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Title: Dems Flipped Over Half of Orange County House Seats After Election Night
Post by: Coach is Back! on November 26, 2018, 01:41:44 PM
Awfully suspicious since they had no platform to run on and kept wanting recounts after they have already lost on election night...


https://news.iheart.com/featured/rush-limbaugh/content/2018-11-20-rush-limbaugh-blog-dems-flipped-over-half-of-orange-county-house-seats-after-election-night/
Title: Re: Dems Flipped Over Half of Orange County House Seats After Election Night
Post by: Straw Man on November 26, 2018, 02:06:02 PM
Awfully suspicious since they had no platform to run on and kept wanting recounts after they have already lost on election night...


https://news.iheart.com/featured/rush-limbaugh/content/2018-11-20-rush-limbaugh-blog-dems-flipped-over-half-of-orange-county-house-seats-after-election-night/

Fake News

Witch Hunt

Title: Re: Dems Flipped Over Half of Orange County House Seats After Election Night
Post by: Humble Narcissist on November 27, 2018, 04:06:14 AM
Awfully suspicious since they had no platform to run on and kept wanting recounts after they have already lost on election night...


https://news.iheart.com/featured/rush-limbaugh/content/2018-11-20-rush-limbaugh-blog-dems-flipped-over-half-of-orange-county-house-seats-after-election-night/
They were sending multiple ballots to dems and independents.  I'm sure no lib voted more than once. ::)
Title: Re: Dems Flipped Over Half of Orange County House Seats After Election Night
Post by: Straw Man on November 27, 2018, 08:09:45 AM
They were sending multiple ballots to dems and independents.  I'm sure no lib voted more than once. ::)

Fake News

Witch Hunt

No Collusion
Title: Re: Dems Flipped Over Half of Orange County House Seats After Election Night
Post by: Humble Narcissist on November 27, 2018, 11:04:51 AM
Why is it that only Democrats are against voter ID?
Title: Re: Dems Flipped Over Half of Orange County House Seats After Election Night
Post by: Coach is Back! on November 27, 2018, 11:11:42 AM
Why is it that only Democrats are against voter ID?

Makes it easier for them to cheat because they can't win any other way.
Title: Re: Dems Flipped Over Half of Orange County House Seats After Election Night
Post by: Straw Man on November 27, 2018, 12:18:30 PM
Why is it that only Democrats are against voter ID?

Why do the courts keep overturning voter ID laws and saying they are designed to suppress legal voters?

Why do Republicans want to suppress legal voters and even brag about using voter id laws to accomplish that goal?
Title: Re: Dems Flipped Over Half of Orange County House Seats After Election Night
Post by: Humble Narcissist on November 27, 2018, 12:36:50 PM
Why do the courts overturning voter ID laws are saying they are designed to suppress legal voters?

Why do Republicans want to suppress legal voters and even brag about using voter id laws to accomplish that goal?
1) Because they are liberal hack judges.

2) Bullshit.  Only people who don't have ID. ::)  Oh, and felons on the run who are afraid to show ID because they might get picked up by the police.  That's a great base you have for a party.
Title: Re: Dems Flipped Over Half of Orange County House Seats After Election Night
Post by: Grape Ape on November 27, 2018, 12:39:39 PM
Why do the courts keep overturning voter ID laws and saying they are designed to suppress legal voters?

Why do Republicans want to suppress legal voters and even brag about using voter id laws to accomplish that goal?

Why would showing ID supress legal voters?
Title: Re: Dems Flipped Over Half of Orange County House Seats After Election Night
Post by: Dos Equis on November 27, 2018, 02:52:26 PM
Why would showing ID supress legal voters?

