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DNA scientist James Watson stripped of honors over views on race
Erin Durkin in New York
A New York laboratory has cut its ties with James Watson, the Nobel prize-winning scientist who helped discover the structure of DNA, over “reprehensible” comments in which he said race and intelligence are connected.
Double helix trouble
The Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory said it was revoking all titles and honors conferred on Watson, 90, who led the lab for many years.
The lab “unequivocally rejects the unsubstantiated and reckless personal opinions Dr James D Watson expressed on the subject of ethnicity and genetics”, its president, Bruce Stillman, and chair of the board of trustees, Marilyn Simons, said in a statement.
“Dr Watson’s statements are reprehensible, unsupported by science, and in no way represent the views of CSHL, its trustees, faculty, staff, or students. The laboratory condemns the misuse of science to justify prejudice.”
With Francis Crick, Rosalind Franklin and Maurice Wilkins, the scientist was one of the researchers who discovered the double helix structure of DNA in 1953.
In 2007, the lab removed him as chancellor after he told the Sunday Times he was “inherently gloomy about the prospect of Africa” because “all our social policies are based on the fact that their intelligence is the same as ours, whereas all the testing says, not really”.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jan/13/james-watson-scientist-honors-stripped-reprehensible-race-comments (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jan/13/james-watson-scientist-honors-stripped-reprehensible-race-comments)
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DNA scientist James Watson stripped of honors over views on race
Erin Durkin in New York
A New York laboratory has cut its ties with James Watson, the Nobel prize-winning scientist who helped discover the structure of DNA, over “reprehensible” comments in which he said race and intelligence are connected.
Double helix trouble
The Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory said it was revoking all titles and honors conferred on Watson, 90, who led the lab for many years.
The lab “unequivocally rejects the unsubstantiated and reckless personal opinions Dr James D Watson expressed on the subject of ethnicity and genetics”, its president, Bruce Stillman, and chair of the board of trustees, Marilyn Simons, said in a statement.
“Dr Watson’s statements are reprehensible, unsupported by science, and in no way represent the views of CSHL, its trustees, faculty, staff, or students. The laboratory condemns the misuse of science to justify prejudice.”
With Francis Crick, Rosalind Franklin and Maurice Wilkins, the scientist was one of the researchers who discovered the double helix structure of DNA in 1953.
In 2007, the lab removed him as chancellor after he told the Sunday Times he was “inherently gloomy about the prospect of Africa” because “all our social policies are based on the fact that their intelligence is the same as ours, whereas all the testing says, not really”.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jan/13/james-watson-scientist-honors-stripped-reprehensible-race-comments (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jan/13/james-watson-scientist-honors-stripped-reprehensible-race-comments)
They tried to silence Galileo too - back in 1633. The more things change, the more they stay the same.
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In 2019, truth and fact is not wanted.
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So DNA is racist now?
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So the guy is obviously a genius and for him saying what he believes he gets fucked?Why is the truth so hard to handle nowadays?People should not get jobs based on color it should be merit and if you don’t like it then fuck off.
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The problem is this Doctor has a theory that needs to go through the scientific process and it can be verified or debunked by because his idea is politically incorrect hes vilified.
Strange times we live in
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The problem is this Doctor has a theory that needs to go through the scientific process and it can be verified or debunked by because his idea is politically incorrect hes vilified.
Strange times we live in
This theory can't be put through the scientific process. If anyone tries to do that they'll be vilified. This is a no go zone for scientific research as is the racial evolution of man, which is just the evolution of man by geographic area. It's man's history and it's completely off limits.
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The problem is this Doctor has a theory that needs to go through the scientific process and it can be verified or debunked by because his idea is politically incorrect hes vilified.
Strange times we live in
Life is an IQ Test
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This theory can't be put through the scientific process. If anyone tries to do that they'll be vilified. This is a no go zone for scientific research as is the racial evolution of man, which is just the evolution of man by geographic area. It's man's history and it's completely off limits.
