Larry Wheels: 220 Pound Incline Press

[Dave D]

I agree with Coach and Hypertrophy, I also think Larry Wheels is drug free. SF1900 is one of the haters Phil Heath talks about.

Im sure hes using creatine and glutamine, you dont get that strong and ripped without that combo, but we can still consider him natural. Just wait until Larry decides to use anabolics, he will be a complete FREAK!


I watched a video clip where Larry said he had a difficult life growing up and had to drop out of school at 15. I give the dude credit for what hes accomplished and overcome. He comes across as a genuine, honest and humble dude.

 I hope for his sake hes cashing in on his fitness celebrity.

[IroNat]

Forgive me if this is a naive question but: since I know in the US Peds are a serious felony, talking about use so openly on a YouTube videos means having the police at the door. Or am I missing something??

Never could figure it out myself.

There are plenty of police in the USA that are obviously using steroids themselves and nobody in law enforcement seems to bother them.

My hypothesis is that the feds are only after dealers, not users.

The feds are also mainly concentrating on terrorism since 9/11.

As far as local police they will bust you if they catch you with steroids but I don't think they actively look for steroid users.  Heroin, meth, etc. are much bigger problems.

[The Italian Lifter]

Just to be clear : I wasn't implying that he should get busted.
I think everybody must be free to do whatever that person wants to do (as long as it's not hurting others).

I was just curious since in that video he's mentioning his use.

[robcguns]

Forgive me if this is a naive question but: since I know in the US Peds are a serious felony, talking about use so openly on a YouTube videos means having the police at the door. Or am I missing something??

Nobody cares,one gym I go to occasionally has around 20-30 juicers that I know of and a few of them are dealers who are very open about it and they sell to cops I know.

[The Italian Lifter]

Never could figure it out myself.

There are plenty of police in the USA that are obviously using steroids themselves and nobody in law enforcement seems to bother them.

My hypothesis is that the feds are only after dealers, not users.

The feds are also mainly concentrating on terrorism since 9/11.

As far as local police they will bust you if they catch you with steroids but I don't think they actively look for steroid users.  Heroin, meth, etc. are much bigger problems.

Your hypothesis do make sense IN. Maybe they're chasing dealers instead.

[The Italian Lifter]

Nobody cares,one gun I go to occasionally has around 20-30 juicers that I know of and a few of them are dealers who are very open about it and they sell to cops I know.

I see, Rob. In any case I don't want to hijack the thread, sorry I was just curious.

[robcguns]

I see, Rob. In any case I don't want to hijack the thread, sorry I was just curious.

All threads on Getbig get hijacked so no worries there.

[Strubbbbs]

Wheels is incredibly strong.

But the most mind-boggling aspect is how strong he is and simultaneously how lean he is.

Theoretically, he could be the #1 Strongman in the world if he just said fuck aesthetics and put on 30 - 50 lbs of fat on his frame.

How strong would he be then? And the dude is 24??

The whole thing is so off the charts right now it doesn't even make sense.

[robcguns]

Wheels is incredibly strong.

But the most mind-boggling aspect is how strong he is and simultaneously how lean he is.

Theoretically, he could be the #1 Strongman in the world if he just said fuck aesthetics and put on 30 - 50 lbs of fat on his frame.

How strong would he be then? And the dude is 24??

The whole thing is so off the charts right now it doesn't even make sense.

Exactly

[Coach is Back!]

This is stupid. Find me a post where I ever said drugs were not necessary. Just one. Find it. Find me a post where I said Wheels didn’t take drugs. YOU’RE the one that said Training was only small equation and the drugs did the rest.

[Coach is Back!]

Dear god you really are an obnoxious ass. 99% of the time I agree with you on here and in a split second you play your high and mighty bullshit game. Where the hell would you be today without anabolic steroids? If you are such a freaking genius on training and physiology you would be the ultimate natty. Instead you use drugs to attain your goals while pretending it is your amazing knowledge of training. Seems to have lead to your current fantastic cardiovascular condition.

I’m not anywhere and I’m playing High and mighty to anyone. I’m simply pointing out that he (unlike yourself) doesn’t understand Training modalities enough to make such accusations. We all know that once you reach a certain point and get past that point, drugs are necessary and that a choice some have to make if they compete. But again, by SF’s own account, Training is just a small equation, pretty sure he said like 2 or 5%. That sheer ignorance

[MAXX]

Well drugs IS everything in strength sports.

Pete Rubish said straight out in his vids recently that dosages dictates the power levels.. And he thinks it's just crazy how some guys just stays on high dosages year around and never cycles off at all.

Dallas Mccarver was on 10grams test upon his Death and god knows how much other stuff. And he was insanely strong, stronger than some of the top strongmen in the World today. That pretty much speaks for itself.

[SF1900]

This is stupid. Find me a post where I ever said drugs were not necessary. Just one. Find it. Find me a post where I said Wheels didn’t take drugs. YOU’RE the one that said Training was only small equation and the drugs did the rest.

