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They took over $10 billion of bailout money in 2009 and are now closing plants in the US but opening them in China and Mexico. Also laying off over 4,000 white collar salaried workers when they just made $13 billion dollars of profit in 2019!
Boycott this piece of shit company and send them back into bankruptcy, this time with no bailout!
http://fortune.com/2019/02/01/gm-start-layoff-4000-workers-monday/
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They build shit vehicles too. Shut them down and confiscate their assets.
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Thanks trump! Single handedly destroying American jobs!
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They took over $10 billion of bailout money in 2009 and are now closing plants in the US but opening them in China and Mexico. Also laying off over 4,000 white collar salaried workers when they just made $13 billion dollars of profit in 2019!
Boycott this piece of shit company and send them back into bankruptcy, this time with no bailout!
http://fortune.com/2019/02/01/gm-start-layoff-4000-workers-monday/
Make America Great Again.....send American companies overseas. ??? ???
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They took over $10 billion of bailout money in 2009 and are now closing plants in the US but opening them in China and Mexico. Also laying off over 4,000 white collar salaried workers when they just made $13 billion dollars of profit in 2019!
Boycott this piece of shit company and send them back into bankruptcy, this time with no bailout!
http://fortune.com/2019/02/01/gm-start-layoff-4000-workers-monday/
Usually auto CEO's will wait till a downturn to start the layoffs. Mary has made the decision to make the cuts before the downturn, so those employees have a better chance of finding another job while the economy is still strong. GM's cutting 25 percent of executive management. Those people have strong resumes and will easily be able to find other jobs.
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don't blame trumpenstein for this one.
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Usually auto CEO's will wait till a downturn to start the layoffs. Mary has made the decision to make the cuts before the downturn, so those employees have a better chance of finding another job while the economy is still strong. GM's cutting 25 percent of executive management. Those people have strong resumes and will easily be able to find other jobs.
Taco Bell is hiring window help.
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I supported Trumps policy of lower company taxes as an experiment, what I didn't realise then that I do now is most companies don't pay company tax, they run onshore losses and complex accounting so as to avoid, so whilst Trump is helping small business which is great, he really makes no difference to the top end of town as they usually just simply avoid or minimise tax.
Real shame but i hoped his lower taxes policy would have stopped this from happening, what he really needs to do now is place tariffs on these cars that will arrive as imports so that the commercial value lost is greater to the company as a non resident manufacturer. That will take some doing, the democrats will be happy to have the emission reduction from loss of industry, they would see the jobs as being a sad but unsustainable in the new america, where free healthcare and welfare paid for with thin air is the perfect sustainable marxist future.
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I supported Trumps policy of lower company taxes as an experiment, what I didn't realise then that I do now is most companies don't pay company tax, they run onshore losses and complex accounting so as to avoid, so whilst Trump is helping small business which is great, he really makes no difference to the top end of town as they usually just simply avoid or minimise tax.
Real shame but i hoped his lower taxes policy would have stopped this from happening, what he really needs to do now is place tariffs on these cars that will arrive as imports so that the commercial value lost is greater to the company as a non resident manufacturer. That will take some doing, the democrats will be happy to have the emission reduction from loss of industry, they would see the jobs as being a sad but unsustainable in the new america, where free healthcare and welfare paid for with thin air is the perfect sustainable marxist future.
Good post Honest!
I don't know how it would/could work, but I felt like there should have been some type of law where companies that benefited from the tax breaks had to prove that the money trickled down and resulted in better pay, new jobs, lower health-care premiums, or any combination of those while it would also being illegal and punishable for executives to be the beneficiary of those cuts in any way. I know it would be really difficult to enforce, but regular forensic audits should be able to show what's happening.
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Taco Bell is hiring window help.
I work at Auto Zone and we are actually doing quite well!
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I work at Auto Zone and we are actually doing quite well!
You'll be getting flooded with applications from over educated unemployed people from GM soon.
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GM cars just aren’t popular with US customers. GM management can’t figure out how to fix it so they lay off people and move to lower cost of production countries. That is only rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic. Instead of an indictment of Trump’s policies this is an indictment that GM is finished as a company. They will end up just making Silverados and fade as a car manufacturer. End of story.
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My friends wife works at corporate GM downtown Detroit. She said it was like the walking dead down there.
She could she an endless line of car services outside waiting to take people home who got the axe and had to give back the keys to their company car. There was no way to tell who was getting let go. It was not merit based at all. Security staff would just show up on a floor and tell them they had to leave and then escort them out and take their keys.
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When Obama offered the massive bail out to GM, Chrysler and Ford one company refused the money. It was Ford. This infuriated Obama because he wanted it to appear it was necessary. Ford recovered just the same as the other two on their own terms. To save face Obama played semantics and claimed Ford took bail out money when it was a relatively minor and separate green energy grant that all three took. No, Ford never took the massive bail out. It's also a myth that GM and Chrysler paid back the money in full.
Regarding GM laying of workers it has nothing to do with Trump but their own mismanagement. The economy is doing amazing by every objective mathematical measure. Liberals rejoice in GM laying off workers so they can use this as propaganda to sway simpletons.
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When Obama offered the massive bail out to GM, Chrysler and Ford one company refused the money. It was Ford. This infuriated Obama because he wanted it to appear it was necessary. Ford recovered just the same as the other two on their own terms. To save face Obama played semantics and claimed Ford took bail out money when it was a relatively minor and separate green energy grant that all three took. No, Ford never took the massive bail out. It's also a myth that GM and Chrysler paid back the money in full.
Regarding GM laying of workers it has nothing to do with Trump but their own mismanagement. The economy is doing amazing by every objective mathematical measure. Liberals rejoice in GM laying off workers so they can use this as propaganda to sway simpletons.
Yes and Ford took shit from the libs saying they would end up shutting down if they didn't take money from Big Daddy Obama and Uncle Sam. Never listen to liberals when it comes to anything economic. Just look at the Green New Deal to see how bright their ideas are.
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I work at Auto Zone and we are actually doing quite well!
they are very lucky to have you
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When Obama offered the massive bail out to GM, Chrysler and Ford one company refused the money. It was Ford. This infuriated Obama because he wanted it to appear it was necessary. Ford recovered just the same as the other two on their own terms. To save face Obama played semantics and claimed Ford took bail out money when it was a relatively minor and separate green energy grant that all three took. No, Ford never took the massive bail out. It's also a myth that GM and Chrysler paid back the money in full.
Regarding GM laying of workers it has nothing to do with Trump but their own mismanagement. The economy is doing amazing by every objective mathematical measure. Liberals rejoice in GM laying off workers so they can use this as propaganda to sway simpletons.
