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been reading about this online and i'm reading that polls show most americans blame president for current shutdown which apparently goes against the trend for previous shutdowns.
apparently in one poll even trump voters blamed trump for the shutdown...
what is the truth on this?
Here are the recent survey results:
A Quinnipiac University poll taken Jan. 9-13 found that 56 percent of Americans blame Trump and Republicans for the shutdown, while 36 percent fault Democrats.
A Washington Post/ABC poll taken Jan. 8-11 found that 53 percent say Trump and congressional Republicans are to blame, while 29 percent point the finger at Democrats.
A CNN poll taken Jan. 10-11 showed that 55 percent blame Trump and Republicans, while 32 percent blame Democrats.
A CBS/YouGov survey taken Jan. 9-11 said 47 percent blame Trump, 3 percent blame Republicans, and 30 percent blame Democrats.
A Reuters/Ipsos poll taken January 1-7 found that 51 percent blame Trump, 7 percent blame Republicans and 32 percent fault Democrats.
A Politico/Morning Consult poll from Jan. 4-6 found that 47 percent blame Trump, 5 percent blame Republicans and 33 percent blame Democrats.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-01-14/trump-took-responsibility-for-shutdown-and-voters-give-it-to-him
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is the world ever going to see this much vaunted magnificent wall?
i'm hearing trump has been talking about downgrading it to a "steel barrier in strategic places" or something or other.
what happened to the mexicans? have they welched on their promise to pay for it?
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where do you currently reside, conker?
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where do you currently reside, conker?
Probably in the very wealthy Dubai Pakistan ;D
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where do you currently reside, conker?
in the minds of many ;)
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The dirty little secret is that it’s functioning more efficiently during the shutdown as most government agency employees are dead weight.
https://dailycaller.com/2019/01/14/smoke-out-resistance/
On an average day, roughly 15 percent of the employees around me are exceptional patriots serving their country. I wish I could give competitive salaries to them and no one else. But 80 percent feel no pressure to produce results. If they don’t feel like doing what they are told, they don’t.
Why would they? We can’t fire them. They avoid attention, plan their weekend, schedule vacation, their second job, their next position — some do this in the same position for more than a decade
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that's a different take on it TL that i haven't heard up to this point. so you're saying it's actually preferable to have the government in shutdown....hmmmm
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If you’ve ever been to a government office in the United States, you would see that it’s not exactly the best and the brightest working there more like the opposite.
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If you’ve ever been to a government office in the United States, you would see that it’s not exactly the best and the brightest working there more like the opposite.
Govt is the religion of the left
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If you’ve ever been to a government office in the United States, you would see that it’s not exactly the best and the brightest working there more like the opposite.
these guys seem to think government being shut is costing rather than saving the country a lot of money.
http://time.com/money/5494004/government-shutdown-costs-trump-border-wall/
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The dirty little secret is that it’s functioning more efficiently during the shutdown as most government agency employees are dead weight.
https://dailycaller.com/2019/01/14/smoke-out-resistance/
On an average day, roughly 15 percent of the employees around me are exceptional patriots serving their country. I wish I could give competitive salaries to them and no one else. But 80 percent feel no pressure to produce results. If they don’t feel like doing what they are told, they don’t.
Why would they? We can’t fire them. They avoid attention, plan their weekend, schedule vacation, their second job, their next position — some do this in the same position for more than a decade
This. I worked with Gov employees for 20 years in the Military. You had some who were great and would go as hard as you. But most were there to collect a check and did only enough to not get noticed. And their was literally nothing you could do.
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Democrats now are the ones prolonging the shutdown
https://news.yahoo.com/democrats-now-ones-prolonging-shutdown-234042880.html
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these guys seem to think government being shut is costing rather than saving the country a lot of money.
http://time.com/money/5494004/government-shutdown-costs-trump-border-wall/
There are many people and businesses that benefit from a bloated oversized government. So, there will be no shortage of voices claiming that the sky is falling.
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Democrats now are the ones prolonging the shutdown
https://news.yahoo.com/democrats-now-ones-prolonging-shutdown-234042880.html
it's not a problem. according to TL having the government shut down is economically a good thing for the country.
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it's not a problem. according to TL having the government shut down is economically a good thing for the country.
That’s an oversimplification. The classic symptoms of an oversized government, overregulation and high taxation do have an adverse effect on the economy.
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I have yet to be impacted by this shutdown.
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I have yet to be impacted by this shutdown.
Partial shutdown.
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Partial shutdown.
I have yet to be partially impacted by this partial shutdown.
