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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Billy Rosewood on April 15, 2006, 09:09:57 PM
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I didn't know that dudes that look like that still existed. Awesome!!!
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Yep he got fucked too he should have been top 3
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I didn't know that dudes that look like that still existed. Awesome!!!
He seems like a standup guy fo' sho'!
Bay-G has got the numbers on the bloke.
Prez it is.
YIP
Zack
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Dude looked good.. real good. That fondue diet must work.
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Old man looked good!
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both his physique and posing are pure examples of the classical breed - tremendous aesthetics and flow - he got overlooked BAD
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The Iron Shiek can never get a fair deal in America.
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That guy looked awsome, he should of been either 1st 2nd or 3rd. Great phesique
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With the depth of the line-up in this years Masters Worlds, it's hard to imagine that anyone could have been overlooked. But considering the overall quality (shape, conditioning, posing, and size) of Rusty Jeffers versus his overall placing, one cannot help but think he was robbed tonight.
(http://bodybuilding.com/fun/big/2006/2006masters_pre_men60.jpg)
I'm sure everyone knows by now about Rusty's career as a gay porn star, but here's the skinny for those who don't. Under the moniker "Carl Hardwick", Jeffers starred in several jag-off films appealing to queers keen on hairy muscular cowboys with mustaches. Basically he just jerked off in front of a camera.
(http://www.hisxpress.com/media/minute_man_16_dvd.jpg)
Now before you guys compare him to our very own Derek Anthony, consider the following: he doesn't use synthol, he actually has a pro-caliber physique, he doesnt wear a rug, and his porn career was far more succesful. Unlike Derek, Rusty isn't a cocky jackass. Despite his questionable career, he still seems to have maintained his dignity. Again, unlike Derek.
(http://www.creativebodies.net/DAHI1.JPG)
Don't get me wrong, I'm not a fan of gay porn and/or those who star in them. But I hope you can all overlook the fact that Rusty Jeffers starred in some (well, a lot) when you judge his physique and see it for it's true potential on this and future IFBB stages.
Bottom line: He deserved to be in that top 5 tonight - period.
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I took a look at the photos of this show over at bodybuilding.com and Rusty had the best overall physique in my opinion. Best overall combination of shape, proportions, muscle size, cuts, aesthetic appeal on stage. He was definitely the best athlete (or bodybuilder if you wish) there.
I wouldn't be surprised if his career in gay porn and the fact that he wore a mustache (like the one on the film case in the just deleted thread) had a direct impact on his placings. It can be difficult to put somethings behind you, no pun intended.
Bodybuilding is a weird endeavor, its obvious that many of the competitors are gay, bi-curious, or willing to play gay for pay. Its obvious that a large percentage of the fans swing from the other side of the lake. What is strange is that despite this, when it gets out that these competitors are engaging in homosexual activity/ work they are black listed (or at least seem to be).
Examples:
Bob Paris
Chris Duffy
It seems to be a case of the Millitary's "Don't ask, Don't tell" Translation: You betta not tell me or else >:( policy.
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I didn't know that dudes that look like that still existed. Awesome!!!
Billy your avatar is freaky, with a capital "F", who or what the hell is that in your avatar?
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I took a look at the photos of this show over at bodybuilding.com and Rusty had the best overall physique in my opinion. Best overall combination of shape, proportions, muscle size, cuts, aesthetic appeal on stage. He was definitely the best athlete (or bodybuilder if you wish) there.
I wouldn't be surprised if his career in gay porn and the fact that he wore a mustache (like the one on the film case in the just deleted thread) had a direct impact on his placings. It can be difficult to put somethings behind you, no pun intended.
Bodybuilding is a weird endeavor, its obvious that many of the competitors are gay, bi-curious, or willing to play gay for pay. Its obvious that a large percentage of the fans swing from the other side of the lake. What is strange is that despite this, when it gets out that these competitors are engaging in homosexual activity/ work they are black listed (or at least seem to be).
Examples:
Bob Paris
Chris Duffy
It seems to be a case of the Millitary's "Don't ask, Don't tell" Translation: You betta not tell me or else >:( policy.
Dont forget Bruce Patterson! tonnes of potential wasted - PDI ???
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He seems like an upstanding fcuking citizen. No synthol.
YIP
Zack
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Dont forget Bruce Patterson! tonnes of potential wasted - PDI ???
Yeah I was thinking about him but forgot the name, I wonder how many other big names are sneaking around trying to do their gay porn, gay for pay, etc. on the hush hush without big brother catching them.
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Billy your avatar is freaky, with a capital "F", who or what the hell is that in your avatar?
It's the cover of the Alice in Chains classic "Facelift" album. Jeffers was robbed cuz he does boy porn, but shit half the other competitors bite pillow, in front of the camera or not.
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He seems like an upstanding fcuking citizen. No synthol.
YIP
Zack
Hey sweetboy, why did you delete Big Poppa's thread here and then repost it? What kind of an asshat are you?
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It's the cover of the Alice in Chains classic "Facelift" album. Jeffers was robbed cuz he does boy porn, but shit half the other competitors bite pillow, in front of the camera or not.
Cool thanks for the reply.
I guess Jeffers has been demoted because he got out of line, "We wouldn't want these boys getting the wrong idea, do we now"
Bodybuilding is weird sh-t, whoever came up with the rule book must have been downing Ludes and reading Alice in Wonderland or looking at Charlie and the chocolate factory. I would love to take a look at the rule book.
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congratulations to Rusty, who deserved the win. might not have been the most conditioned guy, but he was light years ahead in terms of everything else.
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Hey sweetboy, why did you delete Big Poppa's thread here and then repost it? What kind of an asshat are you?
Great post.
sweetboy, asshat... LOL.
Again, I rarely deletes whole threads. I either move them or deletes or edits specific posts.
Hope this heps.
YIP
Zack
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my question is this... how do you know about this homo s***?
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Rusty Johnson should have won no question. I'd like to fondle his woowoo any day.
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i went back and reposted it - i edited it a bit though myself so its message could get out - Rusty was robbed!!!
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my question is this... how do you know about this homo s***?
one of the Moderators gave us his porn name in another thread when we were talking about how gay his mustache is
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This guy wasn't even in the top 5? What? Really? Well, poor judging is nothing new for the IFBB...
