Speaks to his ho-hum competition. He was the best of a mediocre generation.
Speaks to his ho-hum competition. He was the best of a mediocre generation.
Speaks to his ho-hum competition. He was the best of a mediocre generation.
i think he's becoming underrated, i love the 90's as much as anybody but some people actually say he wouldn't be top 6 back then
he doesn't have the best looking body, but neither did dorian or ronnie and they had just as many weaknesses as phil
he probably beats all of the 90's guys for the same reason they did unless they change the judging criteria on the fly like they did last year when rhoden won, if it's judged based on every other year only ronnie and maybe dorian could beat him
as for paul dillet post a back double bi shot of phil and paul, phil is much more complete overall and would win easily, the shows aren't judged based on the guys just standing there relaxed
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Not really the sport and its judging criteria lost its way in the late 90s and it allowed guys who are structurally deficient win as they started rewarding mass over everything else. Prior to Coleman you could honestly say that the guy who won the olympia also had the best structure sometimes he wasn't the most muscular guy, but had shape symmetry and mass. This went out the window with Ronnie and Cutler, but in all honesty they never faced Wheeler and Levrone at their best and the standard dropped to allow them to win especially in Jays case a lesser argument can be made with Ronnie, structure wise he wasn't as good as his predecessors but mass wise he was hard to ignore especially when compared to wheeler and leverone who had already peaked in the yates era, at their peak I think they could both have beaten him.
heath is basically just great arms, good abs and a small wait. that's him in a nutshell... a small Dillet with shittier quads. the two most important muscle groups that make the torso, the pecs and back are seriously lacking in development for heath. this is why he looks like his arms overpower his upper body...
I have seen phil hit the back double biceps...great definition to his back, but the width is not there. mr.Os always have thickess in their pecs and backs...comparing heath to Yates or Ronnie is asinine...
i don't think you've ever actually seen him, his abs aren't even that good but they are better than ronnie's
his quads are anything but a weakness, better than yates
his only weakness is his width but that's better than having those twigs for arms yates had, his back is more detailed than both ronnie and dorian's
from the side his chest is fantastic, not so good from the front
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-mguVNMhupA0/Uj2ig6u-LJI/AAAAAAAAWUU/jpSHmDu1WZY/s1600/PhilHeath-MD-Oct13-PerBernal-348JJJb.jpg)
(https://musclemecca.com/imported-images/2015/07/11692485_1011125045589116_69634171639296-1.jpg)
phil has no weak pose while ronnie is weak in side triceps and abs/thighs, dorian is weak in most muscular and front double bi after 93
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His quads are better than Yates? Wow, Disagree with this strongly.
i don't think you've ever actually seen him, his abs aren't even that good but they are better than ronnie's
his quads are anything but a weakness, better than yates
his only weakness is his width but that's better than having those twigs for arms yates had, his back is more detailed than both ronnie and dorian's
from the side his chest is fantastic, not so good from the front
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-mguVNMhupA0/Uj2ig6u-LJI/AAAAAAAAWUU/jpSHmDu1WZY/s1600/PhilHeath-MD-Oct13-PerBernal-348JJJb.jpg)
(https://musclemecca.com/imported-images/2015/07/11692485_1011125045589116_69634171639296-1.jpg)
phil has no weak pose while ronnie is weak in side triceps and abs/thighs, dorian is weak in most muscular and front double bi after 93
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Oh I have seen him buddy..have you? I have seen him guest posing, and even at his offseason weight he looks narrow and his back sucks. His back is narrow for a 240lbs guy and much less so for a mr.O. his abs are really good, one of the best on any mr.O, but not in the lee labrada league.
His pecs are atrociously bad from any angle. from the side, they look flat...from the front they look incredibly narrow and underdeveloped. comparing him to Ronnie or Yates in the side chest is asinine...both had far more thickess and roundness..
Most muscular is not even one of the mandatory poses...not sure why you bring this up.
You say that it is better to have big arms with a narrow torso than small arms with a huge toros. first of all, yates didn't have "tiny" arms...his arms were around 20". secondly, physiques are supposed to be balanced...so either one of the other is bad, and thirdly, IMO, having big back and pecs are more important than big arms with tiny back and pecs...pec and backs are much larger and more important muscles for a man's overall image of strength and development than arms...put a guy with huge arms and small back and pecs next to a guy with huge back and pecs and the latter looks stronger and more impressive.
so there. :)
Oh I have seen him buddy..have you? I have seen him guest posing, and even at his offseason weight he looks narrow and his back sucks. His back is narrow for a 240lbs guy and much less so for a mr.O. his abs are really good, one of the best on any mr.O, but not in the lee labrada league.
