding training and diet turned out to be right. Now, you have all these ex personal trainers getting their PhD’s and writing papers confirming what has already been known for 50 years.
Here’s some more anecdotal. In my estimation, older bodybuilders would be better off eschewing heavy chest work and making the overhead press their primary strength movement. Way too many of these pec tears for it to be worthwhile. Better to keep the chest training light.
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All of the bro science from the 1970s regarding training and diet turned out to be right. Now, you have all these ex personal trainers getting their PhD’s and writing papers confirming what has already been known for 50 years.
Here’s some more anecdotal. In my estimation, older bodybuilders would be better off eschewing heavy chest work and making the overhead press their primary strength movement. Way too many of these pec tears for it to be worthwhile. Better to keep the chest training light.
That may be true, but that in no way provides evidence for Basile's supposedly original hypertrophy theory. I have no problem accepting any theory from the 70's or any other time, as long as there is evidence behind it. Basile's "original" ideas = no evidence. Just because an idea is from a certain time period in no way assumes that it's true.
Maybe getbig can start a gofundme and get Basile's Supination Machine shipped to Caltech so they can run some studies on its effectiveness.
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That may be true, but that in no way provides evidence for Basile's supposedly original hypertrophy theory. I have no problem accepting any theory from the 70's or any other time, as long as there is evidence behind it. Basile's "original" ideas = no evidence. Just because an idea is from a certain time period in no way assumes that it's true.
Maybe getbig can start a gofundme and get Basile's Supination Machine shipped to Caltech so they can run some studies on its effectiveness.
I’ve been coming to this site since about 2001 and I’ve yet to hear Basile’s theory. Apparently it exists but he’s never shared it.🤔
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I’ve been coming to this site since about 2001 and I’ve yet to hear Basile’s theory. Apparently it exists but he’s never shared it.🤔
He claims its his hypertrophy theory.
I am not into the scientific aspects of training, so I have no idea how original it is. He just claims to have a theory of hypertrophy. Funny thing, it really is just a hypothesis until it becomes a theory.
Vince Basile:
"To the students of hypertrophy out there. Here is a simple experiment you can do to test my theory. If you don't grow rapidly....and are eating sufficient food....then my theory is false and must be
discarded. Okay, here is what you do. Select whatever exercise you want for biceps. Train in any fashion you want using reasonably heavy resistance but you must generate severe soreness in your biceps that
lasts several days. Retrain on the 3rd day even if still sore. After a few sets things will be fine. Keep the muscle sore. That is the key to rapid hypertrophy. Once you get to your maximum resistance then stay
there for many sets. If you can't generate soreness then choose another exercise or do more maximum sets or both. If you cannot generate soreness you will NOT grow rapidly."
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WHAT A loud mouth.
/shut the fuck up, and let me treat you
LOL! You went through all the trouble of reading and striking out the context. God, I am so in your head.
You've become such a miserable little old man. Everything bothers you. You just reek of bitter unhappiness.
You're losing at life old man. Everyone sees it.
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All of the bro science from the 1970s regarding training and diet turned out to be right. Now, you have all these ex personal trainers getting their PhD’s and writing papers confirming what has already been known for 50 years.
Here’s some more anecdotal. In my estimation, older bodybuilders would be better off eschewing heavy chest work and making the overhead press their primary strength movement. Way too many of these pec tears for it to be worthwhile. Better to keep the chest training light.
I don't know about that, Muscle "confusion" was debunked about 20+ years ago..lol. As far as older bodybuilders and chest work, we're not necessarily talking about strength. As an older bodybuilder, even though I don't, I would stay away from most OH movements but only in certain cases. Not everyone is going to get a tear, it depends on past injury history.
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I think Vince's theory that you have to be sore all the time is extremely flawed. Soreness indicates that a muscle has not fully recovered and to continue to break it down when it is already in a broken down state just does not comport with common sense. You have to wait until your muscle has completely recovered from the stress you put on it and then allow additional time to overcompensate from that stress.
One person that I pay attention to is John Meadows. He's very intelligent with a very successful career outside of bbing. He has decades of real-world experience actually training and competing on a world class level (Vince hasn't trained seriously in decades). He also has had to overcome some very serious physical setbacks.
This is what John has to say about muscle soreness beginning at 4:22.
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I don't know about that, Muscle "confusion" was debunked about 20+ years ago..lol. As far as older bodybuilders and chest work, we're not necessarily talking about strength. As an older bodybuilder, even though I don't, I would stay away from most OH movements but only in certain cases. Not everyone is going to get a tear, it depends on past injury history.
I’m talking about the basic principles: sets and reps, recovery time.
You are a guy who has devoted his entire life to weightlifting and you tore a pec. It would stand to reason that people without your knowledge would also do so.
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I’m talking about the basic principles: sets and reps, recovery time.
You are a guy who has devoted his entire life to weightlifting and you tore a pec. It would stand to reason that people without your knowledge would also do so.
Can you try this and report back to us with your results.
