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Title: Giving advice to newbies....or not?
Post by: Dr Dutch on December 16, 2018, 07:44:56 AM
For about 6 months now I have been training at a gym with a lot of college students.
I see them pencilnecks performing endles sets on the leg extension, pushdown, pec deck you name it.
They look with both awe and disgust at me doing 400+ lbs deadlifts.....

Should I (should we?) instruct them that if they wanna getbig they got to do the powerlift movements first?
Or should we just let them figure it out themselves?

Question: do you correct bad choice of exercise/bad form ?

Asks Dr Dutch
Title: Re: Giving advice to newbies....or not?
Post by: chaos on December 16, 2018, 07:47:32 AM
For about 6 months now I have been training at a gym with a lot of college students.
I see them pencilnecks performing endles sets on the leg extension, pushdown, pec deck you name it.
They look with both awe and disgust at me doing 400+ lbs deadlifts.....

Should I (should we?) instruct them that if they wanna getbig they got to do the powerlift movements first?
Or should we just let them figure it out themselves?

Question: do you correct bad choice of exercise/bad form ?

Asks Dr Dutch
Calling bullshit on you deadlifting 400+lbs.
Title: Re: Giving advice to newbies....or not?
Post by: oldtimer1 on December 16, 2018, 07:50:57 AM
No, it's obnoxious to give advice in a gym.
Title: Re: Giving advice to newbies....or not?
Post by: Mr Anabolic on December 16, 2018, 08:02:53 AM
Unless they ask me, I usually ignore them.
Title: Re: Giving advice to newbies....or not?
Post by: TheShape. on December 16, 2018, 10:53:00 AM
I always give them the bad advices
Title: Re: Giving advice to newbies....or not?
Post by: kh300 on December 16, 2018, 11:15:22 AM
NO
Title: Re: Giving advice to newbies....or not?
Post by: Twaddle on December 16, 2018, 11:24:59 AM
No, you mind your own fucking business.   >:(
Title: Re: Giving advice to newbies....or not?
Post by: Mr Anabolic on December 16, 2018, 11:28:20 AM
I always give them the bad advices

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Hqniwefrec (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Hqniwefrec)

Title: Re: Giving advice to newbies....or not?
Post by: cephissus on December 16, 2018, 11:30:20 AM
try it out... some will be grateful, some wont
Title: Re: Giving advice to newbies....or not?
Post by: IroNat on December 16, 2018, 11:35:42 AM
Only if they ask for advices.

Title: Re: Giving advice to newbies....or not?
Post by: Pray_4_War on December 16, 2018, 11:39:45 AM
No.
Title: Re: Giving advice to newbies....or not?
Post by: wes on December 16, 2018, 01:57:02 PM
They look at me like I`m crazy if I offer advice so I now let them keep spinning their wheels and add them to the ranks of gym idiots.
Title: Re: Giving advice to newbies....or not?
Post by: tres_taco_combo on December 16, 2018, 02:29:28 PM
no
Title: Re: Giving advice to newbies....or not?
Post by: kreator on December 16, 2018, 02:32:10 PM
Give advice if you‘re qualified to do so. And no, 15 years of gym membership does not make u qualified.
Title: Re: Giving advice to newbies....or not?
Post by: chaos on December 16, 2018, 08:56:38 PM
For about 6 months now I have been training at a gym with a lot of college students.
I see them pencilnecks performing endles sets on the leg extension, pushdown, pec deck you name it.
They look with both awe and disgust at me doing 400+ lbs deadlifts.....

Should I (should we?) instruct them that if they wanna getbig they got to do the powerlift movements first?
Or should we just let them figure it out themselves?

Question: do you correct bad choice of exercise/bad form ?

Asks Dr Dutch
No pics or vids of this fake ass 400+lb deadlift?
Title: Re: Giving advice to newbies....or not?
Post by: Coffeed on December 17, 2018, 01:22:50 AM
They are more interested in talking about pseudoscience and things Dr Oz might tweet about.
Title: Re: Giving advice to newbies....or not?
Post by: Dr Dutch on December 17, 2018, 10:38:20 AM
Calling bullshit on you deadlifting 400+lbs.
400 deadlift not such a big deal dude.....it's not the point I wanna make.
Title: Re: Giving advice to newbies....or not?
Post by: Dr Dutch on December 17, 2018, 10:39:37 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Hqniwefrec (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Hqniwefrec)


