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Awfully suspicious since they had no platform to run on and kept wanting recounts after they have already lost on election night...


https://news.iheart.com/featured/rush-limbaugh/content/2018-11-20-rush-limbaugh-blog-dems-flipped-over-half-of-orange-county-house-seats-after-election-night/

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Re: Dems Flipped Over Half of Orange County House Seats After Election Night
« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2018, 02:06:02 PM »
Awfully suspicious since they had no platform to run on and kept wanting recounts after they have already lost on election night...


https://news.iheart.com/featured/rush-limbaugh/content/2018-11-20-rush-limbaugh-blog-dems-flipped-over-half-of-orange-county-house-seats-after-election-night/

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Re: Dems Flipped Over Half of Orange County House Seats After Election Night
« Reply #2 on: November 27, 2018, 04:06:14 AM »
Awfully suspicious since they had no platform to run on and kept wanting recounts after they have already lost on election night...


https://news.iheart.com/featured/rush-limbaugh/content/2018-11-20-rush-limbaugh-blog-dems-flipped-over-half-of-orange-county-house-seats-after-election-night/
They were sending multiple ballots to dems and independents.  I'm sure no lib voted more than once. ::)

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Re: Dems Flipped Over Half of Orange County House Seats After Election Night
« Reply #3 on: November 27, 2018, 08:09:45 AM »
They were sending multiple ballots to dems and independents.  I'm sure no lib voted more than once. ::)

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Re: Dems Flipped Over Half of Orange County House Seats After Election Night
« Reply #4 on: November 27, 2018, 11:04:51 AM »
Why is it that only Democrats are against voter ID?

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Re: Dems Flipped Over Half of Orange County House Seats After Election Night
« Reply #5 on: November 27, 2018, 11:11:42 AM »
Why is it that only Democrats are against voter ID?

Makes it easier for them to cheat because they can't win any other way.

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Re: Dems Flipped Over Half of Orange County House Seats After Election Night
« Reply #6 on: November 27, 2018, 12:18:30 PM »
Why is it that only Democrats are against voter ID?

Why do the courts keep overturning voter ID laws and saying they are designed to suppress legal voters?

Why do Republicans want to suppress legal voters and even brag about using voter id laws to accomplish that goal?

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Re: Dems Flipped Over Half of Orange County House Seats After Election Night
« Reply #7 on: November 27, 2018, 12:36:50 PM »
Why do the courts overturning voter ID laws are saying they are designed to suppress legal voters?

Why do Republicans want to suppress legal voters and even brag about using voter id laws to accomplish that goal?
1) Because they are liberal hack judges.

2) Bullshit.  Only people who don't have ID. ::)  Oh, and felons on the run who are afraid to show ID because they might get picked up by the police.  That's a great base you have for a party.

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Re: Dems Flipped Over Half of Orange County House Seats After Election Night
« Reply #8 on: November 27, 2018, 12:39:39 PM »
Why do the courts keep overturning voter ID laws and saying they are designed to suppress legal voters?

Why do Republicans want to suppress legal voters and even brag about using voter id laws to accomplish that goal?

Why would showing ID supress legal voters?
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Re: Dems Flipped Over Half of Orange County House Seats After Election Night
« Reply #9 on: November 27, 2018, 02:52:26 PM »
Why would showing ID supress legal voters?

It doesn’t.

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Re: Dems Flipped Over Half of Orange County House Seats After Election Night
« Reply #10 on: November 27, 2018, 03:43:28 PM »
Why would showing ID supress legal voters?

one recent example are Native Americans in North Dakota

The voter ID law in that states requires that their ID have a street address

Apparently many Native Americans don't have a permanent address and use  PO Box on their ID

So they have a perfectly valid ID but it can't be used to vote

You can find many other examples where these laws are DESIGNED suppress or deter legitimate and legal voters from voting

Luckily it turns out they are not nearly as effective at voter suppression as Republican had hoped

BTW - you can find many legal challenges where various voter ID laws were overturned and the judge concluded the intent was suppression