"To the students of hypertrophy out there. Here is a simple experiment you can do to test my theory. If you don't grow rapidly....and are eating sufficient food....then my theory is false and must be
discarded. Okay, here is what you do. Select whatever exercise you want for biceps. Train in any fashion you want using reasonably heavy resistance but you must generate severe soreness in your biceps that
lasts several days. Retrain on the 3rd day even if still sore. After a few sets things will be fine. Keep the muscle sore. That is the key to rapid hypertrophy. Once you get to your maximum resistance then stay
there for many sets. If you can't generate soreness then choose another exercise or do more maximum sets or both. If you cannot generate soreness you will NOT grow rapidly."
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I will pay to have Vince’s machine shipped to Cal Tech.
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I will pay to have Vince’s machine shipped to Cal Tech.
Not a good idea. I stand corrected.
The Bicep Supination Machine cannot be shipped. It must be in someone's possession at all times.
Irongrip, I suggest you and I, go to Australia and get a hold of the bicep supination machine. We will bring it back by boat, plane, car, etc, etc. However, it must never leave our possession at any time. It's like the Mona Lisa.
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There will always be a lot of interest in improving ways to make muscles grow. Pellius adheres to the principles in the book The Stress of Life by Dr Hans Selye. Those principles have been around since about 1960. Pellius concludes than any departure from stimulus - rest - recovery is not optimal re hypertrophy. How would he know if he hasn’t tried the every 3rd day even though sore? Also, please explain why most swimmers and track athletes train almost daily and still improve?
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Anecdotal evidence that Vince's Bicep Supination Machine and Hypertrophy Theory are correct:
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=146902.0;attach=163489;image)
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Shut up Vince. Stick to what you know whatever that may be. This clearly isn’t it
Reminds me of a personal trainer who worked in my gym. One day she boasted that she knew more about training than I did. Imagine my surprise when she tore an ab muscle doing leg raises with straight legs. I warned her that keeping the legs bent was safer. What did I know? Coach is another know it all who is rather ignorant of lots of things from business to training. He literally can’t be helped because he doesn’t listen.
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There will always be a lot of interest in improving ways to make muscles grow. Pellius adheres to the principles in the book The Stress of Life by Dr Hans Selye. Those principles have been around since about 1960. Pellius concludes than any departure from stimulus - rest - recovery is not optimal re hypertrophy. How would he know if he hasn’t tried the every 3rd day even though sore? Also, please explain why most swimmers and track athletes train almost daily and still improve?
1960....think about that Vince 🙄
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There will always be a lot of interest in improving ways to make muscles grow. Pellius adheres to the principles in the book The Stress of Life by Dr Hans Selye. Those principles have been around since about 1960. Pellius concludes than any departure from stimulus - rest - recovery is not optimal re hypertrophy. How would he know if he hasn’t tried the every 3rd day even though sore? Also, please explain why most swimmers and track athletes train almost daily and still improve?
You’re saying you can train sore and still get a decent workout?
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You’re saying you can train sore and still get a decent workout?
You see, this goes against common sense which urges us to rest sore muscles. However how then does one deal with the repeated bout effect?
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haha, this is the funniest thing you have ever written.
Can you please provide me with peer-reviewed journals regarding your Bicep Supination Machine and hypertrophy theory?
Or, do you just rely on anecdotal evidence? :D :D :D
You are a major hypocrite.
Please post the full theory of hypertrophy that you subscribe to.
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There will always be a lot of interest in improving ways to make muscles grow. Pellius adheres to the principles in the book The Stress of Life by Dr Hans Selye. Those principles have been around since about 1960. Pellius concludes than any departure from stimulus - rest - recovery is not optimal re hypertrophy. How would he know if he hasn’t tried the every 3rd day even though sore? Also, please explain why most swimmers and track athletes train almost daily and still improve?
Wait a minute. How do you know the various protocols I've tried. I use to train with weights six days a week for years. I was virtually always sore. As an amateur athlete I trained six days a week, twice a day for five of those days for 15 years.
And swimmers and track athletes don't make any meaningful muscle gains. And they are certainly
not sore everyday.
Why would someone listen to you over John Meadows?
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Pellius, never mind what protocols you tried, what did you end up believing worked for you to grow?
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Can you try this and report back to us with your results.
"To the students of hypertrophy out there. Here is a simple experiment you can do to test my theory. If you don't grow rapidly....and are eating sufficient food....then my theory is false and must be
discarded. Okay, here is what you do. Select whatever exercise you want for biceps. Train in any fashion you want using reasonably heavy resistance but you must generate severe soreness in your biceps that
lasts several days. Retrain on the 3rd day even if still sore. After a few sets things will be fine. Keep the muscle sore. That is the key to rapid hypertrophy. Once you get to your maximum resistance then stay
there for many sets. If you can't generate soreness then choose another exercise or do more maximum sets or both. If you cannot generate soreness you will NOT grow rapidly."