It doesn’t.
Title: Re: Dems Flipped Over Half of Orange County House Seats After Election Night
Post by: Straw Man on November 27, 2018, 03:43:28 PM
Why would showing ID supress legal voters?

one recent example are Native Americans in North Dakota

The voter ID law in that states requires that their ID have a street address

Apparently many Native Americans don't have a permanent address and use  PO Box on their ID

So they have a perfectly valid ID but it can't be used to vote

You can find many other examples where these laws are DESIGNED suppress or deter legitimate and legal voters from voting

Luckily it turns out they are not nearly as effective at voter suppression as Republican had hoped

BTW - you can find many legal challenges where various voter ID laws were overturned and the judge concluded the intent was suppression

Title: Re: Dems Flipped Over Half of Orange County House Seats After Election Night
Post by: Grape Ape on November 27, 2018, 04:03:16 PM
one recent example are Native Americans in North Dakota

The voter ID law in that states requires that their ID have a street address

Apparently many Native Americans don't have a permanent address and use  PO Box on their ID

So they have a perfectly valid ID but it can't be used to vote

You can find many other examples where these laws are DESIGNED suppress or deter legitimate and legal voters from voting

Luckily it turns out they are not nearly as effective at voter suppression as Republican had hoped

BTW - you can find many legal challenges where various voter ID laws were overturned and the judge concluded the intent was suppression



Read up on that and yes, the way they wrote the state law was indeed stupid and needs to be changed.   Native Americans in the situation still had avenues to vote, but definitely was a procedural and logistical mess.

But both parties are guilty in election process bullshit.
Title: Re: Dems Flipped Over Half of Orange County House Seats After Election Night
Post by: Straw Man on November 27, 2018, 04:10:40 PM
Read up on that and yes, the way they wrote the state law was indeed stupid and needs to be changed.   Native Americans in the situation still had avenues to vote, but definitely was a procedural and logistical mess.

But both parties are guilty in election process bullshit.

only one party is guilty of designing voter ID laws in an attempt to suppress the voters of the other party
Title: Re: Dems Flipped Over Half of Orange County House Seats After Election Night
Post by: Grape Ape on November 27, 2018, 07:58:34 PM
only one party is guilty of designing voter ID laws in an attempt to suppress the voters of the other party


You're right - the other party primarily focuses on rigging elections and voter fraud.
Title: Re: Dems Flipped Over Half of Orange County House Seats After Election Night
Post by: Straw Man on November 27, 2018, 08:09:25 PM
You're right - the other party primarily focuses on rigging elections and voter fraud.

nope, that the same party that creates all the voter ID laws while fantasizing about non-existent voter fraud

#no collusion

Title: Re: Dems Flipped Over Half of Orange County House Seats After Election Night
Post by: Humble Narcissist on November 28, 2018, 04:05:12 AM
one recent example are Native Americans in North Dakota

The voter ID law in that states requires that their ID have a street address

Apparently many Native Americans don't have a permanent address and use  PO Box on their ID

So they have a perfectly valid ID but it can't be used to vote

You can find many other examples where these laws are DESIGNED suppress or deter legitimate and legal voters from voting

Luckily it turns out they are not nearly as effective at voter suppression as Republican had hoped

BTW - you can find many legal challenges where various voter ID laws were overturned and the judge concluded the intent was suppression


I see this bullshit from libs all over the internet now.  Native Americans have ID just like everyone else.  You can't do anything without ID (buy cigarettes, booze, get into clubs, go to school, cash any check anywhere, open any type of account anywhere, get a library card, etc) but yet the democratic party is just chock full of millions of people nationwide who don't have ID.  It's black people in the south and natives in the west, hispanics in the southwest and poor whites in the midwest and northeast that don't have ID and they all happen to be democrats.  It couldn't possibly be just an excuse to cheat, could it?  When the republicans offered free voter ID in the south the democrats were against it because they said there are people afraid to come forward to the registration center because they have warrants and were afraid of being arrested.  Some base your party has. ::)
Title: Re: Dems Flipped Over Half of Orange County House Seats After Election Night
Post by: Grape Ape on November 28, 2018, 05:42:20 AM
I see this bullshit from libs all over the internet now.  Native Americans have ID just like everyone else.

In this instance, they did not - their IDs didn't have an address, just a PO box for their reservation, and the state said those wouldn't be acceptable.   I read multiple articles on it, because we have to look at each instance of this for what it is - can't just be completely partisan on everything like Strawman.
Title: Re: Dems Flipped Over Half of Orange County House Seats After Election Night
Post by: SOMEPARTS on November 28, 2018, 08:16:19 AM
In this instance, they did not - their IDs didn't have an address, just a PO box for their reservation, and the state said those wouldn't be acceptable.   I read multiple articles on it, because we have to look at each instance of this for what it is - can't just be completely partisan on everything like Strawman.