Haha Arnold rules. As always.
Title: Re: Giving advice to newbies....or not?
Post by: Dr Dutch on December 17, 2018, 10:41:45 AM
They look at me like I`m crazy if I offer advice so I now let them keep spinning their wheels and add them to the ranks of gym idiots.
Wes you are still alive ??  Must be pushing 110 by now... ;D

Best wishes from

Dr. Dutch
Title: Re: Giving advice to newbies....or not?
Post by: Dr Dutch on December 17, 2018, 10:44:45 AM
No pics or vids of this fake ass 400+lb deadlift?
C'mon dude like a 400 lbs deadlift is something special...it was just an example, but I indeed deadlift over 400.
Could have mentioned a 240 lbs bench or a 300 lbs squat. Not that terrific huh?
Title: Re: Giving advice to newbies....or not?
Post by: 2ND COMING on December 17, 2018, 10:45:25 AM
For about 6 months now I have been training at a gym with a lot of college students.
I see them pencilnecks performing endles sets on the leg extension, pushdown, pec deck you name it.
They look with both awe and disgust at me doing 400+ lbs deadlifts.....

Should I (should we?) instruct them that if they wanna getbig they got to do the powerlift movements first?
Or should we just let them figure it out themselves?

Question: do you correct bad choice of exercise/bad form ?

Asks Dr Dutch

Build a rapport with the twerps. Then get their moms number. Bang the mom.
Title: Re: Giving advice to newbies....or not?
Post by: Dr Dutch on December 17, 2018, 10:46:05 AM
Remember Ducth most getbiggers can barely lift the toilet seat when they sit down to piss.

UNLESS someone asks, just do your thing .

;D ;D
Title: Re: Giving advice to newbies....or not?
Post by: Dr Dutch on December 17, 2018, 10:50:56 AM
But seriously: if these 18-20 yr old dudes got some REAL good advise (not from their "personal trainers" who are a joke, at leat over here in Holland.) they could be put on the right track gaining some mass.
I keep silent, but the point is that I made their mistakes too, way back when.
Aren't we obliged to do someting????

Says Dr Dutch
Title: Re: Giving advice to newbies....or not?
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 17, 2018, 11:34:10 AM
For about 6 months now I have been training at a gym with a lot of college students.
I see them pencilnecks performing endles sets on the leg extension, pushdown, pec deck you name it.
They look with both awe and disgust at me doing 400+ lbs deadlifts.....

Should I (should we?) instruct them that if they wanna getbig they got to do the powerlift movements first?
Or should we just let them figure it out themselves?

Question: do you correct bad choice of exercise/bad form ?

Asks Dr Dutch

Depends on who it is. If I see a kid or a new trainee doing something wrong, I'll simply ask "do you mind If show you something?" the answer is usually "yes" if its no then its no. Nothing wrong with trying to help someone
Title: Re: Giving advice to newbies....or not?
Post by: Twaddle on December 17, 2018, 11:57:25 AM
Depends on who it is. If I see a kid or a new trainee doing something wrong, I'll simply ask "do you mind If show you something?" the answer is usually "yes" if its no then its no. Nothing wrong with trying to help someone

Do you mind if I show you something? 

Yes.

IE, yes I mind, fuck off.   :D
Title: Re: Giving advice to newbies....or not?
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 17, 2018, 12:02:24 PM
Do you mind if I show you something? 

Yes.

IE, yes I mind, fuck off.   :D

Hasn't happened yet
Title: Re: Giving advice to newbies....or not?
Post by: chaos on December 17, 2018, 12:08:17 PM
Remember Ducth most getbiggers can barely lift the toilet seat when they sit down to piss.

UNLESS someone asks, just do your thing .

You nor Dutch can do 400+lbs deads. Maybe together....unlikely though.
Title: Re: Giving advice to newbies....or not?
Post by: Deadpool on December 17, 2018, 12:49:38 PM
you pulling Medford on a perma bulk? :-X
Title: Re: Giving advice to newbies....or not?
Post by: Primemuscle on December 17, 2018, 01:32:48 PM
I only offer advice when asked.
Title: Re: Giving advice to newbies....or not?
Post by: Dr Dutch on December 18, 2018, 09:28:10 AM
I  was asked to help this  older guy doing some 400 lb dead lifts.
He told me to take a pic of him deadlifting .

I ignored him and took pics of this cute girl in yoga pants doing stiff legged deads.

I wonder if he ever got his pics posted? ;D
;D Howard you are funny again.
Title: Re: Giving advice to newbies....or not?
Post by: oldtimer1 on December 18, 2018, 10:24:39 AM
Give advice if you‘re qualified to do so. And no, 15 years of gym membership does not make u qualified.