His pecs are atrociously bad from any angle. from the side, they look flat...from the front they look incredibly narrow and underdeveloped. comparing him to Ronnie or Yates in the side chest is asinine...both had far more thickess and roundness..
Most muscular is not even one of the mandatory poses...not sure why you bring this up.
You say that it is better to have big arms with a narrow torso than small arms with a huge toros. first of all, yates didn't have "tiny" arms...his arms were around 20". secondly, physiques are supposed to be balanced...so either one of the other is bad, and thirdly, IMO, having big back and pecs are more important than big arms with tiny back and pecs...pec and backs are much larger and more important muscles for a man's overall image of strength and development than arms...put a guy with huge arms and small back and pecs next to a guy with huge back and pecs and the latter looks stronger and more impressive.
so there. :)
i think a lot of ppl dont like Phil's build since they do not like him.... they are connected more than ppl want to admit it
he had an out going/good personality like Phil Mickelson ppl would applaud his build - but phil is not well liked and never will be
we all know he would have his work cut out for him if he was around 1990 to 2005
Bingo! I never like him personally but I have to admit in his early wins he was pretty impressive. Even this last Olympia all Rhoden had on him was chest and abs. It's just that Phil's midsection is so bad it ruins everything. If he had the same midsection that he had in 2011 he would have beaten Shawn.
Who was supposed to be winning during all those years exactly?
This is a bullshit, and the degradation of bodybuilding...the guy is narrow from the front, flat pecs, quads that look big only because his calves are tiny. his back is defined but narrow compared to previous mr.O's. the only thing he had are great arms, good abs and a small waist with a good V-taper.Isn't this a suckmymuscle gimmick account?
I see Heath as a smaller and shittier version of Dillet in the mid 90s. at least Dillet had great and not just good quads and a V-taper at 270 lbs. that is far more impressive IMO
Isn't this a suckmymuscle gimmick account?
This is a bullshit, and the degradation of bodybuilding...the guy is narrow from the front, flat pecs, quads that look big only because his calves are tiny. his back is defined but narrow compared to previous mr.O's. the only thing he had are great arms, good abs and a small waist with a good V-taper.
I see Heath as a smaller and shittier version of Dillet in the mid 90s. at least Dillet had great and not just good quads and a V-taper at 270 lbs. that is far more impressive IMO
yates had the strangest looking quads i've ever seen
(https://tse4.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.EfHT47uLKC7DfMo79kJVKQHaLI&pid=15.1&P=0&w=300&h=300)
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Isn't this a suckmymuscle gimmick account?
(https://sd.keepcalm-o-matic.co.uk/i-w600/keep-calm-because-pedro-is-back-1.jpg)
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=411916.0
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=220036.msg3071777#msg3071777
In the pic's you've posted Dorian Dominates Phil
Man & Boy.
Well Done. ;D
no he doesn't, move on from your nostalgia already dorian has absolutely nothing over him
he doesn't have the back poses on him like he did Mr. Levrone and flex, and he sure as hell has nothing on him from the front except lat spread
phil is far more detailed and separated with no lagging body parts or weak poses, unlike twig arms yates 92 -93 and torn shriveled arms post 93
only ronnie beats phil at his best, and not because he's more complete but because ronnie's sheer size and freakiness would be too hard for anybody to overcome
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no he doesn't, move on from your nostalgia already dorian has absolutely nothing over him
he doesn't have the back poses on him like he did Mr. Levrone and flex, and he sure as hell has nothing on him from the front except lat spread
phil is far more detailed and separated with no lagging body parts or weak poses, unlike twig arms yates 92 -93 and torn shriveled arms post 93
only ronnie beats phil at his best, and not because he's more complete but because ronnie's sheer size and freakiness would be too hard for anybody to overcome
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Who was supposed to be winning during all those years exactly?
no he doesn't, move on from your nostalgia already dorian has absolutely nothing over him
he doesn't have the back poses on him like he did Mr. Levrone and flex, and he sure as hell has nothing on him from the front except lat spread
phil is far more detailed and separated with no lagging body parts or weak poses, unlike twig arms yates 92 -93 and torn shriveled arms post 93
only ronnie beats phil at his best, and not because he's more complete but because ronnie's sheer size and freakiness would be too hard for anybody to overcome
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Yes He does
Dryness
Condition
Better bone structure
Phils Twigglet Calves
Shoulder width of a Young Boy
Insulin neck
Dough boy condition
Small chest - Totally over shadowed by his enormous Arms
These are All things phil’s been called on
Take your Rose Tinted Specs Off.