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Democrats now are the ones prolonging the shutdown
https://news.yahoo.com/democrats-now-ones-prolonging-shutdown-234042880.html
FAKE NEWS
Republican Controlled Congress passed a continuing resolution to fund the government in December 2018.
Trump told Mitch he would sign it and then he went back on his word.
If McConnell brought this to a vote tomorrow morning there would likely be enough Republicans who would vote to override Trumps veto
McConnell said on January 15th that he would not let this happen (i.e. would not allow the Senate to vote to override a Trump veto)
If the votes exists and McConnell won't allow the vote to happen then Republicans are to blame
And of course Trump is primarily to blame since he's holding the government hostage to extort money the he promised to get from Mexico (idiot promise but that's what he said many times)
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I have yet to be partially impacted by this partial shutdown.
And you won’t be. Most of the agencies that are shutdown wouldn’t be missed if they never returned.
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FAKE NEWS
Republican Controlled Congress passed a continuing resolution to fund the government in December 2018.
Trump told Mitch he would sign it and then he went back on his word.
If McConnell brought this to a vote tomorrow morning there would likely be enough Republicans who would vote to override Trumps veto
McConnell said on January 15th that he would not let this happen (i.e. would not allow the Senate to vote to override a Trump veto)
If the votes exists and McConnell won't allow the vote to happen then Republicans are to blame
And of course Trump is primarily to blame since he's holding the government hostage to extort money the he promised to get from Mexico (idiot promise but that's what he said many times)
If, if, if......if demoncrats were sensible people, we wouldn't be partially shut down right now
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If, if, if......if demoncrats were sensible people, we wouldn't be partially shut down right now
why would they give Trump money for his wall
here are some facts you may have forgotten
1. Republican had two years and didn't fund his stupid and worthless wall
2. Trump said Mexico would pay for it
3. Trump said He would take responsibility for the shutdown
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why would they give Trump money for his wall
here are some facts you may have forgotten
1. Republican had two years and didn't fund his stupid and worthless wall
2. Trump said Mexico would pay for it
3. Trump said He would take responsibility for the shutdown
The wall is a 5 Billion dollar cross burning. Nothing more.
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The wall is a 5 Billion dollar cross burning. Nothing more.
It's definitely a 5 billion dollar boondoggle
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The wall is a 5 Billion dollar cross burning. Nothing more.
It's definitely a 5 billion dollar boondoggle
Handing out tens of billions in "foreign aid" to the same countries the wall would protect us from is totally cool with you guys though, right?
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been reading about this online and i'm reading that polls show most americans blame president for current shutdown which apparently goes against the trend for previous shutdowns.
apparently in one poll even trump voters blamed trump for the shutdown...
what is the truth on this?
Here are the recent survey results:
A Quinnipiac University poll taken Jan. 9-13 found that 56 percent of Americans blame Trump and Republicans for the shutdown, while 36 percent fault Democrats.
A Washington Post/ABC poll taken Jan. 8-11 found that 53 percent say Trump and congressional Republicans are to blame, while 29 percent point the finger at Democrats.
A CNN poll taken Jan. 10-11 showed that 55 percent blame Trump and Republicans, while 32 percent blame Democrats.
A CBS/YouGov survey taken Jan. 9-11 said 47 percent blame Trump, 3 percent blame Republicans, and 30 percent blame Democrats.
A Reuters/Ipsos poll taken January 1-7 found that 51 percent blame Trump, 7 percent blame Republicans and 32 percent fault Democrats.
A Politico/Morning Consult poll from Jan. 4-6 found that 47 percent blame Trump, 5 percent blame Republicans and 33 percent blame Democrats.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-01-14/trump-took-responsibility-for-shutdown-and-voters-give-it-to-him
Who gives a fuck about polls. If you can’t figure it using common sense then there’s no hope for you
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been reading about this online and i'm reading that polls show most americans blame president for current shutdown which apparently goes against the trend for previous shutdowns.
apparently in one poll even trump voters blamed trump for the shutdown...
what is the truth on this?
Here are the recent survey results:
A Quinnipiac University poll taken Jan. 9-13 found that 56 percent of Americans blame Trump and Republicans for the shutdown, while 36 percent fault Democrats.
A Washington Post/ABC poll taken Jan. 8-11 found that 53 percent say Trump and congressional Republicans are to blame, while 29 percent point the finger at Democrats.
A CNN poll taken Jan. 10-11 showed that 55 percent blame Trump and Republicans, while 32 percent blame Democrats.
A CBS/YouGov survey taken Jan. 9-11 said 47 percent blame Trump, 3 percent blame Republicans, and 30 percent blame Democrats.