I’m a mature adult. I’m not going to grow anymore regardless of what I do. If you look at the greatest bodybuilders of all time they all achieved maximum size at a very young age and the ones who continued to grow did so via large amounts of testosterone and its derivatives.
All of these trainers and strength coaches want to over complicate something that’s very simple. Just take weight do a few sets of 8 to 12 reps, rinse and repeat every 72 hours, When it starts to feel easy, increase the weight. You’ll get to your genetic potential pretty quickly. After that it’s all about just taking gear.
Vinces rap is actually very typical of trainers. They all want to act like they have reinvented the wheel and act like they know something that no one else knows.
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Wait a minute. How do you know the various protocols I've tried. I use to train with weights six days a week for years.
Why would someone listen to you over John Meadows?
I watched the John Meadows video. Nothing he said contradicts what I said. For a start I don’t recommend trying to get more than a couple of body parts sore at a time. Just train arms to get them sore. Retrain them in 3 days. Your body doesn’t synthesize much new protein after 48 hours. That is why you train every 3rd day. How sore should you aim for? The soreness should be clearly there but not crippling. By the way it is difficult to get the biceps sore and keep them sore. Triceps are not a problem.
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You see, this goes against common sense which urges us to rest sore muscles. However how then does one deal with the repeated bout effect?
Fucking retard
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I’m a mature adult. I’m not going to grow anymore regardless of what I do. If you look at the greatest bodybuilders of all time they all achieved maximum size at a very young age and the ones who continued to grow did so via large amounts of testosterone and its derivatives.
All of these trainers and strength coaches want to over complicate something that’s very simple. Just take weight do a few sets of 8 to 12 reps, rinse and repeat every 72 hours, When it starts to feel easy, increase the weight. You’ll get to your genetic potential pretty quickly. After that it’s all about just taking gear.
Vinces rap is actually very typical of trainers. They all want to act like they have reinvented the wheel and act like they know something that no one else knows.
You clearly reveal you know almost nothing about maximum hypertrophy. What you posted above is broscience.
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Fucking retard
You are incapable of debating serious matters in a proper educated person fashion.
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I watched the John Meadows video. Nothing he said contradicts what I said. For a start I don’t recommend trying to get more than a couple of body parts sore at a time. Just train arms to get them sore. Retrain them in 3 days. Your body doesn’t synthesize much new protein after 48 hours. That is why you train every 3rd day. How sore should you aim for? The soreness should be clearly there but not crippling. By the way it is difficult to get the biceps sore and keep them sore. Triceps are not a problem.
My legs stay sore for literally a week. I get terrible DOMS. I also get sore biceps from training back but not really when I isolate. It seems the secondary muscles are what get sore when I train upper body.
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Fucking retard
Goddammit Coach. I am starting to like the cut of your jib. No homo.
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My legs stay sore for literally a week. I get terrible DOMS. I also get sore biceps from training back but not really when I isolate. It seems the secondary muscles are what get sore when I train upper body.
If you get sore biceps when training back then omit the isolation biceps workout because it is not productive. Bodybuilders train too many body parts all the time. This is not the most productive way to train.
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You are incapable of debating serious matters in a proper educated person fashion.
I told you any fuckkg time you want to debate say the word. You keep disappearing
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I’m a mature adult. I’m not going to grow anymore regardless of what I do. If you look at the greatest bodybuilders of all time they all achieved maximum size at a very young age and the ones who continued to grow did so via large amounts of testosterone and its derivatives.
All of these trainers and strength coaches want to over complicate something that’s very simple. Just take weight do a few sets of 8 to 12 reps, rinse and repeat every 72 hours, When it starts to feel easy, increase the weight. You’ll get to your genetic potential pretty quickly. After that it’s all about just taking gear.
Vinces rap is actually very typical of trainers. They all want to act like they have reinvented the wheel and act like they know something that no one else knows.
Basil is still jealous of Arnold. ???
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Basil is still jealous of Arnold. ???
From what i hear it was just a photo op
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From what i hear it was just a photo op
Basil offered Arnold Mrs. B. Arnold declined. Which is saying something given the liberal tendencies of his Austrian cock. Basil has yet to recover.
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Please post the full theory of hypertrophy that you subscribe to.
I don’t subscribe to any hypertropy theory.
I don’t need to. Lifting weights is pretty simple.
I see results without your bullshit theories.
You’re a quack.
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From what i hear it was just a photo op
Even do, Basil’s has always been jealous of Arnold.
It’s what drives his crap theories about lifting.
He wants to try and be remembered in the bodybuilding field.
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I don’t subscribe to any hypertropy theory.
I don’t need to. Lifting weights is pretty simple.
I see results without your bullshit theories.
You’re a quack.
Disgraceful reply proving you know nothing special about hypertrophy.
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Pellius, never mind what protocols you tried, what did you end up believing worked for you to grow?
1. Training intensity. As long as you keep working within your functional ability, exercise will do little or nothing for increasing size and strength.
