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Title: Larry Wheels: 220 Pound Incline Press
Post by: SF1900 on February 26, 2019, 06:39:33 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/Btyw7AohmNG/

How long can his joints hold out for?  ??? ???
Title: Re: Larry Wheels: 220 Pound Incline Press
Post by: chaos on February 26, 2019, 06:50:25 PM
He's a beast, no doubt.
Title: Re: Larry Wheels: 220 Pound Incline Press
Post by: SF1900 on February 26, 2019, 06:55:24 PM
He's a beast, no doubt.

But at 24, the constant pounding, I wonder how much longer his body can take it.

440 pound log press

https://www.instagram.com/p/BuEg7CrBb8K/
Title: Re: Larry Wheels: 220 Pound Incline Press
Post by: chaos on February 26, 2019, 06:57:44 PM
But at 24, the constant pounding, I wonder how much longer his body can take it.

440 pound log press

https://www.instagram.com/p/BuEg7CrBb8K/
And he still has black man calves. ;D

Title: Re: Larry Wheels: 220 Pound Incline Press
Post by: SF1900 on February 26, 2019, 06:58:53 PM
And he still has black man calves. ;D



Chaos, do you think you could lift more than Mr. Wheels?
Title: Re: Larry Wheels: 220 Pound Incline Press
Post by: Hypertrophy on February 26, 2019, 06:59:46 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/Btyw7AohmNG/

How long can his joints hold out for?  ??? ???

Ronnie Coleman will know 😁
Title: Re: Larry Wheels: 220 Pound Incline Press
Post by: The Scott on February 26, 2019, 07:05:35 PM
Yes, he is strong.  But... He screams like a hippo in heat.  WTF?   And no, he ain't alone in this ritualistic squealing.  FTN.
Title: Re: Larry Wheels: 220 Pound Incline Press
Post by: SF1900 on February 26, 2019, 07:08:16 PM
Ronnie Coleman will know 😁

He may be in Ronnie's position much sooner.  :o :o
Title: Re: Larry Wheels: 220 Pound Incline Press
Post by: myt1 on February 26, 2019, 08:13:39 PM
That is crazy strength! :o
Title: Re: Larry Wheels: 220 Pound Incline Press
Post by: LittleJ on February 26, 2019, 08:27:15 PM
And he still has black man calves. ;D



We all wish to have monster calves like you ::)
Title: Re: Larry Wheels: 220 Pound Incline Press
Post by: WalterWhite on February 26, 2019, 08:58:37 PM
At 40:35 Larry talks about bodybuilding again at the end of the year and training at Oxygen. Earlier he said his goal weight is 330lb's.

Once this got going it was a pretty good podcast.

Title: Re: Larry Wheels: 220 Pound Incline Press
Post by: myt1 on February 26, 2019, 09:23:26 PM
At 40:35 Larry talks about bodybuilding again at the end of the year and training at Oxygen. Earlier he said his goal weight is 330lb's.

Once this got going it was a pretty good podcast.



I'm only somewhat familiar with him.  How tall is he, and what does he currently weigh?  Even if he's 6'2", 330lbs if fookin huge!
Title: Re: Larry Wheels: 220 Pound Incline Press
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 26, 2019, 09:25:51 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/Btyw7AohmNG/

How long can his joints hold out for?  ??? ???

He doesn't really train, he just takes drugs. The "training" you seen on IG and youtube are just for those clips.
Title: Re: Larry Wheels: 220 Pound Incline Press
Post by: pellius on February 26, 2019, 10:02:16 PM
He doesn't really train, he just takes drugs. The "training" you seen on IG and youtube are just for those clips.

How do you know this?
Title: Re: Larry Wheels: 220 Pound Incline Press
Post by: Dave D on February 26, 2019, 10:03:58 PM
I'm only somewhat familiar with him.  How tall is he, and what does he currently weigh?  Even if he's 6'2", 330lbs if fookin huge!

Danimal77 is posting again so i'm sure he'll be here to verify heights and weights shortly.
Title: Re: Larry Wheels: 220 Pound Incline Press
Post by: SF1900 on February 26, 2019, 10:07:35 PM
Danimal77 is posting again so i'm sure he'll be here to verify heights and weights shortly.

Also, you forgot Nether Animal.
Title: Re: Larry Wheels: 220 Pound Incline Press
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 26, 2019, 10:33:37 PM
How do you know this?

