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Title: Worried about my recent bloodwork.
Post by: NickEdge779 on December 04, 2018, 11:42:39 AM
I’m on 500mg test enanthate only. I was pleasantly surprised by my total test levels so high being only on 2ml a week, but not gonna complain. The reason my progesterone is high is because I just came off 250mg/week of deca about 3 weeks ago. But I’m worried about my DHEA sulfate levels. I’ve never had it that high before. Yes it’s been high before, but never >1000. Any thoughts?

https://imgur.com/a/mLSjiHC
Title: Re: Worried about my recent bloodwork.
Post by: Fortress on December 04, 2018, 12:54:15 PM
Sadly, you won’t last the night.
Title: Re: Worried about my recent bloodwork.
Post by: pellius on December 04, 2018, 01:19:54 PM
I’m on 500mg test enanthate only. I was pleasantly surprised by my free test levels so high being only on 2ml a week, but not gonna complain. The reason my progesterone is high is because I just came off 250mg/week of deca about 3 weeks ago. But I’m worried about my DHEA sulfate levels. I’ve never had it that high before. Yes it’s been high before, but never >1000. Any thoughts?

https://imgur.com/a/mLSjiHC

Too bad it doesn't say how high your free Test is. It just says >50.

I never saw the DHEA broken up into two catagories before, sulfate and serum. My blood test just shows up reading "DHEA" no mention of sulfate/serum but I assume serum.

Your estro is pretty high as well as progesterone. Are you able to go on some adex/aromasin for the estro and some Bromocriptine for the prolactin/progesterone?

BTW, is that Test you are using coming from a doctor (pharm grade) or UG? For 500mg/wk those are very low levels. I hover over a 1,000 just on 200mg/wk so I am down to 150mg/wk and stay at around 775. With 500mg I'd expect to be well over 2,000.
Title: Re: Worried about my recent bloodwork.
Post by: Powerlift66 on December 04, 2018, 01:56:33 PM
Does that say 12K Test levels??? Or 1200???
Title: Re: Worried about my recent bloodwork.
Post by: Mr Anabolic on December 04, 2018, 01:56:52 PM
You cycling or always on?
Title: Re: Worried about my recent bloodwork.
Post by: IroNat on December 04, 2018, 03:15:16 PM
You're fooling with Mother Nature and messing with your body's processes.

Why are you surprised?

Get off the gear before you are permanently fracked.
Title: Re: Worried about my recent bloodwork.
Post by: Coffeed on December 04, 2018, 03:21:15 PM
Wouldn't you be asking the medically trained physician that prescribed these drugs to you?
Title: Re: Worried about my recent bloodwork.
Post by: SF1900 on December 04, 2018, 03:30:39 PM
Don’t worry about it. It’s just a genetic abnormality.
Title: Re: Worried about my recent bloodwork.
Post by: NickEdge779 on December 04, 2018, 04:29:21 PM
Too bad it doesn't say how high your free Test is. It just says >50.

I never saw the DHEA broken up into two catagories before, sulfate and serum. My blood test just shows up reading "DHEA" no mention of sulfate/serum but I assume serum.

Your estro is pretty high as well as progesterone. Are you able to go on some adex/aromasin for the estro and some Bromocriptine for the prolactin/progesterone?

BTW, is that Test you are using coming from a doctor (pharm grade) or UG? For 500mg/wk those are very low levels. I hover over a 1,000 just on 200mg/wk so I am down to 150mg/wk and stay at around 775. With 500mg I'd expect to be well over 2,000.

Sorry I meant to type total test instead of free test. But My total test is 12,000, not 1,200 FYI. And yes I’m on arimidex but I’m extremely sensitive to it, I either have low estradiol or high estradiol and it’s hard to get a good dose. .5mg
EOD dosage and I go low, and .5mg e3d and I go high.
Title: Re: Worried about my recent bloodwork.
Post by: NickEdge779 on December 04, 2018, 04:31:57 PM
You cycling or always on?

I’m always on TRT dosage of 200-250mg a week but sometimes I go to 500mg a week for a cycle when I add deca or tren or EQ for a “blast”. I ran deca for 16 weeks and just came off it, I’m staying on 500mg a week of test until January 1st and then going back to 250
Title: Re: Worried about my recent bloodwork.
Post by: Mr Anabolic on December 04, 2018, 04:35:14 PM
I’m always on TRT dosage of 200-250mg a week but sometimes I go to 500mg a week for a cycle when I add deca or tren or EQ for a “blast”. I ran deca for 16 weeks and just came off it, I’m staying on 500mg a week of test until January 1st and then going back to 250

How old?  Is your TRT doc aware of all this?
Title: Re: Worried about my recent bloodwork.
Post by: NickEdge779 on December 04, 2018, 04:39:54 PM
How old?  Is your TRT doc aware of all this?