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Re: Dems Flipped Over Half of Orange County House Seats After Election Night
« Reply #11 on: November 27, 2018, 04:03:16 PM »
one recent example are Native Americans in North Dakota

The voter ID law in that states requires that their ID have a street address

Apparently many Native Americans don't have a permanent address and use  PO Box on their ID

So they have a perfectly valid ID but it can't be used to vote

You can find many other examples where these laws are DESIGNED suppress or deter legitimate and legal voters from voting

Luckily it turns out they are not nearly as effective at voter suppression as Republican had hoped

BTW - you can find many legal challenges where various voter ID laws were overturned and the judge concluded the intent was suppression



Read up on that and yes, the way they wrote the state law was indeed stupid and needs to be changed.   Native Americans in the situation still had avenues to vote, but definitely was a procedural and logistical mess.

But both parties are guilty in election process bullshit.
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Re: Dems Flipped Over Half of Orange County House Seats After Election Night
« Reply #12 on: November 27, 2018, 04:10:40 PM »
Read up on that and yes, the way they wrote the state law was indeed stupid and needs to be changed.   Native Americans in the situation still had avenues to vote, but definitely was a procedural and logistical mess.

But both parties are guilty in election process bullshit.

only one party is guilty of designing voter ID laws in an attempt to suppress the voters of the other party

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Re: Dems Flipped Over Half of Orange County House Seats After Election Night
« Reply #13 on: November 27, 2018, 07:58:34 PM »
only one party is guilty of designing voter ID laws in an attempt to suppress the voters of the other party


You're right - the other party primarily focuses on rigging elections and voter fraud.
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Re: Dems Flipped Over Half of Orange County House Seats After Election Night
« Reply #14 on: November 27, 2018, 08:09:25 PM »
You're right - the other party primarily focuses on rigging elections and voter fraud.

nope, that the same party that creates all the voter ID laws while fantasizing about non-existent voter fraud

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Re: Dems Flipped Over Half of Orange County House Seats After Election Night
« Reply #15 on: November 28, 2018, 04:05:12 AM »
one recent example are Native Americans in North Dakota

The voter ID law in that states requires that their ID have a street address

Apparently many Native Americans don't have a permanent address and use  PO Box on their ID

So they have a perfectly valid ID but it can't be used to vote

You can find many other examples where these laws are DESIGNED suppress or deter legitimate and legal voters from voting

Luckily it turns out they are not nearly as effective at voter suppression as Republican had hoped

BTW - you can find many legal challenges where various voter ID laws were overturned and the judge concluded the intent was suppression


I see this bullshit from libs all over the internet now.  Native Americans have ID just like everyone else.  You can't do anything without ID (buy cigarettes, booze, get into clubs, go to school, cash any check anywhere, open any type of account anywhere, get a library card, etc) but yet the democratic party is just chock full of millions of people nationwide who don't have ID.  It's black people in the south and natives in the west, hispanics in the southwest and poor whites in the midwest and northeast that don't have ID and they all happen to be democrats.  It couldn't possibly be just an excuse to cheat, could it?  When the republicans offered free voter ID in the south the democrats were against it because they said there are people afraid to come forward to the registration center because they have warrants and were afraid of being arrested.  Some base your party has. ::)

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Re: Dems Flipped Over Half of Orange County House Seats After Election Night
« Reply #16 on: November 28, 2018, 05:42:20 AM »
I see this bullshit from libs all over the internet now.  Native Americans have ID just like everyone else.

In this instance, they did not - their IDs didn't have an address, just a PO box for their reservation, and the state said those wouldn't be acceptable.   I read multiple articles on it, because we have to look at each instance of this for what it is - can't just be completely partisan on everything like Strawman.
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Re: Dems Flipped Over Half of Orange County House Seats After Election Night
« Reply #17 on: November 28, 2018, 08:16:19 AM »
In this instance, they did not - their IDs didn't have an address, just a PO box for their reservation, and the state said those wouldn't be acceptable.   I read multiple articles on it, because we have to look at each instance of this for what it is - can't just be completely partisan on everything like Strawman.