I was being facetious since almost everyone thinks that bodybuilding, powerlifting, strongman and diet are all drugs
Title: Re: Larry Wheels: 220 Pound Incline Press
Post by: WalterWhite on February 26, 2019, 10:49:47 PM
I'm only somewhat familiar with him.  How tall is he, and what does he currently weigh?  Even if he's 6'2", 330lbs if fookin huge!

I think he's about 280/285 right now and pushing for 300- 6'-6'1.  Looks very lean at that weight with crazy genetics.  


I was being facetious since almost everyone thinks that bodybuilding, powerlifting, strongman and diet are all drugs

Have you been watching his series with Thor?  Amazing how quickly he's picked up strongman movements! Also getting tons of views.
Title: Re: Larry Wheels: 220 Pound Incline Press
Post by: Rusty Trombone on February 26, 2019, 11:52:43 PM
Is that each dumbbell 220 lbs or total?  ???
Title: Re: Larry Wheels: 220 Pound Incline Press
Post by: Bevo on February 26, 2019, 11:56:07 PM
We all wish to have monster calves like you ::)

Calm down littlebrew, it’s not that serious
Title: Re: Larry Wheels: 220 Pound Incline Press
Post by: Bevo on February 27, 2019, 12:01:40 AM
He doesn't really train, he just takes drugs. The "training" you seen on IG and youtube are just for those clips.

Can you rep 405 on flat bench?
Title: Re: Larry Wheels: 220 Pound Incline Press
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 27, 2019, 12:03:08 AM
I think he's about 280/285 right now and pushing for 300- 6'-6'1.  Looks very lean at that weight with crazy genetics.  


Have you been watching his series with Thor?  Amazing how quickly he's picked up strongman movements! Also getting tons of views.


I watched him compete at the LA Fit Expo strongman event. This kid is legit. Big, strong and full of energy. Fun to watch.
Title: Re: Larry Wheels: 220 Pound Incline Press
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 27, 2019, 12:05:13 AM
Can you rep 405 on flat bench?

Not anymore. When I tore my pec the first time back in 2001, I was on my 7th rep when I went it tore.
Title: Re: Larry Wheels: 220 Pound Incline Press
Post by: Powerlift66 on February 27, 2019, 02:14:15 AM
The Larry and Thor series is fun to watch, Larry is a beast, but yes, he should learn from Coleman.
Im thinking Thor will take the Arnold and WSM again this year.
Title: Re: Larry Wheels: 220 Pound Incline Press
Post by: robcguns on February 27, 2019, 02:24:26 AM
He’s about 245-250 at 6’. his strength is retarded.
Title: Re: Larry Wheels: 220 Pound Incline Press
Post by: SF1900 on February 27, 2019, 04:32:06 AM
Is that each dumbbell 220 lbs or total?  ???

Each dumbbell.
Title: Re: Larry Wheels: 220 Pound Incline Press
Post by: The Scott on February 27, 2019, 04:51:07 AM
He doesn't really train, he just takes drugs. The "training" you seen on IG and youtube are just for those clips.

Well, we all know that without his little helpers (and I don't mean midgets) he would be...nothing.  The whole world knows that drugs make today's "champions".  The field isn't level because they all take them.  I'd say it's more like a road filled with potholes and speedbumps. 

He is strong and what he does to get that way is his choice but that doesn't mean we can't laugh our ass off about the truth of it.  ;D
Title: Re: Larry Wheels: 220 Pound Incline Press
Post by: SF1900 on February 27, 2019, 05:40:20 AM
Coach doesn’t want to accept the fact that without steroids, these guys would be nothing.

They would just look like ordinary gym rats.

It must be hard for Coach to grapple with this level of contradiction.
Title: Re: Larry Wheels: 220 Pound Incline Press
Post by: robcguns on February 27, 2019, 06:12:46 AM
Is that each dumbbell 220 lbs or total?  ???
If total no one would talk about it.Each,he’s a fucking freaky strong bastard.
Title: Re: Larry Wheels: 220 Pound Incline Press
Post by: Dave D on February 27, 2019, 07:20:34 AM
Also, you forgot Nether Animal.

I did.

In my excitement of realizing Danimal77 was back I simply overlooked NA.
Title: Re: Larry Wheels: 220 Pound Incline Press
Post by: milone79 on February 27, 2019, 07:52:53 AM
He's a perfect example of being "ALL DRUGS" he admitted to have started with anabolics at about age 15...he is NOTHING without the drugs and likely will be dead soon!!!
Title: Re: Larry Wheels: 220 Pound Incline Press
Post by: IroNat on February 27, 2019, 07:58:28 AM
Coach doesn’t want to accept the fact that without steroids, these guys would be nothing.

