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All but three Democrats voted against the bill.
Congratulations Liberals, you still get to kill newborn babies.
This clip always cracks me up. The part about keeping the newborn "comfortable" as a discussion takes place as to whether to kill it or not.
Infanticide still alive and well among Democrats.
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If you’re a lib that finds this acceptable you’re piece of human shit.
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Interesting they don't respect the rights of the baby after being born but they celebrate the rights of everyone else who feels different from what they were born as.
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Great post. Shared:
https://www.facebook.com/matt.ca.5
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Doctors who participate in this are sickos.
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So let me get this right, after a baby is born it can be killed, haven't they just legalized murder? So what if the person is killed 20 years later, just a delayed abortion
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If you’re a lib that finds this acceptable you’re piece of human shit.
I agree with the ruling. Just another attempt to outlaw abortion completely and get around Roe Vs Wade as it was pretty clear as to its intentions. Each abortion procedure would have led to legal challenge. If you want to overturn abortion, then do it the right way
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Feminism and Liberalism are mental disorders and need to be eradicated immediately!!! I am so sick of the wickedness of the left!!!!!!!!!!!
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I agree with the ruling. Just another attempt to outlaw abortion completely and get around Roe Vs Wade as it was pretty clear as to its intentions. Each abortion procedure would have led to legal challenge. If you want to overturn abortion, then do it the right way
Do you not understanding living and breathing outside the womb? And roe v wade should be overturned but this had nothing to do with that. This is all about population control.
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Do you not understanding living and breathing outside the womb? And roe v wade should be overturned but this had nothing to do with that. This is all about population control.
MWhy do you get triggered so easily by those who have a different opinion than you?
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MWhy do you get triggered so easily by those who have a different opinion than you?
Sometimes you just have call out those that are so fucked in the head that they even try to rationalize this. There isn’t another issue on the table left or right that equals this issue. You can’t rationalize this other than it’s flat out murder. It’s not even a religious issue, this is flat out common sense. The Marxists have out done themselves.
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Sometimes you just have call out those that are so fucked in the head that they even try to rationalize this. There isn’t another issue on the table left or right that equals this issue. You can’t rationalize this other than it’s flat out murder. It’s not even a religious issue, this is flat out common sense. The Marxists have out done themselves.
Agree, there is no question that evil is alive and well
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We can always count on Republicans to use lies and willful ignorance to push their religious agenda
I'm not even going to waste my time copying and pasting the text since it's unlikely anyone who opposes this bogus legislation (most likely based on no "research" beyond seeing it's title)will actually read it
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/2/25/18239964/born-alive-abortion-survivors-protection-2019-sasse
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We can always count on Republicans to use lies and willful ignorance to push their religious agenda
I'm not even going to waste my time copying and pasting the text since it's unlikely anyone who opposes this bogus legislation (most likely based on no "research" beyond seeing it's title)will actually read it
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/2/25/18239964/born-alive-abortion-survivors-protection-2019-sasse
Then this clown comes up with an article from “Vox” a rag even more left than Mother Jones. GTFO retard.
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Great post. Shared:
https://www.facebook.com/matt.ca.5
Post the FB comment....many of us can't access your links as we aren't registered users
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Interesting they don't respect the rights of the baby after being born but they celebrate the rights of everyone else who feels different from what they were born as.
The video of Dinesh D'Souza I posted in the thread about Trump being the best POTUS addresses this hypocricy of the left
If we make abortions illegal, women will seek and be able to get them in back alleys from shady doctors.
If we make guns illegal though, only law enforcement and military will be able to get guns. ::)
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Do you not understanding living and breathing outside the womb? And roe v wade should be overturned but this had nothing to do with that. This is all about population control.
It's a simple runaround towards legal abortion. They would have used the law to outlaw all abortion by filing suits to investigate whether it was born alive. It's a shit law, Coach
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It's a simple runaround towards legal abortion. They would have used the law to outlaw all abortion by filing suits to investigate whether it was born alive. It's a shit law, Coach
How is protecting a living (already born) baby a shit law? You actually believe doctors should be allowed to kill a baby because the mother is inconvenienced?
