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Dr James Watson Stripped of Titles For Statement On Race
« on: January 17, 2019, 08:09:24 AM »
DNA scientist James Watson stripped of honors over views on race

Erin Durkin in New York

A New York laboratory has cut its ties with James Watson, the Nobel prize-winning scientist who helped discover the structure of DNA, over “reprehensible” comments in which he said race and intelligence are connected.
Double helix trouble

The Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory said it was revoking all titles and honors conferred on Watson, 90, who led the lab for many years.

The lab “unequivocally rejects the unsubstantiated and reckless personal opinions Dr James D Watson expressed on the subject of ethnicity and genetics”, its president, Bruce Stillman, and chair of the board of trustees, Marilyn Simons, said in a statement.

“Dr Watson’s statements are reprehensible, unsupported by science, and in no way represent the views of CSHL, its trustees, faculty, staff, or students. The laboratory condemns the misuse of science to justify prejudice.”

With Francis Crick, Rosalind Franklin and Maurice Wilkins, the scientist was one of the researchers who discovered the double helix structure of DNA in 1953.

In 2007, the lab removed him as chancellor after he told the Sunday Times he was “inherently gloomy about the prospect of Africa” because “all our social policies are based on the fact that their intelligence is the same as ours, whereas all the testing says, not really”.


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jan/13/james-watson-scientist-honors-stripped-reprehensible-race-comments

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Re: Dr James Watson Stripped of Titles For Statement On Race
« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2019, 08:14:29 AM »
DNA scientist James Watson stripped of honors over views on race

Erin Durkin in New York

A New York laboratory has cut its ties with James Watson, the Nobel prize-winning scientist who helped discover the structure of DNA, over “reprehensible” comments in which he said race and intelligence are connected.
Double helix trouble

The Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory said it was revoking all titles and honors conferred on Watson, 90, who led the lab for many years.

The lab “unequivocally rejects the unsubstantiated and reckless personal opinions Dr James D Watson expressed on the subject of ethnicity and genetics”, its president, Bruce Stillman, and chair of the board of trustees, Marilyn Simons, said in a statement.

“Dr Watson’s statements are reprehensible, unsupported by science, and in no way represent the views of CSHL, its trustees, faculty, staff, or students. The laboratory condemns the misuse of science to justify prejudice.”

With Francis Crick, Rosalind Franklin and Maurice Wilkins, the scientist was one of the researchers who discovered the double helix structure of DNA in 1953.

In 2007, the lab removed him as chancellor after he told the Sunday Times he was “inherently gloomy about the prospect of Africa” because “all our social policies are based on the fact that their intelligence is the same as ours, whereas all the testing says, not really”.


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jan/13/james-watson-scientist-honors-stripped-reprehensible-race-comments

They tried to silence Galileo too - back in 1633. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

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Re: Dr James Watson Stripped of Titles For Statement On Race
« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2019, 08:14:59 AM »
In 2019, truth and fact is not wanted.

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Re: Dr James Watson Stripped of Titles For Statement On Race
« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2019, 09:14:12 AM »
So DNA is racist now?

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Re: Dr James Watson Stripped of Titles For Statement On Race
« Reply #4 on: January 17, 2019, 09:18:53 AM »
So the guy is obviously a genius and for him saying what he believes he gets fucked?Why is the truth so hard to handle nowadays?People should not get jobs based on color it should be merit and if you don’t like it then fuck off.

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Re: Dr James Watson Stripped of Titles For Statement On Race
« Reply #5 on: January 17, 2019, 09:35:59 AM »
The problem is this Doctor has a theory that needs to go through the scientific process and it can be verified or debunked by because his idea is politically incorrect hes vilified.


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Re: Dr James Watson Stripped of Titles For Statement On Race
« Reply #6 on: January 17, 2019, 09:40:19 AM »
The problem is this Doctor has a theory that needs to go through the scientific process and it can be verified or debunked by because his idea is politically incorrect hes vilified.


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This theory can't be put through the scientific process.  If anyone tries to do that they'll be vilified.  This is a no go zone for scientific research as is the racial evolution of man, which is just the evolution of man by geographic area.  It's man's history and it's completely off limits.








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Re: Dr James Watson Stripped of Titles For Statement On Race
« Reply #7 on: January 17, 2019, 09:51:01 AM »
The problem is this Doctor has a theory that needs to go through the scientific process and it can be verified or debunked by because his idea is politically incorrect hes vilified.


