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Rate Joe Weider's importance regarding Arnold's success on a scale of 1 - 5.
1 = Of no imprtance. Joe was of definitely not important.
5 = Extreme inportance. Arnold could not have done it without Joe..
AND .....
Is/was Arnold Over-rated.
1 = Yes, he has been definitely overated.
2 = Arnold was sorta over-ratred.
3 = Arnold was definitely not overrated.
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nobody couldve done anything without joe.
without the weiders bodybuilding would be in the basement
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Arnold was destined for success no matter what. Without Weider it would have taken much longer as Joe provided opportunities for bbers to an extent no one else could or was willing. There would still be bbing if there was no Weider but hard to say to what extent.
As a bber Arnold was not overrated. He was head and shoulders above the rest. As a human being, he was vastly underrated. He far transcended bbing as no one else could.
Who could have predicted (other than Arnold) how great and successful he would be? Known and admired across the entire world.
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How important was Arnold for Joe's success?
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Rate Joe Weider's importance regarding Arnold's success on a scale of 1 - 5.
1 = Of no imprtance. Joe was of definitely not important.
5 = Extreme inportance. Arnold could not have done it without Joe..
AND .....
Is/was Arnold Over-rated.
1 = Yes, he has been definitely overated.
2 = Arnold was sorta over-ratred.
3 = Arnold was definitely not overrated.
4- Arnold would have made it either way, as his drive was too immense. Joe was equally determined though, and was a catalyst for Arnold and the IFBB as we know it. Flip the two people around, and I give it a 4 as well for the same reasons.
3- Not for his time, and what he meant to the growth of the sport. Not over-rated in the least when looked at that way IMO. He's a legend for a reason.
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Pellius and Lurker, I think we were all typing at the same time. :P
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arnold was only mildly successful.
he never did have a singing career. didn't dance. didn't direct.
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Rate Joe Weider's importance regarding Arnold's success on a scale of 1 - 5.
1 = Of no imprtance. Joe was of definitely not important.
5 = Extreme inportance. Arnold could not have done it without Joe..
AND .....
Is/was Arnold Over-rated.
1 = Yes, he has been definitely overated.
2 = Arnold was sorta over-ratred.
3 = Arnold was definitely not overrated.
Joe Weider was very important for bodybuilding therefor it stands to reason that he was also very important for Arnold in that he provided the opportunity for him to succeed in bodybuilding. The Mr. Olympia gained stature because of Arnold's success. To be honest, this was a highly symbiotic relationship and both men benefitted from one another. I still think that Joe gave Haney 8 wins to try and teach Arnold a lesson in "humility". Stupid Joe. Later Coleman equaled Haney but the truth of the matter is neither of them are the Oak and will forever remain in the shadow of his career.
Arnold is far from overrated as far as bodybuilding is concerned. He remains the best ever. Just because Coleman and Haney have more doorstops doesn't make them better. Those two are nothing compared to the Oak, especially so Coleman. That Arnold went beyond bodybuilding is testimony to not only his drive to succeed but also to his charisma. His turn as Governor and his fall from Conservatism shows that he's just another Zelig, i.e., a human chameleon that will change his appearance to suit his ego driven wants. Coleman is a slobbering idiot and Haney a terminally "nicest guy around". And Heath? Fuck that idiot.
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arnold was no bruce lee thats for sure.
bruce lee would've kicked arnolds ass.
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Joe Weider was very important for bodybuilding therefor it stands to reason that he was also very important for Arnold in that he provided the opportunity for him to succeed in bodybuilding. The Mr. Olympia gained stature because of Arnold's success. To be honest, this was a highly symbiotic relationship and both men benefitted from one another. I still think that Joe gave Haney 8 wins to try and teach Arnold a lesson in "humility". Stupid Joe. Later Coleman equaled Haney but the truth of the matter is neither of them are the Oak and will forever remain in the shadow of his career.
Arnold is far from overrated as far as bodybuilding is concerned. He remains the best ever. Just because Coleman and Haney have more doorstops doesn't make them better. Those two are nothing compared to the Oak, especially so Coleman. That Arnold went beyond bodybuilding is testimony to not only his drive to succeed but also to his charisma. His turn as Governor and his fall from Conservatism shows that he's just another Zelig, i.e., a human chameleon that will change his appearance to suit his ego driven wants. Coleman is a slobbering idiot and Haney a terminally "nicest guy around". And Heath? Fuck that idiot.
Funny how you give me shit for being wordy, yet two paragraphs later you wrote what I said in 3 lines. ;D Seriously though, we agree more than we disagree often. I do disagree with you about Coleman....not about his speaking, but that he was nothing compared to Arnold when purely thinking in terms of bbing. They both took the game to a new level.
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ronnies supplement line is far more succesful than arnolds supplement line.
arnold simply sucks at marketing. which is kinda weird because i thought he had the drive etc do accomplish anything...
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Funny how you give me shit for being wordy, yet two paragraphs later you wrote what I said in 3 lines. ;D Seriously though, we agree more than we disagree often. I do disagree with you about Coleman....not about his speaking, but that he was nothing compared to Arnold when purely thinking in terms of bbing. They both took the game to a new level.
I don't give shit for being "wordy". If I give you shit, it's because you're a typist. And now because you "think" Coleman took bodybuilding to "a new level".
If by that you mean subterranean, then I agree. He's a pile of crap and deserves what is happening to him.
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ronnies supplement line is far more succesful than arnolds supplement line.
arnold simply sucks at marketing. which is kinda weird because i thought he had the drive etc do accomplish anything...
With all due respect...Regarding Coleman's supplement line? BFD and FTN, sir.
Coleman is a fucking waste of chemicals. Coleman's life is similar to that of Charlie's in "Flowers for Algernon". Except Coleman has never been even remotely intelligent but instead his transformation is entirely physical. And now that is fast disappearing. Good riddance.
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I don't give shit for being "wordy". If I give you shit, it's because you're a typist. And now because you "think" Coleman took bodybuilding to "a new level".
If by that you mean subterranean, then I agree. He's a pile of crap and deserves what is happening to him.
It's GB, and all in fun.
I don't think he gave us the ideal physique, but he brought something no one ever thought they'd see. He was an extreme mash-up of size, v-taper, vascularity, and shredded all in one. Even though he didn't do movies like Arnold, and is even harder to understand; more people outside of bbing know who he is compared to Haney, Heath, or Zane. Yeah Buddy!!!
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Arnold will go down as the best bodybuilder of all time. He went on to be the highest paid movie star for a number of years. He was the Governor of California. That's an incredible career. The bodybuilders of today look like inflated soft water bags with big guts. Look at Arnold in 73 and 74. He was huge with a small waist. In 75 he was smaller but ripped to the bone. No bodybuilder had the career that he had. He married a Kennedy and that's American royalty.
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Essentially, Joe and Arnold's coming together (no homo) set themselves, their families, and their families' families up for a long time. I don't think either one of them ever truly believed they would ultimately achieve what they did. With or without each other.