They would just look like ordinary gym rats.

It must be hard for Coach to grapple with this level of contradiction.

At some point Wheels genetic heart, liver and kidney abnormalities will kick in.

Too bad.

But it's better to die by 40 than live the unfulfilled life.
Title: Re: Larry Wheels: 220 Pound Incline Press
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 27, 2019, 08:00:02 AM
Coach doesn’t want to accept the fact that without steroids, these guys would be nothing.

They would just look like ordinary gym rats.

It must be hard for Coach to grapple with this level of contradiction.

I can do this all day. Where did I ever state “without drugs”? Btw, no, he wouldn’t look like your ordinary gym rat and would definitely still be the strongest in almost any gym. When you’re ready to discuss actual training modalities for different types of goals let me know.
Title: Re: Larry Wheels: 220 Pound Incline Press
Post by: DanM on February 27, 2019, 08:00:14 AM
Many delusional posters in this thread. As if they or their gym buddies could be on all the pharmaceutical grade steroids in the world and could come close to being able to press 220lbs dumbbells. This guy is a genetic freak. Either you have that factor or like the vast majority of us, you don't.
Title: Re: Larry Wheels: 220 Pound Incline Press
Post by: IroNat on February 27, 2019, 08:22:22 AM
Many delusional posters in this thread. As if they or their gym buddies could be on all the pharmaceutical grade steroids in the world and could come close to being able to press 220lbs dumbbells. This guy is a genetic freak. Either you have that factor or like the vast majority of us, you don't.

What "factor"?

The genetic factor that causes extreme reaction to growth drugs?

Have you seen his drug regimen?  He makes Steve Michalak look like a  piker.
Title: Re: Larry Wheels: 220 Pound Incline Press
Post by: Dave D on February 27, 2019, 08:34:27 AM
Many delusional posters in this thread. As if they or their gym buddies could be on all the pharmaceutical grade steroids in the world and could come close to being able to press 220lbs dumbbells. This guy is a genetic drug abusing freak. Either you have that factor or like the vast majority of us, you don't.

Fixed.

And let's calm down. Wheels is strong. BUT we have seen this story before with Ronnie Coleman, who was allegedly drug free during his early 20s.

Dude isn't built like heavyweight strongmen.

Remember Wheels can't win.

He can be the strongest  odd lifter of all time but if he ends up a wreck like RC it won't matter here.

Also the greatest drug free lifter of all time is Mark Henry.
Title: Re: Larry Wheels: 220 Pound Incline Press
Post by: SF1900 on February 27, 2019, 08:53:33 AM
I can do this all day. Where did I ever state “without drugs”? Btw, no, he wouldn’t look like your ordinary gym rat and would definitely still be the strongest in almost any gym. When you’re ready to discuss actual training modalities for different types of goals let me know.

lol. Keep drinking the Kool Aid.

Wheels would look absolutely nothing like he does without drugs. Not even close. He wouldn't be lifting what he lifts, looking like he does, etc.
Title: Re: Larry Wheels: 220 Pound Incline Press
Post by: The Italian Lifter on February 27, 2019, 09:01:54 AM
P. C. Also very impressive picture
Title: Re: Larry Wheels: 220 Pound Incline Press
Post by: Hypertrophy on February 27, 2019, 09:04:57 AM
I can do this all day. Where did I ever state “without drugs”? Btw, no, he wouldn’t look like your ordinary gym rat and would definitely still be the strongest in almost any gym. When you’re ready to discuss actual training modalities for different types of goals let me know.

Coach- sorry - but no one will ever know what his true strength level is sans drugs. He could be a weakling. His story is literally "all about drugs"

"Mentioning that he has used as much as 1200 mg of testosterone enanthate, 450 mg of trenbolone enanthate, and 400 mg of trenbolone acetate per week (the kind of dosage that definitely makes your head spin), Williams also goes on to describe his own experimentation with 16 week cycles of different steroids, hormones, and other mass building solutions"

"He also commented that anadrol had “by far the most strength (and) least side effects” and that he stays “on gear” all year long, calling it a “life time commitment.”"

https://www.steroidal.com/steroids-news/powerlifter-larry-wheels-williams-talks-steroid-stacks/
https://barbend.com/larry-wheels-steroids/
Title: Re: Larry Wheels: 220 Pound Incline Press
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 27, 2019, 09:24:22 AM
lol. Keep drinking the Kool Aid.