Phil looked his best around 2011/12 IIRC
And He Does Have Huge Arms - Though they overshadow his physique.
It would be interesting to see how Phil looks without any roundness-enhancing site injections.
Dorian - Yes He does
Dryness
Condition
Better bone structure
Better Back Bigger & Much Wider
Phils Twigglet Calves
Shoulder width of a Young Boy
Insulin neck
Dough boy condition
Small chest - Totally over shadowed by his enormous Arms
These are All things phil’s been called on
Take your Rose Tinted Specs Off.
Phil looked his best around 2011/12 IIRC
And He Does Have Huge Arms - Though they overshadow his physique.
Oh & Phils been gifted more Mr Olympia wins 7 of them. ;D
End of Subject.
heard this before, never got where people came up with this...I am a tobacco connoisseur and trader currently living in Atlanta...What cigars are in your top 10?
i don't think you've ever actually seen him, his abs aren't even that good but they are better than ronnie's
his quads are anything but a weakness, better than yates
his only weakness is his width but that's better than having those twigs for arms yates had, his back is more detailed than both ronnie and dorian's
from the side his chest is fantastic, not so good from the front
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-mguVNMhupA0/Uj2ig6u-LJI/AAAAAAAAWUU/jpSHmDu1WZY/s1600/PhilHeath-MD-Oct13-PerBernal-348JJJb.jpg)
(https://musclemecca.com/imported-images/2015/07/11692485_1011125045589116_69634171639296-1.jpg)
phil has no weak pose while ronnie is weak in side triceps and abs/thighs, dorian is weak in most muscular and front double bi after 93
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bodybuilding is also part popularity contest - dont ever forget that.
;D
No weak poses ;D
Dorian mops the floor with him in every single pose sans most muscular and front double biceps. Phil is lighter than Dorian and doesn't even come close in terms of density & dryness which means he's carrying more fat & water so therefore no even close in terms of real size.
if you are going to post pics of phil at his worst you should do the same for dorian
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Phil paid you to write this right?
nope i just have two working eyes
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Say the guy who chose 1994 pictures ::) to prove your ' point ' You proved the point you're biased and ignorant to boot.
And a biased brain in which to view them with. Phil is the best of his generation easily. He's not in Dorian's league , Ronnie wasn't in Dorian's league.
he won 3 more olympias after that so is that really unfair? his conditioning was slightly off his best that's it
i am not biased at all, it's well known who my favorite bodybuilder is and i can admit phil would beat him more often than not
nobody is more biased than you
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dorian is the most overrated bodybuilder of all time
he set the standards for the ugly bodies we see today, and ronnie crushes him it's not even close
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nope i just have two working eyes
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Don't complain about bad pictures or pictures of them not at their best when you're guilty of using them seriously , don't be a hypocrite.
I'm not sure Phil would beat Kevin it would be close. And I'm biased towards the criteria which Dorian meets better than anyone including Phil.
Wow never heard that before ::) Ronnie never crushed him , came in 6th once LMAO ;D
Yeah Buddy Yip Yip !!
well go ahead and post the 93 pics if you want, phil owns him there too
i can admit phil didn't deserve the O in 2018 and probably not in 2017
can you do the same for dorian in 97 when he looked like complete dog shit? prove that you're not the biased hypocrite
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ok lets cherry pick the worst they ever looked because i posted pics from 94 ::)
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Dorian is 270 Phil 240-250 same height roughly. Dorian bigger , wider and weighs more and has infinitely better conditioning. Thanks for playing though.
Dorian won 1997 if you knew how contests were actually judged instead of saying " see this part is better and this part is better , so see he wins " ::)
Dorian collected more mandatory poses over Nasser it's simple even for the simple minded. Keep spouting all you want it's history at this point kid.