A Reuters/Ipsos poll taken January 1-7 found that 51 percent blame Trump, 7 percent blame Republicans and 32 percent fault Democrats.
A Politico/Morning Consult poll from Jan. 4-6 found that 47 percent blame Trump, 5 percent blame Republicans and 33 percent blame Democrats.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-01-14/trump-took-responsibility-for-shutdown-and-voters-give-it-to-him
And !!!!!
Do you not Remember only 2yrs ago !!!
The Polls overwhelmingly showed Killary was Going to Win.
How did that Workout ???
Wrong.
😂😂😂😂
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I have yet to be partially impacted by this partial shutdown.
Me neither. :)
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Me neither. :)
Yeah, if it doesn't have any impact on you then who cares
I remember Jesus said that in the Sermon on the Mount
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Who gives a fuck about polls. If you can’t figure it using common sense then there’s no hope for you
You - when they support something that you believe
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You - when they support something that you believe
https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5821074ce4b0e80b02cc2a94/amp
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i'm hearing on UK media that trump caved . government is reopen and trump got no funding for wall. is that the case or just fake news from the libtard lefty media?
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i'm hearing on UK media that trump caved . government is reopen and trump got no funding for wall. is that the case or just fake news from the libtard lefty media?
Translation: Nancy pegged his fat ass today.
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yeh i thought it sounded true.
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3 weeks. During which Trump will more than likely make his SOTU and let the American people know what's up and at the end of that, when Felonsi and demoncrats don't deal with the wall, it will shut down again. :)
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I have yet to be impacted by this shutdown.
That's good news for you. Not so much for those who were furloughed and required to work sans pay.
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i'm hearing on UK media that trump caved . government is reopen and trump got no funding for wall. is that the case or just fake news from the libtard lefty media?
If so - He can’t win them all.
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Who gives a fuck about polls. If you can’t figure it using common sense then there’s no hope for you
Tell me how this commonsense thing works in this situation. Polls aren't accurate. This doesn't mean they don't have value. Even your boy Trump pays attention to polls.
But then, he lets Ann Coulter dictate what he does.
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Tell me how this commonsense thing works in this situation. Polls aren't accurate. This doesn't mean they don't have value. Even your boy Trump pays attention to polls.
But then, he lets Ann Coulter dictate what he does.
I thought Putin controlled Trump? Would you guys make up your minds?
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I thought Putin controlled Trump? Would you guys make up your minds?
You mean puppet man?
(https://images.dailykos.com/images/505832/story_image/Putins_Puppet.jpg?1518211454)
(https://www.smdp.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/Putins-puppet-part-2-e1537127188980.png)
(https://www.thewrap.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/coulter.jpg)
(http://fewings.ca/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2019/01/TrumpWallc.jpg)
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it's not a problem. according to TL having the government shut down is economically a good thing for the country.
LOL
US payrolls grow by 304,000 despite government shutdown
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/business/u-s-payrolls-grow-by-304-000-despite-government-shutdown
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LOL
US payrolls grow by 304,000 despite government shutdown
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/business/u-s-payrolls-grow-by-304-000-despite-government-shutdown
Nobody thought it would be the longest government shutdown in history. They were betting it wouldn't last.
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You mean puppet man?
(https://images.dailykos.com/images/505832/story_image/Putins_Puppet.jpg?1518211454)
(https://www.smdp.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/Putins-puppet-part-2-e1537127188980.png)
I understand. You're a little slow.
Trump’s Venezuela Sanctions Put Russian Billions at Risk
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/venezuela-oil-sanctions-put-russian-000100428.html
U.S. intensifies anti-Maduro push as Russia backs Venezuelan ally
WASHINGTON/CARACAS (Reuters) - The United States on Friday intensified its push to drive Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro from power, as U.S. diplomats left the embassy in Caracas and Russia vowed to back its socialist South American ally.
Russia opposes the request and has accused Washington of backing a coup attempt, placing Venezuela at the heart of a growing geopolitical duel. Moscow will insist on compliance with international law, Russia's RIA news agency cited Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov as saying on Friday.
Private military contractors who carry out secret missions for Russia have flown into Venezuela in the past few days to beef up security for Maduro, sources said.
https://news.yahoo.com/u-diplomats-leave-caracas-embassy-washington-backs-maduro-151027480.html
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You mean puppet man?
(https://images.dailykos.com/images/505832/story_image/Putins_Puppet.jpg?1518211454)
(https://www.smdp.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/Putins-puppet-part-2-e1537127188980.png)
(https://www.thewrap.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/coulter.jpg)
(http://fewings.ca/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2019/01/TrumpWallc.jpg)
You leftists will believe anything...lmao