You are not telling the full story or maybe just don't know what the story is. I can educate you as Ford was good client of mine for a while.
They were bailed out. In other ways.
They got a $5 billion billion loan from the Energy Department's Advanced Technology Vehicles Manufacturing program. For the money, it pledged to accelerate development of both hybrid and battery-powered vehicles, close dealerships, and sell Volvo. It upgraded factories in Illinois, Kentucky, Michigan, Missouri, and Ohio to produce hybrid vehicles.” We tried to help them optimize these plants but the union got involved quickly after implementation saying our software platform was policing the employees. When we deployed at Toyota, even BMW the returns were substanial for them but alas no unions.
Should be noted that ford, ten years later, is in last place, as of now, in regards to the development of hybrid and battery powered vehicles.
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FUCK GM!!!!!! they haven't made a decent vehicle in decades!! Can't compete with Japan or Germany then you should go out of business and the government should not be propping them up!!! Let the company crash and burn and the Unionist high school drop outs have to go out and find real jobs for a change!!!
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My friends wife works at corporate GM downtown Detroit. She said it was like the walking dead down there.
She could she an endless line of car services outside waiting to take people home who got the axe and had to give back the keys to their company car. There was no way to tell who was getting let go. It was not merit based at all. Security staff would just show up on a floor and tell them they had to leave and then escort them out and take their keys.
That's crazy insulting, to have security goons present as if you can't control your actions. I think I'd be more angered by that than by the loss of the job.
Besides, it sort of admits that the company treated you badly enough for years that your were kept just under boil-over only by the promise of continued income.
Imo if you're that close to violence in the first place, and the company adds the insult of goons to the injury of sacking you, then, hey, maybe they got it coming. You take the one on the left, I'll take the right, then we own this floor! ;D
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That's crazy insulting, to have security goons present as if you can't control your actions. I think I'd be more angered by that than by the loss of the job.
Besides, it sort of admits that the company treated you badly enough for years that your were kept just under boil-over only by the promise of continued income.
Imo if you're that close to violence in the first place, and the company adds the insult of goons to the injury of sacking you, then, hey, maybe they got it coming. You take the one on the left, I'll take the right, then we own this floor! ;D
They do the same thing where I work even if it's a contractor who's contract isn't being renewed. The head of security's huge and he brings two guards with him. Everybody knows what's going on when this happens.
A co-worker told me story about another large three letter computer company. When one of the employees gave his two weeks notice. He sent a letter saying he wanted to work there his entire life, but was so disappointed he was leaving. They immediately sent two armed guards to escort him out.
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You are not telling the full story or maybe just don't know what the story is. I can educate you as Ford was good client of mine for a while.
They were bailed out. In other ways.
They got a $5 billion billion loan from the Energy Department's Advanced Technology Vehicles Manufacturing program. For the money, it pledged to accelerate development of both hybrid and battery-powered vehicles, close dealerships, and sell Volvo. It upgraded factories in Illinois, Kentucky, Michigan, Missouri, and Ohio to produce hybrid vehicles.” We tried to help them optimize these plants but the union got involved quickly after implementation saying our software platform was policing the employees. When we deployed at Toyota, even BMW the returns were substanial for them but alas no unions.
Should be noted that ford, ten years later, is in last place, as of now, in regards to the development of hybrid and battery powered vehicles.
Oh no! They're in last place for hybrid and battery powered vehicles! ::) You mean the vehicles no one wants?
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Oh no! They're in last place for hybrid and battery powered vehicles! ::) You mean the vehicles no one wants?
There’s profit in it. Which is why they are in business.
Tesla can’t produce fast ennough nor to demand.
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Oh no! They're in last place for hybrid and battery powered vehicles! ::) You mean the vehicles no one wants?
Hybrid cars are amazing. I have owned two. Currently drive an old Rav4 because I gave my daughter the Prius, lol.
The price of gas drives it all. When its at $4 the hybrid sales go off the charts.
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You are not telling the full story or maybe just don't know what the story is. I can educate you as Ford was good client of mine for a while.
They were bailed out. In other ways.
They got a $5 billion billion loan from the Energy Department's Advanced Technology Vehicles Manufacturing program. For the money, it pledged to accelerate development of both hybrid and battery-powered vehicles, close dealerships, and sell Volvo. It upgraded factories in Illinois, Kentucky, Michigan, Missouri, and Ohio to produce hybrid vehicles.” We tried to help them optimize these plants but the union got involved quickly after implementation saying our software platform was policing the employees. When we deployed at Toyota, even BMW the returns were substanial for them but alas no unions.
Should be noted that ford, ten years later, is in last place, as of now, in regards to the development of hybrid and battery powered vehicles.
I'm sorry X, but I read that and it seems like your just proved Old Timer's point. Ford didn't take the actual bailout program money. They did take money to be used for acceleration of developing hybrid/clean type vehicles. They followed through on the development, and like all other car manufacturers have learned; most people are not interested, or don't feel they are to the point of being 100% on par with traditional vehicles to buy them. Tesla is an outlier. They don't have a gas only vehicle (that I'm aware of) to compare it to in a line of cars and trucks. They also have nowhere near the manufacturing capacity of the major manufacturers, and are an "elitist" type of vehicle. It's either "look at me saving the planet", or "I'm rich. I have one and you don't" types that covet them.
As for blasting Trump due to GM's mismanagement for the reason that these jobs are lost, there's this https://www.cnbc.com/2019/02/07/ford-investing-1-billion-into-chicago-factories.html
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Tesla can't make cars fast enough? The government keeps them in business by funding them. Elon Musk is a genius at scamming idiots for his projects. He's never made a profit from customers in his life.
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Here's something that really boggles my mind about GM....Maybe it's different in other areas of the country...
The Pontiac Grand Am and Grand Prix models were by far two of the most common car types on the road here leading up to the bailout. When the shit hit the fan in the auto industry GM canned both models. Nice survival strategy :P
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Here's something that really boggles my mind about GM....Maybe it's different in other areas of the country...
The Pontiac Grand Am and Grand Prix models were by far two of the most common car types on the road here leading up to the bailout. When the shit hit the fan in the auto industry GM canned both models. Nice survival strategy :P
The government forced GM to eliminate brands. Hummer, Saturn, Pontiac, all got cut and all three were viable brands that GM probably would not have eliminated had the government not forced them to. It actually made more sense to cut Buick in the US than Pontiac. The government even wanted them to cut GMC and GM said no way that's a cash cow.