What are we talking here like 100 votes?  ;D Come on.
Title: Re: Dems Flipped Over Half of Orange County House Seats After Election Night
Post by: Grape Ape on November 28, 2018, 08:58:45 AM

What are we talking here like 100 votes?  ;D Come on.

Nah, it was significant.
Title: Re: Dems Flipped Over Half of Orange County House Seats After Election Night
Post by: Humble Narcissist on November 28, 2018, 10:45:21 AM
In this instance, they did not - their IDs didn't have an address, just a PO box for their reservation, and the state said those wouldn't be acceptable.   I read multiple articles on it, because we have to look at each instance of this for what it is - can't just be completely partisan on everything like Strawman.
Bullshit, those people had plenty of time to get ID's.  Do they have driver's licenses or state ID's?  How many people on reservations don't have ID?  Natives get all kind's of assistance from the government and you have to have ID to qualify or cash any government check.
Title: Re: Dems Flipped Over Half of Orange County House Seats After Election Night
Post by: Grape Ape on November 28, 2018, 11:31:20 AM
Bullshit, those people had plenty of time to get ID's.  Do they have driver's licenses or state ID's?  How many people on reservations don't have ID?  Natives get all kind's of assistance from the government and you have to have ID to qualify or cash any government check.

Read a fucking article already.

You were already wrong on your first point about the ID itself, now you're doubling down.

Quote
It is an extraordinary situation: the electoral process thrown into chaos at the last minute

As I said, there were avenues to get there, but it was difficult and with time constraints.
Title: Re: Dems Flipped Over Half of Orange County House Seats After Election Night
Post by: Humble Narcissist on November 28, 2018, 11:35:12 AM
Read a fucking article already.

You were already wrong on your first point about the ID itself, now you're doubling down.

As I said, there were avenues to get there, but it was difficult and with time constraints.

I'll triple down, it's bullshit!
Title: Re: Dems Flipped Over Half of Orange County House Seats After Election Night
Post by: Straw Man on November 28, 2018, 01:56:18 PM
Read a fucking article already.

You were already wrong on your first point about the ID itself, now you're doubling down.

As I said, there were avenues to get there, but it was difficult and with time constraints.


LOL

welcome to the reality of dealing with a Trumptard (and most of the right wing posters on this board)

Hargument is the same argument right wingers have about voter fraud.  In spite of the fact that it doesn't exist (other than a handful of instances which are statistically insignificant) the right wing of this country still believes it not only exists but it exists in such a large amount that it effects the outcomes of elections.  It's called belief in the absence of proof or belief in spite of proof to the contrary. 

It's no different than Trumptard refusing to believe the result of the recent climate report issued by our government.

He doesn't like results and the results are contrary to his beliefs so he just chooses to not believe it

Title: Re: Dems Flipped Over Half of Orange County House Seats After Election Night
Post by: Primemuscle on November 28, 2018, 02:33:25 PM
Fake News

Witch Hunt

No Collusion

Republican (Trump) rant.  ;)
Title: Re: Dems Flipped Over Half of Orange County House Seats After Election Night
Post by: Humble Narcissist on November 28, 2018, 03:44:30 PM
LOL

welcome to the reality of dealing with a Trumptard (and most of the right wing posters on this board)

Hargument is the same argument right wingers have about voter fraud.  In spite of the fact that it doesn't exist (other than a handful of instances which are statistically insignificant) the right wing of this country still believes it not only exists but it exists in such a large amount that it effects the outcomes of elections.  It's called belief in the absence of proof or belief in spite of proof to the contrary. 

It's no different than Trumptard refusing to believe the result of the recent climate report issued by our government.

He doesn't like results and the results are contrary to his beliefs so he just chooses to not believe it


And yet you libtards freak out about voter ID.  Your climate change is a fraud as well.  Just another way for the gov to take more control of private business.  In the 70's it was global cooling, then poisoned oceans, then acid rain, then global warming and now climate change.  France citizens are now protesting the skyrocketing cost of fuel because their idiot president agreed to the stupid climate accord deal.  Thank God we have Trump to ax the bullshit Obama started.
Title: Re: Dems Flipped Over Half of Orange County House Seats After Election Night
Post by: mazrim on November 28, 2018, 04:32:39 PM


It's no different than Trumptard refusing to believe the result of the recent climate report issued by our government.