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Like him or hate him Arnold’s physique is still the best without question, is he a great human being though?
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"Arnold, Paul and the Rewards of Crime
Arnold and Paul Maxwell Graham have been buddies for years. Two
days after Arnie got his first apartment in LA, Arnie invited a writer to
his place to see the proof that the Weiders had rigged the contest in
which Frank Zane had beaten him. Paul popped out of the bedroom just
after their arrival wearing only his underpants. Arnold complained that
all the contestants had to wear a medallion out on stage with Zane’s
picture on it. The writer had to admit it was Frank’s body on the
medallion right down to the vein on his arm. The writer however,
concluded from looking at the pictures, that Zane deserved to win
because, “Arnold was just plain fat”. Arnold could only see that he was
bigger than Zane.
With in months, Arnie was tearing down the highway with Paul in
pursuit. A squeal of brakes, a crash, and a dazed Arnie hauls himself out
of the car. Paul announces to the witnesses that he is taking Arnold to
the hospital, and hurriedly leaves the scene of the accident. Shortly
after, the police arrived and identified the car as a stolen vehicle.
According to Bill Dreke, Arnold’s long time buddy, several days later our
Germanic Super Hero and Paul fled to Hawaii. A federal warrant was issued
for Paul’s arrest on 1/29/69.
In Honolulu Hawaii, FBI agent Edwin Miller and his partner flanked
the motel door, and then with a kick, the door flies open. There stands
Paul Graham posing stark naked for Arnie who is laying on the bed wearing
only his underpants. Paul and Arnie are cuffed and taken out of the room.
Our usually cool under pressure hero is very upset, the feds refuse to
let him take his little blue pills with him. According to agent Miller,
the pills were found to be the anabolic steroid, Dianabol. For Gods sake
Arnold, tell us that beautiful body was only the result of hard work,
determination and your humble, but strict upbringing.
In the lock up, Paul admitted everything, but swore that Arnold
had no knowledge of the car being stolen. The FBI being only interested
in the Federal Laws that were violated did not press the issue, because
this was up to the state of California. On Feb. 11, 1969 Paul asked for
and received a Rule 20. This Rule 20 transferred the case #3285cd to
Hawaii Federal Court from the Central District of California for the sole
purpose of pleading guilty. The Grand Jury indictment was filed Feb. 5,
1969, charging Paul with 18 U. S. C. #2312, Foreign Transportation
of=Stolen Motor Vehicle. The indictment charged that on or about December
23, 1968, Paul shipped a 1965 Mustang and an 1966 Mustang to Sydney,
Australia. On April 10, 1969 Paul was sentenced to 3 years, and on April
25, 1969 was delivered to Terminal Island , California. On Feb. 16, 1971
after less that 2 years, Paul Maxwell Graham was paroled, and deported to
Australia. Under U. S. Law Paul is not allowed to return to the U. S. But
that has not stopped him. I personally was on the same flight from Las
Vegas with Paul and the Australian body building team in 1984.
California, feeling that Arnold was to small a fish to go to the
expense of extraditing from Hawaii, did not pursue any State charges
against him, knowing that Paul would swear that Arnie did not know the car
was stolen. Bill Dreke claims, Arnold not only knew, but was the look
out for the thief’s.
Arnold visited Paul regularly and provided money to make his life
comfortable. In the movie “Pumping Iron” we see Arnold posing there for
the inmates, but they never explained how Arnie became connected with the
joint. One inmate even asked for a kiss. I can hear the Church Lady
saying “ Isn’t that special”.
After Paul got out of prison he was rewarded by the Weider
brothers for protecting Arnold, by being given the Weider distributorship
and from the IFBB a position as Vice President in charge of Oceania
(Australia, New Zealand, and a bunch of Islands in the south pacific). In
the two years that Paul was in jail, Joe Weider had made Arnie the center
piece of his body building magazines. They had to protect their
investment from scandal. Crime really did pay, and pay big. In 1980
Arnold gave the Mr. Olympia Contest to Paul to Promote. This contest is a
story in itself and will come later. Of course Ben Weider will tell you
that he did not know of his prison record until I told him, but Paul
still rules Body Building in Australia.
If you want a gander at Paul rent “The Pirate Movie”, he is the aging
flabby body builder in the pirate crew.
On the plane coming back from Las Vegas, I found myself surrounded by the
Australian team in coach class. Paul was traveling first class. I asked
them if Paul was as big a crook in Australia as we hear he is. Suddenly I
had four large hands clamped across my mouth with a whispered “Yes , but
shut up he might hear you”. I couldn’t believe these big guys were that
afraid of that old man. After we got to LA they called me from there
Hotel and I took them on a tour of Hollywood. Boy did I get an ear full
of how Paul claims that Arnold owes him his career because he kept his
mouth shut and took the rap alone."
Lacy H. Rich, Jr. (213) 851-6585
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As I said just a few days ago, whenever Basile inserts himself into a thread everybody starts shaking their heads and the collective groans can almost be heard through the computer screen.
Everybody is shady and on the take except you. Everyone else had some corrupt angle they used to dupe everybody else and come out ahead. That's your excuse for being such an abject failure in life.
Just an angry, bitter, fat, old man.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=504885.0;attach=541135;image)
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Joe helped Arnold and vice versa. Arnold was a small town kid with 2 dimes to rub together. All he had was charisma, confidence, chest, back and arms. Weider had cash, investments and businesses. Weider taught Arnold plenty on getting rich and growing the wealth. At the time before the internet, the guys running the media were keys to public acceptance. Today Arnold won't need to go the bodybuilding route or Weider. He could do it all with social media.
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As I said just a few days ago, whenever Basile inserts himself into a thread everybody starts shaking their heads and the collective groans can almost be heard through the computer screen.
Everybody is shady and on the take except you. Everyone else had some corrupt angle they used to dupe everybody else and come out ahead. That's your excuse for being such an abject failure in life.
Just an angry, bitter, fat, old man.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=504885.0;attach=541135;image)
+ JELOUS old Cornuto , his horns use to be larger than horns on Canadian moose's head ;)
Mr.Paul Graham (& family) own great gyms , where is Safety Fats gym ;D
Paul Graham , Rocco Oppedisano & Tony Doherty = Australian bodybuilding
Nobody ever give a f....... about Safety Fat & his never ending BS.
AGAIN: go to Youtube - Grandfather of Australian bodybuilding (3 episodes of Tony's Muscle TV)
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Arnold arrived in LA in October 1968. I was there, too. Joe brought him to the states and gave him a job in the warehouse shifting pallets around. No way Arnold was going to do that.
He preferred to train then hang around the beach at Venice. Then go eat all you can at one of the local diners.
Joe Gold told Arnold not to bother owning a gym. He figured you couldn't make much in the industry. So he encouraged Arnold to buy real estate. By 1974 Arnold was a millionaire.
Yes, we all underestimated how intelligent and determined he was. How he made it in Hollywood is one of the all-time success stories. He would go to auditions and they would laugh
at him. Ordinary mortals would have given up. Not Arnold. Every criticism and defeat only motivated him to try harder. He got lucky, too, when they cast him as the Terminator.