What qualifies someone? Confused? A week internet personal trainer certificate?  The one I took covered anatomy and physiology at a 6th grade level. When I was in college it was a two semester 8 credit course with a lab. The week internet course test on the topic could have been passed with 5 minutes of study.  Personally I will listen to advice from a guy who has trained naturally for 30 to 40 years who is in shape over any 20 something with internet certificates. If someone is not in shape in their 20's and 30's they are lazy bastards with no work ethic. I also discount many times the advice of steroid users. Tell me what I have to do be in shape when you're clean for 6 months so I can see how their advice works for them. Most steroid users look like crap off the assist.
Title: Re: Giving advice to newbies....or not?
Post by: deadz on December 18, 2018, 10:26:45 AM
Fuck em. 99.9 won’t be in the gym after a month.
Title: Re: Giving advice to newbies....or not?
Post by: Darren Avey on December 18, 2018, 10:33:08 AM
One stupid millennial told me he wanted to be "a cageeeee fighter!"
I told the first thing he needs is tribal tattoos.
He only went and got them done!  :D
Title: Re: Giving advice to newbies....or not?
Post by: robcguns on December 18, 2018, 10:42:37 AM
I competed against this one big idiot that got kicked out of a great gym.
He'd see some older female on the leg press and act like he was stretching by the machine.
Then, in the middle of her set ,  turn his back, squat down and FART In HER FACE  :o

Obviously the woman complained to the gym manager.
Since she wasn't alone in her complaint, he got  booted out.

...and we wonder why bodybuilding isn't a mainstream sport. ;)


Hahahhaha that was pretty fucking funny.
Title: Re: Giving advice to newbies....or not?
Post by: robcguns on December 18, 2018, 10:43:51 AM
Most people are assholes and they deserve to hurt themselves in the gym so i say have at it.If you ask me for help i will help you but im not offering shit to this crap society.
Title: Re: Giving advice to newbies....or not?
Post by: loco on December 18, 2018, 10:50:57 AM
No, it's obnoxious to give advice in a gym.

No, you mind your own fucking business.   >:(

Unless they ask me, I usually ignore them.

Eggxactly!
Title: Re: Giving advice to newbies....or not?
Post by: wes on December 18, 2018, 11:34:03 AM
Wes you are still alive ??  Must be pushing 110 by now... ;D

Best wishes from

Dr. Dutch
Happy Holidays buddy!  :)
Title: Re: Giving advice to newbies....or not?
Post by: cephissus on December 18, 2018, 01:03:19 PM
But seriously: if these 18-20 yr old dudes got some REAL good advise (not from their "personal trainers" who are a joke, at leat over here in Holland.) they could be put on the right track gaining some mass.
I keep silent, but the point is that I made their mistakes too, way back when.
Aren't we obliged to do someting????

Says Dr Dutch

Yes, don't listen to the fucking idiots in this thread.

Depressing as shit, no wonder we're all into bodybuilding...
Title: Re: Giving advice to newbies....or not?
Post by: Primemuscle on December 18, 2018, 07:54:50 PM
I competed against this one big idiot that got kicked out of a great gym.
He'd see some older female on the leg press and act like he was stretching by the machine.
Then, in the middle of her set ,  turn his back, squat down and FART In HER FACE  :o

Obviously the woman complained to the gym manager.
Since she wasn't alone in her complaint, he got  booted out.

...and we wonder why bodybuilding isn't a mainstream sport. ;)


You and fart comments..... :)
Title: Re: Giving advice to newbies....or not?
Post by: Darren Avey on December 19, 2018, 10:17:54 AM
I competed against this one big idiot that got kicked out of a great gym.
He'd see some older female on the leg press and act like he was stretching by the machine.
Then, in the middle of her set ,  turn his back, squat down and FART In HER FACE  :o

Obviously the woman complained to the gym manager.
Since she wasn't alone in her complaint, he got  booted out.

...and we wonder why bodybuilding isn't a mainstream sport. ;)


Im amazed his face hasn't been smashed in with a wrench.
Title: Re: Giving advice to newbies....or not?
Post by: BB on December 19, 2018, 10:31:01 AM
Only when asked or if the person looks genuinely perplexed by something (like how to adjust a machine, etc...). Otherwise nope.
Title: Re: Giving advice to newbies....or not?
Post by: deadz on December 19, 2018, 10:34:42 AM
you pulling Medford on a perma bulk? :-X
Medford aka The Sloath. Lol
Title: Re: Giving advice to newbies....or not?
Post by: Primemuscle on December 19, 2018, 03:17:59 PM
Only when asked or if the person looks genuinely perplexed by something (like how to adjust a machine, etc...). Otherwise nope.