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Life is an IQ Test

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Re: Dr James Watson Stripped of Titles For Statement On Race
« Reply #8 on: January 17, 2019, 09:57:56 AM »
This theory can't be put through the scientific process.  If anyone tries to do that they'll be vilified.  This is a no go zone for scientific research as is the racial evolution of man, which is just the evolution of man by geographic area.  It's man's history and it's completely off limits.









I understand. We cant "create or verify" data that would suggest a race is intellectually inferior. There are many ramifications to this and of theres no proof it's true we can label those who suggest otherwise as bigots.

My issue is that they discredit everything the Doctor did as if that's a legitimate response to his comments.

What if he said less educated areas are worse off than highly educated areas? No one would oppose that line of thinking, the data can be extrapolated so it isnt race based.

The Doctor shouldn't have said race was a factor for intelligence (or whatever he said) but i'm sure at his age he doesn't care anymore.

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Re: Dr James Watson Stripped of Titles For Statement On Race
« Reply #9 on: January 17, 2019, 06:25:53 PM »
DNA scientist James Watson stripped of honors over views on race

Erin Durkin in New York

A New York laboratory has cut its ties with James Watson, the Nobel prize-winning scientist who helped discover the structure of DNA, over “reprehensible” comments in which he said race and intelligence are connected.
Double helix trouble

The Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory said it was revoking all titles and honors conferred on Watson, 90, who led the lab for many years.

The lab “unequivocally rejects the unsubstantiated and reckless personal opinions Dr James D Watson expressed on the subject of ethnicity and genetics”, its president, Bruce Stillman, and chair of the board of trustees, Marilyn Simons, said in a statement.

“Dr Watson’s statements are reprehensible, unsupported by science, and in no way represent the views of CSHL, its trustees, faculty, staff, or students. The laboratory condemns the misuse of science to justify prejudice.”

With Francis Crick, Rosalind Franklin and Maurice Wilkins, the scientist was one of the researchers who discovered the double helix structure of DNA in 1953.

In 2007, the lab removed him as chancellor after he told the Sunday Times he was “inherently gloomy about the prospect of Africa” because “all our social policies are based on the fact that their intelligence is the same as ours, whereas all the testing says, not really”.


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jan/13/james-watson-scientist-honors-stripped-reprehensible-race-comments



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He knows what has and hasn't been debunked in General Genetics 200, let alone anything upper level. It's so easy to regurgitate the same bullshit every couple of years to the next generation.

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Re: Dr James Watson Stripped of Titles For Statement On Race
« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2019, 10:02:54 AM »
James WatsonA pioneering biologist is reprimanded for unscientific, offensive views
The Economist

In a documentary aired recently on the Public Broadcasting Service (PBS) in the United States, “American Masters: Decoding Watson”, Dr Watson re-stated his view that black people are less intelligent than white, because of their genetics. Scientists everywhere condemned his comments. Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory on Long Island, New York, to which he has been affiliated for more than 60 years, immediately stripped him of his remaining links, including his honorary title of Chancellor Emeritus. Dr Watson’s comments, they said, were “reprehensible, unsupported by science...the laboratory condemns the misuse of science to justify prejudice.”

The defenestration has been a long time coming. Dr Watson had already been forced to leave active duty at Cold Spring Harbor after he told a British newspaper in 2007 that he was “inherently gloomy about the prospect of Africa [because] all our social policies are based on the fact that their intelligence is the same as ours, whereas all the testing says, not really.” Although he wished everyone were equal, he said, “people who have to deal with black employees find this not true.” Though Dr Watson apologised for his comments at the time, his reputation suffered a big shock.

In the recent PBS film Dr Watson was asked if his views on links between race and intelligence had changed since 2007. “No, not at all,” he said, in an apparent reversal of his earlier apology. “I would like for them to have changed, that there be new knowledge that says that your nurture is much more important than nature. But I haven’t seen any knowledge. And there’s a difference on the average between blacks and whites on IQ tests. I would say the difference is, it’s genetic.’’ He adds that he takes no pleasure in “the difference between blacks and whites” and wishes it didn’t exist.

https://www.economist.com/science-and-technology/2019/01/19/a-pioneering-biologist-is-reprimanded-for-unscientific-offensive-views

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Re: Dr James Watson Stripped of Titles For Statement On Race
« Reply #11 on: January 18, 2019, 10:29:17 AM »
No one denies genetic differences when it comes to athletic performance but all people are created exactly the same in intelligence. ::)

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Re: Dr James Watson Stripped of Titles For Statement On Race
« Reply #12 on: January 18, 2019, 12:38:49 PM »
Sound like common sense what he stated. The agressive and repressive reaction to his remarks just proves that he's right....covering up will not solve the problem or change the facts

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Re: Dr James Watson Stripped of Titles For Statement On Race
« Reply #13 on: January 18, 2019, 12:42:41 PM »
Facts don't give a fuck about feelings!!!! FCUK this liberal shithole world!!! Humanity is doomed!!!