Wheels would look absolutely nothing like he does without drugs. Not even close. He wouldn't be lifting what he lifts, looking like he does, etc.

So I guess what you're saying is that there is no way that a someone you know personally on here couldn't possibly be as strong as he is without drugs. When you learn how to REALLY train for strength come back and let me know then tell me who's drinking the kool aid.
Title: Re: Larry Wheels: 220 Pound Incline Press
Post by: blackpele on February 27, 2019, 10:02:22 AM
Video link?
Title: Re: Larry Wheels: 220 Pound Incline Press
Post by: SF1900 on February 27, 2019, 10:08:09 AM
So I guess what you're saying is that there is no way that a someone you know personally on here couldn't possibly be as strong as he is without drugs. When you learn how to REALLY train for strength come back and let me know then tell me who's drinking the kool aid.

What I am saying is that he would not look anything like this without drugs and wouldn't be as strong as he his without his drugs.

(https://cdn2-thevladarcompany.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/larry-wheels-gainssss-header-1068x566.jpg)

(https://www.bodybuilding.com/images/2018/march/unconditional-larry-wheels-williams-crushes-tall.jpg)
Title: Re: Larry Wheels: 220 Pound Incline Press
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 27, 2019, 10:14:00 AM
What I am saying is that he would not look anything like this without drugs and wouldn't be as strong as he his without his drugs.

(https://cdn2-thevladarcompany.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/larry-wheels-gainssss-header-1068x566.jpg)

(https://www.bodybuilding.com/images/2018/march/unconditional-larry-wheels-williams-crushes-tall.jpg)

Jesus fucking Christ, I never said you couldn't. What part of this are you missing????
Title: Re: Larry Wheels: 220 Pound Incline Press
Post by: SF1900 on February 27, 2019, 10:24:19 AM
Jesus fucking Christ, I never said you couldn't. What part of this are you missing????

So, then you admit, without drugs, he would not look like that?

That was my entire point.  ??? ??? Nothing more, nothing less.
Title: Re: Larry Wheels: 220 Pound Incline Press
Post by: LittleJ on February 27, 2019, 10:29:05 AM
Im concern with Coach. He doesnt look to well from that video he posted.
Title: Re: Larry Wheels: 220 Pound Incline Press
Post by: robcguns on February 27, 2019, 10:39:58 AM
Obviously a crazy strong man no question.But much stronger than he looks as he is shredded and jacked no doubt but not crazy size for his strength.I think naturally hed be pressing 150s so no matter what one of the strongest men around in the public eye at this time.
Title: Re: Larry Wheels: 220 Pound Incline Press
Post by: Hypertrophy on February 27, 2019, 10:42:37 AM
So I guess what you're saying is that there is no way that a someone you know personally on here couldn't possibly be as strong as he is without drugs. When you learn how to REALLY train for strength come back and let me know then tell me who's drinking the kool aid.

Dear god you really are an obnoxious ass. 99% of the time I agree with you on here and in a split second you play your high and mighty bullshit game. Where the hell would you be today without anabolic steroids? If you are such a freaking genius on training and physiology you would be the ultimate natty. Instead you use drugs to attain your goals while pretending it is your amazing knowledge of training. Seems to have lead to your current fantastic cardiovascular condition.
Title: Re: Larry Wheels: 220 Pound Incline Press
Post by: Hypertrophy on February 27, 2019, 10:54:09 AM



"Looking back now to when I was 17 and decided to pin for the first time."

Funny how the video shows a magic jump in size at age 18. And I thought it was simply because he grabbed a copy of Mel Siff's Supertraining book. You know- where you can learn all those "secrets" of strength training. Instead he got himself a dose of Superdrol...

"In the clip, the 21-year-old powerlifter explains that as a teenager he was heavily involved in alcohol and drugs until he decided to change his habits and “replace one vice with another, and that was steroids.”

    I loved powerlifting. I wanted to get bigger, I wanted to get stronger, I wanted to get ripped. I wanted to be a demigod, to say the least. I wanted to be a comic book hero.

At first, he took the approach of “more is better.” He was taking up to 1,200 milligrams of testosterone and his regime at one time included pro hormones, trenbolone, dianabol, and a “clone” of superdrol, all in the same sixteen-week cycle."
 
Remember folks- it's just superior training techniques, taught to you by by self anointed "coaches" who happen to know how to score PEDs on the side.