Come to think of it, there have been a few times I've helped someone out who appeared not to know how to adjust or use a machine.
Title: Re: Giving advice to newbies....or not?
Post by: cephissus on December 19, 2018, 03:27:13 PM
This selfish attitude is what landed most of us in the gym in the first place. The gym is like a purgatory for vanity.

"I'll just mind my own business, even if I see someone I could really help... unless they ask."

Imagine if someone had helped you when you were a kid. Maybe you wouldn't have fucked up so many times. Maybe you wouldn't feel so unaccomplished and weak. And, maybe, you wouldn't feel the need for a shiny muscle suit to drape over your inner worthlessness.
Title: Re: Giving advice to newbies....or not?
Post by: Primemuscle on December 19, 2018, 03:30:26 PM
This selfish attitude is what landed most of us in the gym in the first place. The gym is like a purgatory for vanity.

"I'll just mind my own business, even if I see someone I could really help... unless they ask."

Imagine if someone had helped you when you were a kid. Maybe you wouldn't have fucked up so many times. Maybe you wouldn't feel so unaccomplished and weak. And, maybe, you wouldn't feel the need for a shiny muscle suit to drape over your inner worthlessness.

Interesting way to put this.
Title: Re: Giving advice to newbies....or not?
Post by: Ropo on December 20, 2018, 05:19:06 AM
Give advice if you‘re qualified to do so. And no, 15 years of gym membership does not make u qualified.

15 years of experience isn't enough, but correspondence course of two weeks makes anybody a fully qualified Personal Trainer?  ;D
Title: Re: Giving advice to newbies....or not?
Post by: cephissus on December 20, 2018, 12:17:05 PM
Ok, let's do an experiment to test your idea?
Go ahead and make a video of you , offering to help people who didn't ask for it, at your gym.
I predict you'll get a warm reception, especially from attractive females in their 20's and similar age gym bros.
Might be a great idea to run up and spot the ladies from behind while doing squats.

Look fwd to a full report.

Hope this helps. ;)

between me and you there are two important differences: i look like i lift and im not 60.
Title: Re: Giving advice to newbies....or not?
Post by: Deadpool on January 05, 2019, 06:50:43 PM
Medford aka The Sloath. Lol

it's Sloth.  Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Giving advice to newbies....or not?
Post by: BILL ANVIL on January 06, 2019, 02:47:32 AM
Tell them all to eat cat food.
Title: Re: Giving advice to newbies....or not?
Post by: Deadpool on January 06, 2019, 10:58:53 AM
Tell them all to eat cat food.

how about just learn to eat a baby cat, a kitty, you know what I mean   ;)
Title: Re: Giving advice to newbies....or not?
Post by: BILL ANVIL on January 06, 2019, 03:12:15 PM
how about just learn to eat a baby cat, a kitty, you know what I mean   ;)


Pardon me ? 😕😕
Title: Re: Giving advice to newbies....or not?
Post by: Deadpool on January 17, 2019, 07:34:52 AM
Pardon me ? 😕😕

Eat the female  ::)
Title: Re: Giving advice to newbies....or not?
Post by: ilalin on January 17, 2019, 08:43:04 AM
But seriously: if these 18-20 yr old dudes got some REAL good advise (not from their "personal trainers" who are a joke, at leat over here in Holland.) they could be put on the right track gaining some mass.
I keep silent, but the point is that I made their mistakes too, way back when.
Aren't we obliged to do someting????

Says Dr Dutch

I would, because I care about this society and it's future
Title: Re: Giving advice to newbies....or not?
Post by: Dr Dutch on January 20, 2019, 10:08:08 AM
Yesterday I broke my rule of non-intervening.  :(
Correcting a college kid doing horrible mega-cheat BB curls.
He appreciated it..... 8)

 ;)
Title: Re: Giving advice to newbies....or not?
Post by: chaos on January 20, 2019, 11:20:47 AM
Yesterday I broke my rule of non-intervening.  :(
Correcting a college kid doing horrible mega-cheat BB curls.
He appreciated it..... 8)

 ;)
He'll be back next week doing them wrong again.
Title: Re: Giving advice to newbies....or not?
Post by: Dr Dutch on January 23, 2019, 12:15:46 PM
He did.