You have to try to subject your muscles to a stimulus it is unaccustomed
to stimulate an adaptive response.
Most people I see at the gym just keep doing the same things over and over. They terminate a set when they could have easily done another three or four reps, if not more. They are there daily like clockwork hitting the same machines at pretty much the exact same time doing the same amount of reps and weight going through the motions like a mindless robot glancing at their phones or the TV, and have been doing that for years. Yet, and I am not exaggerating, there is nothing about them that would even hint that they've ever lifted a weight in their life.
So much wasted effort.
2. Recovery. When you tax your body to extent that an intense resistance training does you first have to rest enough just to back to where you started before the training session. Then you must allow an additional recovery period to compensate/adapt to that training stimulus. Big muscles are low on the priority list and other systems taxed just from day to day living that everyone experiences will be addressed first. Even without resistance training, everyone needs adequate sleep just to maintain daily function.
How much recovery is needed is subject to debate and I'm sure various from individual to individual.
3. Nutrition. Adequate nutrients, most notably being in a caloric surplus, is absolutely necessary to increase overall muscle size to a significant degree. You can't build something out of nothing. What is the ideal macronutrient profile is again subject to debate but you can't build muscle out of carbohydrates or fats. Only protein. How much? I don't know what is ideal but you should err on the side of more than less. If you ingest too little protein you compromise optimal muscle growth. If you ingest too much it's still used as calories.
But, at the end of the day (my least favorite expression), it's your genetic predisposition that determines how far you can go. You can follow the most optimal training and lifestyle protocol most conducive to muscle hypertrophy and still never look like an advanced bber. Then you can have someone that throws weights around, or maybe just works in a physically demanding job or sport, and looks six weeks out stage ready.
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I watched the John Meadows video. Nothing he said contradicts what I said. For a start I don’t recommend trying to get more than a couple of body parts sore at a time. Just train arms to get them sore. Retrain them in 3 days. Your body doesn’t synthesize much new protein after 48 hours. That is why you train every 3rd day. How sore should you aim for? The soreness should be clearly there but not crippling. By the way it is difficult to get the biceps sore and keep them sore. Triceps are not a problem.
No, there is one important difference and the same one I have with you.
I do believe that a certain degree of DOMS is a good thing. But you should never train a muscle that is still in that state of soreness. A sore muscle is still in a state of recovery and to break it down even further is digging yourself into a deeper hole. You have to fill that hole first before you can make it into a hill. You propose to keep training that muscle while it is still in a state of DOMS.
And as John Meadows claims, and as you, yourself, just implied, soreness is not a necessary condition for muscle hypertrophy. I also could never get my biceps sore and when I thought that it was unusual I started asking other trainees if their biceps ever got sore. I've never met anyone who has gotten sore biceps from weight training. But I've met a lot of men with huge biceps.
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My legs stay sore for literally a week. I get terrible DOMS. I also get sore biceps from training back but not really when I isolate. It seems the secondary muscles are what get sore when I train upper body.
Which is why Arthur Jones promoted pre exhaust training. Your back muscles are so much bigger and stronger than your biceps so your biceps are the "weak link" in that movement chain and give out first. Doing an isolating movement first, like the Nautilus Pullover, so that your lats are fried then immediately moving on to a compound pulling movement will make deeper inroads into your back muscles.
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You clearly reveal you know almost nothing about maximum hypertrophy. What you posted above is broscience.
https://www.lookgreatnaked.com/blog/what-is-the-best-rep-range-for-muscle-strength-and-size/
Here’s a “Real scientist,” Brad Schoenfeld, PhD, CSCS, CSPS, FNSCA, who conducted a study:
“Dating back to my early years as a personal trainer in the mid-90’s, I began to become intrigued by the concept of “loading zones” whereby different rep ranges purportedly could bring about differential effects on muscular adaptations. Prevailing wisdom at the time was that heavy loads (1-5 RM) promote maximal strength gains, moderate loads (6-12 RM) elicit maximal increases in muscle mass, and light loads (15+ RM) produce the greatest improvements in local muscular endurance.”
And the conclusion?
Wait for it....You fucking tool
“The study provides evidence that training with heavy loads helps to maximize muscle strength and training with moderate loads promotes greater increases in muscle mass. Importantly, these findings are specific to routines where the number of sets are equated. At face value, this is consistent with the “strength-endurance continuum” and supports what gym bro’s have been preaching for years in regards to rep ranges”
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https://www.lookgreatnaked.com/blog/what-is-the-best-rep-range-for-muscle-strength-and-size/
Here’s a “Real scientist,” Brad Schoenfeld, PhD, CSCS, CSPS, FNSCA, who conducted a study:
“Dating back to my early years as a personal trainer in the mid-90’s, I began to become intrigued by the concept of “loading zones” whereby different rep ranges purportedly could bring about differential effects on muscular adaptations. Prevailing wisdom at the time was that heavy loads (1-5 RM) promote maximal strength gains, moderate loads (6-12 RM) elicit maximal increases in muscle mass, and light loads (15+ RM) produce the greatest improvements in local muscular endurance.”