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Usually auto CEO's will wait till a downturn to start the layoffs. Mary has made the decision to make the cuts before the downturn, so those employees have a better chance of finding another job while the economy is still strong. GM's cutting 25 percent of executive management. Those people have strong resumes and will easily be able to find other jobs.
Easy to say when you're not the one in that position.
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The government forced GM to eliminate brands. Hummer, Saturn, Pontiac, all got cut and all three were viable brands that GM probably would not have eliminated had the government not forced them to. It actually made more sense to cut Buick in the US than Pontiac. The government even wanted them to cut GMC and GM said no way that's a cash cow.
So the decision on those brands was imposed by the government? Obama's administration couldn't be bothered to read or understand a fucking sales report?
Never knew that's what caused that decision if what you posted is true.
Saturns were another car that was very common here. I had an Ion 3 sport for a few years. Got lot's of compliments and shocked responses when people asked "what kinda car is that?" I'm not a car guy so I can't tell you the issue exactly, something to do with ball joints/bearings around the passenger side axle acted up right before the 3 yr warranty was up, so I traded it in.
My ex-gf had a black grand prix gt like this one, but with a sliding glass roof and better rims https://www.google.com/search?q=2000+grand+prix+gt&rlz=1C1PRFC_enUS643US643&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=SalejKOCG8OuZM%253A%252CzJKzidQQ1tJ82M%252C%252Fg%252F12v_cj34k&usg=AI4_-kQ-JT5r9rSk8_xGeEqRSi5hCpQ34g&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwib75ellbfgAhVEyoMKHYuEAJ4Q_B0wE3oECAUQBg#imgrc=GZMDd_N8cSeZvM:
Cool looking common-type car for back then. Nice on the inside. Drove well too......I was getting blown at the time so my opinion might be off about that. ;D
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So the decision on those brands was imposed by the government? Obama's administration couldn't be bothered to read or understand a fucking sales report?
Never knew that's what caused that decision if what you posted is true.
The decision was primarily made because badge engineering was no longer a sustainable business model. Multiple vehicles across GM were the same car with different badging with few if any differences.
GM killed Oldsmobile in early 2000s as a precursor to killing Pontiac. Buick carried on because in markets outside of North America (China especially), the Buick marque has lots of brand equity.
There is a reason Plymouth and Mercury got axed too.
GMC is an anomaly as the Chevrolet & GMC trucks are pure badge engineering.
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You are not telling the full story or maybe just don't know what the story is. I can educate you as Ford was good client of mine for a while.
They were bailed out. In other ways.
They got a $5 billion billion loan from the Energy Department's Advanced Technology Vehicles Manufacturing program. For the money, it pledged to accelerate development of both hybrid and battery-powered vehicles, close dealerships, and sell Volvo. It upgraded factories in Illinois, Kentucky, Michigan, Missouri, and Ohio to produce hybrid vehicles.” We tried to help them optimize these plants but the union got involved quickly after implementation saying our software platform was policing the employees. When we deployed at Toyota, even BMW the returns were substanial for them but alas no unions.
Should be noted that ford, ten years later, is in last place, as of now, in regards to the development of hybrid and battery powered vehicles.
Unions are the core issue destroying western capitalism and if they are the core issue in this shutdown then I fully support the shutdown, the working populations in the west are lazy overpaid and entitled. There has to be a point when liberals and unions realise you cannot pay over the odds when the product being manufactured depends on the free market for sale, its simple the product cannot cost more to make than it does to sell. Marxist idiots. The world since well before modern capitalism and its critics survived on a system of value, even communism had ties to it, they ignored the point of value and thats why as a system it failed.
Unfortunately capitalism delivers winners and losers and in todays soft world thats not tolerated.
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Unions are the core issue destroying western capitalism and if they are the core issue in this shutdown then I fully support the shutdown, the working populations in the west are lazy overpaid and entitled. There has to be a point when liberals and unions realise you cannot pay over the odds when the product being manufactured depends on the free market for sale, its simple the product cannot cost more to make than it does to sell. Marxist idiots. The world since well before modern capitalism and its critics survived on a system of value, even communism had ties to it, they ignored the point of value and thats why as a system it failed.
Unfortunately capitalism delivers winners and losers and in todays soft world thats not tolerated.
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Unions aren't at blame here. They are dont have the strength they did in the past, today they try to negotiate terms and rates of employment but their main goal is to survive.
You should check out several non union shops, with employment of 300 and over shop people, and see the conditions of "the lazy entitled overpaid worker".
Unions can be bad but they're arent the reason companies shut down.
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GM bailouts started under Bush. At some point the market speaks even if you prop GM up.
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Unions aren't at blame here. They are dont have the strength they did in the past, today they try to negotiate terms and rates of employment but their main goal is to survive.
You should check out several non union shops, with employment of 300 and over shop people, and see the conditions of "the lazy entitled overpaid worker".
Unions can be bad but they're arent the reason companies shut down.
I agree on most, but I think you're underestimating the strength that unions still have. Just look at any Dems backers, and there's likely to be one or more in the top 10....Pelosi helps pull the strings on who gets how much currently. With money comes power, and unions still have a lot of money so...
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Unions aren't at blame here. They are dont have the strength they did in the past, today they try to negotiate terms and rates of employment but their main goal is to survive.
You should check out several non union shops, with employment of 300 and over shop people, and see the conditions of "the lazy entitled overpaid worker".
Unions can be bad but they're arent the reason companies shut down.
I respectfully disagree, I have closed two businesses in the past due to unions and their inability to manage through common sense situations when bargaining. Respectfully being the word. In my opinion two biggest issues facing western economies are multi nationals who avoid paying company tax, and on the other hand unions who don't respect economic reality when bargaining agreements.
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A co-worker told me story about another large three letter computer company. When one of the employees gave his two weeks notice. He sent a letter saying he wanted to work there his entire life, but was so disappointed he was leaving. They immediately sent two armed guards to escort him out.
Being walked is normal jf you are going to a competitor, have access to business critical information, may cause trouble etc. Plus you get paid for the notice period despite not having to work. it's all very normal and very common.
Mass layoffs its key to remove people and separate quickly. A person is fine by themselves but 30 people become a mob mentality. So whilst on the surface it may look bad, the business has a priority to protect the existing employees and dispersing those laid off is a safety strategy.
I certainly would not feel safe walking out of an office and into 50-100 very upset and angry people.... who the fuck knows what 1 or 2 idiots will do. Thats why they have cars and security and walk people without allowing them to go back to their desk.
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I respectfully disagree, I have closed two businesses in the past due to unions and their inability to manage through common sense situations when bargaining. Respectfully being the word. In my opinion two biggest issues facing western economies are multi nationals who avoid paying company tax, and on the other hand unions who don't respect economic reality when bargaining agreements.