About Joe and Arnold. Well, the truth is white guys on the covers of his magazines sold more copies. Lots of Arnold covers but few Sergio ones. There you are.
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+ JELOUS old Cornuto , his horns use to be larger than horns on Canadian moose's head ;)
Mr.Paul Graham (& family) own great gyms , where is Safety Fats gym ;D
Paul Graham , Rocco Oppedisano & Tony Doherty = Australian bodybuilding
Nobody ever give a f....... about Safety Fat & his never ending BS.
AGAIN: go to Youtube - Grandfather of Australian bodybuilding (3 episodes of Tony's Muscle TV)
I don't know Rocco. I wouldn't call him the Grandfather of Australian bodybuilding.
Makes me wonder who is paying you to keep posting in my threads and others trying to embarrass me.
Someone is wasting their money on you. They probably put the expenses paid to you under "stooge"!
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Rate Joe Weider's importance regarding Arnold's success on a scale of 1 - 5.
1 = Of no imprtance. Joe was of definitely not important.
5 = Extreme inportance. Arnold could not have done it without Joe..
AND .....
Is/was Arnold Over-rated.
1 = Yes, he has been definitely overated.
2 = Arnold was sorta over-ratred.
3 = Arnold was definitely not overrated.
According to the "Bigger"-movie, a lot!
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As I said just a few days ago, whenever Basile inserts himself into a thread everybody starts shaking their heads and the collective groans can almost be heard through the computer screen.
Everybody is shady and on the take except you. Everyone else had some corrupt angle they used to dupe everybody else and come out ahead. That's your excuse for being such an abject failure in life.
Just an angry, bitter, fat, old man.
Pellius your hamburger episode has clouded your brain.
Paul Graham called our gym in 1974 offering a seminar and posing exhibition by Arnold for $500. Problem was there wasn't time to advertise. We accepted
anyway. Arnold was well known in Sydney because he had posed at several of Paul Graham's contests. Before he gave the seminar I did an interview with him. I wore the track suit I wore as a PE teacher.
I researched Arnold and knew he already owned a million dollar house at Malibu Beach. We both drove BMW cars. After answering questions he did his posing then returned in training gear to show us how to do some exercises.
We invited Arnold to our place in Manly later for dinner. Lots of gym regulars were there as well. He went to Tony's Gym to do another posing exhibition. After that he and Paul Graham and company came
over for dinner. Roz fed everyone there T-bone steaks. Several of us sat around Arnold and I asked him a few questions. First was how he pronounced his name. "Schwartzen-eggar". I asked him about
Sergio Oliva. He said Sergio was a pig. What about Robby Robinson? He was a pig, too. I listed a few more black bodybuilders and Arnold said they were all pigs. I told him he was racially prejudiced.
"No, I just don't like any of dose guys!" We talked about fixed contests. Arnold said that everyone who lost said the contest was fixed. Sergio, Franco, etc. I asked him about that contest in 1968 in
Florida where Frank Zane beat him. "That contest was fixed!" he insisted. He did say that if he had Sergio's physique he would have beaten what he had in those days.
Then the subject of movies came up. I told him Steve Reeves was a handsome guy and how on earth was he going to be a movie star? He said he liked when people said things like that because it
"made me try harder"!
Arnold got up and we assumed he went to the bathroom. There were two in that nice apartment called Pembroke. Arnold was gone for a long time. The parents of one of our baby sitters asked me if I had seen their daughter. No.
On hearing this Robert Nailon jumped up. He is called the brain by his mates in Australia. Robert returned in a minute and said Arnold was having sex with one of the babysitters. Apparently he forgot to lock the balcony door that Robert
opened. Someone alerted Arnold that the babysitter's parents were looking for her. Next thing Arnold and Paul hastily departed. I asked the babysitter what happened and she said Arnold forced her. I asked why she didn't shout out or
say anything and she said she didn't want to cause any trouble. Since the girl's parents were there I felt they were responsible for her. She was 16.
I related this story to John Balik who published Ironman Magazine. He wrote back that a similar story could be told maybe 1000 times about Arnold from all over the world.
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Here is Arnold posing at Tony's Gym in Sydney in 1974. Robert Nailon got lucky because someone else used a flash at the same time giving the photo more drama.
Probably one of the best physique shots ever taken of Arnold. Photo edited by me.
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Good stuff, Vince.
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I related this story to John Balik who published Ironman Magazine. He wrote back that a similar story could be told maybe 1000 times about Arnold from all over the world.
You could spearhead a #MeToo initiative. If you can produce the babysitter.
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Rate Joe Weider's importance regarding Arnold's success on a scale of 1 - 5.
1 = Of no imprtance. Joe was of definitely not important.
5 = Extreme inportance. Arnold could not have done it without Joe..
AND .....
Is/was Arnold Over-rated.
1 = Yes, he has been definitely overated.
2 = Arnold was sorta over-ratred.
3 = Arnold was definitely not overrated.
If The question was : How important was Joe Weider to Dave Draper's (Blond Bomber) success , ID say 5.
Regarding Arnold, I asked myself that question when I watched the Bigger movie , However With Arnold it simply does not apply .....
Arnold was going to make it no matter what
The Blond Bomber was on cover of mags and adds when he wasnt a top 6 Mr.O contender where Sergio, who was mr.O wans't promoted.....
yet Draper was forgotten in time .... with the new poster boy and so on ......
1- Like Vince said, Arnold was told to do certain jobs for Weider when he first arrived he said NO yet he went to take over Dave Drapper's place and went to become the face of Weider's empire .
2- Arnold was told to take his shirt off and do a posing routine on Carson's Tonight show but he said NO yet he went to promote his books movies ec..
3- Arnold was asked to play the good guy in the Termnator movie he said No yet he went to play the Terminator himself and the rest is history ...
you dont know who youre dealing with here
WOOOSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HH BARRACUDA MODE
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still he was no bruce lee.
bruce lee had a bigger impact and wouldve kicked arnolds ass.
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still he was no bruce lee.
bruce lee had a bigger impact and wouldve kicked arnolds ass.
And Joe Weider made Bruce Lee ...
(to make Bruce relevant in this thread )
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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still he was no bruce lee.
bruce lee had a bigger impact and wouldve kicked arnolds ass.
What if Arnold had met Bruce Lee before he met Joe Weider?
Maybe Arnold would have become an Artial Martist instead?
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What if Arnold had met Bruce Lee before he met Joe Weider?
Maybe Arnold would have become an Artial Martist instead?
yes that wouldve been something.
instead of bruce lee fighting chuck norris he could've fought arnold
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Rate Joe Weider's importance regarding Arnold's success on a scale of 1 - 5.
1 = Of no imprtance. Joe was of definitely not important.
5 = Extreme inportance. Arnold could not have done it without Joe..
AND .....
Is/was Arnold Over-rated.
1 = Yes, he has been definitely overated.