And the conclusion?
Wait for it....You fucking tool
“The study provides evidence that training with heavy loads helps to maximize muscle strength and training with moderate loads promotes greater increases in muscle mass. Importantly, these findings are specific to routines where the number of sets are equated. At face value, this is consistent with the “strength-endurance continuum” and supports what gym bro’s have been preaching for years in regards to rep ranges”
I don't recognize Brad Schoenfeld, PhD as an expert in maximum muscular hypertrophy. Period. His methods won't lead to maximum hypertrophy.
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I don't recognize Brad Schoenfeld, PhD as an expert in maximum muscular hypertrophy. Period. His methods won't lead to maximum hypertrophy.
You don’t recognize anyone so it’s no wonder why you wouldn’t know Schoenfeld. Here, dispute this
https://www.unm.edu/~lkravitz/Article%20folder/musclesgrowLK.html
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No, there is one important difference and the same one I have with you.
I do believe that a certain degree of DOMS is a good thing. But you should never train a muscle that is still in that state of soreness. A sore muscle is still in a state of recovery and to break it down even further is digging yourself into a deeper hole. You have to fill that hole first before you can make it into a hill. You propose to keep training that muscle while it is still in a state of DOMS.
And as John Meadows claims, and as you, yourself, just implied, soreness is not a necessary condition for muscle hypertrophy. I also could never get my biceps sore and when I thought that it was unusual I started asking other trainees if their biceps ever got sore. I've never met anyone who has gotten sore biceps from weight training. But I've met a lot of men with huge biceps.
First of all I have managed to generate DOMS in my biceps several times training on my biceps-supinator machine. I agree that we have to do something extraordinary to stimulate growth.
We all know about DOMS and how we get sore after a layoff or after doing something different like mountain climbing or a severe workout. DOMS was seen as something to avoid. So that is what we did with
beginners. We broke them in gently by prescribing only one or two sets per exercise on the first few workouts. Yes, they avoided DOMS but also missed an opportunity to learn how to grow faster.
You see, Pellius, about 20 years ago I started training my arms hard to see if I could get them bigger than ever before. I was 56 at the time. I got my arms up to about 17 inches cold and there they stayed no matter
how much mechanical tension I applied. Plateau. Then I tried the lying triceps with elbows supported on a special machine I made. The next day my triceps were very sore. How could this happen after perhaps a
month of hard arm training? But it did more than happen....a light lit up in my brain and I knew I was onto something important for hypertrophy. I was familiar with the principles of Hypertrophy Specific Training that you
find on the internet. Intensity, thresholds, time under tension and so on were applied rigorously in my arm workouts. However, nothing much happened until I did a more effective exercise for my triceps.
When the elbows are near the head in the movement the triceps are stretched. Plus having the elbows on a bench prevented them from moving. There were also adjustable side pads that kept the elbows from going
outwards. So I ask you why should a severely trained muscle get sore just by doing a different exercise? To me it meant I triggered hypertrophy. I was quite confident about this because I could measure the size gains
after each arm workout. For those 10 workouts I gained 1/10 inch each time.
I did a thought experiment here re training while sore. If Brian Haycock was right about frequency then I had to retrain the muscle every 3rd day if not sooner. No additional protein gets synthesized after about 48 hours.
What about our primitive ancestors the cave men? Imagine a brave man encountering a wild animal he was trying to kill. Suppose despite his best efforts he failed at getting that prey. The next day he awoke to a very
sore body. Did that stop him from venturing out again searching for food? Absolutely not. Therefore I concluded that we must be able to function near maximum even though sore. I also had to find a way to prevent the
dreaded repeated bout effect. What exercise scientists found was that the effect of compensation would persist for some time even up to a month. If you repeated the same stimulus nothing further would happen re
hypertrophy or strength. You had to once more do something extraordinary to stimulate more improvement. It was easy to conclude that training every third day prevented the repeated bout effect and kept the sore
muscle in a state of perpetual growth. Sort of like rolling a heavy machine tire down the road. It is much easier to keep it rolling than stopping and starting. I did exactly this for one month 20 years ago and gained an
inch on my arms and calves. I was so excited I actually looked forward to each workout. What amazed me was that my strength in the exercises increased very quickly and kept increasing over the month.
I ended up stopping the experiment because I foolishly did ballistic bouncing for very heavy heel raises and damaged my Achilles tendons. Also, I had my elbows on the bench as prescribed by Larry Scott and ended
up damaging my connective sheath over the elbows. Nowadays I keep the elbows clear of pads and no damage occurs.
I still train my arms once a week. Had I more motivation I would try every 3rd day. The truth is the workouts are so brutal that I keep putting them off. Not at all something pleasant to look forward to.
One of the keys to my method is to select effective exercises then warm up with several high rep sets then when you are down to a weight you can lift for 15 reps you stay on that resistance for 5 or more additional sets.