Fair enough. Im sorry for your experiences dealing with some of these nincompoops.
I worked for a privately owned food manufacturer/distributor and the if the owner would shut down production facilities and reopen it in a different city as opposed to deal with the union nonsense.
This was a company with 4000 + employees but each district had a different union so there was no unity between the districts.
The union did try to make the workplace better and establish fair pay, but they had no real power and would continually lose power every contract negotiation. It had its benefits but they were more concerned about staying operational.
The company I work for now is much smaller and the plant people could benefit from union organization, but I'm sure the doors would be shut before the union could even pass out literature.
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All good Dave, the view will always be best from a position of self interest, in saying that I have always tried not to forget where I have come from and totally respect the people who have worked for me, competing against globals who don't pay tax, is in my opinion worse than bargaining with unions. Where companies due to scale and global operations can find tax relief in the form of complicated avoidance gives them an unfair advantage in the marketplace over the little guys who can't, its the main factor driving globalisation, they don't pay tax, their onshore family business competitors do, if you avoid don't pay tax you can sell at margins below the little guy and squeeze him out. The IRS will always go the little guy over the multi national due to litigation usually being about who can fund the best defence. Biggest failure of western governments over the years has been allowing this to happen. The country of residence is worse off as the tax base as a percentage shrinks overall, so no one is better off except the companies, their lobbyists and the politicians bought off along the way.
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Unions aren't at blame here. They are dont have the strength they did in the past, today they try to negotiate terms and rates of employment but their main goal is to survive.
You should check out several non union shops, with employment of 300 and over shop people, and see the conditions of "the lazy entitled overpaid worker".
Unions can be bad but they're arent the reason companies shut down.
Unions absolutely can be the reason for companies shutting down.
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The decision was primarily made because badge engineering was no longer a sustainable business model. Multiple vehicles across GM were the same car with different badging with few if any differences.
GM killed Oldsmobile in early 2000s as a precursor to killing Pontiac. Buick carried on because in markets outside of North America (China especially), the Buick marque has lots of brand equity.
There is a reason Plymouth and Mercury got axed too.
GMC is an anomaly as the Chevrolet & GMC trucks are pure badge engineering.
Badge engineering is illegal in Germany
Think Lamborghini huracan and Audi R8, same engine, chassis, transmission but totally different driving feel, looks, tuning, etc
Same could be said about the new Supra and Z4
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Unions absolutely can be the reason for companies shutting down.
Unions are why GM laid off 4000 employees and middle management executives?
Got it. If you'd read my other post you'd see where I adjusted my statement.
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local companies are going down left and right lately [2019] 2 more went down this week. nemf trucking in business since 1977 and bieber bus lines in business since 1946.
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??? ??? ??? ??? WINNING ??? ??? ??? ??? first rule of owning a business. PAY YOURSELF WELL.
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??? ??? ??? ??? WINNING ??? ??? ??? ??? first rule of owning a business. PAY YOURSELF WELL.
And yet he's President and owns your small mind.
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Badge engineering is illegal in Germany
Think Lamborghini huracan and Audi R8, same engine, chassis, transmission but totally different driving feel, looks, tuning, etc
Same could be said about the new Supra and Z4
A little insight from across the pond if you care: Lambo today are laughed at, 99% here believe they're a joke since Audi purchased them.
Obviously the kind of customer they tend to attract is not helping...
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Companies that go under do it to themselves w/ piss poor MGT.
No Prez ever had anything to do w/ that. Look at the shit that tanked under "Ghey Barry-O", even libtard Boston Globe shits on him in many articles, and they loved the homo.
The economy. Obama took office during a painful recession and (with Congress’s help) made it even worse. Historically, the deeper a recession, the more robust the recovery that follows, but the economy’s rebound under Obama was the worst in seven decades. Annual GDP growth since the recession ended has averaged a feeble 2.1 percent, by far the puniest economic performance of any president since World War II. Obama spent more public funds on “stimulus” than all previous stimulus programs combined, with wretched, counterproductive results. On his watch, millions of additional Americans fell below the poverty line. The number of food stamp recipients soared. The national debt doubled to an incredible $20 trillion. According to the Pew Research Center, the share of young adults (18- to 34-year-olds) living in their parents’ homes is the highest it has been since the Great Depression.
Of course they blame Bush, etc.
Things come and go in waves, retrd Prez's can help it one way or another (minorly), but this homo was the worst,and blind libtards cannot see either side, they only see things one way.
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And yet he's President and owns your small mind.
sorry, i know you loves your hero more today than yesterday. i meant no disrespect. the orangeman sure knows how to do bankruptcies.
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sorry, i know you loves your hero more today than yesterday. i meant no disrespect. the orangeman sure knows how to do bankruptcies.
Say what you will about the guy, but there's no disputing Trump has overcome an insanely significant more amount of adversity the Krapernick ever will. One thing in common they have is the hardships they've encountered have been the result of their own decisions.
Trump admits his failures (mostly). Krapernick blames the world...the white straight world....in which he was adopted by a well-off and loving WHITE family (as described by Kap)
Trump went on from his failures, and got a pretty good job. POTUS.
Krap went on to be a fake-SJW, quasi-celeb, side show, and an unemployed QB
Trump > Krapernick
BTW...49ers are my team, and under Harbaugh I thought Kaepernick was going to win multiple SB's and change the qb position. I was definitely pro-Kap. Then he got benched, and pouted. When asked for the first time in the locker room by a beat report about his pouting as it gained attention, he was stuttering to remember the fake narrative he created in his head as he knew he'd have to answer for it. It's all bullshit with him bro. Nike putting Kaps face on that ad portraying him as a hero is a joke!
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Say what you will about the guy, but there's no disputing Trump has overcome an insanely significant more amount of adversity the Krapernick ever will. One thing in common they have is the hardships they've encountered have been the result of their own decisions.
Trump admits his failures (mostly). Krapernick blames the world...the white straight world....in which he was adopted by a well-off and loving WHITE family (as described by Kap)
Trump went on from his failures, and got a pretty good job. POTUS.
Krap went on to be a fake-SJW, quasi-celeb, side show, and an unemployed QB
Trump > Krapernick
BTW...49ers are my team, and under Harbaugh I thought Kaepernick was going to win multiple SB's and change the qb position. I was definitely pro-Kap. Then he got benched, and pouted. When asked for the first time in the locker room by a beat report about his pouting as it gained attention, he was stuttering to remember the fake narrative he created in his head as he knew he'd have to answer for it. It's all bullshit with him bro. Nike putting Kaps face on that ad portraying him as a hero is a joke!
say what you will about krapernitwit, he should have had a job this year as at least a backup on a lot of teams. the redskins signed a guy who hadn't thrown a pass in the league since 2011.