270 and at least 40 pounds was in his gut, what a disgusting piece of shit he was that year it was embarassing for him to win
he won 2 poses over nasser the two back poses, if rhoden beats phil last year nasser easily wins in 97, finally the judges decided that a disgusting midsection is a glaring weakness that should be penalized
thanks for admitting you are a biased hypocrite
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Oh don't like it when it's done to you? :'( Hypocrite
Yeah Phil has no gut whatsoever lol You're bias is showing again. and I was talking about the black & white photos. Sure he only won 2 poses because you're a judge ::) you're arguing with history. facts are facts weather you agree with him or not.
no actually i do like it, give me an excuse to point out how shitty dorian looked and nothing pushes your buttons more than dorian bashing
move over david hasselhoff ;D
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when did i say that phil has no gut whatsoever?
i'm not even a phil fan, just saying he's better than dorian, you will literally argue this for YEARS so who is the biased one? one negative comment about dorian sends you running to any post to defend him
here's some history for you, phil has more olympias than dorian, you're arguing with history facts are facts "weather" you agree with them or not ;D
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Dorian in 93 vs Phil in 2010 vs Ronnie in 2003 vs Jay in 2009!! Taking all the BS and politics out of it this one would be hard to call and could go any which way.
Dorian in 93 vs Phil in 2010 vs Ronnie in 2003 vs Jay in 2009!! Taking all the BS and politics out of it this one would be hard to call and could go any which way.
Dorian.
Oh don't like it when it's done to you? :'( Hypocrite
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no actually i do like it, give me an excuse to point out how shitty dorian looked and nothing pushes your buttons more than dorian bashing
move over david hasselhoff ;D
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This is one of the better shots of Phil looks awesome here.
Dorian is 270 Phil 240-250 same height roughly. Dorian bigger , wider and weighs more and has infinitely better conditioning. Thanks for playing though.
Dorian won 1997 if you knew how contests were actually judged instead of saying " see this part is better and this part is better , so see he wins " ::)
Dorian collected more mandatory poses over Nasser it's simple even for the simple minded. Keep spouting all you want it's history at this point kid.
it would also be interesting to know how come not everybody is using that winning strategy
maybe they just dont feel like winning
move over david hasselhoff ;D
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Hypocrites gonna hypocrite. Dorian's gut bad , Phils? no mention ;)
I won't argue this for years, At least Ronnie would have given Dorian a run for his money , Phil? ::)
Phil has more Sandows against who? Kai and Hamy? :o Dorian beat your hero and everyone else's hero. Phil gets credit he's the best of his era and his era sucks , he's faced ho-hum competition and the first challenge and he buckles :-\
dorian 305 lbs in this picture..what are you trying to prove exactly..? That a 5'10 man even if he is mr.O cannot be completely ripped with a flat belly at over 300 lbs? ???
dorian had a gut in 93, his 2nd title
phil didn't have a gut until his 6th title
i "fear" great pictures of dorian? those pics were from 93 and phil owns him in those pics
dorian clearly lost in 97 to nasser, he should've been 5th at best, many think he lost to tiny shawn ray in 94, now phil heath who is far more complete than both nasser and shawn wouldn't beat dorian ::)
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dorian had a gut in 93, his 2nd title
phil didn't have a gut until his 6th title
i "fear" great pictures of dorian? those pics were from 93 and phil owns him in those pics
dorian clearly lost in 97 to nasser, he should've been 5th at best, many think he lost to tiny shawn ray in 94, now phil heath who is far more complete than both nasser and shawn wouldn't beat dorian ::)
Entertaining it's true it's completely irrelevant to the subject.
Sure he does , because you said so. ::) You're gonna have to to do better than that. Forget the FACT that there is vast discrepancy between camera technology in 1993 compared to the 21st Century ::)
More nonsense because you say so it's true. Stupid pay attention 12 judges awarded Dorian the title in 1997 so he clearly didn't lose to anyone , so much for that theory. Dorian clearly lost some poses in 1997 and if the contest was judged on some poses you could make a case but facts are facts regardless if you like them or agree with them.
Oh wow " many think he lost to Shawn " then that must make it true. ::) It's like I'm arguing with a fucking child. I'll agree Phil is more complete than both Ray and Nasser , however he's still smaller , narrower and pales in comparison to Dorian in conditioning and posing and presentation. Dorian has more advantages than Phil , and Shawn and Nasser and Kevin and Flex and Ronnie.
Dorian would easily beat Phil in front & rear latspreads , he would beat Phil in side triceps and ab-thigh , and back double biceps although Phil would be very competitive in this shot ,Dorian wins the side chest ! Like Rhoden said Phil doesn't even know how to do it. What's that leave Phil with? Most muscular and front double biceps? ::) WOW Dorian wins all 1/4 turns will give Phil standing relaxed from the front.