What happens after 2 to 3 maximum sets is that the reps decrease. If you start with 15 then you can still do more than 8 reps after the 5th set. I rest perhaps 3 or more minutes after each superset.
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You don’t recognize anyone so it’s no wonder why you wouldn’t know Schoenfeld. Here, dispute this
https://www.unm.edu/~lkravitz/Article%20folder/musclesgrowLK.html
Len Kravitz, Ph.D doesn't demonstrate that he knows much about maximum muscular hypertrophy.
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Len Kravitz, Ph.D doesn't demonstrate that he knows much about maximum muscular hypertrophy.
I’m done with this clown. He’s trolling and if he isn’t he has nothing to show for it. Not him or anyone he’s trained or published papers. Your stars should be revoked, as a matter of fact I’m going to petition to have them removed just so we can hear you bitch how you deserve them back. You’ve done nothing to warrant having them.
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I’m done with this clown. He’s trolling and if he isn’t he has nothing to show for it. Not him or anyone he’s trained or published papers. Your stars should be revoked, as a matter of fact I’m going to petition to have them removed just so we can hear you bitch how you deserve them back. You’ve done nothing to warrant having them.
No! Not the stars! You're going right for the stars.
You are not a man to trifle with.
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First of all I have managed to generate DOMS in my biceps several times training on my biceps-supinator machine. I agree that we have to do something extraordinary to stimulate growth.
We all know about DOMS and how we get sore after a layoff or after doing something different like mountain climbing or a severe workout. DOMS was seen as something to avoid. So that is what we did with
beginners. We broke them in gently by prescribing only one or two sets per exercise on the first few workouts. Yes, they avoided DOMS but also missed an opportunity to learn how to grow faster.
You see, Pellius, about 20 years ago I started training my arms hard to see if I could get them bigger than ever before. I was 56 at the time. I got my arms up to about 17 inches cold and there they stayed no matter
how much mechanical tension I applied. Plateau. Then I tried the lying triceps with elbows supported on a special machine I made. The next day my triceps were very sore. How could this happen after perhaps a
month of hard arm training? But it did more than happen....a light lit up in my brain and I knew I was onto something important for hypertrophy. I was familiar with the principles of Hypertrophy Specific Training that you
find on the internet. Intensity, thresholds, time under tension and so on were applied rigorously in my arm workouts. However, nothing much happened until I did a more effective exercise for my triceps.
When the elbows are near the head in the movement the triceps are stretched. Plus having the elbows on a bench prevented them from moving. There were also adjustable side pads that kept the elbows from going
outwards. So I ask you why should a severely trained muscle get sore just by doing a different exercise? To me it meant I triggered hypertrophy. I was quite confident about this because I could measure the size gains
after each arm workout. For those 10 workouts I gained 1/10 inch each time.
I did a thought experiment here re training while sore. If Brian Haycock was right about frequency then I had to retrain the muscle every 3rd day if not sooner. No additional protein gets synthesized after about 48 hours.
What about our primitive ancestors the cave men? Imagine a brave man encountering a wild animal he was trying to kill. Suppose despite his best efforts he failed at getting that prey. The next day he awoke to a very
sore body. Did that stop him from venturing out again searching for food? Absolutely not. Therefore I concluded that we must be able to function near maximum even though sore. I also had to find a way to prevent the
dreaded repeated bout effect. What exercise scientists found was that the effect of compensation would persist for some time even up to a month. If you repeated the same stimulus nothing further would happen re
hypertrophy or strength. You had to once more do something extraordinary to stimulate more improvement. It was easy to conclude that training every third day prevented the repeated bout effect and kept the sore
muscle in a state of perpetual growth. Sort of like rolling a heavy machine tire down the road. It is much easier to keep it rolling than stopping and starting. I did exactly this for one month 20 years ago and gained an
inch on my arms and calves. I was so excited I actually looked forward to each workout. What amazed me was that my strength in the exercises increased very quickly and kept increasing over the month.
I ended up stopping the experiment because I foolishly did ballistic bouncing for very heavy heel raises and damaged my Achilles tendons. Also, I had my elbows on the bench as prescribed by Larry Scott and ended
up damaging my connective sheath over the elbows. Nowadays I keep the elbows clear of pads and no damage occurs.
I still train my arms once a week. Had I more motivation I would try every 3rd day. The truth is the workouts are so brutal that I keep putting them off. Not at all something pleasant to look forward to.
One of the keys to my method is to select effective exercises then warm up with several high rep sets then when you are down to a weight you can lift for 15 reps you stay on that resistance for 5 or more additional sets.
What happens after 2 to 3 maximum sets is that the reps decrease. If you start with 15 then you can still do more than 8 reps after the 5th set. I rest perhaps 3 or more minutes after each superset.
We've gone through your caveman analogy many times and my response is still the same. Just because the caveman has to continue the hunt the next day because of the previous day's failure does not mean he is "growing" or improving. In fact, after each day he fails his ability to hunt the next day decreases.