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holy striated glutes Bat-man! there's homos in here :o
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Rusty is also married (to a woman, even) with kids.
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He looked like he should have been top 3 at least. The only clear winner was Chic, I am serious.
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He looked like he should have been top 3 at least. The only clear winner was Chic, I am serious.
chic had Chicken legs compared to Rusty.
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Right now I'm on my laptop so I'll make this short and sweet.
Rusty Jeffers will never win any pro shows even if he screws his head off and puts it on Ronnie Coleman's physique. The reason is because he stars in gay porn films with the main emphasis on the porn part. The judges will completely ignore him regardless because of the stigma and for the fact that it will hurt the "integrity" of the title.
Rusty may have deserved to be in the top 5 but sometimes outside circumstances will affect placings. Think about it, all the Mr Olympia's had one thing in common. They weren't outspoken, they are quiet, and they were not doing weird things outside.
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Right now I'm on my laptop so I'll make this short and sweet.
Rusty Jeffers will never win any pro shows even if he screws his head off and puts it on Ronnie Coleman's physique. The reason is because he stars in gay porn films with the main emphasis on the porn part. The judges will completely ignore him regardless because of the stigma and for the fact that it will hurt the "integrity" of the title.
Rusty may have deserved to be in the top 5 but sometimes outside circumstances will affect placings. Think about it, all the Mr Olympia's had one thing in common. They weren't outspoken, they are quiet, and they were not doing weird things outside.
sad but very tre post aboiuit the reality of his involvement with gay pros ,may be a definite factor in his low placing.
Sadder still is how some of those that condem him for it are most likely beatin' off over the same videos...go figure ::)
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Right now I'm on my laptop so I'll make this short and sweet.
Rusty Jeffers will never win any pro shows even if he screws his head off and puts it on Ronnie Coleman's physique. The reason is because he stars in gay porn films with the main emphasis on the porn part. The judges will completely ignore him regardless because of the stigma and for the fact that it will hurt the "integrity" of the title.
Rusty may have deserved to be in the top 5 but sometimes outside circumstances will affect placings. Think about it, all the Mr Olympia's had one thing in common. They weren't outspoken, they are quiet, and they were not doing weird things outside.
Dude, Chris Dickerson has a video with himself posing naked! Rusty should just join PDI - the IFBB won't give him his due
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Dude, Chris Dickerson has a video with himself posing naked! Rusty should just join PDI - the IFBB won't give him his due
So does Larry Scott, Arnold Schwartznegger, Frank Zane, and many other 60's and 70's bodybuilders. It was however in a dignified manner.
Rusty was wacking off his ding dong. Big difference
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So does Larry Scott, Arnold Schwartznegger, Frank Zane, and many other 60's and 70's bodybuilders. It was however in a dignified manner.
Rusty was wacking off his ding dong. Big difference
you know a lot about naked bodybuilders =)
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Yea Rusty got robbed, no doubt ???Had him winning the show. As for gay porn who cares. Rusty has a awesome physique and was overlooked , and yes Rusty is Married &has children. Great person as well
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Yea Rusty got robbed, no doubt ???Had him winning the show. As for gay porn who cares. Rusty has a awesome physique and was overlooked , and yes Rusty is Married &has children. Great person as well
Obviously the judges. Sorry but doing porn is not cool and its the reason why he'll never win any pro shows. I'm surprised he even won the Master Nationals but he won't be winning anything else. I'm sure he's a great guy and all but as a professional bodybuilder, you must properly conduct yourself on and off the stage. Being gay is not a problem, its doing porn that will screw up your career like no other. Tom Prince is another example, as soon as he won the Nationals, he went to Colt Magazine for pictures. He made 3000 bucks but lost any opportunity of advancing further.
Bob Chic on the other hand has conducted himself as a professional bodybuilder and has not done any of the stuff these guys have done. I think the only time was when him and Kamali were at the Weider's office and drew pictures of Craig Titus as Myrtle the Turtle.
As far as a fix is concerned, I'd seriously doubt there was a fix. Pavol may have looked better in the evening but its the morning show that counts. Claude upper body is overpowered by his legs. Bob simply came in with his X frame and took his first pro win. Doesn't make a difference if the competition wasn't fierce and can you honestly expect it to be????
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Jeffers looked the best by a fair margin so fuck this assesment. :-X
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i just saw the posing routine of jeffers, damn this guy can POSE!! i JUST LOVED IT! bodybuilding at its best! it almost brought tears to my eyes, because you see this kind of posing ability not alot these days. i think its also way better than the melvin/Darrem type of posing with all the fancy stuff. rusty´s posing is so pure.
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I took a look at the photos of this show over at bodybuilding.com and Rusty had the best overall physique in my opinion. Best overall combination of shape, proportions, muscle size, cuts, aesthetic appeal on stage. He was definitely the best athlete (or bodybuilder if you wish) there.
I wouldn't be surprised if his career in gay porn and the fact that he wore a mustache (like the one on the film case in the just deleted thread) had a direct impact on his placings. It can be difficult to put somethings behind you, no pun intended.
Bodybuilding is a weird endeavor, its obvious that many of the competitors are gay, bi-curious, or willing to play gay for pay. Its obvious that a large percentage of the fans swing from the other side of the lake. What is strange is that despite this, when it gets out that these competitors are engaging in homosexual activity/ work they are black listed (or at least seem to be).
Examples:
Bob Paris
Chris Duffy
It seems to be a case of the Millitary's "Don't ask, Don't tell" Translation: You betta not tell me or else >:( policy.
thanks for not insulting us by calling pro bodybuilding a sport
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i just saw the posing routine of jeffers, damn this guy can POSE!! i JUST LOVED IT! bodybuilding at its best! it almost brought tears to my eyes, because you see this kind of posing ability not alot these days. i think its also way better than the melvin/Darrem type of posing with all the fancy stuff. rusty´s posing is so pure.
homosexual metldown.