Title: Re: Larry Wheels: 220 Pound Incline Press
Post by: SF1900 on February 27, 2019, 10:55:15 AM
Dear god you really are an obnoxious ass. 99% of the time I agree with you on here and in a split second you play your high and mighty bullshit game. Where the hell would you be today without anabolic steroids? If you are such a freaking genius on training and physiology you would be the ultimate natty. Instead you use drugs to attain your goals while pretending it is your amazing knowledge of training. Seems to have lead to your current fantastic cardiovascular condition.


Without anabolic steroids, most professional sports people would not be where they are now.

The drugs have become so ridiculously powerful, that at a good genetic response will turn you into a freak, even with crappy dieting and subpar training.

Coach just doesn't want to admit it.
Title: Re: Larry Wheels: 220 Pound Incline Press
Post by: The Italian Lifter on February 27, 2019, 11:05:10 AM
Forgive me if this is a naive question but: since I know in the US Peds are a serious felony, talking about use so openly on a YouTube videos means having the police at the door. Or am I missing something??
Title: Re: Larry Wheels: 220 Pound Incline Press
Post by: Dave D on February 27, 2019, 11:13:42 AM
I agree with Coach and Hypertrophy, I also think Larry Wheels is drug free. SF1900 is one of the haters Phil Heath talks about.

Im sure hes using creatine and glutamine, you dont get that strong and ripped without that combo, but we can still consider him natural. Just wait until Larry decides to use anabolics, he will be a complete FREAK!


I watched a video clip where Larry said he had a difficult life growing up and had to drop out of school at 15. I give the dude credit for what hes accomplished and overcome. He comes across as a genuine, honest and humble dude.

 I hope for his sake hes cashing in on his fitness celebrity.
Title: Re: Larry Wheels: 220 Pound Incline Press
Post by: IroNat on February 27, 2019, 11:21:58 AM
Forgive me if this is a naive question but: since I know in the US Peds are a serious felony, talking about use so openly on a YouTube videos means having the police at the door. Or am I missing something??

Never could figure it out myself.

There are plenty of police in the USA that are obviously using steroids themselves and nobody in law enforcement seems to bother them.

My hypothesis is that the feds are only after dealers, not users.

The feds are also mainly concentrating on terrorism since 9/11.

As far as local police they will bust you if they catch you with steroids but I don't think they actively look for steroid users.  Heroin, meth, etc. are much bigger problems.
Title: Re: Larry Wheels: 220 Pound Incline Press
Post by: The Italian Lifter on February 27, 2019, 11:24:55 AM
Just to be clear : I wasn't implying that he should get busted.
I think everybody must be free to do whatever that person wants to do (as long as it's not hurting others).

I was just curious since in that video he's mentioning his use.
Title: Re: Larry Wheels: 220 Pound Incline Press
Post by: robcguns on February 27, 2019, 11:25:47 AM
Forgive me if this is a naive question but: since I know in the US Peds are a serious felony, talking about use so openly on a YouTube videos means having the police at the door. Or am I missing something??

Nobody cares,one gym I go to occasionally has around 20-30 juicers that I know of and a few of them are dealers who are very open about it and they sell to cops I know.
Title: Re: Larry Wheels: 220 Pound Incline Press
Post by: The Italian Lifter on February 27, 2019, 11:26:36 AM
Never could figure it out myself.

There are plenty of police in the USA that are obviously using steroids themselves and nobody in law enforcement seems to bother them.

My hypothesis is that the feds are only after dealers, not users.

The feds are also mainly concentrating on terrorism since 9/11.

As far as local police they will bust you if they catch you with steroids but I don't think they actively look for steroid users.  Heroin, meth, etc. are much bigger problems.

Your hypothesis do make sense IN. Maybe they're chasing dealers instead.
Title: Re: Larry Wheels: 220 Pound Incline Press
Post by: The Italian Lifter on February 27, 2019, 11:28:44 AM
Nobody cares,one gun I go to occasionally has around 20-30 juicers that I know of and a few of them are dealers who are very open about it and they sell to cops I know.

I see, Rob. In any case I don't want to hijack the thread, sorry I was just curious.
Title: Re: Larry Wheels: 220 Pound Incline Press
Post by: robcguns on February 27, 2019, 11:36:23 AM
I see, Rob. In any case I don't want to hijack the thread, sorry I was just curious.

All threads on Getbig get hijacked so no worries there.
Title: Re: Larry Wheels: 220 Pound Incline Press
Post by: Strubbbbs on February 27, 2019, 12:17:08 PM
Wheels is incredibly strong.