There was a PBS documentary on cheetahs and how they are becoming extinct. They expend so much energy bringing down a prey that each time they fail their chances of success begins to decrease as their physical ability declines. They get weaker not only from the energy expended hunting but also not getting adequate recovery due to lack of nutrients. A cheetah gets three maybe four shots at a kill before he can no longer hunt and will die of due to physical weakness and wasting away.
So like our caveman. Each time he fails he gets progressively weaker and less able physically to perform the physical demands hunting entails.
I also find that muscles are more apt to get sore when a muscle is worked in a range of motion so that there is a strong stretch on the muscle. Triceps worked in the manner you described permits a very intense stretch on that muscle than, say, the typical tricep push down. Overhead pulldowns with a narrow grip will more likely elicit lat soreness than, say, bent over rows.
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Pellius you are the only person here who is worth discussing things with. No point continuing if you have nothing to learn or gain.
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Lol, holy fucking shit. There is so much “TL:DR” in this thread it’s not even funny. What is going on, what are y’all babbling about? :D
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Lol, holy fucking shit. There is so much “TL:DR” in this thread it’s not even funny. What is going on, what are y’all babbling about? :D
Vince Basil’s is blabbing on about maximum hypertrophy and getting owned in the process.
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Vince Basil’s is blabbing on about maximum hypertrophic and getting owned in the process.
good observation sf, what vince needs to do is make it simple like " if you want to get huger do test and eat more and do even more drugs"
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Disgraceful reply proving you know nothing special about hypertrophy.
Pipe down. You do not know anything. Despite not knowing about your theory, I still achieve results as a lifetime natural. You're making it too complicated to make yourself seem important because you're jealous of Arnold. It's not complicated. It's lifting weights. No special hypertrophy theory. No dumb bicep supination machines. Just a balanced diet and lifting weights.
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good observation sf, what vince needs to do is make it simple like " if you want to get huger do test and eat more and do even more drugs"
Great point, OSF. Basile is trying to make it seem more complicated because he's jealous of Arnold.
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No! Not the stars! You're going right for the stars.
You are not a man to trifle with.
Seems like there should be some sort of statute of limitations. Vince hasn’t been in shape since the 1970s.🤔
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Vince’s mythical theory of hypertrophy actually refers to hypertrophy of the adipose tissue, an endeavour in which he has had a tremendous amount of success.
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Vince’s mythical theory of hypertrophy actually refers to hypertrophy of the adipose tissue, an endeavour in which he has had a tremendous amount of success.
;D ;D ;D
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Pipe down. You do not know anything. Despite not knowing about your theory, I still achieve results as a lifetime natural. You're making it too complicated to make yourself seem important because you're jealous of Arnold. It's not complicated. It's lifting weights. No special hypertrophy theory. No dumb bicep supination machines. Just a balanced diet and lifting weights.
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I don't know if it's genetic or just a life time of training but I rarely get sore anymore from running or lifting. Don't get me wrong. I get slightly sore but nothing of note.
On a side note anyone that takes steroids should be disqualified from giving training advice. If you look like crap off steroids then what good does your training knowledge do for you or anyone else? Been around this game long enough to see guys on juice look good giving out advice but when off cycle for any long period like a couple of months look like they never trained a day in their life.
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I don't know if it's genetic or just a life time of training but I rarely get sore anymore from running or lifting. Don't get me wrong. I get slightly sore but nothing of note.
On a side note anyone that takes steroids should be disqualified from giving training advice. If you look like crap off steroids then what good does your training knowledge do for you or anyone else? Been around this game long enough to see guys on juice look good giving out advice but when off cycle for any long period like a couple of months look like they never trained a day in their life.
Oh really? Something tells me you don’t know enough about either to comment on it and if you do, can you elaborate?
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Oh really? Something tells me you don’t know enough about either to comment on it and if you do, can you elaborate?
To be honest Coach, it’s like an ex-professional bicycle racer I know who gives advice on training to drug free cyclists. He was caught using EPO and HGH during his career and had to retire. I take his advice with a grain of salt since he was just an average athlete till he went on the gas.
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To be honest Coach, it’s like an ex-professional bicycle racer I know who gives advice on training to drug free cyclists. He was caught using EPO and HGH during his career and had to retire. I take his advice with a grain of salt since he was just an average athlete till he went on the gas.
But here’s the thing about that. Training athletes is not like training for bodybuilding, it’s apples and oranges. I can train football players (or power athletes in general) to be stronger and faster than an enhanced athlete. Just because someone is on gear doesn’t mean automatic success. You have to know how to train.
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I don't recognize Brad Schoenfeld, PhD as an expert in maximum muscular hypertrophy. Period. His methods won't lead to maximum hypertrophy.
Vince, you are plenty smart enough to know that's illogical. You are "begging the question," wherein your premises and conclusion are simply stating the same thing in only very vaguely different words.