I don’t see a TRT doctor and I do my own bloodwork before I consult my primary physician because I don’t want to be labeled as a drug user and lose my health insurance coverage, and I’m late 20s
Title: Re: Worried about my recent bloodwork.
Post by: Mr Anabolic on December 04, 2018, 04:43:41 PM
I don’t see a TRT doctor and I do my own bloodwork before I consult my primary physician because I don’t want to be labeled as a drug user and lose my health insurance coverage, and I’m late 20s

Gotcha.

Sorry about all the questions Nick, but why are you on TRT in your late 20's?  I was at my natural peak when I was in my late 20's.
Title: Re: Worried about my recent bloodwork.
Post by: NickEdge779 on December 04, 2018, 04:53:45 PM
Gotcha.

Sorry about all the questions Nick, but why are you on TRT in your late 20's?  I was at my natural peak when I was in my late 20's.

No worries man, I had a testosterone level of about 120 ng/dL when I was 21 because I reported low libido and my doctor didn’t want to treat me because of my age, she gave me some clomid to see if it would help, didn’t do anything, and then I switched doctors because I moved and never really brought up the issue again to my new doctor and I decided to self medicate since I was into bodybuilding anyways and was going to go down that route eventually. I want to see a real TRT doctor tbh. I don’t feel safe using UGL products
Title: Re: Worried about my recent bloodwork.
Post by: Irongrip400 on December 04, 2018, 05:53:26 PM
No worries man, I had a testosterone level of about 120 ng/dL when I was 21 because I reported low libido and my doctor didn’t want to treat me because of my age, she gave me some clomid to see if it would help, didn’t do anything, and then I switched doctors because I moved and never really brought up the issue again to my new doctor and I decided to self medicate since I was into bodybuilding anyways and was going to go down that route eventually. I want to see a real TRT doctor tbh. I don’t feel safe using UGL products

Go to a men’s clinic. It’s expensive but it’s legal and they do all the testing. My PCP was giving me 100mg weekly with no anastrozole or in depth bloodwork.
Title: Re: Worried about my recent bloodwork.
Post by: WalterWhite on December 04, 2018, 09:04:41 PM
Go to a men’s clinic. It’s expensive but it’s legal and they do all the testing. My PCP was giving me 100mg weekly with no anastrozole or in depth bloodwork.

You shouldn't need adex on 100mg and you can just ask for the bloodwork. I think the easiest way to go is PCP if you're just going to do true trt. 

If he diagnoses you with hypogonadism the extensive bloodwork and testosterone is covered by most insurance companies.  Be your own advocate.

Title: Re: Worried about my recent bloodwork.
Post by: pellius on December 04, 2018, 09:31:34 PM
Sorry I meant to type total test instead of free test. But My total test is 12,000, not 1,200 FYI. And yes I’m on arimidex but I’m extremely sensitive to it, I either have low estradiol or high estradiol and it’s hard to get a good dose. .5mg
EOD dosage and I go low, and .5mg e3d and I go high.


Wow! 12,000 on 500mg/wk! Who's your source? That's some overdosed gear.
Title: Re: Worried about my recent bloodwork.
Post by: Bevo on December 05, 2018, 12:04:53 AM
You're fooling with Mother Nature and messing with your body's processes.

Why are you surprised?

Get off the gear before you are permanently fracked.

No, he should continue on, should up the dosages considerably too



Title: Re: Worried about my recent bloodwork.
Post by: AbrahamG on December 05, 2018, 12:09:46 AM
Wow! 12,000 on 500mg/wk! Who's your source? That's some overdosed gear.

I know there are individual variances, but there is no fucking way that 500mg's yields 12,000.  Just not possible.
Title: Re: Worried about my recent bloodwork.
Post by: willl on December 05, 2018, 12:20:51 AM
12000ng/dl on 500mg/wk is to be considered within normality

one could ask how long after the last injection the test was done but it is irrelevant because the dose is too high and the basal frequency too short

it's very simple: address the sides with more drugs or lower the dose to level the sides without having to use more drugs

250mg/wk ain't no TRT either

you have to understand, true TRT is only for supplementing the endocrine capacities



now a reflective question for VanB: (considering the total sum of related aspects) do u think it's better to