Grasping having very conflicting emotions right now.

Trump's government is a sham/filled with liars yet on this point they are correct/telling the truth. What is he to do? Aha, these must be the "truthful" ones!
To practically use his own post just by switching it around a bit 'He likes the results and the results align with his beliefs so he chooses to believe it'.

Or could he believe that the government is always right now?

Or could it be that among the millions of government employees these "truthful" ones might possibly be not so truthful and hold biases similar to Graspings? Could it be that they might even be holdovers from a certain president, ideaology, etc. that he worships?

Title: Re: Dems Flipped Over Half of Orange County House Seats After Election Night
Post by: Grape Ape on November 28, 2018, 05:58:09 PM
LOL

welcome to the reality of dealing with a Trumptard (and most of the right wing posters on this board)


Your lack of self-awareness is staggering.

You are the left wing equivalent of what you posted above.

But,  right wing posters here have the ability to concede on a point, whereas you do not.

Title: Re: Dems Flipped Over Half of Orange County House Seats After Election Night
Post by: chaos on November 28, 2018, 06:07:51 PM
Your lack of self-awareness is staggering.

You are the left wing equivalent of what you posted above.

But,  right wing posters here have the ability to concede on a point, whereas you do not.


You just drew a target on your own back buddy! ;D
Title: Re: Dems Flipped Over Half of Orange County House Seats After Election Night
Post by: Straw Man on November 28, 2018, 06:12:58 PM
Your lack of self-awareness is staggering.

You are the left wing equivalent of what you posted above.

But,  right wing posters here have the ability to concede on a point, whereas you do not.



right back at you man

On so many issues people like you just ignore the facts and live in your own reality

let's take actual cases of voter fraud.  We see a handful of cases over millions of votes cast over many different elections yet we have people (perhaps this is your opinion too) who simply choose to ignore the facts and believe that millions of fraudulent votes are cast in each election.  

We have president Trumptard promoting the scenario that people simply go outside and put on a different hat and then go back inside and vote again and he has publicly claimed that MILLIONS of illegal votes were cast in the last election

Do you remember Trump's Blue Ribbon Voter Fraud Panel that was going to get to the bottom of this once and for all.

Result - they shut it down after not being able to find any evidence of voter fraud (although of course Trump lied and said they did)

and on it goes

just believe whatever the fuck you want

All that really matters is what you believe

In the age of Trumptardism Belief is Reality
Title: Re: Dems Flipped Over Half of Orange County House Seats After Election Night
Post by: chaos on November 28, 2018, 06:18:49 PM
You just drew a target on your own back buddy! ;D
right back at you man

On so many issues people like you just ignore the facts and live in your own reality

let's take actual cases of voter fraud.  We see a handful of cases over millions of votes cast over many different elections yet we have people (perhaps this is your opinion too) who simply choose to ignore the facts and believe that millions of fraudulent votes are cast in each election. 

We have president Trumptard promoting the scenario that people simply go outside and put on a different hat and then go back inside and vote again and he has publicly claimed that MILLIONS of illegal votes were cast in the last election

Do you remember Trump's Blue Ribbon Voter Fraud Panel that was going to get to the bottom of this once and for all.

Result - they shut it down after not being able to find any evidence of voter fraud (although of course Trump lied and said they did)

and on it goes

just believe whatever the fuck you want

All that really matters is what you believe

In the age of Trumptardism Belief is Reality
;D
Title: Re: Dems Flipped Over Half of Orange County House Seats After Election Night
Post by: Straw Man on November 28, 2018, 06:26:37 PM
You just drew a target on your own back buddy! ;D

don't be such a drama queen
Title: Re: Dems Flipped Over Half of Orange County House Seats After Election Night
Post by: Coach is Back! on November 28, 2018, 08:32:36 PM
Dems are pond scum. They can’t win on issues. Never could


https://myemail.constantcontact.com/You-Don-t-Need--Voter-Fraud----When-a-14-point-lead-Disappears---Shawn-Steel---Washington-Times.html?soid=1117424089885&aid=UlPJYp3KOYQ


Arguing with a liberal on capital Hill is no different than arguing with any other liberal in the private sector. Given a fair debate, a high schooler could win an issues debate.
Title: Re: Dems Flipped Over Half of Orange County House Seats After Election Night
Post by: Straw Man on November 29, 2018, 12:03:34 AM
Grasping having very conflicting emotions right now.