2 = Arnold was sorta over-ratred.
3 = Arnold was definitely not overrated.
2/3
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arnold was no bruce lee thats for sure.
bruce lee would've kicked arnolds ass.
Nonsense, Arnold benched press far more than Lee and had far bigger arms than Lee.
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Nonsense, Arnold benched press far more than Lee and had far bigger arms than Lee.
bruce lee benched more if you take into account his body weight
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bruce lee benched more if you take into account his body weight
Maybe so but Arnold was bigger and stronger, hed have grabbed Lee and smashed him
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Fact: Ludwig Shusterich was representing Weiders in Europe, he inform Joe about Arnold, L.S. was Croat who spoke German,J.W. told him to bring Arnold
to California & the rest is history.
John Milius created film star Arnold !.
When Franco arrived , Arnold & him work as builders around Venice,Santa Monica,Marina.................. (Arnold on Youtube)
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Joe Weider,Arnold,Paul Graham,Tony Doherty ,................are successful & loaded ;)
But, Safety Fat who is near 80 is penniless ;D (I wonder WHY, must be his charisma ::))
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How important was Joe for the success of these bodybuilders?
(http://i68.tinypic.com/4tax4z.jpg)
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Rate Joe Weider's importance regarding Arnold's success on a scale of 1 - 5.
1 = Of no imprtance. Joe was of definitely not important.
5 = Extreme inportance. Arnold could not have done it without Joe..
AND .....
Is/was Arnold Over-rated.
1 = Yes, he has been definitely overated.
2 = Arnold was sorta over-ratred.
3 = Arnold was definitely not overrated.
Arnold couldn't have done it without Joe.
Yes, he has been definitely overrated.
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Interesting stuff Basile
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Arnold couldn't have done it without Joe.
Yes, he has been definitely overrated.
Regardless of who made who more successful both Arnold and Joe deserve a better movie about them than that abortion recently produced.
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Regardless of who made who more successful both Arnold and Joe deserve a better movie about them than that abortion recently produced.
I think you meant a different word. Then again, since it's out and has seen life a leftist would agree this term is applicable here.
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I think you meant a different word. Then again, since it's out and has seen life a leftist would agree this term is applicable here.
I should have said botched abortion for that movie. That is one abortion that should have happened.
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How important was Joe for the success of these bodybuilders?
(http://i68.tinypic.com/4tax4z.jpg)
What success have they achieved?
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Pellius your hamburger episode has clouded your brain.
Paul Graham called our gym in 1974 offering a seminar and posing exhibition by Arnold for $500. Problem was there wasn't time to advertise. We accepted
anyway. Arnold was well known in Sydney because he had posed at several of Paul Graham's contests. Before he gave the seminar I did an interview with him. I wore the track suit I wore as a PE teacher.
I researched Arnold and knew he already owned a million dollar house at Malibu Beach. We both drove BMW cars. After answering questions he did his posing then returned in training gear to show us how to do some exercises.
We invited Arnold to our place in Manly later for dinner. Lots of gym regulars were there as well. He went to Tony's Gym to do another posing exhibition. After that he and Paul Graham and company came
over for dinner. Roz fed everyone there T-bone steaks. Several of us sat around Arnold and I asked him a few questions. First was how he pronounced his name. "Schwartzen-eggar". I asked him about
Sergio Oliva. He said Sergio was a pig. What about Robby Robinson? He was a pig, too. I listed a few more black bodybuilders and Arnold said they were all pigs. I told him he was racially prejudiced.
"No, I just don't like any of dose guys!" We talked about fixed contests. Arnold said that everyone who lost said the contest was fixed. Sergio, Franco, etc. I asked him about that contest in 1968 in
Florida where Frank Zane beat him. "That contest was fixed!" he insisted. He did say that if he had Sergio's physique he would have beaten what he had in those days.
Then the subject of movies came up. I told him Steve Reeves was a handsome guy and how on earth was he going to be a movie star? He said he liked when people said things like that because it
"made me try harder"!
Arnold got up and we assumed he went to the bathroom. There were two in that nice apartment called Pembroke. Arnold was gone for a long time. The parents of one of our baby sitters asked me if I had seen their daughter. No.
On hearing this Robert Nailon jumped up. He is called the brain by his mates in Australia. Robert returned in a minute and said Arnold was having sex with one of the babysitters. Apparently he forgot to lock the balcony door that Robert
opened. Someone alerted Arnold that the babysitter's parents were looking for her. Next thing Arnold and Paul hastily departed. I asked the babysitter what happened and she said Arnold forced her. I asked why she didn't shout out or
say anything and she said she didn't want to cause any trouble. Since the girl's parents were there I felt they were responsible for her. She was 16.
I related this story to John Balik who published Ironman Magazine. He wrote back that a similar story could be told maybe 1000 times about Arnold from all over the world.
Yes, Vince, we've heard this story over and over and over and over again. We get it. At one time you were an insider and you like to keep reminding us of that. But did you even read the title of this thread? We know you want everyone to believe that you were a major player in the bbing cult but this thread is not about you.
Since you like talking about yourself so much can you please explain why they call you "Cornutto"? Is it true that Roz was cheating on such a big hypertrophy expert stud like you? That she had to bankrupt the gym to finally get rid of you. You also mentioned that you collect a Canadian pension. Are you also double dipping and collecting from Australia too?
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Yes, Vince, we've heard this story over and over and over and over again. We get it. At one time you were an insider and you like to keep reminding us of that. But did you even read the title of this thread? We know you want everyone to believe that you were a major player in the bbing cult but this thread is not about you.
Since you like talking about yourself so much can you please explain why they call you "Cornutto"? Is it true that Roz was cheating on such a big hypertrophy expert stud like you? That she had to bankrupt the gym to finally get rid of you. You also mentioned that you collect a Canadian pension. Are you also double dipping and collecting from Australia too?
That story about Arnold isn't at all about me. Hope you comprehend this.
I have no knowledge whether Roz had cheated on me. Good for her if she did. She told me one day that I would be surprised at who the guys were who came around courting her when I was teaching high school.
About the Australian aged pension. They have an agreement with Canada and it is required that dual citizens apply for pensions in both countries. Canada doesn't give me much. Naturally I told Centrelink in Sydney.
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Pellius your hamburger episode has clouded your brain.
Paul Graham called our gym in 1974 offering a seminar and posing exhibition by Arnold for $500. Problem was there wasn't time to advertise. We accepted
anyway. Arnold was well known in Sydney because he had posed at several of Paul Graham's contests. Before he gave the seminar I did an interview with him. I wore the track suit I wore as a PE teacher.
I researched Arnold and knew he already owned a million dollar house at Malibu Beach. We both drove BMW cars. After answering questions he did his posing then returned in training gear to show us how to do some exercises.