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« Reply #14 on: January 18, 2019, 12:52:33 PM »
Facts don't give a fuck about feelings!!!! FCUK this liberal shithole world!!! Humanity is doomed!!!

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Re: Dr James Watson Stripped of Titles For Statement On Race
« Reply #15 on: January 18, 2019, 12:56:36 PM »
The truth is racist.

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Re: Dr James Watson Stripped of Titles For Statement On Race
« Reply #16 on: January 18, 2019, 01:26:30 PM »
"Science" is now seen through a pc political filter.  It cannot be trusted along with all of the nutritional "studies" being financed by food and drug companies.

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Re: Dr James Watson Stripped of Titles For Statement On Race
« Reply #17 on: January 18, 2019, 01:59:12 PM »
No one denies genetic differences when it comes to athletic performance but all people are created exactly the same in intelligence. ::)

Well,no one batted an eyelid, when he said that diseases which have their source in the brain-depression or schizophrenia- may have a strong genetic component.

Watson's son suffers from schizophrenia and is unable to look after himself. Watson has gone on record as saying that had genetic screening for schizophrenia existed he would have aborted him.

And he has publicly revealed that he wishes a genetic test had been available which would have shown that his son Rufus would turn out to have schizophrenia. "I think I would be a monster to want someone to suffer the way he has... so, yes, I would have aborted him," he once said. Genetic screening, he says, would also inspire greater compassion for the underdog.


https://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/profiles/james-watson-genetic-disorder-395100.html



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Re: Dr James Watson Stripped of Titles For Statement On Race
« Reply #18 on: January 18, 2019, 02:17:37 PM »
The problem is this Doctor has a theory that needs to go through the scientific process and it can be verified or debunked by because his idea is politically incorrect hes vilified.


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You mean a hypothesis  ;)
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Re: Dr James Watson Stripped of Titles For Statement On Race
« Reply #19 on: January 19, 2019, 02:35:22 AM »
I remember the controversy the book "The Bell Curve" by Charles Murray caused.

There are differences, some subtle, some not, that are inherent in all races. To think that it applies to everything except cognitive function and IQ doesn't comport with common sense.

Why did the ancient Greeks figure out the circumference of the planet and making scientific discoveries, philosophical theories, tools, art, that great library in Alexandria... at a time when the majority of the rest of the world were throwing rocks at each other?

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Re: Dr James Watson Stripped of Titles For Statement On Race
« Reply #20 on: January 19, 2019, 02:57:19 AM »
Life is an IQ Test

Yes it is, and outcomes vary greatly, so what does that say?  Again leftists are asking us to deny the truth that is clear and obvious right before our eyes. 

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« Reply #21 on: January 19, 2019, 05:14:45 AM »
Not sure if it will play in all regions, but you can view the documentary here -

http://www.pbs.org/americanmasters/american-masters-decoding-watson-full-film/10923/ .

The whole thing is pretty good, but the controversial part starts at around 63 (1:03) minutes in, and he doubles down on it around 75 (1:15) minutes in. Interesting fellow, I respect that he doesn't back step for the sake of making people feel good.   

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Re: Dr James Watson Stripped of Titles For Statement On Race
« Reply #22 on: January 19, 2019, 05:58:30 AM »
You mean a hypothesis  ;)

Lol yes I do.

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Re: Dr James Watson Stripped of Titles For Statement On Race
« Reply #23 on: January 19, 2019, 06:03:39 AM »
OK. 1:15:00 mark(75 minutes in) is the new stuff. The interviewer asks Watson if he's changed his views on the genetic basis for the apparent intellectual inferiority of blacks.



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Re: Dr James Watson Stripped of Titles For Statement On Race
« Reply #24 on: January 19, 2019, 06:18:33 AM »
Not sure if it will play in all regions, but you can view the documentary here -

http://www.pbs.org/americanmasters/american-masters-decoding-watson-full-film/10923/ .

The whole thing is pretty good, but the controversial part starts at around 63 (1:03) minutes in, and he doubles down on it around 75 (1:15) minutes in. Interesting fellow, I respect that he doesn't back step for the sake of making people feel good.   

A black science man at the end says that race is a social construct.  lol.