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Mishko knows Rusty was robbed
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Bob should have won, stop the meltdowns ::)
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Bob should have won, stop the meltdowns ::)
I never said Bob shouldn't have won - I already congratulated him. I'm just disappointed and upset that Rusty Jeffers wasn't AT LEAST in the top 5. Look at the pics, watch the videos - Rusty had a legitimate shot at 2nd and yet they never compared him to Chick! That's just wrong. It's a shame they couldnt have judged his physique instead of his past, especially considering the quality of said phyisque. Even Milos Sarcev gave him props . . .
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Bob Chic on the other hand has conducted himself as a professional bodybuilder and has not done any of the stuff these guys have done. I think the only time was when him and Kamali were at the Weider's office and drew pictures of Craig Titus as Myrtle the Turtle.
Chick has routinedly threatened and insulted people on the message boards, and hated all over a new division with plenty of money and opportunities for the new athletes.
You don't see Garett Downing or Jay Cutler or Dexter Jackson doing these things.
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I never said Bob shouldn't have won - I already congratulated him. I'm just disappointed and upset that Rusty Jeffers wasn't AT LEAST in the top 5. Look at the pics, watch the videos - Rusty had a legitimate shot at 2nd and yet they never compared him to Chick! That's just wrong. It's a shame they couldnt have judged his physique instead of his past, especially considering the quality of said phyisque. Even Milos Sarcev gave him props . . .
Bodybuilding loves screwjobs, unfortunately. :-\
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It's the cover of the Alice in Chains classic "Facelift" album. Jeffers was robbed cuz he does boy porn, but shit half the other competitors bite pillow, in front of the camera or not.
bite pillow?
never heard that one
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At least Rusty has been open about his Carl Hardwick modeling for Colt, although he discontinued it several years ago. But if IFBB judges--some of whom, btw, are known to be gay closet cases-- are still penalizing him for his Hardwick work, why aren't they doing the same for other pros who "secretly" engage in much more explicitly homosexual stuff (often for big-bucks pay)? Is there a double standard operating here?
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Occurances like Rusty Jeffers happen all the time in Bodybuilding. Hello!!
Join the crowd of UNHAPPY placements.
Thats why COmpetitve bodybuilding SUCKS.
Thats why i gave it up a long time ago.
Go the the gym, look good, and be happy.
Fuck stepping stage, for what? To say that youstepped on stage?
Th guy got not ripped, but RAPPED, for not even bein gin the TOP 3.
Ahh, welcome to the world of bodybuilding.
I remember going to the EMpire Statebuilding for our drug testing (polygraph) for the NGA. After the testing i remember competitors sighing in relief and saying "Shiit, glad I passed that test, because i used not to long ago" I didn tthink anything of it.
Day of the show, when I was in 5th place, and the guy in 1st was one of the guys that made such comments, I realized competitve bodybuilding is a waste of TIME, unless you have what its go to be a TOP PRO.
PEACE.
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rusty is what the average bodybuilder strives to look like
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At least Rusty has been open about his Carl Hardwick modeling for Colt, although he discontinued it several years ago. But if IFBB judges--some of whom, btw, are known to be gay closet cases-- are still penalizing him for his Hardwick work, why aren't they doing the same for other pros who "secretly" engage in much most explicitly homosexual stuff (often for big-bucks pay)? Is there a double standard operating here?
Despite his porn days, Rusty somehow glows with dignity, confidence and grace - not even the judges can take that away from him
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are you saying that a man who whacked off for other men is still more respected than Bob Chick?
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he looks like those classic dudes who should of competed in the 60's and 70's except with bigger legs
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i'm a fan of mass monsters through and through - but even I can appreciate a great physique. Look at these pictures of Rusty at the 2005 Ironman - tell me these aren't works of art:
(http://www.getbig.com/pics/ironman/2005/finals/jeffers05.jpg)
(http://www.getbig.com/pics/ironman/2005/finals/jeffers06.jpg)
(http://www.getbig.com/pics/ironman/2005/finals/jeffers07.jpg)
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Despite his porn days, Rusty somehow glows with dignity, confidence and grace - not even the judges can take that away from him
so well said.
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RUSTY looked phenomenal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
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Bob weighed more. This is bodybuilding, not bodyshrinking ::)
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Bob weighed more. This is bodybuilding, not bodyshrinking ::)
um . . . LuciusFox, conditioning, shape, and presentation are all judged in bb contests - not just pure size. If they were, this would be Mr. Olympia . . .
(http://ronnie.cz/_img/Fotogalerie/1437_11_1.jpg)
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um . . . LuciusFox, conditioning, shape, and presentation are all judged in bb contests - not just pure size. If they were, this would be Mr. Olympia . . .
(http://ronnie.cz/_img/Fotogalerie/1437_11_1.jpg)
He dwarfs you ;D
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and he dwarfs you, luciuscunt....
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and he dwarfs you, luciuscunt....
The man has a great back. He makes me look like Pippi Longstocking. ;D
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lucius, what is it with you?
is it irony/sarcasm that you post "bob dwarfs rusty" in every thread, or is it your true opinion?
bob looked good, too, in my opinion. i would have had these two battle it out in multiple comparisons.
but this way bobs victory has a bad taste.....
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lucius, what is it with you?
is it irony/sarcasm that you post "bob dwarfs rusty" in every thread, or is it your true opinion?
bob looked good, too, in my opinion. i would have had these two battle it out in multiple comparisons.
but this way bobs victory has a bad taste.....
I definitely think they should have been compared. I had already given up on bodybuilding trying to be fair. :-\
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I'm interested in seeing the scorecard. If they really did just overlook Rusty in prejudging (which is utterly impossible considering the depth of the line-up) then his finals scores should be among the highest - especially considering the quality of his posing routine
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I'm interested in seeing the scorecard. If they really did just overlook Rusty in prejudging (which is utterly impossible considering the depth of the line-up) then his finals scores should be among the highest - especially considering the quality of his posing routine
The point of the latter two rounds is to allow the judges to manipulate the scores. See the 2001 Mr. Olympia.
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Rusty Jeffers Owns Bob and everyone who watched the show knows it.
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Rusty Johnson should have won no question. I'd like to fondle his woowoo any day.
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What the hell? :-X
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Right now I'm on my laptop so I'll make this short and sweet.