- stay on a low or mild AAS for longer time or
- get an extreme but shorter cycle

 awaiting the thoughts

Title: Re: Worried about my recent bloodwork.
Post by: Primemuscle on December 05, 2018, 12:44:26 AM
I’m on 500mg test enanthate only. I was pleasantly surprised by my total test levels so high being only on 2ml a week, but not gonna complain. The reason my progesterone is high is because I just came off 250mg/week of deca about 3 weeks ago. But I’m worried about my DHEA sulfate levels. I’ve never had it that high before. Yes it’s been high before, but never >1000. Any thoughts?

https://imgur.com/a/mLSjiHC

Your test levels are high. Not as high as I would think considering your dosage. Mine tested at over 1,000 on 200 mg test cypionate a week and with no other anabolic steroids in use. What is more, I abstained for a week in order to bring it down for the lab tests, which my doctor uses to adjust the dosage.
Title: Re: Worried about my recent bloodwork.
Post by: NickEdge779 on December 05, 2018, 07:21:50 AM
I know there are individual variances, but there is no fucking way that 500mg's yields 12,000.  Just not possible.

It is possible because that’s what I’m theoretically taking. Maybe my gear is overdosed but I can assure you I only take 2ml’s a week. But my main concern hasn’t really been addressed, I don’t really care that my test level is high, I’m concerned with my DHEA sulfate levels, I’m reading it could be a sign of adrenal cancer or tumor, but all of the literature I’ve read doesn’t really talk about exogenous testosterone usage and if that could cause a high DHEA level
Title: Re: Worried about my recent bloodwork.
Post by: Powerlift66 on December 05, 2018, 07:42:17 AM
12K is retarded... Get it in "high normal" youll be better off...
Title: Re: Worried about my recent bloodwork.
Post by: willl on December 05, 2018, 09:58:09 AM
But my main concern hasn’t really been addressed, I don’t really care that my test level is high, I’m concerned with my DHEA sulfate levels, I’m reading it could be a sign of adrenal cancer or tumor, but all of the literature I’ve read doesn’t really talk about exogenous testosterone usage and if that could cause a high DHEA level

perhaps you are unwilling or unable to read comprehensively then

first look at your past base levels for reference
i'm suspecting you don't have any

then quit the exogenous T for two months

re blood test all values

if persisting, consult with further diagnose

there's nothing more to it except persevering in stupidity
Title: Re: Worried about my recent bloodwork.
Post by: IroNat on December 05, 2018, 10:03:19 AM
I'm over 60 now and my testosterone levels are similar to a baby hamster.
Works well if you like being a chunky old fuk on his 8th failed marriage.

Hope this helps.


Eat more eggs.

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Title: Re: Worried about my recent bloodwork.
Post by: Primemuscle on December 06, 2018, 01:10:39 PM
I'm over 60 now and my testosterone levels are similar to a baby hamster.
Works well if you like being a chunky old fuk on his 8th failed marriage.

Hope this helps.


Really...like a baby hamster? That's funny. Some medical professionals are saying that HRT helps keep us guys healthy. You might want to look into it with an endocrinologist. A small dosage of testosterone cypionate might be good for you. I'm currently injecting 0.05 ml. with no bad side effects.

Is your marriage failing? I somehow thought this was the one that would stick.
Title: Re: Worried about my recent bloodwork.
Post by: AbrahamG on December 06, 2018, 03:41:29 PM
Really...like a baby hamster? That's funny. Some medical professionals are saying that HRT helps keep us guys healthy. You might want to look into it with an endocrinologist. A small dosage of testosterone cypionate might be good for you. I'm currently injecting 0.05 ml. with no bad side effects.

Is your marriage failing? I somehow thought this was the one that would stick.

Is that accurate?
Title: Re: Worried about my recent bloodwork.
Post by: Primemuscle on December 07, 2018, 11:18:27 AM
Is that accurate?

Sorry, it's 0.5 ML & 0.75 ML

The reason for the variance is that the doctor and I agreed on 0.75 ML and he mistakenly wrote it for 0.5 ML. I caught it and this was his compromise (he plays games with the prescription every time he writes it). It's very annoying. If he'd write it for 1 ML like I've been using for years, the pharmacy would fill it with a 10 ML vial. Because of the cutback, they filled it with 1 Ml vials which is going to be a pain. Insurance won't pay for more than 12 weeks at each fill. Luckily I have a couple of 10 ML vials left from when he made a mistake and wrote it for a monthly refill.

My hematocrit is at the top of the normal range, which is up a couple of points from the previous year. This is why the doctor adjusted my prescription downward. Apparently, when your hematocrit is too high, it puts you at greater risk of a stroke.