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They already have this law on the books - from 2002.
"previously passed legislation from 2002. The only difference between the 17-year-old law and Monday's was that the most recent one would have imposed fines and potential jail time for doctors who failed to comply."
This was a stunt - the next step would of been to say that 'born alive' means is they could be born alive, and then when can they be 'born alive', meaning another way to outlaw abortions.
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They already have this law on the books - from 2002.
"previously passed legislation from 2002. The only difference between the 17-year-old law and Monday's was that the most recent one would have imposed fines and potential jail time for doctors who failed to comply."
This was a stunt - the next step would of been to say that 'born alive' means is they could be born alive, and then when can they be 'born alive', meaning another way to outlaw abortions.
It was actually meant to get all Democrats especially those running for president on record as being for killing live babies. It worked.
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So let me get this right, after a baby is born it can be killed, haven't they just legalized murder? So what if the person is killed 20 years later, just a delayed abortion
No... it can't be killed. That was the point the Democrats were trying to make. Laws already exist to deal with this. What this new bill was doing was interfering in a Doctors treatment of the baby. For example, it requires them to immediately transport them to a hospital. As many groups including the OBGYN Association has said, immediate transport may be detrimental to the baby and end up killing it. Congress often times interferes where they shouldn't and unintended consequences are the result.
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Sometimes you just have call out those that are so fucked in the head that they even try to rationalize this. There isn’t another issue on the table left or right that equals this issue. You can’t rationalize this other than it’s flat out murder. It’s not even a religious issue, this is flat out common sense. The Marxists have out done themselves.
There are already laws that make killing the born an alive baby a crime. This new bill was trying to hamstring doctors abilities to deal with the baby. You should read up on it when you get a chance
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"Senate Democrats, reproductive rights groups, and groups representing doctors disagreed, calling the legislation unnecessary and potentially damaging. “This legislation is based on lies and a misinformation campaign, aimed at shaming women and criminalizing doctors for a practice that doesn’t exist in medicine or reality,” said Dr. Leana Wen, the president of Planned Parenthood Federation of America, in a statement to Vox.
Brandi, of Physicians for Reproductive Health, said she had never heard of a case of a child born after a failed abortion attempt. “This is a part of the false narrative around this bill and abortion later in pregnancy,” she said.
Even if a child were to be born after an abortion attempt, she said, laws already exist to protect the baby. In 2002, Congress passed the Born-Alive Infants Protection Act, which guaranteed to infants born at any stage of development full legal rights. That bill, which passed with bipartisan support, did not include criminal penalties for doctors and did not impose specific requirements on medical care."
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If you’re a lib that finds this acceptable you’re piece of human shit.
IF you're a Conservative that fell for this political ploy...shame on you
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Sometimes you just have call out those that are so fucked in the head that they even try to rationalize this. There isn’t another issue on the table left or right that equals this issue. You can’t rationalize this other than it’s flat out murder. It’s not even a religious issue, this is flat out common sense. The Marxists have out done themselves.
You do have the option of educating yourself to learn laws already exist to cover this so it's a nothing burger
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Coach,
Hypothetical question for you. If an American woman is raped by a Muslim and gets pregnant, would you be okay with her getting an abortion?
Furthermore, if during the abortion, the child was born alive, should the child get medical care?
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You do have the option of educating yourself to learn laws already exist to cover this so it's a nothing burger
Kind of like lynching? Weird how they were perfectly fine passing that "unnecessary/redundant" bill but this one they seem to have a problem with.
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Kind of like lynching? Weird how they were perfectly fine passing that "unnecessary/redundant" bill but this one they seem to have a problem with.
BOOM!
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Kind of like lynching? Weird how they were perfectly fine passing that "unnecessary/redundant" bill but this one they seem to have a problem with.
Not sure your original point about lynching.. Did the lynching Bill you speak of hamper Law Enforcements response or the response of medical staff and impose fines or imprisonment if the Bills requirements weren't met? Probably not.. so the "Boom" of Pellius is actually funny
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They already have this law on the books - from 2002.