Rusty Jeffers will never win any pro shows even if he screws his head off and puts it on Ronnie Coleman's physique. The reason is because he stars in gay porn films with the main emphasis on the porn part. The judges will completely ignore him regardless because of the stigma and for the fact that it will hurt the "integrity" of the title.
Rusty may have deserved to be in the top 5 but sometimes outside circumstances will affect placings. Think about it, all the Mr Olympia's had one thing in common. They weren't outspoken, they are quiet, and they were not doing weird things outside.
So what you are saying is the show was fixed?
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this is an outrage
any links to his "work" ;D
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Rusty is also married (to a woman, even) with kids.
thats what makes his gay porn issue all more disgusting his kids and wife must be just as *uck up in the head
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rusty is what the perfect bodybuilder strives to look like
yes he is...
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If his mustache came in just a little dryer, he would have taken it ;)
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this is an outrage
any links to his "work" ;D
:-X ;D :-X ;D
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Again, I don't see why Jeffers doing some jerking off in videos is any worse or different than Johnnie Jackson, Eryk Bui, Mike Dragna, Rodney St. Cloud, or a huge number of other pros and top amatuers on Muscleweb.com who strip down to their bare asses in the shower or whatever so that gay men can jerk off to them.
Then again, maybe that's why Johnnie Jackson gets shafted regularly by the judges. And I mean that figuratively. JJ's a great bodybuilder.
Special "GaytorAID" Ed
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holy striated glutes Bat-man! there's homos in here :o
On a bodybuilding website?? Get out, say it ain't so.....
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complete results are in:
Rusty Jeffers places 8th !!!!
http://musclememory.com/show.php?c=Masters+Pro+World+-+IFBB&y=2006 (http://musclememory.com/show.php?c=Masters+Pro+World+-+IFBB&y=2006)
http://www.ifbb.com/ifbbpro/2006events/2006mastersproworlds.htm (http://www.ifbb.com/ifbbpro/2006events/2006mastersproworlds.htm)
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amazing no wonder the IFBB sucks
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can anyone name the song rusty posed to, please?
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alter bridge-open your eyes
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thank you tweeter
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Anyone who takes the time to view the images from the 2006 World Pro Masters championships will be amazed that Rusty Jeffers was overlooked. How the judges gave the title to Bob 'Rhetoric' Chick is one of those mysterious things the IFBB judges often do. Makes no sense to any unbiased observer of bodybuilding. Jeffers has the shape, size and condition to win. He stands out far above the others.
The only problem for the judges was who to place next. Not so obvious that it was Chick. Surprisingly, Bob and Rusty were not compared according to the images I have seen on line. Disregard that there are so many images of Bob. That doesn't mean he deserved to win the title. Look for yourself and be amazed.
As far as I am concerned, to place Rusty 8th was a travesty similar to what happened to Bev Francis in 1983 when she placed 8th behind Rachel McLish and other women. When the IFBB doesn't want you to win you get placed 8th. Ditto for Sergio in his last Olympia.
Who were the judges? I would never let any of those judge a contest again. Shame on the IFBB. A pity for Bob because that sort of thing shouldn't happen. No matter, we can get Bob Chick to sort this out with the Pro Committee.
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/2006nymasters_res.htm
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To say that Rusty placed lower than he should have been placed is one thing. To say he should have gone from 8th place to 1st place is another thing entirely.
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That is what I am saying. This was another IFBB robbery.
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In most sport/activities/events the best performer that day wins. In the IFBB you get placed on name recognition/sponsors.
also in most sport/activities/events the scores are visible so every knows where they stand..not in the IFBB
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Bob had superior conditioning
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this debate has been brought up many times before, and of course peoples opinions will most likely not change. Rusty does look good in that pic, but how about the others? ive seen pictures of Chick from that show where he looks awesome. Rusty has a classic look no doubt though, and yes he probably should have placed higher
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how can you explain regular people mr olympia represent the best built man on the planet.
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Bob was no where near Jeffers in conditioning. Not even close. Bob looks soft in the closeups.
Hope this helps.
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To me, Bob has wider hips, poorer calves, turnip thighs and gaps in his arms compared to Rusty. Rusty was also harder. Look at the other images where close ups are shown. Photos don't lie. Bob was given a gift in NY.
Who promoted that contest? Don't tell me it was Steve W?
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I previously assumed it came down to conditioning flaws on Rusty's part. Those pictures posted present a convincing argument in favour of Rusty Jeffers. To have Rusty placing 8th and Bob 1st is blatent disregard for criteria and fair judging.
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mandatory poses are the main ways of comparing people. i dont see any direct comparisons besides the abs and thigh, of which Rusty might just win, but it's very close.
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Why is Bob always highlighted in threads about Rusty and his 2006 Masters Pro World placing? How about the six other bodybuilders who beat him?
http://www.musclememory.com/show.php?c=Masters+Pro+World+-+IFBB&y=2006
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Bodybuilding has little to do with your physique, but who you know. Rusty Jeffers physique is obviously better. Bob has good size, but his physique isn't anything great. Give some drugs long enough, guess what, they get bigger. Hell, I'd probably look just as bad, if not worse with the same drugs. Have to give Bob credit for placing poorly over 15+ years and sticking with it. You can only do so much with your genetics.
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Bodybuilding has little to do with your physique, but who you know. Rusty Jeffers physique is obviously better. Bob has good size, but his physique isn't anything great. Give some drugs long enough, guess what, they get bigger. Hell, I'd probably look just as bad, if not worse with the same drugs. Have to give Bob credit for placing poorly over 15+ years and sticking with it. You can only do so much with your genetics.
Who the hell were in places 2 to 7 then as these 2 look like the top 2??!! Bob has a slight edge to me, but Rusty looks fantastic. A couple of points between them in my eyes.
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Looks like Vince B is still bitter about Bob... Guess he lives in your mind eh Vince?
Not to mention how heart broken you were when your porn film colleague got 8th place
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Why is Bob always highlighted in threads about Rusty and his 2006 Masters Pro World placing? How about the six other bodybuilders who beat him?
http://www.musclememory.com/show.php?c=Masters+Pro+World+-+IFBB&y=2006
Vince "The Good Old Days" Basille doesn't have a vendetta against them.