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Week 8
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bq_gYTZCxrS/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=1k7bhn1k0h88k
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Week 8
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bq_gYTZCxrS/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=1k7bhn1k0h88k
Damn, you move those like it was nothing. I can't even clean that weight let alone press it.
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Oh really? Something tells me you don’t know enough about either to comment on it and if you do, can you elaborate?
Yes, I can run a hard 5 mile run faster than you could ever dream about or do 100 meter repeats and I don't get sore the next day. Same with lifting. Could be a genetic trait or just a life time of training. I get mild soreness but nothing like I hear the majority complain about.
Regarding steroids you know what you would look like 6 months truly clean. Tired of steroid users acting like they are training gurus when they they look like crap without the assist. All your fancy terms that you retrieve in folders on your lap top to sound like a PhD in exercise physiology taken from the bs personal trainer books do not impress me.
Going to be point blank with complete candor here. I use to correspond with Casey Viator. He told me how his blood tests come back great. I told him there is more to health than blood tests. Shortly after he was dead. You had a first class warning about your life style and genetic traits with your stroke warning but your ego tells you that you know everything about steroids, health and training. Want some real advice. Your heart is the most important muscle. Your health doesn't care about your bench. Your health does care about if you have a good VO2. No, it's not a cure all. Nothing is. Get off steroids and pay attention to cardio as much as you do lifting weights. I could be dead today from a heart attack but I try to put the odds in my favor.
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Yes, I can run a hard 5 mile run faster than you could ever dream about or do 100 meter repeats and I don't get sore the next day. Same with lifting. Could be a genetic trait or just a life time of training. I get mild soreness but nothing like I hear the majority complain about.
I have nor have I ever had the desire to run 5 miles but you're talking about what YOU do and what YOU have been doing. This doesn't mean you're qualified to train elite athletes. You seem to not want to learn anything other what you've picked up along the way or by what you've heard without delving more into it. Chances are, you're getting sore (not that this means much) because you do the same thing day in and day out, and chances are you're not logging better times. This would make sense because of 1. You're getting older and 2. By your description, you're trying to train for two different sports that REQUIRE training two different energy systems. Long distance is lactic and 100 meter sprint repeats are alactic. The long distance runs off of the Aerobic energy system, the sprints run off of the ATP/CP system, and no, you cannot compare lifting weights (specifically higher volume bodybuilding-type workouts to running. But hey, If you like to run then good on you
Regarding steroids you know what you would look like 6 months truly clean. Tired of steroid users acting like they are training gurus when they they look like crap without the assist. All your fancy terms that you retrieve in folders on your lap top to sound like a PhD in exercise physiology taken from the bs personal trainer books do not impress me.
You obviously take me for some 20 year old kid that got a cert through employment at a 24hr fitness. The last time I picked up a "personal training cert book" was over 20 years ago, since then and up until last year, I spent upwards of $10-12k per year for almost 15 years on continuing education but, whatever. You seem to think that all training is the same be it for bodybuilding or for sport. Regarding steroids, I'm clean 8 months of the year unless my test levels drop below normal then I'm back on the prescription HRT, that being said, I know EXACTLY what I look like when I'm off.
Going to be point blank with complete candor here. I use to correspond with Casey Viator. He told me how his blood tests come back great. I told him there is more to health than blood tests. Shortly after he was dead. You had a first class warning about your life style and genetic traits with your stroke warning but your ego tells you that you know everything about steroids, health and training. Want some real advice. Your heart is the most important muscle. Your health doesn't care about your bench. Your health does care about if you have a good VO2. No, it's not a cure all. Nothing is. Get off steroids and pay attention to cardio as much as you do lifting weights. I could be dead today from a heart attack but I try to put the odds in my favor.
1. Blood tests are just one part of it, it's the full and complete workup that counts. The scans, the cardiac MRI's, the scopes but most of all, it's managing BP and cholesterol levels. 2. My "life style" is and was fine with the execption of having a business that kept me busy 14-16 hrs per day. Here are my genetic traits are far as my health, we have no cancers or heart disease that runs in my family, what about yours? As far as my stroke, it was TIA
I don't think you really watched it..
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Coach I'm not worried about your health,I'm more worried about your videos while driving you don't seem like mario andretti type behind the wheel.
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Coach I'm not worried about your health,I'm more worried about your videos while driving you don't seem like mario andretti type behind the wheel.
I think better when I’m driving which why so many of my vids are done while driving. When I drive to Vegas for example. I get more content in and usually do IG Q&A lives for 1-2 hours at time while driving
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10 weeks post tear. Almost 100%
https://www.instagram.com/p/BrgxzJqgqYz/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=140zq1ngqiqqa
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10 weeks post tear. Almost 100%
https://www.instagram.com/p/BrgxzJqgqYz/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=140zq1ngqiqqa
One thing I most love when watching guys that are from my generation that started training in the 70s and 80s was they just do normal full reps. Just the simple up and down, push and pull. All the way up and all the way down. Seem like just the natural thing to do and we did it.