We invited Arnold to our place in Manly later for dinner. Lots of gym regulars were there as well. He went to Tony's Gym to do another posing exhibition. After that he and Paul Graham and company came
over for dinner. Roz fed everyone there T-bone steaks. Several of us sat around Arnold and I asked him a few questions. First was how he pronounced his name. "Schwartzen-eggar". I asked him about
Sergio Oliva. He said Sergio was a pig. What about Robby Robinson? He was a pig, too. I listed a few more black bodybuilders and Arnold said they were all pigs. I told him he was racially prejudiced.
"No, I just don't like any of dose guys!" We talked about fixed contests. Arnold said that everyone who lost said the contest was fixed. Sergio, Franco, etc. I asked him about that contest in 1968 in
Florida where Frank Zane beat him. "That contest was fixed!" he insisted. He did say that if he had Sergio's physique he would have beaten what he had in those days.
Then the subject of movies came up. I told him Steve Reeves was a handsome guy and how on earth was he going to be a movie star? He said he liked when people said things like that because it
"made me try harder"!
Arnold got up and we assumed he went to the bathroom. There were two in that nice apartment called Pembroke. Arnold was gone for a long time. The parents of one of our baby sitters asked me if I had seen their daughter. No.
On hearing this Robert Nailon jumped up. He is called the brain by his mates in Australia. Robert returned in a minute and said Arnold was having sex with one of the babysitters. Apparently he forgot to lock the balcony door that Robert
opened. Someone alerted Arnold that the babysitter's parents were looking for her. Next thing Arnold and Paul hastily departed. I asked the babysitter what happened and she said Arnold forced her. I asked why she didn't shout out or
say anything and she said she didn't want to cause any trouble. Since the girl's parents were there I felt they were responsible for her. She was 16.
I related this story to John Balik who published Ironman Magazine. He wrote back that a similar story could be told maybe 1000 times about Arnold from all over the world.
So, if I am reading this correctly, are you saying that Arnold raped a 16 year old girl?
If that was the case, did anyone bother to call the actual police? Why weren't charges brought up against him?
I'm just trying to understand.
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So, if I am reading this correctly, are you saying that Arnold raped a 16 year old girl?
If that was the case, did anyone bother to call the actual police? Why weren't charges brought up against him?
I'm just trying to understand.
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OMR, there's a photo that's been posted on here numerous times of Arnold literally grabbing a girl by the pussy.....something he's so abhorred that DT would mention on a bus with another guy. Seeing that, and reading this story go hand in vagina hand.
Arnold will always be highly respected for what he did in/for bbing, but I think mine is not the only opinion of him that has really plummeted. Fake as can be.
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Weider deserves nothing. Nothing.
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So, if I am reading this correctly, are you saying that Arnold raped a 16 year old girl?
If that was the case, did anyone bother to call the actual police? Why weren't charges brought up against him?
I'm just trying to understand.
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1. he already posted that rubbish on GB, ask Ron !.
His plan was to get big coins from Arnold, but nobody give a f,,,,,,,,,, about his BS.
Allegedly there was 5 other "witnesses" & surprise, surprise nobody come forward ::) ???
Ask yourself why he didn't report it to cops, Manly Police station is only 1 km from his place !?
Where is the Statutory Declaration signed by him & Justice of Peace ???.
He also posted this BS on IronAge & was booted out by Mr.Shawn Perine , Editor of Muscle & Fitness !.
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About the Australian aged pension. They have an agreement with Canada and it is required that dual citizens apply for pensions in both countries. Canada doesn't give me much. Naturally I told Centrelink in Sydney.[/color]
Successful business people shouldn't be on the Australian age pension :P
After all, U a self proclaimed "successful businessman" ;D
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Arnold arrived in LA in October 1968. I was there, too. Joe brought him to the states and gave him a job in the warehouse shifting pallets around. No way Arnold was going to do that.
He preferred to train then hang around the beach at Venice. Then go eat all you can at one of the local diners.
Joe Gold told Arnold not to bother owning a gym. He figured you couldn't make much in the industry. So he encouraged Arnold to buy real estate. By 1974 Arnold was a millionaire.
Yes, we all underestimated how intelligent and determined he was. How he made it in Hollywood is one of the all-time success stories. He would go to auditions and they would laugh
at him. Ordinary mortals would have given up. Not Arnold. Every criticism and defeat only motivated him to try harder. He got lucky, too, when they cast him as the Terminator.
About Joe and Arnold. Well, the truth is white guys on the covers of his magazines sold more copies. Lots of Arnold covers but few Sergio ones. There you are.
This guy is so full of shit. You were there in 68 were you. ROFL.
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This guy is so full of shit. You were there in 68 were you. ROFL.
J
Yes he was. Basile was there around the same time i was.
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arnold was only mildly successful.
he never did have a singing career. didn't dance. didn't direct.
exceptional vocalist!!
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Yes he was. Basile was there around the same time i was.
I took a photo of Arnold outside Golds Gym in October 1968. Was published in MTI.
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So, if I am reading this correctly, are you saying that Arnold raped a 16 year old girl?
If that was the case, did anyone bother to call the actual police? Why weren't charges brought up against him?
I'm just trying to understand.
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I am just reporting what others said. I made no value judgement.
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I am just reporting what others said. I made no value judgement.
Really? You were there when it actually happened. I got a third hand report telling me some guards had sex with a teenager. I was supposed to report something that allegedly happened in the past that I neither witnessed or could prove. You apparently knew enough to try to blackmail Arnold.
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Really? You were there when it actually happened. I got a third hand report telling me some guards had sex with a teenager. I was supposed to report something that allegedly happened in the past that I neither witnessed or could prove. You apparently knew enough to try to blackmail Arnold.
Stop fabricating lies. I am not trying to blackmail anyone. I am responsible for what I post unlike most people on the internet. I would be extremely foolish to make up stories about Arnold.
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This guy is so full of shit. You were there in 68 were you. ROFL.
J
He may be an annoyance from time to time, but the guy has been around and has lots of history in and around the industry. He was this close to being Arthur Jones when it comes to machine innovation
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Really? You were there when it actually happened. I got a third hand report telling me some guards had sex with a teenager. I was supposed to report something that allegedly happened in the past that I neither witnessed or could prove. You apparently knew enough to try to blackmail Arnold.
reminder: he is also self proclaimed " successful businessman" & other imaginary BS ::)
his current look & lifestyle tells all :P
5 years ago on IronAge he was talking about his biceps training , just like now on GB !. Dementia screw him :-\
he continuously repeats already repeated ...............
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Stop fabricating lies. I am not trying to blackmail anyone. I am responsible for what I post unlike most people on the internet. I would be extremely foolish to make up stories about Arnold.
So why didn't you report a crime that took place right under your own roof with you there?
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So why didn't you report a crime that took place right under your own roof with you there?
Yes, TELL US ................... :o
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Yes, TELL US ................... :o
Tell who? Who am I having this discussion with? I don't know you and you aren't a bodybuilder. Just a paid harasser, patsy and nuisance.
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So why didn't you report a crime that took place right under your own roof with you there?
So technically speaking he is accessory to (alleged) crime & he could be prosecuted :D
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Stop fabricating lies. I am not trying to blackmail anyone. I am responsible for what I post unlike most people on the internet. I would be extremely foolish to make up stories about Arnold.