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If Rusty did a suicide run and got real dry and lean he would look insane.
He did not win that show. Had he been shredded then maybe.
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Rusty looks amazing.
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Brutal attempt from Vince to badger his arch enemy Bob.
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Welcome to 2006 ;D
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Vince Basilly if you are going to make an arguement like this your pictures should back up your arguement.
The ones you have posted clearly show Bob was better than Rusty.
It's not even close.
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Vince Basilly if you are going to make an arguement like this your pictures should back up your arguement.
The ones you have posted clearly show Bob was better bigger than Rusty.
It's not even close.
fixed.
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If Rusty did a suicide run and got real dry and lean he would look insane.
He did not win that show. Had he been shredded then maybe.
unfortunately there is no visual evidence that supports your statement. While there are tons in favor of the contrary.
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Rusty cops so much flak for his moustache. He just seems to suck it up though.
Rusty looks like the dude out of the Village people...
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Brutal attempt from Vince to badger his arch enemy Bob.
Haha. It's like a retired super-villain making prank phone calls from his retirement center home to his old arch-nemesis in his.
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To me, Bob has wider hips, poorer calves, turnip thighs and gaps in his arms compared to Rusty. Rusty was also harder. Look at the other images where close ups are shown. Photos don't lie. Bob was given a gift in NY.
Who promoted that contest? Don't tell me it was Steve W?
I like Bob even though I do give him a hard time every once in a while. But I do agree with some of what Vince is saying. Rusty has a better structure than Bob plain and simple, that wont change but Bob was in better shape that night. No way Rusty should have been 8th, but why bitch everyone knows the IFBB is totally corrupt and run by queers.
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The sport is subjective....The judges can do as they please because of this.....bottom line, it is all meaningless anyway....take the drugs away and you have a bunch of morons with self-loathing-issues.
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To say that Rusty placed lower than he should have been placed is one thing. To say he should have gone from 8th place to 1st place is another thing entirely.
Don't be too quick to fall for this trick, Matt. ;)
They did the same thing to Mentzer...an attempt to minimize the controversy.
By the way, have you seen the horrible physiques that placed ahead of Rusty at this show?! laughable! ::)
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(http://i32.tinypic.com/210c4jk.jpg)
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Bodybuilding com broadcast the show. Does Bob have an association with Bodybuilding Com? Does Bob have an association with Steve who promoted the show? Something doesn't sit right with me. Rusty got screwed big time in this show. What was the explanation?
People can disagree about placings but how can anyone put Rusty 8th in that lineup? I am from Canada and used to respect Claude but he was far behind Rusty in this show. Bob was a big guy and posed well and so on but from what I have seen he was nowhere close to being as good as Rusty was.
Men's Show Results
Bob Cicherillo (1st), Johnny Stewart (2nd), Pavol Jablonicky (3rd).
Place Name Country 1+2 3 4 Points
1 Bob Cicherillo USA 10 5 5 20
2 Johnny Stewart USA 32 12 14 58
3 Pavol Jablonicky Czech 30 17 12 59
4 Claude Groulx Canada 50 19 19 88
5 Stan McCrary USA 50 34 24 108
6 Nathan Wonsley USA 60 28 - 88
7 John Simmons USA 66 36 - 102
8 Rusty Jeffers USA 76 33 - 109
9 Joseph Palumbo USA 98 50 - 148
10 Alberto Bistocchi Italy 102 51 - 153
11 Daryl Stafford USA 128 48 - 176
12 George Turmon USA 120 60 - 180
13 David Marinelli USA 130 76 - 206
14 Rudy Soliman Canada 150 65 - 215
15 Quincy Roberts USA 146 73 - 219
16 Nicolae Giurgi Hungary 156 76 - 232
17 Massimo Valli Italy 160 77 - 237
18 Leon Brown USA 160 80 - 240
18 William Leonard Australia 160 80 - 240
18 Josef Rac Czech Republic 160 80 - 240
18 Roberto Sabatini Canada 160 80 - 240
18 Behnam Samini Denmark 160 80 - 240
18 Abdul Sharif USA 160 80 - 240
18 Ken Jones USA 160 80 - 240
18 Charles Urrego USA 160 80 - 240
-- Pietro Gilberto Australia - - - Withdrew
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The more photos I see the sadder the result was for Rusty.
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Uh, Vince.....FYI. This topic was beaten to death two years ago! Use the search box; I'm sure you can find the thread.
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It is new to me. Quite sad that Keith and others were on the money and Bob got a gift. This is my opinion and I am voicing it now.
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It is new to me. Quite sad that Keith and others were on the money and Bob got a gift. This is my opinion and I am voicing it now.
We did milk this topic when it first happened. Bob and Rusty were never standing side by side. We all know why.
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Haha. It's like a retired super-villain making prank phone calls from his retirement center home to his old arch-nemesis in his.
I like the sound of this idea. I may be making some phone calls in the future.
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Rusty rules.
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We did milk this topic when it first happened. Bob and Rusty were never standing side by side. We all know why.
if you'd have stood Bob and Rusty side by side you'd see Bob owning Rusty on width, size, condition and height, no contest, Bob wins everytime.
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Anyone who takes the time to view the images from the 2006 World Pro Masters championships will be amazed that Rusty Jeffers was overlooked. How the judges gave the title to Bob 'Rhetoric' Chick is one of those mysterious things the IFBB judges often do. Makes no sense to any unbiased observer of bodybuilding. Jeffers has the shape, size and condition to win. He stands out far above the others.
The only problem for the judges was who to place next. Not so obvious that it was Chick. Surprisingly, Bob and Rusty were not compared according to the images I have seen on line. Disregard that there are so many images of Bob. That doesn't mean he deserved to win the title. Look for yourself and be amazed.
As far as I am concerned, to place Rusty 8th was a travesty similar to what happened to Bev Francis in 1983 when she placed 8th behind Rachel McLish and other women. When the IFBB doesn't want you to win you get placed 8th. Ditto for Sergio in his last Olympia.
Who were the judges? I would never let any of those judge a contest again. Shame on the IFBB. A pity for Bob because that sort of thing shouldn't happen. No matter, we can get Bob Chick to sort this out with the Pro Committee.