Trump's government is a sham/filled with liars yet on this point they are correct/telling the truth. What is he to do? Aha, these must be the "truthful" ones!
To practically use his own post just by switching it around a bit 'He likes the results and the results align with his beliefs so he chooses to believe it'.

Or could he believe that the government is always right now?

Or could it be that among the millions of government employees these "truthful" ones might possibly be not so truthful and hold biases similar to Graspings? Could it be that they might even be holdovers from a certain president, ideaology, etc. that he worships?



News Flash - He didn't prepare the report dipshit

I doubt he even read it

I assume you're aware that there are large parts of the government that are not tainted by his personal stupidity or idiotic appointee's

You do know that ....right?
Title: Re: Dems Flipped Over Half of Orange County House Seats After Election Night
Post by: Grape Ape on November 29, 2018, 04:59:29 AM

On so many issues people like you just ignore the facts and live in your own reality



Oh, like the voter issue you posted, where I did research, read multiple artices, and pretty much agreed with it?


Title: Re: Dems Flipped Over Half of Orange County House Seats After Election Night
Post by: mazrim on November 29, 2018, 06:50:59 AM
News Flash - He didn't prepare the report dipshit

I doubt he even read it

I assume you're aware that there are large parts of the government that are not tainted by his personal stupidity or idiotic appointee's

You do know that ....right?

Posting about not reading while not reading a short post...tsk, tsk. Embarrassing.

News flash. Best not to try and make a point that was acknowledged already in the post quoted. You are aware of that, right? Bolding doesn't make you any smarter.

This is of course assuming you have some ability to read beyond three sentences. Doubt it.

Title: Re: Dems Flipped Over Half of Orange County House Seats After Election Night
Post by: Straw Man on November 29, 2018, 08:09:35 AM
Posting about not reading while not reading a short post...tsk, tsk. Embarrassing.

News flash. Best not to try and make a point that was acknowledged already in the post quoted. You are aware of that, right? Bolding doesn't make you any smarter.

This is of course assuming you have some ability to read beyond three sentences. Doubt it.



so I misread your post and you're not suggesting that the every corner of the government is filled with incompetent Trump cronies

correct?

or are you suggesting the department who produced this climate report are just left over Obama cronies

Title: Re: Dems Flipped Over Half of Orange County House Seats After Election Night
Post by: chaos on December 01, 2018, 12:27:05 PM
so I misread your post and you're not suggesting that the every corner of the government is filled with incompetent Trump cronies

correct?

or are you suggesting the department who produced this climate report are just left over Obama cronies


LMAO!! Are you insinuating that every corner of the government isn't filled with Clinton/Obama/Bush cronies? :D
Title: Re: Dems Flipped Over Half of Orange County House Seats After Election Night
Post by: Primemuscle on December 02, 2018, 11:22:20 AM
And yet you libtards freak out about voter ID.  Your climate change is a fraud as well.  Just another way for the gov to take more control of private business.  In the 70's it was global cooling, then poisoned oceans, then acid rain, then global warming and now climate change.  France citizens are now protesting the skyrocketing cost of fuel because their idiot president agreed to the stupid climate accord deal.  Thank God we have Trump to ax the bullshit Obama started.

Depending on your age, you may actually find out whether science or Trump and his tards are right about climate change.
Title: Re: Dems Flipped Over Half of Orange County House Seats After Election Night
Post by: Humble Narcissist on December 02, 2018, 02:04:48 PM
Depending on your age, you may actually find out whether science or Trump and his tards are right about climate change.
In the next 20 years it will be some other nonsense but the solution is always the same: MORE taxes and MORE government.
Title: Re: Dems Flipped Over Half of Orange County House Seats After Election Night
Post by: mazrim on December 02, 2018, 04:49:03 PM
Depending on your age, you may actually find out whether science or Trump and his tards are right about climate change.
You do realize that there are many scientists who disagree with your hardline stance? So far they and us have been right "Libtard". You and your kind have been continuously wrong in this matter. Maybe when it happens again you/they will change the name again to suit their agenda?