Hollywood is not interested, try BOLLYWOOD ;D
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Tell who? Who am I having this discussion with? I don't know you and you aren't a bodybuilder. Just a paid harasser, patsy and nuisance.
Vincenzo don't get over exited, & take high blood pressure tablet.
A U accepting my hair cut/body wax (full Brazilian included) offer or not !?.
OBW, I am laughing all the way to the bank :D
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exceptional vocalist!!
;D ;D :D
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Vincenzo don't get over exited, & take high blood pressure tablet.
OBW, I am laughing all the way to the bank :D
I used to tell bodybuilders not to get too excited. I don't take any pills or medication.
No one is silly enough to pay you money to harass anyone on the internet! Would take a big ego to do so.
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Rate Joe Weider's importance regarding Arnold's success on a scale of 1 - 5.
1 = Of no imprtance. Joe was of definitely not important.
5 = Extreme inportance. Arnold could not have done it without Joe..
AND .....
Is/was Arnold Over-rated.
1 = Yes, he has been definitely overated.
2 = Arnold was sorta over-ratred.
That's like asking; how important was Brian Epstein to the success of the Beatles
3 = Arnold was definitely not overrated.
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No one is silly enough to pay you money to harass anyone on the internet!
U a contradicting yourself ::)
( & U "don't" have senility problems, yeah right)
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how important was joe weider for schmoes?
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So why didn't you report a crime that took place right under your own roof with you there?
Yeah, Vincenzo tell them :........................ ...............
Manly Police Station would have your written/signed statement, right :D
OBW, Under Freedom of Information Act copy of YOUR statement can be easily obtain, IF EXIST ;)
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In regards to Vince's story about the daughter and Arnold....
We've seen the pic of him fingering a young chick in a group setting, in public, and while smiling for the camera. I also recall stories from those days' pros or old G.G. regulars talking about how the girls showered with the guys, and there was more than one occasion when the gym closed that a girl(s) were playin "all aboard" on the end of a bber choo-choo train.
It doesn't really seem that implausible to me. Vince, aren't you an accessory to a rape if that's how it really went down. :-\ Are you so desperate to be acknowledged as being "in the loop" that you're actually fine with posting such info with seemingly no remorse/regret? ??? Kinda sad sir :'(
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I have zero doubt Arnold’s past includes innumerable questionable sexual encounters.
To think otherwise is pure ignorance concerning who this man is and the scene in which he ran.
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In regards to Vince's story about the daughter and Arnold....
We've seen the pic of him fingering a young chick in a group setting, in public, and while smiling for the camera. I also recall stories from those days' pros or old G.G. regulars talking about how the girls showered with the guys, and there was more than one occasion when the gym closed that a girl(s) were playin "all aboard" on the end of a bber choo-choo train.
It doesn't really seem that implausible to me. Vince, aren't you an accessory to a rape if that's how it really went down. :-\ Are you so desperate to be acknowledged as being "in the loop" that you're actually fine with posting such info with seemingly no remorse/regret? ??? Kinda sad sir :'(
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Thanx Skeletor!
That's the one. Looks like an upstanding good-natured chap, who'd be unlikely to fuck anything walking....or laying, standing, sitting, ...running, right? ;)
I have zero doubt Arnold’s past includes innumerable questionable sexual encounters.
To think otherwise is pure ignorance concerning who this man is and the scene in which he ran.
I was hoping you'd chime in on this. We(old fuckers) know you have inside knowledge. So boom...mystery solved.
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In regards to Vince's story about the daughter and Arnold....
We've seen the pic of him fingering a young chick in a group setting, in public, and while smiling for the camera. I also recall stories from those days' pros or old G.G. regulars talking about how the girls showered with the guys, and there was more than one occasion when the gym closed that a girl(s) were playin "all aboard" on the end of a bber choo-choo train.
It doesn't really seem that implausible to me. Vince, aren't you an accessory to a rape if that's how it really went down. :-\ Are you so desperate to be acknowledged as being "in the loop" that you're actually fine with posting such info with seemingly no remorse/regret? ??? Kinda sad sir :'(
Remember what his comment was earlier in this thread. The typical Leftist propaganda. The "who are we to judge" argument that they use for everything, whether it's aberrant behavior, sexual perversion, or political systems and ideology. The Left was the biggest defenders of Communism. It was just an alternative political system and who are we to say that ours is better. It took a Reagan, a man with conviction and a moral foundation to state plainly that Communism was evil. They think it's a virtue not to judge. That just means you don't have standards for individuals and society. I think a lot has to do with secularism. No value system higher than yourself. Vince is an avowed atheist.
I am just reporting what others said. I made no value judgement.
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In regards to Vince's story about the daughter and Arnold....
We've seen the pic of him fingering a young chick in a group setting, in public, and while smiling for the camera. I also recall stories from those days' pros or old G.G. regulars talking about how the girls showered with the guys, and there was more than one occasion when the gym closed that a girl(s) were playin "all aboard" on the end of a bber choo-choo train.
It doesn't really seem that implausible to me. Vince, aren't you an accessory to a rape if that's how it really went down. :-\ Are you so desperate to be acknowledged as being "in the loop" that you're actually fine with posting such info with seemingly no remorse/regret? ??? Kinda sad sir :'(
What daughter? Not mine! It was a babysitter, 16 years old. Arnold felt he could do whatever he liked and just about did whenever it pleased him. Quite boorish behaviour for anyone.
The girl willingly went into a bedroom with Arnold. Afterwards when asked what happened she said Arnold forced her. She also said she didn't want to get anyone into any trouble. Does that sound like rape? Her parents were there so
they were responsible for her. As a matter of fact they were looking for her at the time.
If she thought something like rape had occurred she would have told her parents. I doubt she told them what happened in the bedroom.
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What daughter? Not mine! It was a babysitter, 16 years old. Arnold felt he could do whatever he liked and just about did whenever it pleased him. Quite boorish behaviour for anyone.
The girl willingly went into a bedroom with Arnold. Afterwards when asked what happened she said Arnold forced her. She also said she didn't want to get anyone into any trouble. Does that sound like rape? Her parents were there so
they were responsible for her. As a matter of fact they were looking for her at the time.
If she thought something like rape had occurred she would have told her parents. I doubt she told them what happened in the bedroom.
First of all, I did not fucking say YOUR daughter. Adjust your glasses, or at least don't be so defensive about something that doesn't pertain to you. It makes you seem guilty of something.
Secondly, yeah...that sounds like rape
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First of all, I did not fucking say YOUR daughter. Adjust your glasses, or at least don't be so defensive about something that doesn't pertain to you. It makes you seem guilty of something.
Secondly, yeah...that sounds like rape
Third, under age.
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Great thread. I can't add much more to what has been said on here. Joe was fundamental to Arnold's success, and vice versa [to some extent]. It's hard to say which one helped the other more. I think both would have been successful regardless of whether or not they met one another.