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/2006nymasters_res.htm
There is a reason Rusty turned pro in the Masters, not the USA, Nationals....he never beat me as an amateur, either...He's never placed in the pro's...and the answer is simple: conditioning. Even in the pice you're posting ad nauseum, he's smooth and making my point...and he was softer in the morning, when the judging takes place.
Rusty has great lines, poses amongst the best...but that will only get you so far. I would have had him in the top 5 myself...I wasn't judging.
Get over it, Basile....you're making a bigger fool of yourself (if that's possible)
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There is a reason Rusty turned pro in the Masters, not the USA, Nationals....he never beat me as an amateur, either...He's never placed in the pro's...and the answer is simple: conditioning. Even in the pice you're posting ad nauseum, he's smooth and making my point...and he was softer in the morning, when the judging takes place.
Rusty has great lines, poses amongst the best...but that will only get you so far. I would have had him in the top 5 myself...I wasn't judging.
Get over it, Basile....you're making a bigger fool of yourself (if that's possible)
Proof that conditioning IS judged too highly. Rusty looks incredible (except for the tache!!) - Should have been top 3. Can't judge anything more without direct comparison to you Bob, BUT it would have been CLOSE ;)
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Pavol should have won that contest. Rusty 2nd, Bob 3rd.
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Carl Hardwick looked pretty good that day.
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Pavol should have won that contest. Rusty 2nd, Bob 3rd.
No. Pavol came in too light. He got out-muscled this time.
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I heard that Pavol was overlooked so I went and looked. Nope. Nowhere near his best and Rusty way too hard compared to him, Bob and the others.
I can understand Bob defending himself. However, he should let others praise him and not his own tongue.
The standing 'relaxed' of Rusty above clearly shows the superior physique of Rusty. The judges were obviously putting him down. There can be no other explanation. That 8th place is always suspect in the IFBB.
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No. Pavol came in too light. He got out-muscled this time.
I love Pavol, but I agree. He was not at his best. :-\
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beauty and the beast
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We did milk this topic when it first happened. Bob and Rusty were never standing side by side. We all know why.
Yup. And, if I'm not mistaken, there was even a thread devoted to Rusty's amazing 'stache. :o
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beauty and the beast
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=209987.0;attach=245455;image)
CLAUDE GROULX ,would have been tougher if it was 5 yrs back from there ,maybe 10 ,was a good bber back in 90ies...
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Vince "The Good Old Days" Basille doesn't have a vendetta against them.
I agree. I think Rusty was overlooked, but no need to always put the heat on Bob when this topic comes up.
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Hey, Matt, how are you doing on the philosophy forums.
Are you suggesting I am overdoing it a bit re Chick? I had better pull my head in!
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It would have been a close call if Bob would have done g4p ;)
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check my Avatar
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no, he has a boyfriend for all of his sexual needs.
Isn't true love a beautiful thing. :P
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I don't see what your seeing Vince...But then again, I also don't have a fetish for 500 pound fat women...
And Bob won the show with relative ease...
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Bob got frickin owned that comp there was too much political crap. Rusty's presentation was flawless and came into that show in awesome condition. Cheesy gay moustache or not Rusty deserved to win
Bobs shape is so unpleasant there it makes me pee blood. I can't believe so many people rush to his defense
The judges should be ashamed of themselves
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Bob got frickin owned that comp there was too much political crap. Rusty's presentation was flawless and came into that show in awesome condition. Cheesy gay moustache or not Rusty deserved to win
Bobs shape is so unpleasant there it makes me pee blood. I can't believe so many people rush to his defense
The judges should be ashamed of themselves
Ouch! :'(
Tell us how you really feel.
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Anyone who takes the time to view the images from the 2006 World Pro Masters championships will be amazed that Rusty Jeffers was overlooked. How the judges gave the title to Bob 'Rhetoric' Chick is one of those mysterious things the IFBB judges often do. Makes no sense to any unbiased observer of bodybuilding. Jeffers has the shape, size and condition to win. He stands out far above the others.
The only problem for the judges was who to place next. Not so obvious that it was Chick. Surprisingly, Bob and Rusty were not compared according to the images I have seen on line. Disregard that there are so many images of Bob. That doesn't mean he deserved to win the title. Look for yourself and be amazed.
As far as I am concerned, to place Rusty 8th was a travesty similar to what happened to Bev Francis in 1983 when she placed 8th behind Rachel McLish and other women. When the IFBB doesn't want you to win you get placed 8th. Ditto for Sergio in his last Olympia.
Who were the judges? I would never let any of those judge a contest again. Shame on the IFBB. A pity for Bob because that sort of thing shouldn't happen. No matter, we can get Bob Chick to sort this out with the Pro Committee.
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/2006nymasters_res.htm
Rusty was so screwed......he was the best that day. But hey, yet another reason why the IFBB can't be taken seriously. Hell, look at the Mr.O last year..... ::)
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Trust Goodrum to dig up his favourite viewing material.
We all watched how Dennis Wolf was systematically screwed in contests last year. I mean, imagine being placed behind Kamali!
There were no comparisons between Dennis and Jay. Shades of the Masters Pro in 2006. I guess the stench from the 06 show pretty much made that an unpopular contest and it wasn't held in 2007.
One doesn't have to look far to find controversial decisions in Bodybuilding.
Look at the poll about who should have won the masters in 06. The lads of Getbig don't kiss butt. Well, some do!! So if we take into account the votes cast by gimmick accounts then Jeffers is the uncrowned champ. Bob had Bodybuilding Com behind him and it just smacks of a set up show. Would Steve W allow anything untoward to happen at one of his shows? Who knows what Steve does behind the scenes. Who picked the judges for that show? Who were the judges. Would be interesting to see the individual scores. That panel should never be allowed to judge again.
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At least in this picture, it is because Rusty is smooth. Look at his legs and delts in comparison. The other guy is cut much deeper and has lines on his delts.
However, since the overwhelming majority seem to favor a pleasing structure over ripped-to-shreds, maybe (Bob) the judges aught to conform to public opinion and weight things differently.
Give more points to body structure (which, as seen here, people seem to favor) and fewer points to conditioning (again, people don't care so much about).