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say what you will about krapernitwit, he should have had a job this year as at least a backup on a lot of teams. the redskins signed a guy who hadn't thrown a pass in the league since 2011.
No he shouldn't have. The backup QB cannot be a headache for the organization. Baltimore was going to sign him a couple years ago until he blew that up by mocking the team owner as a slave master.
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No he shouldn't have. The backup QB cannot be a headache for the organization. Baltimore was going to sign him a couple years ago until he blew that up by mocking the team owner as a slave master.
so guys who beat on women and guys who kill dogs for fun and profit should be in the league but a guy who took a knee shouldn't be. okay then
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so guys who beat on women and guys who kill dogs for fun and profit should be in the league but a guy who took a knee shouldn't be. okay then
That dude should have been hung like the animal he is! I can see how his talents got him back into the league(though I vehemently disagree with, and was pissed about), but I am incapable of understanding how Fox has hired him as an on air game day talent. On top of being a complete POS human being, he can't fucking string a coherent sentence or thought together to save his life. How Clarissa, Tony G., Whinested, and his other co-workers didn't step in and say, "I'll quit if you put him behind the desk with me" blows my mind!
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say what you will about krapernitwit, he should have had a job this year as at least a backup on a lot of teams. the redskins signed a guy who hadn't thrown a pass in the league since 2011.
Funk, it's been posted all over numerous sites many of times, but I'll skip through all the pre-kneeling and crafting of his false narrative stuff, and just go from the following point:
-Colin chooses to opt out of multi-year and multi-million dollar contract with 49ers
-Colin plays ok, but the 49ers have a terrible season and Colin's kneeling has divided the nation on the NFL
-Feeling the pressure and scorn of fans Colin announces he will give $1 million to support causes that fight social injustices (he supposedly did, but we don't know which ones or who owns/runs them... a few shell corps/orgs possibly?)
-$1M is a lot of money, but it is 1/17th of what he made ON HIS FOOTBALL CONTRACT only (other multi-million dollar deals with Beats and Nike, and lower amts with many others)
-Offseason arrives. Colin having played just ok the previous year, and now a free agent is offered a $7M+ per year deal to start for the Denver Broncos. Colin turns it down
-Ravens decide to sign Colin, and announce they are working on a deal
-Colins leftist cray-cray hatefilled racist gf takes to twitter and posts a pic of Ray Lewis hugging Coach/Team Owner (can't recall which it was...all those rich white guys look alike)
above a picture of a clip from a movie where a slave his hugging his owner/master
-Ravens decide not to sign Colin
-Colin files collusion case against NFL
-Seattle Seahawks bring Colin in for workout. He does well. During negotiations Colin demands he be allowed to compete with RUSSELL WILSON for starting job (a top 5 qb consistently, a SB winner, and a qb that defeated the 49ers in the playoffs led by Colin)...Seattle says GTFOH
-Colin continues to cry "collusion" and "I can't get a job playing footbal"
-Johnny Manziel goes to CFL to prove himself
-Colin continues to cry "collusion" and "I can't get a job playing footbal"
-Washington Redskins starting qb Alex Smith suffers what appears to be career ending injury (this is ironic as Colin replaced Alex as the 49ers starter)
-Colin's agent/lawyer/people put out word that Colin is in football shape, throwing daily, and ready to go. But surely SJW Colin would never consider playing for a team with such a "racist" and controversial name as the Redskins, right?
-Colin's agent/lawyer/people put out word Colin wants to play football and would in fact play for the Redskins......wait what???
-AAF Football begins. PFL is getting close and has announced signings, CFL is more than willing to sign Colin (he'd be the best qb and biggest draw in the league), XFL has expressed interest in signing Colin.
-Colin has chosen not to sign or workout for any AAF, CFL, XFL, PFL, or even an Arena Football team (laugh, but it was good enough for HOF'er Kurt Warner)
-Poor Colin it turns out is still under contract with Nike for millions
-Colin's " " gf (you get the point and see the pattern by now) blasts Big Boi and Travis Scott and GLADYS freakin KNIGHT for agreeing to perform at SB
-Nike (who endorses Colin and pays him well for .....well, doing nothing) is the provider of every NFL uniform worn by every player in the SB
-Colin and his " " gf say nothing about Nike and the SB (she has some brains it seems)
It's not as simple as Colin's better than those other guys Funk. He certainly is. Colin does not want to play football. Colin wants to be a celebrity.
I follow NFL quite a bit. Check PFT daily at least 2-3x. This is only part of the real truth about Kaepernick. You still think he should/wants to be in the NFL?
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so guys who beat on women and guys who kill dogs for fun and profit should be in the league but a guy who took a knee shouldn't be. okay then
When did I say they should be? I said he shouldn't be.
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When did I say they should be? I said he shouldn't be.
i'm just saying kapernick should have gotten a shot before josh johnson who's record was 0 and 5 as a starter and he didn't throw a pass in 7 years [2011].
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Funk, it's been posted all over numerous sites many of times, but I'll skip through all the pre-kneeling and crafting of his false narrative stuff, and just go from the following point:
-Colin chooses to opt out of multi-year and multi-million dollar contract with 49ers
-Colin plays ok, but the 49ers have a terrible season and Colin's kneeling has divided the nation on the NFL
-Feeling the pressure and scorn of fans Colin announces he will give $1 million to support causes that fight social injustices (he supposedly did, but we don't know which ones or who owns/runs them... a few shell corps/orgs possibly?)
-$1M is a lot of money, but it is 1/17th of what he made ON HIS FOOTBALL CONTRACT only (other multi-million dollar deals with Beats and Nike, and lower amts with many others)
-Offseason arrives. Colin having played just ok the previous year, and now a free agent is offered a $7M+ per year deal to start for the Denver Broncos. Colin turns it down
-Ravens decide to sign Colin, and announce they are working on a deal
-Colins leftist cray-cray hatefilled racist gf takes to twitter and posts a pic of Ray Lewis hugging Coach/Team Owner (can't recall which it was...all those rich white guys look alike)
above a picture of a clip from a movie where a slave his hugging his owner/master
-Ravens decide not to sign Colin
-Colin files collusion case against NFL
-Seattle Seahawks bring Colin in for workout. He does well. During negotiations Colin demands he be allowed to compete with RUSSELL WILSON for starting job (a top 5 qb consistently, a SB winner, and a qb that defeated the 49ers in the playoffs led by Colin)...Seattle says GTFOH
-Colin continues to cry "collusion" and "I can't get a job playing footbal"
-Johnny Manziel goes to CFL to prove himself
-Colin continues to cry "collusion" and "I can't get a job playing footbal"
-Washington Redskins starting qb Alex Smith suffers what appears to be career ending injury (this is ironic as Colin replaced Alex as the 49ers starter)
-Colin's agent/lawyer/people put out word that Colin is in football shape, throwing daily, and ready to go. But surely SJW Colin would never consider playing for a team with such a "racist" and controversial name as the Redskins, right?