But the most mind-boggling aspect is how strong he is and simultaneously how lean he is.

Theoretically, he could be the #1 Strongman in the world if he just said fuck aesthetics and put on 30 - 50 lbs of fat on his frame.

How strong would he be then? And the dude is 24??

The whole thing is so off the charts right now it doesn't even make sense.
Title: Re: Larry Wheels: 220 Pound Incline Press
Post by: robcguns on February 27, 2019, 12:21:39 PM
Wheels is incredibly strong.

But the most mind-boggling aspect is how strong he is and simultaneously how lean he is.

Theoretically, he could be the #1 Strongman in the world if he just said fuck aesthetics and put on 30 - 50 lbs of fat on his frame.

How strong would he be then? And the dude is 24??

The whole thing is so off the charts right now it doesn't even make sense.


Exactly
Title: Re: Larry Wheels: 220 Pound Incline Press
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 27, 2019, 12:49:28 PM
This is stupid. Find me a post where I ever said drugs were not necessary. Just one. Find it. Find me a post where I said Wheels didn’t take drugs. YOU’RE the one that said Training was only small equation and the drugs did the rest.
Title: Re: Larry Wheels: 220 Pound Incline Press
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 27, 2019, 12:55:04 PM
Dear god you really are an obnoxious ass. 99% of the time I agree with you on here and in a split second you play your high and mighty bullshit game. Where the hell would you be today without anabolic steroids? If you are such a freaking genius on training and physiology you would be the ultimate natty. Instead you use drugs to attain your goals while pretending it is your amazing knowledge of training. Seems to have lead to your current fantastic cardiovascular condition.


I’m not anywhere and I’m playing High and mighty to anyone. I’m simply pointing out that he (unlike yourself) doesn’t understand Training modalities enough to make such accusations. We all know that once you reach a certain point and get past that point, drugs are necessary and that a choice some have to make if they compete. But again, by SF’s own account, Training is just a small equation, pretty sure he said like 2 or 5%. That sheer ignorance
Title: Re: Larry Wheels: 220 Pound Incline Press
Post by: MAXX on February 27, 2019, 01:18:32 PM
Well drugs IS everything in strength sports.

Pete Rubish said straight out in his vids recently that dosages dictates the power levels.. And he thinks it's just crazy how some guys just stays on high dosages year around and never cycles off at all.

Dallas Mccarver was on 10grams test upon his Death and god knows how much other stuff. And he was insanely strong, stronger than some of the top strongmen in the World today. That pretty much speaks for itself.
Title: Re: Larry Wheels: 220 Pound Incline Press
Post by: SF1900 on February 27, 2019, 01:19:56 PM
This is stupid. Find me a post where I ever said drugs were not necessary. Just one. Find it. Find me a post where I said Wheels didn’t take drugs. YOU’RE the one that said Training was only small equation and the drugs did the rest.

Training is a small part, IF you have the right genetic response to drugs and access to the right drugs.

Title: Re: Larry Wheels: 220 Pound Incline Press
Post by: Hulkotron on February 27, 2019, 01:27:18 PM
Forgive me if this is a naive question but: since I know in the US Peds are a serious felony, talking about use so openly on a YouTube videos means having the police at the door. Or am I missing something??

We tend to go after the dealers/sellers and not so much the users.
Title: Re: Larry Wheels: 220 Pound Incline Press
Post by: SF1900 on February 27, 2019, 01:30:16 PM
Well drugs IS everything in strength sports.

Pete Rubish said straight out in his vids recently that dosages dictates the power levels.. And he thinks it's just crazy how some guys just stays on high dosages year around and never cycles off at all.

Dallas Mccarver was on 10grams test upon his Death and god knows how much other stuff. And he was insanely strong, stronger than some of the top strongmen in the World today. That pretty much speaks for itself.

Wrong.

It’s all about diet and training.

Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Larry Wheels: 220 Pound Incline Press
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 27, 2019, 02:28:12 PM
Wrong.

It’s all about diet and training.

Hope this helps.

To think you went to school to work at AutoZone. The AOC School of knowledge
Title: Re: Larry Wheels: 220 Pound Incline Press
Post by: Dave D on February 27, 2019, 02:37:30 PM
Wrong.

It’s all about diet and training.

Hope this helps.

SF1900 I agree.

If Larry didnt train and eat like an animal he'd have no muscle and only functional strength (moving furniture or firewood or something in a wheelbarrow).