Imagine a Jew meets an Austrian, and they have a relationship like that. I'm not a leftist, but it's almost touching.
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Remember what his comment was earlier in this thread. The typical Leftist propaganda. The "who are we to judge" argument that they use for everything, whether it's aberrant behavior, sexual perversion, or political systems and ideology. The Left was the biggest defenders of Communism. It was just an alternative political system and who are we to say that ours is better. It took a Reagan, a man with conviction and a moral foundation to state plainly that Communism was evil. They think it's a virtue not to judge. That just means you don't have standards for individuals and society. I think a lot has to do with secularism. No value system higher than yourself. Vince is an avowed atheist.
Those leftists that constantly tell people not to judge are THE most judgmental people you will ever meet.
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What daughter? Not mine! It was a babysitter, 16 years old. Arnold felt he could do whatever he liked and just about did whenever it pleased him. Quite boorish behaviour for anyone.
The girl willingly went into a bedroom with Arnold. Afterwards when asked what happened she said Arnold forced her. She also said she didn't want to get anyone into any trouble. Does that sound like rape? Her parents were there so
they were responsible for her. As a matter of fact they were looking for her at the time.
If she thought something like rape had occurred she would have told her parents. I doubt she told them what happened in the bedroom.
It's about time to inform Roz about Fat Pinocchio internet activities , after all her apartment & bead is publicly advertised by her ex ;)
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What daughter? Not mine! It was a babysitter, 16 years old. Arnold felt he could do whatever he liked and just about did whenever it pleased him. Quite boorish behaviour for anyone.
The girl willingly went into a bedroom with Arnold. Afterwards when asked what happened she said Arnold forced her. She also said she didn't want to get anyone into any trouble. Does that sound like rape? Her parents were there so
they were responsible for her. As a matter of fact they were looking for her at the time.
If she thought something like rape had occurred she would have told her parents. I doubt she told them what happened in the bedroom.
WOW & WOW :o :o :o, 2 BED ROOM apartments & her parents could NOT locate her ...............
In 1 'Safety Fats' version : A. was bonking her in a BED ROOM & in another on BALCONY ...............
OBW, now is apartment , before was "THE PENTHOUSE " ............
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WOW & WOW :o :o :o, 2 BEAD ROOM apartments & her parents could NOT locate her ...............
In 1 'Safety Fats' version : A. was bonking her in a BEAD ROOM & in another on BALCONY ...............
OBW, now is apartment , before was "THE PENTHOUSE " ............
Dementia? ??? Alzheimers? ???
Liar ???
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Dementia? ??? Alzheimers? ???
Liar ???
I am of sound mind and body. Iron Cross is somewhat challenged intellectually. Notice how he spells 'bedroom'.
He is being paid to harass me any way he can. If he can get people to think I lied about some small things then perhaps
I made up the story about Arnold. Nope, that story is the truth.
Our apartment was Unit 64. Here are two other properties to give an idea of how many bedrooms, views, etc.
http://house.ksou.cn/p.php?q=Manly&sta=nsw&id=73460
https://www.realestate.com.au/sold/property-apartment-nsw-manly-106893811
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I am of sound mind and body. Iron Cross is somewhat challenged intellectually. Notice how he spells 'bedroom'.
He is being paid to harass me any way he can. If he can get people to think I lied about some small things then perhaps
I made up the story about Arnold. Nope, that story is the truth.
Our apartment was Unit 64.
;D ;D ;D
just another contradiction: '' Our APARTMENT '' , so no more PENTHOUSE :'(
Hey, mr.Safety Fat , WHY Rozy didn't call Manly cops ::)
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Dementia? ??? Alzheimers? ???
Liar ???
He hated Arnold 4 placing him THE LAST on Paul Graham IFBB Mr.Australia 1975
Just don't ask him who was selling Arnolds poster in Roz & Vince gym ::)
His hate toward P.Graham & IFBB is well documented, but attending Mr.Olympia '80 & selling images of that event :o , was just fine .
Hates Tony Dohertys success too.
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He hated Arnold 4 placing him THE LAST on Paul Graham IFBB Mr.Australia 1975
Just don't ask him who was selling Arnolds poster in Roz & Vince gym ::)
His hate toward P.Graham & IFBB is well documented, but attending Mr.Olympia '80 & selling images of that event :o , was just fine .
Hates Tony Dohertys success too.
What a f%$kwit you are. I don't hate Arnold. However, I sure didn't like the way he and Paul Graham put me last in the 1975 Mr Australia contest.
Paul Graham gave me the lowest score of all the judges. He was 'getting even' for the times I was a judge and he didn't win. Also, two weeks earlier
Robert Nailon was given a gift of the Mr NSW contest. So many of us booed. Andrew Shigelski, a gym member, overheard Paul and Arnold saying they
would fix me in Melbourne. I told Frank Burwash before the contest but he did bugger all. Later he wrote me a letter admitting that both Paul and
Arnold unfairly put me last.
We never sold any posters of Arnold at our gym. Never. So stop making up shit.
I had a run in with Tony Doherty. He didn't like a couple of posts I made. That was it. I certainly don't begrudge his success. Good luck to anyone who
opens gyms or runs contests.
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What a f%$kwit you are. I don't hate Arnold. However, I sure didn't like the way he and Paul Graham put me last in the 1975 Mr Australia contest.
Paul Graham gave me the lowest score of all the judges. He was 'getting even' for the times I was a judge and he didn't win. Also, two weeks earlier
Robert Nailon was given a gift of the Mr NSW contest. So many of us booed. Andrew Shigelski, a gym member, overheard Paul and Arnold saying they
would fix me in Melbourne. I told Frank Burwash before the contest but he did bugger all. Later he wrote me a letter admitting that both Paul and
Arnold unfairly put me last.
WHY not posting image or 2 from Ifbb Mr.Australia 1975 to prove your 'body superiority' over others ???.
If U travel to South Africa (as Aussie rep) would you also defeat Robby Robinson for Ifbb Mr.Universe 1975 title !!!
Roger Walker, was 'only' 2nd on that contest.
OMG , U would be in 'Pumping Iron' too :o :o :o :'( :'( :'(
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He may be an annoyance from time to time, but the guy has been around and has lots of history in and around the industry. He was this close to being Arthur Jones when it comes to machine innovation
At every single juncture he claims to have been around . . . total bullshitter. I took this picture, it was published in Muscle Builder & Power.
J
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Arnold unfairly put me last.
We never sold any posters of Arnold at our gym. Never. So stop making up shit.
Ah, that Arnold ;D
mr. Safety Fat U poop your pant's AGAIN: who created Roz & Vince gym page on FACEBOOK (ah, must be A.) & WHO was using American pro's images
to promote that dead business & WHO was selling Arnold poster on that Facebook page.
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At every single juncture he claims to have been around . . . total bullshitter. I took this picture, it was published in Muscle Builder & Power.
J
Yes & yes, just go to Youtube: Grandfather of Australian bodybuilding , Tony Doherty Muscle TV ,3 episodes about Rocco Oppedisano.