"previously passed legislation from 2002. The only difference between the 17-year-old law and Monday's was that the most recent one would have imposed fines and potential jail time for doctors who failed to comply."
This was a stunt - the next step would of been to say that 'born alive' means is they could be born alive, and then when can they be 'born alive', meaning another way to outlaw abortions.
agree
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Not sure your original point about lynching.. Did the lynching Bill you speak of hamper Law Enforcements response or the response of medical staff and impose fines or imprisonment if the Bills requirements weren't met? Probably not.. so the "Boom" of Pellius is actually funny
Not surprised at all that you don't get it.
It specifically states "any health care practitioner present" at the time of a birth "exercise the same degree of professional skill, care, and diligence to preserve the life and health of the child as a reasonably diligent and conscientious health care practitioner would render to any other child born alive at the same gestational age." After providing appropriate car the baby is to be "transported and admitted to a hospital".
The bill also states that anyone who "intentionally performs or attempts to perform an overt act that kills a child born alive" is subject to criminal prosecution for murder.
Guessing that you believe that abortion clinics have all of the necessary equipment, etc. that a hospital would have. They don't. Not really sorry that someone would be fined or imprisoned for murder/neglect.
Please post exact/full context words from the bill and what you exactly have an issue with those about. Or just scream "Women's rights!"
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Not surprised at all that you don't get it.
It specifically states "any health care practitioner present" at the time of a birth "exercise the same degree of professional skill, care, and diligence to preserve the life and health of the child as a reasonably diligent and conscientious health care practitioner would render to any other child born alive at the same gestational age." After providing appropriate car the baby is to be "transported and admitted to a hospital".
The bill also states that anyone who "intentionally performs or attempts to perform an overt act that kills a child born alive" is subject to criminal prosecution for murder.
Guessing that you believe that abortion clinics have all of the necessary equipment, etc. that a hospital would have. They don't. Not really sorry that someone would be fined or imprisoned for murder/neglect.
Please post exact/full context words from the bill and what you exactly have an issue with those about. Or just scream "Women's rights!"
My position is current law covered that and it was already legal for the Doctor to kill the baby after it was born. This bill was unnecessary and a political stunt.
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It was actually meant to get all Democrats especially those running for president on record as being for killing live babies. It worked.
This.
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This.
True.. if someone didn't look into it, they would think that was what it was.. But if someone was smart enough to read the bill, know that a bipartisan effort was passed in 2002 that followed the correct process, and this law would add nothing but problems then they would understand why the Democrats didn't fall for it.
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Coach,
Hypothetical question for you. If an American woman is raped by a Muslim and gets pregnant, would you be okay with her getting an abortion?
Furthermore, if during the abortion, the child was born alive, should the child get medical care?
What does it matter if the inseminator was a Muslim, Black, Jew, a Satanist...? It has nothing to do with the child. The child is innocent. Why shouldn't a born child not get medical care if needed under any circumstances?
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It's a simple runaround towards legal abortion. They would have used the law to outlaw all abortion by filing suits to investigate whether it was born alive. It's a shit law, Coach
So you are saying it's OK to kill newborn babies because it may lead to the outlawing of abortion?
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So you are saying it's OK to kill newborn babies because it may lead to the outlawing of abortion?
No, he's saying that newborn babies are NOT being killed and that there is already a law against it. For goodness sakes, what really happened with burger-gate? I'm starting to think it may have been more like a coney island episode.
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They already have this law on the books - from 2002.
"previously passed legislation from 2002. The only difference between the 17-year-old law and Monday's was that the most recent one would have imposed fines and potential jail time for doctors who failed to comply."
This was a stunt - the next step would of been to say that 'born alive' means is they could be born alive, and then when can they be 'born alive', meaning another way to outlaw abortions.
Not quite.
In 2002, Congress passed the Born-Alive Infants Protection Act, which guaranteed to infants born at any stage of development full legal rights. That bill, which passed with bipartisan support, did not include criminal penalties for doctors and did not impose specific requirements on medical care.
That bill has no teeth. No consequences for those who did not provide the necessary medical care. The bill says that it is illegal to kill or allow to die a newborn baby but, if you do, then no criminal penalties.