Training is a small part, IF you have the right genetic response to drugs and access to the right drugs.

[Hulkotron]

Forgive me if this is a naive question but: since I know in the US Peds are a serious felony, talking about use so openly on a YouTube videos means having the police at the door. Or am I missing something??

We tend to go after the dealers/sellers and not so much the users.

[SF1900]

Well drugs IS everything in strength sports.

Pete Rubish said straight out in his vids recently that dosages dictates the power levels.. And he thinks it's just crazy how some guys just stays on high dosages year around and never cycles off at all.

Dallas Mccarver was on 10grams test upon his Death and god knows how much other stuff. And he was insanely strong, stronger than some of the top strongmen in the World today. That pretty much speaks for itself.

Wrong.

It’s all about diet and training.

Hope this helps.

[Coach is Back!]

Wrong.

It’s all about diet and training.

Hope this helps.

To think you went to school to work at AutoZone. The AOC School of knowledge

[Dave D]

Wrong.

It’s all about diet and training.

Hope this helps.

SF1900 I agree.

If Larry didnt train and eat like an animal he'd have no muscle and only functional strength (moving furniture or firewood or something in a wheelbarrow).

Granted I think we all agree hes using more than 5 grams a day on monohydrate.

[SF1900]

To think you went to school to work at AutoZone. The AOC School of knowledge

Coach, if you had to put a percentage regarding the breakdown of diet, training, genetics, and drugs, how would you break it down? I know it varies by person, but I am asking for a general breakdown regarding top-tier athletes.

[SF1900]

SF1900 I agree.

If Larry didnt train and eat like an animal he'd have no muscle and only functional strength (moving furniture or firewood or something in a wheelbarrow).

Granted I think we all agree hes using more than 5 grams a day on monohydrate.

He's 100% natural. Only eats organic food and drinks soy milk

[Bevo]

Dear god you really are an obnoxious ass. 99% of the time I agree with you on here and in a split second you play your high and mighty bullshit game. Where the hell would you be today without anabolic steroids? If you are such a freaking genius on training and physiology you would be the ultimate natty. Instead you use drugs to attain your goals while pretending it is your amazing knowledge of training. Seems to have lead to your current fantastic cardiovascular condition.

I seriously fear for coach’s health, he’s closing in on 60

[Strubbbbs]

This is stupid. Find me a post where I ever said drugs were not necessary. Just one. Find it. Find me a post where I said Wheels didn’t take drugs. YOU’RE the one that said Training was only small equation and the drugs did the rest.

Enough with DRUGS. Holy shit. Everyone is on. Everyone is a responder. Obviously. Who cares.

Would any person be the same on drugs as off? No. How much is drugs? Who the fuck knows? Who the fuck cares.

It's a given. It's like saying LeBron is great at basketball because he has advantageous limb ratios and fast twitch fibers etc etc and that if he didn't have those, he'd just be an average dude and probably not even in the NBA... No. Shit. Does Wayne Gretzky have the most points ever in the history of the NHL because for some reason his brain was wired a certain way that gave him an advantage in hockey over other players.... YES! Do analysts blabber about how if he had a different brain that didn't respond as well to a hockey rink etc he'd just be average... NO! It's pointless.

Larry Wheels is fucking strong. It doesn't matter if he's drinking fucking Kangaroo piss and he has a great response to it. You guys are like a dog chasing it's own tail. Some of you are so lost in here you can see the forest through the trees. You're just repeating and stating the obvious ad nauseum to the point that it's become a game of semantics.

Is it drugs? YES! Is it genetics? YES! Is it his upbringing that had an influence on him picking up a weight? YES! Is it the girl that rejected him when he was young and he decided the way to "get women" was to be big and strong? MAYBE! My point is, who fucking cares??

You idiots are on a bodybuilding forum and whining and arguing about drugs?? Wake up!

[Bevo]

Obviously a crazy strong man no question.But much stronger than he looks as he is shredded and jacked no doubt but not crazy size for his strength.I think naturally hed be pressing 150s so no matter what one of the strongest men around in the public eye at this time.

So he would have done 150’s looking like he did at 17 drug free?

[robcguns]

So he would have done 150’s looking like he did at 17 drug free?

No but I’m thinking he is naturally very strong so if he was natural at his age now I’m sure he would be doing 150s,there has to be some crazy base strength.I know guys who do 2 grams of test a week and can’t do 150s So genetics play a role and obviously he’s playing with a stacked deck either way.

[WalterWhite]

At 11:00 he discusses when he started to use.  The rest of the video is a synopsis of his dysfunctional life and recreational drug use.

He admits he wanted to be good at something and was willing to do anything to reach his goals.

[Bevo]

At 11:00 he discusses when he started to use.  The rest of the video is a synopsis of his dysfunctional life and recreational drug use.

He admits he wanted to be good at something and was willing to do anything to reach his goals.

At 24, he might end up like Dallas soon rather than later