What are we talking here like 100 votes?  ;D Come on.

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Re: Dems Flipped Over Half of Orange County House Seats After Election Night
« Reply #18 on: November 28, 2018, 08:58:45 AM »

What are we talking here like 100 votes?  ;D Come on.

Nah, it was significant.
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Re: Dems Flipped Over Half of Orange County House Seats After Election Night
« Reply #19 on: November 28, 2018, 10:45:21 AM »
In this instance, they did not - their IDs didn't have an address, just a PO box for their reservation, and the state said those wouldn't be acceptable.   I read multiple articles on it, because we have to look at each instance of this for what it is - can't just be completely partisan on everything like Strawman.
Bullshit, those people had plenty of time to get ID's.  Do they have driver's licenses or state ID's?  How many people on reservations don't have ID?  Natives get all kind's of assistance from the government and you have to have ID to qualify or cash any government check.

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Re: Dems Flipped Over Half of Orange County House Seats After Election Night
« Reply #20 on: November 28, 2018, 11:31:20 AM »
Bullshit, those people had plenty of time to get ID's.  Do they have driver's licenses or state ID's?  How many people on reservations don't have ID?  Natives get all kind's of assistance from the government and you have to have ID to qualify or cash any government check.

Read a fucking article already.

You were already wrong on your first point about the ID itself, now you're doubling down.

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As I said, there were avenues to get there, but it was difficult and with time constraints.
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Re: Dems Flipped Over Half of Orange County House Seats After Election Night
« Reply #21 on: November 28, 2018, 11:35:12 AM »
Read a fucking article already.

You were already wrong on your first point about the ID itself, now you're doubling down.

As I said, there were avenues to get there, but it was difficult and with time constraints.

I'll triple down, it's bullshit!

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Re: Dems Flipped Over Half of Orange County House Seats After Election Night
« Reply #22 on: November 28, 2018, 01:56:18 PM »
Read a fucking article already.

You were already wrong on your first point about the ID itself, now you're doubling down.

As I said, there were avenues to get there, but it was difficult and with time constraints.


LOL

welcome to the reality of dealing with a Trumptard (and most of the right wing posters on this board)

Hargument is the same argument right wingers have about voter fraud.  In spite of the fact that it doesn't exist (other than a handful of instances which are statistically insignificant) the right wing of this country still believes it not only exists but it exists in such a large amount that it effects the outcomes of elections.  It's called belief in the absence of proof or belief in spite of proof to the contrary. 

It's no different than Trumptard refusing to believe the result of the recent climate report issued by our government.

He doesn't like results and the results are contrary to his beliefs so he just chooses to not believe it


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Re: Dems Flipped Over Half of Orange County House Seats After Election Night
« Reply #23 on: November 28, 2018, 02:33:25 PM »
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Re: Dems Flipped Over Half of Orange County House Seats After Election Night
« Reply #24 on: November 28, 2018, 03:44:30 PM »
LOL

welcome to the reality of dealing with a Trumptard (and most of the right wing posters on this board)

Hargument is the same argument right wingers have about voter fraud.  In spite of the fact that it doesn't exist (other than a handful of instances which are statistically insignificant) the right wing of this country still believes it not only exists but it exists in such a large amount that it effects the outcomes of elections.  It's called belief in the absence of proof or belief in spite of proof to the contrary. 

It's no different than Trumptard refusing to believe the result of the recent climate report issued by our government.

He doesn't like results and the results are contrary to his beliefs so he just chooses to not believe it


And yet you libtards freak out about voter ID.  Your climate change is a fraud as well.  Just another way for the gov to take more control of private business.  In the 70's it was global cooling, then poisoned oceans, then acid rain, then global warming and now climate change.  France citizens are now protesting the skyrocketing cost of fuel because their idiot president agreed to the stupid climate accord deal.  Thank God we have Trump to ax the bullshit Obama started.