I understand. We cant "create or verify" data that would suggest a race is intellectually inferior. There are many ramifications to this and of theres no proof it's true we can label those who suggest otherwise as bigots.
My issue is that they discredit everything the Doctor did as if that's a legitimate response to his comments.
What if he said less educated areas are worse off than highly educated areas? No one would oppose that line of thinking, the data can be extrapolated so it isnt race based.
The Doctor shouldn't have said race was a factor for intelligence (or whatever he said) but i'm sure at his age he doesn't care anymore.
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DNA scientist James Watson stripped of honors over views on race
Erin Durkin in New York
A New York laboratory has cut its ties with James Watson, the Nobel prize-winning scientist who helped discover the structure of DNA, over “reprehensible” comments in which he said race and intelligence are connected.
Double helix trouble
The Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory said it was revoking all titles and honors conferred on Watson, 90, who led the lab for many years.
The lab “unequivocally rejects the unsubstantiated and reckless personal opinions Dr James D Watson expressed on the subject of ethnicity and genetics”, its president, Bruce Stillman, and chair of the board of trustees, Marilyn Simons, said in a statement.
“Dr Watson’s statements are reprehensible, unsupported by science, and in no way represent the views of CSHL, its trustees, faculty, staff, or students. The laboratory condemns the misuse of science to justify prejudice.”
With Francis Crick, Rosalind Franklin and Maurice Wilkins, the scientist was one of the researchers who discovered the double helix structure of DNA in 1953.
In 2007, the lab removed him as chancellor after he told the Sunday Times he was “inherently gloomy about the prospect of Africa” because “all our social policies are based on the fact that their intelligence is the same as ours, whereas all the testing says, not really”.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jan/13/james-watson-scientist-honors-stripped-reprehensible-race-comments (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jan/13/james-watson-scientist-honors-stripped-reprehensible-race-comments)
With A Title Comes Great Responsibility
He knows what has and hasn't been debunked in General Genetics 200, let alone anything upper level. It's so easy to regurgitate the same bullshit every couple of years to the next generation.
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James WatsonA pioneering biologist is reprimanded for unscientific, offensive views
The Economist
In a documentary aired recently on the Public Broadcasting Service (PBS) in the United States, “American Masters: Decoding Watson”, Dr Watson re-stated his view that black people are less intelligent than white, because of their genetics. Scientists everywhere condemned his comments. Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory on Long Island, New York, to which he has been affiliated for more than 60 years, immediately stripped him of his remaining links, including his honorary title of Chancellor Emeritus. Dr Watson’s comments, they said, were “reprehensible, unsupported by science...the laboratory condemns the misuse of science to justify prejudice.”
The defenestration has been a long time coming. Dr Watson had already been forced to leave active duty at Cold Spring Harbor after he told a British newspaper in 2007 that he was “inherently gloomy about the prospect of Africa [because] all our social policies are based on the fact that their intelligence is the same as ours, whereas all the testing says, not really.” Although he wished everyone were equal, he said, “people who have to deal with black employees find this not true.” Though Dr Watson apologised for his comments at the time, his reputation suffered a big shock.
In the recent PBS film Dr Watson was asked if his views on links between race and intelligence had changed since 2007. “No, not at all,” he said, in an apparent reversal of his earlier apology. “I would like for them to have changed, that there be new knowledge that says that your nurture is much more important than nature. But I haven’t seen any knowledge. And there’s a difference on the average between blacks and whites on IQ tests. I would say the difference is, it’s genetic.’’ He adds that he takes no pleasure in “the difference between blacks and whites” and wishes it didn’t exist.
https://www.economist.com/science-and-technology/2019/01/19/a-pioneering-biologist-is-reprimanded-for-unscientific-offensive-views (https://www.economist.com/science-and-technology/2019/01/19/a-pioneering-biologist-is-reprimanded-for-unscientific-offensive-views)
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No one denies genetic differences when it comes to athletic performance but all people are created exactly the same in intelligence. ::)
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Sound like common sense what he stated. The agressive and repressive reaction to his remarks just proves that he's right....covering up will not solve the problem or change the facts
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Facts don't give a fuck about feelings!!!! FCUK this liberal shithole world!!! Humanity is doomed!!!