-Colin's agent/lawyer/people put out word Colin wants to play football and would in fact play for the Redskins......wait what???
-AAF Football begins. PFL is getting close and has announced signings, CFL is more than willing to sign Colin (he'd be the best qb and biggest draw in the league), XFL has expressed interest in signing Colin.
-Colin has chosen not to sign or workout for any AAF, CFL, XFL, PFL, or even an Arena Football team (laugh, but it was good enough for HOF'er Kurt Warner)
-Poor Colin it turns out is still under contract with Nike for millions
-Colin's " " gf (you get the point and see the pattern by now) blasts Big Boi and Travis Scott and GLADYS freakin KNIGHT for agreeing to perform at SB
-Nike (who endorses Colin and pays him well for .....well, doing nothing) is the provider of every NFL uniform worn by every player in the SB
-Colin and his " " gf say nothing about Nike and the SB (she has some brains it seems)
It's not as simple as Colin's better than those other guys Funk. He certainly is. Colin does not want to play football. Colin wants to be a celebrity.
I follow NFL quite a bit. Check PFT daily at least 2-3x. This is only part of the real truth about Kaepernick. You still think he should/wants to be in the NFL?
thanks good response, i see your point. a lot of guys are deciding not to play rather than risk permanent brain injuries. maybe this is a ploy to get max dollars without having to actually take the field. who knows ? i watched the HBO special on nick buoniconti it was very eye opening and sad. but in the end no one forces you to play the game.
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i'm just saying kapernick should have gotten a shot before josh johnson who's record was 0 and 5 as a starter and he didn't throw a pass in 7 years [2011].
Again he had a chance with the Ravens and fucked it up. A backup can't talk shit about the owner and expect to not get canned. Josh Johnson was never a problem for anyone.
Kap also had interest from CFL teams and declined. Today he won a bunch of cash in the NFL settlement so it won't matter anyway.
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thanks good response, i see your point. a lot of guys are deciding not to play rather than risk permanent brain injuries. maybe this is a ploy to get max dollars without having to actually take the field. who knows ? i watched the HBO special on nick buoniconti it was very eye opening and sad. but in the end no one forces you to play the game.
What happened to Buoniconti's son was far worse than what happened to him. He should feel lucky he only got brain damaged.
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Again he had a chance with the Ravens and fucked it up. A backup can't talk shit about the owner and expect to not get canned. Josh Johnson was never a problem for anyone.
Kap also had interest from CFL teams and declined. Today he won a bunch of cash in the NFL settlement so it won't matter anyway.
Whoa...what?
.....Off to check PFT
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That dude should have been hung like the animal he is! I can see how his talents got him back into the league(though I vehemently disagree with, and was pissed about), but I am incapable of understanding how Fox has hired him as an on air game day talent. On top of being a complete POS human being, he can't fucking string a coherent sentence or thought together to save his life. How Clarissa, Tony G., Whinested, and his other co-workers didn't step in and say, "I'll quit if you put him behind the desk with me" blows my mind!
i agree vick the scumbag even got a good citizenship award from the eagles [my favorite team] if you can believe that.
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Again he had a chance with the Ravens and fucked it up. A backup can't talk shit about the owner and expect to not get canned. Josh Johnson was never a problem for anyone.
Kap also had interest from CFL teams and declined. Today he won a bunch of cash in the NFL settlement so it won't matter anyway.
it's funny we picked today to get into this discussion as the case finally was settled today.
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thanks good response, i see your point. a lot of guys are deciding not to play rather than risk permanent brain injuries. maybe this is a ploy to get max dollars without having to actually take the field. who knows ? i watched the HBO special on nick buoniconti it was very eye opening and sad. but in the end no one forces you to play the game.
So you read that? That's only a portion of things, and the question to you remains: Do you still think that he should be in the NFL? What rational would be behind any owner/team/fan wanting him on board?
He hasn't played in over 2 yrs, and his last two were very average. He has spit in the face of 3 teams that offered/willing to offer him a job. He had his team put out word that he'd be willing to play for the team that has the most controversial, and racist (according to everyone NOT native american) team in all of sports. He (coward does all his talking through his gf's Twitter) shit all over every black performer at the SB, yet he takes money from the company that provides uniforms for every NFL team in every game played and says not one word about Nike boycotting the NFL.
He's a fraud bro!
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I'm offended by the term "white collar workers". What about the collars of color?
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So you read that? That's only a portion of things, and the question to you remains: Do you still think that he should be in the NFL? What rational would be behind any owner/team/fan wanting him on board?
He hasn't played in over 2 yrs, and his last two were very average. He has spit in the face of 3 teams that offered/willing to offer him a job. He had his team put out word that he'd be willing to play for the team that has the most controversial, and racist (according to everyone NOT native american) team in all of sports. He (coward does all his talking through his gf's Twitter) shit all over every black performer at the SB, yet he takes money from the company that provides uniforms for every NFL team in every game played and says not one word about Nike boycotting the NFL.
He's a fraud bro!
i agree with you. i don't think he actually wanted to play and now he got nike and nfl money to tide him over post football. like trump would say smart.
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Whoa...what?
.....Off to check PFT
Saw it on another forum:
https://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/players-talk/3526055-nfl-settles-kap-they-never-wanted-going-discovery.html
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No he shouldn't have. The backup QB cannot be a headache for the organization. Baltimore was going to sign him a couple years ago until he blew that up by mocking the team owner as a slave master.
Wasn't that his GF and wasnt it after the owner publicly asked for prayer in trying to decide whether or not to sign ck?
Answer: yes to both of these.
That said I agree the back up cannot be a distraction.
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Funk, it's been posted all over numerous sites many of times, but I'll skip through all the pre-kneeling and crafting of his false narrative stuff, and just go from the following point:
-Colin chooses to opt out of multi-year and multi-million dollar contract with 49ers
-Colin plays ok, but the 49ers have a terrible season and Colin's kneeling has divided the nation on the NFL
-Feeling the pressure and scorn of fans Colin announces he will give $1 million to support causes that fight social injustices (he supposedly did, but we don't know which ones or who owns/runs them... a few shell corps/orgs possibly?)