Granted I think we all agree hes using more than 5 grams a day on monohydrate.
Title: Re: Larry Wheels: 220 Pound Incline Press
Post by: SF1900 on February 27, 2019, 02:38:05 PM
To think you went to school to work at AutoZone. The AOC School of knowledge

Coach, if you had to put a percentage regarding the breakdown of diet, training, genetics, and drugs, how would you break it down? I know it varies by person, but I am asking for a general breakdown regarding top-tier athletes.
Title: Re: Larry Wheels: 220 Pound Incline Press
Post by: SF1900 on February 27, 2019, 02:45:54 PM
SF1900 I agree.

If Larry didnt train and eat like an animal he'd have no muscle and only functional strength (moving furniture or firewood or something in a wheelbarrow).

Granted I think we all agree hes using more than 5 grams a day on monohydrate.

He's 100% natural. Only eats organic food and drinks soy milk

(https://www.larrywheels.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/about-img1.jpg)
Title: Re: Larry Wheels: 220 Pound Incline Press
Post by: Bevo on February 27, 2019, 03:31:39 PM
Dear god you really are an obnoxious ass. 99% of the time I agree with you on here and in a split second you play your high and mighty bullshit game. Where the hell would you be today without anabolic steroids? If you are such a freaking genius on training and physiology you would be the ultimate natty. Instead you use drugs to attain your goals while pretending it is your amazing knowledge of training. Seems to have lead to your current fantastic cardiovascular condition.


I seriously fear for coach’s health, he’s closing in on 60

Title: Re: Larry Wheels: 220 Pound Incline Press
Post by: Strubbbbs on February 27, 2019, 03:32:13 PM
This is stupid. Find me a post where I ever said drugs were not necessary. Just one. Find it. Find me a post where I said Wheels didn’t take drugs. YOU’RE the one that said Training was only small equation and the drugs did the rest.

Enough with DRUGS. Holy shit. Everyone is on. Everyone is a responder. Obviously. Who cares.

Would any person be the same on drugs as off? No. How much is drugs? Who the fuck knows? Who the fuck cares.

It's a given. It's like saying LeBron is great at basketball because he has advantageous limb ratios and fast twitch fibers etc etc and that if he didn't have those, he'd just be an average dude and probably not even in the NBA... No. Shit. Does Wayne Gretzky have the most points ever in the history of the NHL because for some reason his brain was wired a certain way that gave him an advantage in hockey over other players.... YES! Do analysts blabber about how if he had a different brain that didn't respond as well to a hockey rink etc he'd just be average... NO! It's pointless.

Larry Wheels is fucking strong. It doesn't matter if he's drinking fucking Kangaroo piss and he has a great response to it. You guys are like a dog chasing it's own tail. Some of you are so lost in here you can see the forest through the trees. You're just repeating and stating the obvious ad nauseum to the point that it's become a game of semantics.

Is it drugs? YES! Is it genetics? YES! Is it his upbringing that had an influence on him picking up a weight? YES! Is it the girl that rejected him when he was young and he decided the way to "get women" was to be big and strong? MAYBE! My point is, who fucking cares??

You idiots are on a bodybuilding forum and whining and arguing about drugs?? Wake up!

Title: Re: Larry Wheels: 220 Pound Incline Press
Post by: Bevo on February 27, 2019, 03:39:33 PM
Obviously a crazy strong man no question.But much stronger than he looks as he is shredded and jacked no doubt but not crazy size for his strength.I think naturally hed be pressing 150s so no matter what one of the strongest men around in the public eye at this time.

So he would have done 150’s looking like he did at 17 drug free?
Title: Re: Larry Wheels: 220 Pound Incline Press
Post by: robcguns on February 27, 2019, 03:47:12 PM
So he would have done 150’s looking like he did at 17 drug free?

No but I’m thinking he is naturally very strong so if he was natural at his age now I’m sure he would be doing 150s,there has to be some crazy base strength.I know guys who do 2 grams of test a week and can’t do 150s So genetics play a role and obviously he’s playing with a stacked deck either way.
Title: Re: Larry Wheels: 220 Pound Incline Press
Post by: WalterWhite on February 27, 2019, 04:21:21 PM
At 11:00 he discusses when he started to use.  The rest of the video is a synopsis of his dysfunctional life and recreational drug use.

He admits he wanted to be good at something and was willing to do anything to reach his goals.




Title: Re: Larry Wheels: 220 Pound Incline Press
Post by: Bevo on February 27, 2019, 04:26:22 PM
At 11:00 he discusses when he started to use.  The rest of the video is a synopsis of his dysfunctional life and recreational drug use.