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Facts don't give a fuck about feelings!!!! FCUK this liberal shithole world!!! Humanity is doomed!!!
;D
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The truth is racist.
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"Science" is now seen through a pc political filter. It cannot be trusted along with all of the nutritional "studies" being financed by food and drug companies.
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No one denies genetic differences when it comes to athletic performance but all people are created exactly the same in intelligence. ::)
Well,no one batted an eyelid, when he said that diseases which have their source in the brain-depression or schizophrenia- may have a strong genetic component.
Watson's son suffers from schizophrenia and is unable to look after himself. Watson has gone on record as saying that had genetic screening for schizophrenia existed he would have aborted him.
And he has publicly revealed that he wishes a genetic test had been available which would have shown that his son Rufus would turn out to have schizophrenia. "I think I would be a monster to want someone to suffer the way he has... so, yes, I would have aborted him," he once said. Genetic screening, he says, would also inspire greater compassion for the underdog.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/profiles/james-watson-genetic-disorder-395100.html (https://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/profiles/james-watson-genetic-disorder-395100.html)
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The problem is this Doctor has a theory that needs to go through the scientific process and it can be verified or debunked by because his idea is politically incorrect hes vilified.
Strange times we live in
You mean a hypothesis ;)
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I remember the controversy the book "The Bell Curve" by Charles Murray caused.
There are differences, some subtle, some not, that are inherent in all races. To think that it applies to everything except cognitive function and IQ doesn't comport with common sense.
Why did the ancient Greeks figure out the circumference of the planet and making scientific discoveries, philosophical theories, tools, art, that great library in Alexandria... at a time when the majority of the rest of the world were throwing rocks at each other?
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Life is an IQ Test
Yes it is, and outcomes vary greatly, so what does that say? Again leftists are asking us to deny the truth that is clear and obvious right before our eyes.
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Not sure if it will play in all regions, but you can view the documentary here -
http://www.pbs.org/americanmasters/american-masters-decoding-watson-full-film/10923/ .
The whole thing is pretty good, but the controversial part starts at around 63 (1:03) minutes in, and he doubles down on it around 75 (1:15) minutes in. Interesting fellow, I respect that he doesn't back step for the sake of making people feel good.
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You mean a hypothesis ;)
Lol yes I do.
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OK. 1:15:00 mark(75 minutes in) is the new stuff. The interviewer asks Watson if he's changed his views on the genetic basis for the apparent intellectual inferiority of blacks.
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Not sure if it will play in all regions, but you can view the documentary here -
http://www.pbs.org/americanmasters/american-masters-decoding-watson-full-film/10923/ .
The whole thing is pretty good, but the controversial part starts at around 63 (1:03) minutes in, and he doubles down on it around 75 (1:15) minutes in. Interesting fellow, I respect that he doesn't back step for the sake of making people feel good.
A black science man at the end says that race is a social construct. lol.
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Black Science Guy says:
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No one denies genetic differences when it comes to athletic performance but all people are created exactly the same in intelligence. ::)
I've never understood that. Nearly all people (snowflakes included) would agree that Blacks are better at Basketball than whites, and no one would get offended by it. But if you asked the very same people if whites are better students than blacks, they would either disagree (even though scientific evidence supports otherwise) or simply not want to answer the question... buy why?
I would agree with all of these truths, even when it isn't my own race that comes out on top. Are whites better at math than blacks... yes... are asians better at math than whites, YES! Why does shit like this bother people lol
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don't worry everyone gets a trophy ::)
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So DNA is racist now?
Anything that doesn't fit the political correctness culture is racist.
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I've never understood that. Nearly all people (snowflakes included) would agree that Blacks are better at Basketball than whites, and no one would get offended by it. But if you asked the very same people if whites are better students than blacks, they would either disagree (even though scientific evidence supports otherwise) or simply not want to answer the question... buy why?