Everyone else visited muscle mecca too, SO WHAT. Why Joe didn't notice him, hmmmm................... .....
Regarding to him, he would also defeat Frank Zane (IronAge site) & obviously many others, like Roger Walker in 1975 .YEAH RIGHT :D
WHO was stopping him from competing on PBBI contests in Australia ??? .
WHO was stopping him from ''defeating" Zane on NABBA Mr.Universe, or winning WBBG titles or Ifbb Mr.International ..............!!!!.
Nubret would welcome him to WABBA , but .....................
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Yes & yes, just go to Youtube: Grandfather of Australian bodybuilding , Tony Doherty Muscle TV ,3 episodes about Rocco Oppedisano.
Everyone else visited muscle mecca too, SO WHAT. Why Joe didn't notice him, hmmmm................... .....
Regarding to him, he would also defeat Frank Zane (IronAge site) & obviously many others, like Roger Walker in 1975 .YEAH RIGHT :D
WHO was stopping him from competing on PBBI contests in Australia ??? .
WHO was stopping him from ''defeating" Zane on NABBA Mr.Universe, or winning WBBG titles or Ifbb Mr.International ..............!!!!.
Nubret would welcome him to WABBA , but .....................
I swear that your posts are like a guy taking a shit wherever he goes!
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At every single juncture he claims to have been around . . . total bullshitter. I took this picture, it was published in Muscle Builder & Power.
J
He's out of frame in the far right corner assembling and installing his revolutionary machine that has led to the peaks of all the legends. ::)
I'm sure there's a post on here from him reminiscing about watching you take this photo as he did that. ;)
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I swear that your posts are like a guy taking a shit wherever he goes!
I swear, just your presence on this board is like a steamy lump of shit spreading your foul odor everywhere.
Still waiting for an answer as to why you did nothing when a rape occurred in your apartment with you present and you did nothing.
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I swear, just your presence on this board is like a steamy lump of shit spreading your foul odor everywhere.
Still waiting for an answer as to why you did nothing when a rape occurred in your apartment with you present and you did nothing.
Thanks, Philip, I always knew you were a fair-minded individual.
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Thanks, Philip, I always knew you were a fair-minded individual.
You're welcome. I admire you for keep coming back for more ass raping. I guess at your point in life any attention is better than no attention.
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I'm a data analyst at a Fortune 500 company. I live on Zero Hedge and post here when I'm not busy. I have sifted through the information for the past 24 hours. In order to ensure proper vigilance and attention to detail I consumed 200 mg of Adderall spaced out in a bi-hourly schedule. I also have been microdosing LSD for the past three years.
I can unequivocally say that there is absolutely nothing profound within this information. It is insubstantial at best, and outright exaggerations bordering on slander at worst.
It would likely be in everyone's best interest to focus on more pertinent issues as opposed to getting lost in a web of obfuscation.
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I'm a data analyst at a Fortune 500 company. I live on Zero Hedge and post here when I'm not busy. I have sifted through the information for the past 24 hours. In order to ensure proper vigilance and attention to detail I consumed 200 mg of Adderall spaced out in a bi-hourly schedule. I also have been microdosing LSD for the past three years.
I can unequivocally say that there is absolutely nothing profound within this information. It is insubstantial at best, and outright exaggerations bordering on slander at worst.
It would likely be in everyone's best interest to focus on more pertinent issues as opposed to getting lost in a web of obfuscation.
LOL. 45 years after an event this is how important matters are decided?
Nothing insubstantial about what I posted. All facts therefore no defamation.
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I related this story to John Balik who published Ironman Magazine. He wrote back that a similar story could be told maybe 1000 times about Arnold from all over the world.
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Wow , accusing someone for committing 1000 rapes ........................
Alcoholism + Dementia + Alzheimer = Safety Fat
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Wow , accusing someone for committing 1000 rapes ........................
Alcoholism + Dementia + Alzheimer = Safety Fat
You really are dense. You are continuing this saga by your posts. Surely you aren’t paid to do that.
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You really are dense. You are continuing this saga by your posts. Surely you aren’t paid to do that.
First you claim he is paid and now he's not. Make up your mind you senile old fatso.
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First you claim he is paid and now he's not. Make up your mind you senile old fatso.
Brain dead Basile ::)
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First you claim he is paid and now he's not. Make up your mind you senile old fatso.
You are comprehension challenged. He claimed he was being paid. Also claimed to be a Red Bull athlete. I rather doubt he is any sort of athlete. More beach bum and patsy.
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You are comprehension challenged. He claimed he was being paid. Also claimed to be a Red Bull athlete. I rather doubt he is any sort of athlete. More beach bum and patsy.
Senility really sucks , U already wrote that ................. ::)
So what is gonna be : paid or not paid ;D
Google : Red Bull & Thailand ;) ;D
Beach Bum , o YES & YES :-* , but didn't U live only meters away from the Hawaiian Duke Kahanamoku statue & was idolized beach bum .... 8)
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Senility really sucks , U already wrote that ................. ::)
So what is gonna be : paid or not paid ;D
Google : Red Bull & Thailand ;) ;D
Beach Bum , o YES & YES :-* , but didn't U live only meters away from the Hawaiian Duke Kahanamoku statue & was idolized beach bum .... 8)
You definitely are not a Red Bull athlete. Just a beach bum. That is ok, enjoy the lifestyle.
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You definitely are not a Red Bull athlete. Just a beach bum. That is ok, enjoy the lifestyle.
WTF , nothing else ::) U sound like a new born christian ??? , no more ripping of my ribs & no more mincing me :o
What's next , an Easter choco egg ................... :P
Hey Vincenzo, a U RSL clubbing tonight ;)
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I have zero doubt Arnold’s past includes innumerable questionable sexual encounters.
To think otherwise is pure ignorance concerning who this man is and the scene in which he ran.
it was the late 1960s and 1970s in southern california - look at the time frame and location - I love arnold but i am not shocked one way or the other
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Arnold arrived in LA in October 1968. I was there, too. Joe brought him to the states and gave him a job in the warehouse shifting pallets around. No way Arnold was going to do that.
He preferred to train then hang around the beach at Venice. Then go eat all you can at one of the local diners.
Joe Gold told Arnold not to bother owning a gym. He figured you couldn't make much in the industry. So he encouraged Arnold to buy real estate. By 1974 Arnold was a millionaire.
Yes, we all underestimated how intelligent and determined he was. How he made it in Hollywood is one of the all-time success stories. He would go to auditions and they would laugh
at him. Ordinary mortals would have given up. Not Arnold. Every criticism and defeat only motivated him to try harder. He got lucky, too, when they cast him as the Terminator.
About Joe and Arnold. Well, the truth is white guys on the covers of his magazines sold more copies. Lots of Arnold covers but few Sergio ones. There you are.
i had no idea Arnold got into the real estate game early
yea bbing is and was a popularity contest and beauty contest - that is why i always say this! ive seen it first hand with my own two eyes