Dorian compared to anyone else is a simple collection of more of the desired IFBB criteria. In fantasy land in which Earl lives in he sucks and loses to everyone , congrats. You can't separate what you find aesthetically pleasing to what wins. I was like this when Dorian beat Flex in 93 then I learned how contests were judged you still haven't , Good thing I'm patient and keep teaching you but we get it you're a slow learner.
that pic is hilarious, it was taken when baywatch was the most popular show in the world
get new glasses if you think that belly looks flat
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I'm the farthest thing from a Heath fan, but it's more outrageous that Jay Cutler won it even one time.
Spot on - Well Said
Dorian wins Because he wins more poses in the judging criteria
The likes of earl don’t want to or can’t see / understand this.
Yes I’m a judge for NABBA & PCA
Here in the U.K.
earl just goes on what he likes no rhyme or reason or rationale.
Hey I think Kevin / Shawn / Flex Etc All had fantastic physiques
Genetic freaks they were only they rightly so couldn’t beat Dorian
Some just can’t admit it & accept it.
Difficult to take him seriously.
Who should have won in 2009?
(http://anthonycolpo.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Jay-Cutler-Mr-Olympia-2009.jpg)
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Dorian ruined bodybuilding for ever.
You think Dorian won all his titles fair and square?
Never got the hype with Dorian or why so many are fans of his physique, I get it’s bbing, but from a physique stand point Kevin, flex, were all better
It’s like branch winning the AC title and placing 2nd at the O, never understood that as well
Or is it one of those physiques “you have to see in person” ::)
Who should have won in 2009?
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I'm the farthest thing from a Heath fan, but it's more outrageous that Jay Cutler won it even one time.
Dorian won all of his Olympia titles
97 was a close call yes
Though he still had enough (just) to win
And Did you Ever See Dorian in Person at a Olympia.
And that’s fine, from a bbing perspective and competing I get that
Unfortunately, no, I’ve seen most of the 90’s guys from Venice golds though
How did Dorian look compared to others you’ve seen?
You forget 2009.
And how he looked in 2001.
Jay was a Standout at That Olympia
A Clear Winner by a long way.
they all look like shit when they guest pose, i don't consider 4 abs to be really good, and i have no clue how anybody can look at that back and think it's weak when only ronnie and dorian are comparable
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(http://www.freynutrition.info/olympia/2013/olympia-2013-heath-3.jpg)
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I was no Dorian fan, Even couldn’t figure the Hype
Until I See him on stage against Flex & Kevin Etc
Those 2 in particular looked Amazing
That was until Dorian stood between them , Yes they Did still look great Only Dorian was Cleary the Winner.
Strange Phenomena - Dorian was 3D & Great muscle mass from all angles.
This is a bullshit, and the degradation of bodybuilding...the guy is narrow from the front, flat pecs, quads that look big only because his calves are tiny. his back is defined but narrow compared to previous mr.O's. the only thing he had are great arms, good abs and a small waist with a good V-taper.
I see Heath as a smaller and shittier version of Dillet in the mid 90s. at least Dillet had great and not just good quads and a V-taper at 270 lbs. that is far more impressive IMO
QFT
Kai was robbed 2013-2015 and Ramy robbed in 2017
Here he is; not sure the year:
maybe ramy but not kai
i post clear visual evidence of his supremacy over dorian and his fanboys pretend their own eyes are lying ::)
it's sad to see how much people crap on phil because they don't like his personality, he's the lebron of bodybuilding
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LMMFAO better than Dorian ::) ::) ::) ::)
maybe ramy but not kai
i post clear visual evidence of his supremacy over dorian and his fanboys pretend their own eyes are lying ::)
it's sad to see how much people crap on phil because they don't like his personality, he's the lebron of bodybuilding
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Like the great Larry Scott, Phildo has narrow shoulders and teensie-weensie pecs Unlike the great Larry Scott, Phildo is not a tanned, masculine, blonde-haired beach god. Phildo is a fugly black midget that makes dumb pooping faces when he poses. Serge Nubret is a tall, black, handsome and masculine god and is far better than Phildo will ever be.Tell us how you really feel. LOL
Again, Phildo is a black midget that makes dumb pooping faces when he poses. Of the current crop of crap, only Kai
"The Turdle" Greene is a worse choice for the O.
Fuck Phildo to Hell.
LMFAO " clear visual evidence " shitty scans from Muscletime taking in 1994 to modern hi-definition pictures of Phil 2 decades later. ::) Your stupidity is boundless.