A side benefit to such a change in judging would be that the genetically superior competitor would win (drugs do not help basic structure). And, drugs would mean less (at least cutting drugs), therefore aversely affecting competitors health less.
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I like Claude (the other guy) but his gut was way out of control at that contest. Compare his waistline to Rusty’s. :-\
“IFBB Masters Professional World Champion” was not a real contest. That particular contest/title never existed before and it will never be staged again. Like Vince B. said... it was a set up.
In retrospect it now seems very fitting that it was Bob's only pro win. ;D
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Claude and Pavol were guys I thought had great physiques. However, as they aged things started to disappear and if you look closely at the images from the contest you cannot put them ahead of Rusty. Bob suffers when you look closely at his physique. Turnip thighs last seen on Reg Lewis way back when. Loose skin on the lower abs. He looks cut in some photos but not so hard in others. Contrast that to Rusty. If you look at the small images you might think he is a bit smooth but click on a larger image and you will see he is hard and cut. The closeups tell the real story.
Bob did a wonderful job for Bodybuilding Com and established himself as a winner when it hardly happened on stage either at the pre-judging or evening shows. Rusty had a more pleasing physique and had sufficient size to go with the aesthetics. Bob is trying and did well for the video but goodness me who could give the title to him?
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From what I saw, Claude had the best legs in that contest.
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Claude and Pavol were guys I thought had great physiques. However, as they aged things started to disappear and if you look closely at the images from the contest you cannot put them ahead of Rusty. Bob suffers when you look closely at his physique. Turnip thighs last seen on Reg Lewis way back when. Loose skin on the lower abs. He looks cut in some photos but not so hard in others. Contrast that to Rusty. If you look at the small images you might think he is a bit smooth but click on a larger image and you will see he is hard and cut. The closeups tell the real story.
Bob did a wonderful job for Bodybuilding Com and established himself as a winner when it hardly happened on stage either at the pre-judging or evening shows. Rusty had a more pleasing physique and had sufficient size to go with the aesthetics. Bob is trying and did well for the video but goodness me who could give the title to him?
The judges, who were seated 15 feet away from the stage...it wasn't close, Basile. Had Rusty been sharper, it could have been a close contest...he wasn't, especially in the morning. No surprise...he's never beaten me.
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to sum up this thread, aesthetics will never win over definition and mass. never. unless the show is rigged. bob is the furthest thing from being aesthetically pleasing in most shots, but he won because he was the biggest and most ripped guy there. thats what the ifbb judging policy has been for over a decade now, and it's here to stay. dexter jackson is the exception to the rule, because his conditioning overpowers the lack of mass he has.
rusty shouldnt have won, but he should have placed higher.
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At least in this picture, it is because Rusty is smooth. Look at his legs and delts in comparison. The other guy is cut much deeper and has lines on his delts.
However, since the overwhelming majority seem to favor a pleasing structure over ripped-to-shreds, maybe (Bob) the judges aught to conform to public opinion and weight things differently.
Give more points to body structure (which, as seen here, people seem to favor) and fewer points to conditioning (again, people don't care so much about).
A side benefit to such a change in judging would be that the genetically superior competitor would win (drugs do not help basic structure). And, drugs would mean less (at least cutting drugs), therefore aversely affecting competitors health less.
positives are as you said, and also being a show where the guys with generically 'great' structures are put ahead.
negatives are many! guys with good structures but terrible physiques being placed ahead of regular guys with great physiques.
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Rusty was robbed. :o
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Wow, that's an impressive physique.
(http://i32.tinypic.com/210c4jk.jpg)
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Judging from all these pictures, both Bob and Rusty are not at their best and too smooth. Rusty looks a little harder and has alot better muscle separation over his entire upper body than Bob. If these pics of Rusty are all from the night show than it isn't a legitimate comparison since everyone says Rusty was out of condition for the prejudging where the contest is really decided.
Bob only looks impressive in the front double biceps pose where he can show off his size and good v taper with some separation in the quads. In all the other poses, his lack of separation and hardness shows.
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Rusty was so screwed......he was the best that day. But hey, yet another reason why the IFBB can't be taken seriously. Hell, look at the Mr.O last year..... ::)
its who sponsors you now what you can bring on stage that day....proof (Mr. O 2007) that you can come in looking like a fridge, smooth, bloated, and still win 140k plus only in bodybuilding.
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Bob, according to the poll here on Getbig it is clear that Rusty beat you 2 to 1 for the Masters. You haven't always beaten him now.
What a pity that believing something doesn't make it true. Sorry to say but you were given a gift. Given your involvement in that contest it now seems rather suspect when a video was being made and you were the star. Brings back memories of Pumping Iron where Serge was told he couldn't compete and then stopped eating and training and then lost too much size to challenge Arnold.
I guess you are confident that the officials in the IFBB endorse your victory and that no judge deviated from the decision. You guys really do stick together afterall. Too bad there couldn't be an investigation into possible favoritism in that contest because the evidence of photos is going against you.
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Bob, according to the poll here on Getbig it is clear that Rusty beat you 2 to 1 for the Masters. You haven't always beaten him now.
You're kidding, right? Seriously, you're kidding, right? He *lost* a poll on a web forum and you say that means he actually LOST something? LMAO.
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Rusty is a friend of mine for years. His pictures in no way do him justice and if you were to see him in person, all of you would be very surprised. Some of the greatest calves and abs!
Rusty is equally impressive as a person- shy, but always polite to everyone.
Example: Just a month ago Rusty and I were on the treadmill: People were going up to say how he was ripped off [ some were in attendance at the event] with unflatering statements about some of the contestants. Rusty [ typical of a true champion] would NOT say a bad word about ANY contestant ONLY positive comments. Something to be learned perhaps?
On a side note ask Rusty who his favorite bodybuilder of all time is: You guessed it, Mike Mentzer follwed by Casey Viator and myself[ Ha!].
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Bob, according to the poll here on Getbig it is clear that Rusty beat you 2 to 1 for the Masters. You haven't always beaten him now.
What a pity that believing something doesn't make it true. Sorry to say but you were given a gift. Given your involvement in that contest it now seems rather suspect when a video was being made and you were the star. Brings back memories of Pumping Iron where Serge was told he couldn't compete and then stopped eating and training and then lost too much size to challenge Arnold.