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Not surprised at all that you don't get it.
It specifically states "any health care practitioner present" at the time of a birth "exercise the same degree of professional skill, care, and diligence to preserve the life and health of the child as a reasonably diligent and conscientious health care practitioner would render to any other child born alive at the same gestational age." After providing appropriate car the baby is to be "transported and admitted to a hospital".
The bill also states that anyone who "intentionally performs or attempts to perform an overt act that kills a child born alive" is subject to criminal prosecution for murder.
Guessing that you believe that abortion clinics have all of the necessary equipment, etc. that a hospital would have. They don't. Not really sorry that someone would be fined or imprisoned for murder/neglect.
Please post exact/full context words from the bill and what you exactly have an issue with those about. Or just scream "Women's rights!"
Once again -- BOOM!
It's funny to you because you simply don't value the life of a newborn baby.
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No, he's saying that newborn babies are NOT being killed and that there is already a law against it. For goodness sakes, what really happened with burger-gate? I'm starting to think it may have been more like a coney island episode.
You're simply wrong. They are trying to claim that Governor Northam misspoke even though he is said "I can tell you exactly what would happen..." and later even defended his initial comments.
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You're simply wrong. They are trying to claim that Governor Northam misspoke even though he is said "I can tell you exactly what would happen..." and later even defended his initial comments.
No sir. I am not wrong. I don't give a rats ass what Ralph Northam has to say about this. The bipartisan law passed in 2002 has the bases covered.
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You're simply wrong. They are trying to claim that Governor Northam misspoke even though he is said "I can tell you exactly what would happen..." and later even defended his initial comments.
The left has been fully exposed for the degenerates that they are. Notice how they quickly went after the governor about "black face" from the 80's so this wouldn't be covered anymore.
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My position is current law covered that and it was already legal for the Doctor to kill the baby after it was born. This bill was unnecessary and a political stunt.
So, once again, as posted previously you think it is redundant but acted like you have no idea what I was referencing.....You keep changing your position. Is it redundant or did it add things you do not like? If so post examples with direct text to support your position as I already shot down your "hospital" talking point. Redundancy is not an issue and shouldn't be one. Pretty poor excuse that if there is nothing wrong with this bill you are only not voting for it because of redundancy. We see right through that. That hasn't stopped anyone before.
It wouldn't be a stunt/issue (if that was your concern) if they had voted yes as the republicans did.
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So you are saying it's OK to kill newborn babies because it may lead to the outlawing of abortion?
It's not a baby ...its just biological material. Care so much about life then why dont you adopt some children you dried raisin rather than trading blowjobs with homeless people....over a fucking cheeseburger at that...
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It's not a baby ...its just biological material. Care so much about life then why dont you adopt some children you dried raisin rather than trading blowjobs with homeless people....over a fucking cheeseburger at that...
A BORN baby is biological material? I'm glad you're a democrat.
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A BORN baby is biological material? I'm glad you're a democrat.
Unborn....a Republican doesnt give a shit about a baby AFTER ITS BORN
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What does it matter if the inseminator was a Muslim, Black, Jew, a Satanist...? It has nothing to do with the child. The child is innocent. Why shouldn't a born child not get medical care if needed under any circumstances?
The question was for Coach. Since you want to answer for him, here's a hypothetical question for you.
Lets say the dick wagging, quarter pounder thieving homeless man drags your niece into an ally, rapes her and gets her pregnant. Would you be okay with her getting an abortion?
Furthermore, if during the abortion, the child was born alive, should the child get medical care?
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The question was for Coach. Since you want to answer for him, here's a hypothetical question for you.
Lets say the dick wagging, quarter pounder thieving homeless man drags your niece into an ally, rapes her and gets her pregnant. Would you be okay with her getting an abortion?
Furthermore, if during the abortion, the child was born alive, should the child get medical care?
Love the question!
For the record my wife does abortions. The right does blow things out of proportion when it comes to Abortion, she never sees anything crazy in terms of living babies or close to.