Phil gets credit for being the best of his era , He is pretty above his competition but Kai gave him a run for his money but he's a deserving winner. But seriously Dorian would mop the floor with him. Dorian faced much stiffer competition in much better condition and left them all for dead. Phil doesn't stand a chance.
LMMFAO better than Dorian ::) ::) ::) ::)
Like the great Larry Scott, Phildo has narrow shoulders and teensie-weensie pecs Unlike the great Larry Scott, Phildo is not a tanned, masculine, blonde-haired beach god. Phildo is a fugly black midget that makes dumb pooping faces when he poses. Serge Nubret is a tall, black, handsome and masculine god and is far better than Phildo will ever be.
Again, Phildo is a black midget that makes dumb pooping faces when he poses. Of the current crop of crap, only Kai
"The Turdle" Greene is a worse choice for the O.
Fuck Phildo to Hell.
In that pic Phil is all Head - Shoulders & Arms
He looks Awful - Not a Good Look At All.
Dexter & Dennis look far better.
Not a good pose / look for Phil.
the Lebron of bodybuilding...more like a college basketball player who could barely make it to the pros. how can phil be great if his entire torso is missing? the torso muscles are the most important in a man's overall muscularity...the pecs and the back. phil's pecs are as flat as the Great Plains. His back is defined, but he lacks width in his lats compared to previous mr.Os and the thickness is missing too.
phil's assets are only his great arms and that he had a small waist with a good V-taper,...that's it. very impressive in the front double biceps and that's it. standing relaxed he looks good because of his waist but not great because he is so narrow...
phil is a smaller shittier version of Dillet...comparing him to the likes of dorian and Coleman is asinine...even Arnold IMO looked better than phil at 240 lbs because Arnold is a lot wider with much thicker pecs and back just as wide. a bodybuilder from the 1970's is better than phil!!!!
you clearly hate his guts, so you'll never give him the credit he deserves
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this right here proves my point, i posted clear visual evidence and you are pretending your own eyes are lying ::)
phil is the most complete bodybuilder of all time, only ronnie beats him because of his sheer freakiness
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LOL and you said i was unfair for posting 94 dorian pics, this pics was before his olympia reign even started it's from 2010
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i posted 93 pics too sorry your hero got owned, your fanboyism is boundless and it's strange and creepy considering you admit you don't even like dorian's physique so why spend literally 15 years defending him? autism?
doesn't matter what competition he faced, phil would've beaten everybody except ronnie
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Sure he got owned because you say so. Your dislike for Yates is boundless and it's strange and creepy. I'm not defending Yates I'm correcting his stupid critics.
Dorian mopped the floor with Ronnie , would mop the floor with Phil. Ronnie comes a fuck of a lot closer than Phil would.
Another tete-a-tetes where Earl asserts he's correct and all others are wrong just cause . Congrats you've proven you're a ignorant delusional fanboy in the 10 thousandth thread.
Just for Earl.
Samir beat Haney
Haney beat Dorian
Dorian beat Ronnie
Ronnie beat Jay
Jay beat Phil
AHHA !!
Samir is Better Than Phil
So Haney & Dorian & Ronnie & Jay.
Easy 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Just for Earl.
Samir beat Haney
Haney beat Dorian
Dorian beat Ronnie
Ronnie beat Jay
Jay beat Phil
AHHA !!
Samir is Better Than Phil
So Haney & Dorian & Ronnie & Jay.
Easy 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
All seriousness though, do y’all really think Jay is better than Phil?
This is a bullshit, and the degradation of bodybuilding...the guy is narrow from the front, flat pecs, quads that look big only because his calves are tiny. his back is defined but narrow compared to previous mr.O's. the only thing he had are great arms, good abs and a small waist with a good V-taper.
I see Heath as a smaller and shittier version of Dillet in the mid 90s. at least Dillet had great and not just good quads and a V-taper at 270 lbs. that is far more impressive IMO
"most complete bodybuilder of all times"....you are delusional. the visual evidence you posted is just your opinion. what is objective is that phil is narrow from the front, has tiny pecs that look like shit in the mandatory, a long waist and tiny calves. his back is defined and looks ok in the back double biceps, but his back lacks width compared to previous mr.Os. again, these are facts. what you did is post visual evidence that confirms this...just because you think he is complete does not mean that he is complete objectively, just because you like the look of huge arms with a small waist does not take away from the fact that his physique has serious issues of muscle development and balance. comparing phil and Coleman is asinine...Coleman is so superior as to be incomparable.
I'm playing your game. Okay for you to do it but bad when I do ::)