-$1M is a lot of money, but it is 1/17th of what he made ON HIS FOOTBALL CONTRACT only (other multi-million dollar deals with Beats and Nike, and lower amts with many others)
-Offseason arrives. [b]Colin having played just ok the previous year, and now a free agent is offered a $7M+ per year deal to start for the Denver Broncos. Colin turns it down[/b] Not true. CK needed to give up $20 million guaranteed money in his contract in order to get the $7 million offer that was NOT guaranteed after year 1.
-Ravens decide to sign Colin, and announce they are working on a deal
-Colins leftist cray-cray hatefilled racist gf takes to twitter and posts a pic of Ray Lewis hugging Coach/Team Owner (can't recall which it was...all those rich white guys look alike)
above a picture of a clip from a movie where a slave his hugging his owner/master[/s]
Baltimore wasnt going to sign him until the had public approval. After it was determined the fans were against it the talks cooled and then his gf posted the django pic.
-Ravens decide not to sign Colin
-Colin files collusion case against NFL
-Seattle Seahawks bring Colin in for workout. He does well. During negotiations Colin demands he be allowed to compete with RUSSELL WILSON for starting job (a top 5 qb consistently, a SB winner, and a qb that defeated the 49ers in the playoffs led by Colin)...Seattle says GTFOH
-Colin continues to cry "collusion" and "I can't get a job playing footbal"
-Johnny Manziel goes to CFL to prove himself
-Colin continues to cry "collusion" and "I can't get a job playing footbal"
-Washington Redskins starting qb Alex Smith suffers what appears to be career ending injury (this is ironic as Colin replaced Alex as the 49ers starter)
-Colin's agent/lawyer/people put out word that Colin is in football shape, throwing daily, and ready to go. But surely SJW Colin would never consider playing for a team with such a "racist" and controversial name as the Redskins, right?
-Colin's agent/lawyer/people put out word Colin wants to play football and would in fact play for the Redskins......wait what???
-AAF Football begins. PFL is getting close and has announced signings, CFL is more than willing to sign Colin (he'd be the best qb and biggest draw in the league), XFL has expressed interest in signing Colin.
-Colin has chosen not to sign or workout for any AAF, CFL, XFL, PFL, or even an Arena Football team (laugh, but it was good enough for HOF'er Kurt Warner)
-Poor Colin it turns out is still under contract with Nike for millions
-Colin's " " gf (you get the point and see the pattern by now) blasts Big Boi and Travis Scott and GLADYS freakin KNIGHT for agreeing to perform at SB
-Nike (who endorses Colin and pays him well for .....well, doing nothing) is the provider of every NFL uniform worn by every player in the SB
-Colin and his " " gf say nothing about Nike and the SB (she has some brains it seems)
It's not as simple as Colin's better than those other guys Funk. He certainly is. Colin does not want to play football. Colin wants to be a celebrity.
I follow NFL quite a bit. Check PFT daily at least 2-3x. This is only part of the real truth about Kaepernick. You still think he should/wants to be in the NFL?
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From everything I've read he'd asked the 49ers to be able to opt out so he could be a free agent, and have control of where he went. 49ers obliged. Kinda not true that as an individual he played "ok"....td/ints he did really well....passing and leading his team to victory not so much. Denver did offer him $7mil and he turned it down thinking 49ers would want him back. They did not.
Ravens were going to sign him. Maybe I'm wrong that they were in negotiations when Nessa sent out that stupid tweet, but they were going to sign him and fans said yes to it. Ray Lewis went to bat for him, and his gf shit all over it....pretty sure Kap was well aware of that.
If you were an NFL star and were trying to get back into the league, and Ray Lewis had your back....would you not dump that crazy bitch for costing you the opportunity if it was her doing unbeknownst to you? No pussy is that good....especially when you're a young rich celebrity athlete who can pull tail left and right.
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it's funny we picked today to get into this discussion as the case finally was settled today.
Crazy. I had to go to the dr. for my shot shortly after we started discussing. I read about it on PFT and NFL.com. Both were pretty much the same info.
Well, no need to debate him anymore. If he wants to play there's plenty of places he can go, and if he does well an NFL team will sign him. If we never hear from him again, don't see him making some massive donations or a career of SJW causes, or hanging with celebs from here on out.....we know he was full of shit, and his "efforts" to get back in the league were just about creating the illusion he was still ready and able to play while the case played out.
I enjoyed watching him play when Harbaugh was coaching the team. Hopefully, I'm wrong about him and he goes on to do great things for causes he believes in. There is no reason for him to not voice his own opinions (except regarding the lawsuit obviously) from here on out. Needs to keep his woman in check no matter what.
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From everything I've read he'd asked the 49ers to be able to opt out so he could be a free agent, and have control of where he went. 49ers obliged. Kinda not true that as an individual he played "ok"....td/ints he did really well....passing and leading his team to victory not so much. Denver did offer him $7mil and he turned it down thinking 49ers would want him back. They did not.
Ravens were going to sign him. Maybe I'm wrong that they were in negotiations when Nessa sent out that stupid tweet, but they were going to sign him and fans said yes to it. Ray Lewis went to bat for him, and his gf shit all over it....pretty sure Kap was well aware of that.
If you were an NFL star and were trying to get back into the league, and Ray Lewis had your back....would you not dump that crazy bitch for costing you the opportunity if it was her doing unbeknownst to you? No pussy is that good....especially when you're a young rich celebrity athlete who can pull tail left and right.
You're 100% correct he did opt out. But the Broncos offer came while he was still under contract for the last season of the $20 million. This was when he was injured and still rehabbing. He wasn't healthy enough to play at the beginning of the year and Chip Kelly named Blane Gabbert the starter.
Elway wanted CK to waiver his $20 million guaranteed and play for $7m. CK declined that offer.
You may also be right about the Ravens, but his GF sent the tweet August 3rd 2017. Bisciotti publicly asked for prayer on making the CK decision July 30th. It's safe to assume the Ravens told Collin they weren't signing him somewhere between the 30th and the 3rd hence the tweet.
The GF made Ray Lewis look like the house slave, implying Ray was working against the signing, but I (we) dont know anything for sure. After the tweet was public Ray said the Ravens were going to sign CK. I think that's Ray getting back at CK and the GF, after the decision had been made that they weren't signing him.
I dont think having the backing of Lewis mattered much, he was retired at that point and working at ESPN. Players always liked and respected Kaepernick so the issue wasnt a locker room one. I'm sure John Harbaugh was more influential than anything. Being CK's former coach and the brother of the current coach was probably a key.