He admits he wanted to be good at something and was willing to do anything to reach his goals.






At 24, he might end up like Dallas soon rather than later
Title: Re: Larry Wheels: 220 Pound Incline Press
Post by: Hulkotron on February 27, 2019, 04:33:15 PM
Dead by 45 with one of the biggest coffins in his town.
Title: Re: Larry Wheels: 220 Pound Incline Press
Post by: robcguns on February 27, 2019, 04:35:59 PM
Dead by 45 with one of the biggest coffins in his town.

I’ll give him till 30
Title: Re: Larry Wheels: 220 Pound Incline Press
Post by: chaos on February 27, 2019, 04:57:45 PM
Strong dude and his series with Thor makes me want to hang out with them.
Title: Re: Larry Wheels: 220 Pound Incline Press
Post by: SF1900 on February 27, 2019, 05:37:02 PM
Strong dude and his series with Thor makes me want to hang out with them.

Chaos, break down the percent in terms of diet, training, drug use, and genetics, in terms of performance.
Title: Re: Larry Wheels: 220 Pound Incline Press
Post by: WalterWhite on February 27, 2019, 05:50:55 PM
Strong dude and his series with Thor makes me want to hang out with them.

Great gym vibe.  Both seem like great guys.





I’ll give him till 30

Your forgetting Rich P made it into his late 40's.
Title: Re: Larry Wheels: 220 Pound Incline Press
Post by: chaos on February 27, 2019, 09:24:03 PM
Great gym vibe.  Both seem like great guys.





Your forgetting Rich P made it into his late 40's.
Their videos are motivating to me and I hate watching lifting videos.
Title: Re: Larry Wheels: 220 Pound Incline Press
Post by: K A N N I B A L on February 27, 2019, 09:38:16 PM
Well, we all know that without his little helpers (and I don't mean midgets) he would be...nothing.  The whole world knows that drugs make today's "champions".  The field isn't level because they all take them.  I'd say it's more like a road filled with potholes and speedbumps. 

He is strong and what he does to get that way is his choice but that doesn't mean we can't laugh our ass off about the truth of it.  ;D

I highly doubt he'd be nothing. Tons of people take tons of drugs, and still hes miles ahead of them. Even drug free hed be well above the average drug user
Title: Re: Larry Wheels: 220 Pound Incline Press
Post by: WalterWhite on February 27, 2019, 09:40:21 PM
Their videos are motivating to me and I hate watching lifting videos.

You would have loved the small powerlifting/bodybuilding gyms in the 80's. Lots of camaraderie.

 
Title: Re: Larry Wheels: 220 Pound Incline Press
Post by: Bevo on February 27, 2019, 09:46:00 PM
You would have loved the small powerlifting/bodybuilding gyms in the 80's. Lots of camaraderie.

 

Schmoetastic!!
Title: Re: Larry Wheels: 220 Pound Incline Press
Post by: Darren Avey on February 28, 2019, 02:11:51 AM
Larry would dominate ufc
Title: Re: Larry Wheels: 220 Pound Incline Press
Post by: SuperTed on February 28, 2019, 03:56:31 AM
Theoretically, he could be the #1 Strongman in the world if he just said fuck aesthetics and put on 30 - 50 lbs of fat on his frame.

It doesn't necessarily work like that. He could put on 100lbs of fat and barely be much stronger then he currently is.
Title: Re: Larry Wheels: 220 Pound Incline Press
Post by: The Scott on February 28, 2019, 04:43:55 AM
I highly doubt he'd be nothing. Tons of people take tons of drugs, and still hes miles ahead of them. Even drug free hed be well above the average drug user

You could very well be right, sir.  I can only look at what is presented and that (by his own admission) is built pretty much on lots of drugs.
He is very strong and will doubtless become even more so over the next few years. 
Title: Re: Larry Wheels: 220 Pound Incline Press
Post by: Strubbbbs on February 28, 2019, 12:11:18 PM
It doesn't necessarily work like that. He could put on 100lbs of fat and barely be much stronger then he currently is.

How much stronger is debatable. But he would certainly gain strength just from having some added weight and probably make it easier for his body to get stronger if it has some fat reserves.
Title: Re: Larry Wheels: 220 Pound Incline Press
Post by: IroNat on February 28, 2019, 02:19:51 PM
I applaud Larry Wheels for turning his life around from broken home to steroid drug addict.

A true success story and great example for today's troubled youth.