I would agree with all of these truths, even when it isn't my own race that comes out on top. Are whites better at math than blacks... yes... are asians better at math than whites, YES! Why does shit like this bother people lol
I go at these lib sjw's on Quora everyday and have been suspended several times over this kind of stuff. Young "woke" people right out of college that think they have genius IQ's arguing that race is just a construct and everyone is exactly the same. ::)
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OK. 1:15:00 mark(75 minutes in) is the new stuff. The interviewer asks Watson if he's changed his views on the genetic basis for the apparent intellectual inferiority of blacks.
This explains why every country in Africa run by blacks is the way it is and why the uncolonised ones ended up a total wreck as well. Their average IQ is 70, what else could be expected?
Also why crime, violence and rape is so high wherever their population groups are around the world, despite access to first world education and opportunities compared to the rest of the world. Rioting, protesting, looting etc, the same behaviour everywhere.
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OK. 1:15:00 mark(75 minutes in) is the new stuff. The interviewer asks Watson if he's changed his views on the genetic basis for the apparent intellectual inferiority of blacks.
LOL at the hebreic fella at 1:15:53 saying Race is a social construct.
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I go at these lib sjw's on Quora everyday and have been suspended several times over this kind of stuff. Young "woke" people right out of college that think they have genius IQ's arguing that race is just a construct and everyone is exactly the same. ::)
LOL, dude, it's a lost cost! You could show them evidence of multiple studies showing that your comment is 100% accurate, and they would most likely still argue til they are blue in the face, or flag your comment HAHAH!
What I really can't stand is that the white man is being looked at as evil in the past few years, yet all it takes is a quick google search to prove that it's the black/hispanic men who are turning our country to shit and have been for decades.
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LOL at the hebreic fella at 1:15:53 saying Race is a social construct.
Which is of course absolutely impossible.
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Why is it disputed?
Democrats want power. They try and manipulate blacks and women a lot to vote for them. Because of lower intelligence. They don't want these people knowing that. They control the media. Do the maths.
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So there it is, science and DNA confirm that race and intelligence are connected.
This is why Africa has remained so poor and corrupt. The IQ levels of the black Africans are considerably lower than other races.
Liberia is a perfect example of an uncolonised African country, it's like hell on earth.
Wherever their numbers increase, standards will become closer to that of the typical collapsed and failed state in Africa or the Caribbean, like Haiti where they control the government.
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I've never understood that. Nearly all people (snowflakes included) would agree that Blacks are better at Basketball than whites, and no one would get offended by it. But if you asked the very same people if whites are better students than blacks, they would either disagree (even though scientific evidence supports otherwise) or simply not want to answer the question... buy why?
I would agree with all of these truths, even when it isn't my own race that comes out on top. Are whites better at math than blacks... yes... are asians better at math than whites, YES! Why does shit like this bother people lol
Truth hurts some people
and also dosent fit with their agenda.
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Why is it disputed?
Democrats want power. They try and manipulate blacks and women a lot to vote for them. Because of lower intelligence. They don't want these people knowing that. They control the media. Do the maths.
This x2
You’re very likey Correct.
They are a bunch of Evil & Traitorous Bastards.
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I've never understood that. Nearly all people (snowflakes included) would agree that Blacks are better at Basketball than whites, and no one would get offended by it. But if you asked the very same people if whites are better students than blacks, they would either disagree (even though scientific evidence supports otherwise) or simply not want to answer the question... buy why?
I would agree with all of these truths, even when it isn't my own race that comes out on top. Are whites better at math than blacks... yes... are asians better at math than whites, YES! Why does shit like this bother people lol
because most of us are a bunch of pussies unable to look in the mirror or listen to other people and bring about a somewhat objective conclusion
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I live < 10 minutes frm this place. Beautiful area, white as fuck (most of north shore is tbh). Went heavily for hillary in 2016.