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Unborn....a Republican doesnt give a shit about a baby AFTER ITS BORN
The Born Alive Protection Act is for babies alive outside the body. Are you for killing them like the Virginia governor?
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I don't get it.
So, before this possible law was put forth, doctors were allowed to murder babies outside of the womb without any criminal consequences?
Where does it allow this?
This is a topic I don't follow much.
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I don't get it.
So, before this possible law was put forth, doctors were allowed to murder babies outside of the womb without any criminal consequences?
Where does it allow this?
This is a topic I don't follow much.
There is nothing to get. "Infanticide" is a made up boogeyman(by the right) to further chip away at a woman's right to choose. There have been laws in place for nearly 20 years to protect children.
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There is nothing to get. "Infanticide" is a made up boogeyman(by the right) to further chip away at a woman's right to choose. There have been laws in place for nearly 20 years to protect children.
I’m surprised these idiots in this thread don’t know this. Or they know it and are just playing dumb?
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There is nothing to get. "Infanticide" is a made up boogeyman(by the right) to further chip away at a woman's right to choose. There have been laws in place for nearly 20 years to protect children.
So, just as thought, the Bill was a political stunt.
How did it pass so many by, that they actually believed that doctors were able to engage in "infanticide" without criminal consequences? ??? ???
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I don't get it.
So, before this possible law was put forth, doctors were allowed to murder babies outside of the womb without any criminal consequences?
Where does it allow this?
This is a topic I don't follow much.
The New York state senate passed a law allowing babies to be killed after they were born. It got a standing ovation by the New York state democrats on the floor when it was announced that it passed.
A week or so later Governor Ralph Northam of Virginia was asked about it on a radio show and he explained how the baby is made comfortable before it's killed. This went viral quick and that's when the blackface photos were found in the governor's college yearbook to throw this abortion issue under the rug.
There are other states like Virginia, Illinois and New Mexico that have similar laws to New York's being debated right now.
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There is nothing to get. "Infanticide" is a made up boogeyman(by the right) to further chip away at a woman's right to choose. There have been laws in place for nearly 20 years to protect children.
The woman should have the right to choose to kill her already born alive baby? When does it become a crime? When the baby is a year old, 2 years old, up to age 18?
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The woman should have the right to choose to kill her already born alive baby? When does it become a crime? When the baby is a year old, 2 years old, up to age 18?
If a lady gives birth, and decides to kill the baby in the hospital room, she won't face criminal charges?
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If a lady gives birth, and decides to kill the baby in the hospital room, she won't face criminal charges?
Yes. That is EXACTLY how the bill works. You can deliver a living baby and then LEGALLY put a pillow over its face until it is LIFELESS. Unrelated, but did you also know that President Obama was never really the president because his birth certificate was a phony and he actually has Kenyan citizenship. Also, he practices Wahabi Islam, his wife has a penis, he's a homosexual himself. People have also told me that it was his Pan-arab father along with Rafael Cruz that were the lynch pins in the Kennedy assassination. Hope this clears things up.
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The New York state senate passed a law allowing babies to be killed after they were born. It got a standing ovation by the New York state democrats on the floor when it was announced that it passed.
A week or so later Governor Ralph Northam of Virginia was asked about it on a radio show and he explained how the baby is made comfortable before it's killed. This went viral quick and that's when the blackface photos were found in the governor's college yearbook to throw this abortion issue under the rug.
There are other states like Virginia, Illinois and New Mexico that have similar laws to New York's being debated right now.
I said I could be wrong, as I do not know much about the topic.
Where can you find this law?
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Yes. That is EXACTLY how the bill works. You can deliver a living baby and then LEGALLY put a pillow over its face until it is LIFELESS. Unrelated, but did you also know that President Obama was never really the president because his birth certificate was a phony and he actually has Kenyan citizenship. Also, he practices Wahabi Islam, his wife has a penis, he's a homosexual himself. People have also told me that it was his Pan-arab father along with Rafael Cruz that were the lynch pins in the Kennedy assassination. Hope this clears things up.
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I said I could be wrong, as I do not know much about the topic.
Where can you find this law?
Have you tried...."the internet"? :o