That said his girlfriend is political nightmare and I would have dumped her BUT she shouldn't be so polarizing that he wouldn't get signed.
Being opinionated is more damaging than beating women it seems.
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Crazy. I had to go to the dr. for my shot shortly after we started discussing. I read about it on PFT and NFL.com. Both were pretty much the same info.
Well, no need to debate him anymore. If he wants to play there's plenty of places he can go, and if he does well an NFL team will sign him. If we never hear from him again, don't see him making some massive donations or a career of SJW causes, or hanging with celebs from here on out.....we know he was full of shit, and his "efforts" to get back in the league were just about creating the illusion he was still ready and able to play while the case played out.
I enjoyed watching him play when Harbaugh was coaching the team. Hopefully, I'm wrong about him and he goes on to do great things for causes he believes in. There is no reason for him to not voice his own opinions (except regarding the lawsuit obviously) from here on out. Needs to keep his woman in check no matter what.
Agreed all around.
Kaepernick has made himself more of a household than if he had played.
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You're 100% correct he did opt out. But the Broncos offer came while he was still under contract for the last season of the $20 million. This was when he was injured and still rehabbing. He wasn't healthy enough to play at the beginning of the year and Chip Kelly named Blane Gabbert the starter.
Elway wanted CK to waiver his $20 million guaranteed and play for $7m. CK declined that offer.
You may also be right about the Ravens, but his GF sent the tweet August 3rd 2017. Bisciotti publicly asked for prayer on making the CK decision July 30th. It's safe to assume the Ravens told Collin they weren't signing him somewhere between the 30th and the 3rd hence the tweet.
The GF made Ray Lewis look like the house slave, implying Ray was working against the signing, but I (we) dont know anything for sure. After the tweet was public Ray said the Ravens were going to sign CK. I think that's Ray getting back at CK and the GF, after the decision had been made that they weren't signing him.
I dont think having the backing of Lewis mattered much, he was retired at that point and working at ESPN. Players always liked and respected Kaepernick so the issue wasnt a locker room one. I'm sure John Harbaugh was more influential than anything. Being CK's former coach and the brother of the current coach was probably a key.
That said his girlfriend is political nightmare and I would have dumped her BUT she shouldn't be so polarizing that he wouldn't get signed.
Being opinionated is more damaging than beating women it seems.
After reading your part about the 49ers and Broncos, I do remember it being more complicated than what I made it out to be. I do recall it being more like you posted after reading that.
I don't believe any decision was made before that Tweet from his gf. PFT was giving updates on talks/rumors/leaks....whatever we want to call them regularly that indicated it was a go...until the slave implication Tweet. The Owner's prayer tweet was just him acknowledging the fans mostly supported the rumored signing and in my eyes one last indirect "polling" attempt if you will, that's my opinion and how I saw it at least. Was Ray Lewis pissed off? Fuck yeah! Who wouldn't be after going to bat for someone not only to the team, owner, and fans, but to the national viewers that watched him "preach". The thing with Kap is that he's stayed very quiet, and while doing so that crazy bitch is spewing hate and doing dumb shit that's scaring away teams from signing him. The commonly held belief was that CK was either fine with it or behind it himself. If he really wanted to play he could have checked her shit, dumped her, apologized and made it clear on his own Twitter those were not his beliefs, and best option would have been to call Biscoitti and Lewis to apologize, clear things up, confirm his desire to be a Raven, and assure them that would never happen again. He didn't. Ray got his revenge. Deservedly so.
And yeah, you are right about the Harbaugh brothers, but Ray planted the seed and got things started. John called Jim to get his take, and Jim is on record about the call and the fact that he was totally behind Kap 100% and told his brother the Ravens should go for it....always has been on his side. He moved into the second round to get him, because he liked him so much in college and his workout, and he benched Alex for Kap despite Alex doing really well the year before, and getting them nearly into the SB.
Seems we both stayed NFL fans despite our disgust with the kneeling trend. Ironically, our discussion of Kap has derailed this thread now as much as he did his NFL career. ;D
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After reading your part about the 49ers and Broncos, I do remember it being more complicated than what I made it out to be. I do recall it being more like you posted after reading that.
I don't believe any decision was made before that Tweet from his gf. PFT was giving updates on talks/rumors/leaks....whatever we want to call them regularly that indicated it was a go...until the slave implication Tweet. The Owner's prayer tweet was just him acknowledging the fans mostly supported the rumored signing and in my eyes one last indirect "polling" attempt if you will, that's my opinion and how I saw it at least. Was Ray Lewis pissed off? Fuck yeah! Who wouldn't be after going to bat for someone not only to the team, owner, and fans, but to the national viewers that watched him "preach". The thing with Kap is that he's stayed very quiet, and while doing so that crazy bitch is spewing hate and doing dumb shit that's scaring away teams from signing him. The commonly held belief was that CK was either fine with it or behind it himself. If he really wanted to play he could have checked her shit, dumped her, apologized and made it clear on his own Twitter those were not his beliefs, and best option would have been to call Biscoitti and Lewis to apologize, clear things up, confirm his desire to be a Raven, and assure them that would never happen again. He didn't. Ray got his revenge. Deservedly so.
And yeah, you are right about the Harbaugh brothers, but Ray planted the seed and got things started. John called Jim to get his take, and Jim is on record about the call and the fact that he was totally behind Kap 100% and told his brother the Ravens should go for it....always has been on his side. He moved into the second round to get him, because he liked him so much in college and his workout, and he benched Alex for Kap despite Alex doing really well the year before, and getting them nearly into the SB.
Seems we both stayed NFL fans despite our disgust with the kneeling trend. Ironically, our discussion of Kap has derailed this thread now as much as he did his NFL career. ;D
Well Kaepernicks salary (if hes signed) is the equivalent of 4000 GM employee salaries. So we kinda stayed on topic.
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Well Kaepernicks salary (if hes signed) is the equivalent of 4000 GM employee salaries. So we kinda stayed on topic.
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LOL!
You are a positive thinker type Dave D. 8)
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A little insight from across the pond if you care: Lambo today are laughed at, 99% here believe they're a joke since Audi purchased them.
Obviously the kind of customer they tend to attract is not helping...
To be fair Audi made lambos more “reliable” and profiting again
But I understand it’s not “Italian” anymore in a sense ;D
The sad part is seeing all these German/Italian cars being targeted and owned by filthy Arabs/pakis, middle eastern douchebags
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don't derail the thread talking about Gaypernick. Sink the GM libtards!