I guess you are confident that the officials in the IFBB endorse your victory and that no judge deviated from the decision. You guys really do stick together afterall. Too bad there couldn't be an investigation into possible favoritism in that contest because the evidence of photos is going against you.
Yeah...star of my OWN film...LOL...what an idiot. Who do you believe funded the project, the IFBB? Were the judges producers of the Fitshow?
God...you are a blithering idiot, Basile....
You should follow your own advice..."believing in something does not make it true".....you believe what you want, we actually had a contest in the real world to determine the winner.
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hahahahaaaa, it's so funny seeing Mr. Canada 1915 own himself beyond belief in this thread. ;D
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hahahahaaaa, it's so funny seeing Mr. Canada 1915 own himself beyond belief in this thread. ;D
>:( I gotta tell ya that it is a bit sad to see a fellow Cdn pwning himself like he is, but it's like Vince has a deathwish or something. He is just impervious to criticism, negative or positive, and just has to be heard, or to pontificate. Godspeed Mr. Canada, Godspeed. :-\
/i did like the mr. beaverpelt 1821 tho :D
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I haven't lived in Canada for 37 years. I am doing fine in this thread. Whenever a philosopher argues with a Sophist it is hard to convince spectators who has the advantage. When I know I am right about something I persist. Praise and blame are cast aside like rain from an umbrella. Bob is stubbling around wondering what to say next.
You have to laugh when a fan of his puts up this poll to support Bob and poor Bob gets 25% of the vote while Rusty gets 60%. The OP must be shaking his head.
I feel sorry for anyone who got put down in a contest. That happened to me in 1975 when Paul Graham and governor Arnold made me come last in my class in the Mr Australia contest in Melbourne. When I see that happening to others it pisses me off and I have to speak up. Rusty Jeffers was put way down against a lot of ageing guys nowhere near as good as he was. It is actually embarrassing to see how bad they look in the individual poses. Bob is a big guy and his presentation is professional but he just doesn't have the hardness, shape or aesthetics to beat Rusty. The guy is on a different level and maybe one day Bob might admit it. Naw, guys like him and Goodrum never fess up about stuff like this.
Some people here have agreed with me and others do not. So what, this is why we have more than one judge at bodybuilding contests.
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Soda Popinski really put on some size since 85'.
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Vince...post some pics of Rusty from behind from the Master's (not old photos)...you will see weakness, thus the crux of his low placing.
I also don't think his 'alternative' activities helped him much, like it or not.
I thought Bob deserved top honors that day. Just my opinion
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I haven't lived in Canada for 37 years[fine] I am doing fine in this thread.[no. that is speculative] Whenever a philosopher argues with a Sophist [now that would be a party!] npmhard to convince spectators who has the advantage. When I know I am right about something I persist. Praise and blame are cast aside like rain from an umbrella. Bob is stubbling around wondering what to say next.
You have to laugh when a fan of his puts up this poll to support Bob and poor Bob gets 25% of the vote while Rusty gets 60%. The OP must be shaking his head.
I feel sorry for anyone who got put down in a contest. That happened to me in 1975 when Paul Graham and governor Arnold made me come last in my class in the Mr Australia contest in Melbourne. When I see that happening to others it pisses me off and I have to speak up. Rusty Jeffers was put way down against a lot of ageing guys nowhere near as good as he was. It is actually embarrassing to see how bad they look in the individual poses. Bob is a big guy and his presentation is professional but he just doesn't have the hardness, shape or aesthetics to beat Rusty. The guy is on a different level and maybe one day Bob might admit it. Naw, guys like him and Goodrum never fess up about stuff like this.
Some people here have agreed with me and others do not. So what, this is why we have more than one judge at bodybuilding contests.
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Sometimes I think I am still at grad school arguing things in seminars. I remember the time I had this serious debate about whether the table in the room was actually there. It took a lot of convincing to accept that, philosophically, I could be wrong. Naturally, I was 100% convinced I was psychologically right. The point being that what is possible has really no limits. I wonder if most of the lads here know the difference?
Bob has little clue about debating an issue in a rational fashion. He merely attacks the person and keeps dismissing the issue instead of confronting it. Amazing that some here think he is doing a good job. Guess that is why guys like Arnold got elected, huh? He explains all the unsavoury things he did in the past as stuff young fellows do. I don't think so. The guy didn't think laws applied to him and he took whatever he wanted and usually got what he wanted. Too bad guys like him Arnold and Zane don't post here. Mike is gone so we lost the main philosopher in bodybuilding which is a pity.
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Sometimes I think I am still at grad school arguing things in seminars. I remember the time I had this serious debate about whether the table in the room was actually there. It took a lot of convincing to accept that, philosophically, I could be wrong. Naturally, I was 100% convinced I was psychologically right. The point being that what is possible has really no limits. I wonder if most of the lads here know the difference?
Bob has little clue about debating an issue in a rational fashion. He merely attacks the person and keeps dismissing the issue instead of confronting it. Amazing that some here think he is doing a good job. Guess that is why guys like Arnold got elected, huh? He explains all the unsavoury things he did in the past as stuff young fellows do. I don't think so. The guy didn't think laws applied to him and he took whatever he wanted and usually got what he wanted. Too bad guys like him Arnold and Zane don't post here. Mike is gone so we lost the main philosopher in bodybuilding which is a pity.
Why do you post in lavender?
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Why do you post in lavender?
cuz he's queer
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It is navy. My signature posts. What is the big deal about using coloured fonts?
knny is pissed off his mate lost this poll. Talk about unproductive.
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Vince, any back shots of Jeffers?
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Sometimes I think I am still at grad school arguing things in seminars. I remember the time I had this serious debate about whether the table in the room was actually there. It took a lot of convincing to accept that, philosophically, I could be wrong. Naturally, I was 100% convinced I was psychologically right. The point being that what is possible has really no limits. I wonder if most of the lads here know the difference?
Bob has little clue about debating an issue in a rational fashion. He merely attacks the person and keeps dismissing the issue instead of confronting it. Amazing that some here think he is doing a good job. Guess that is why guys like Arnold got elected, huh? He explains all the unsavoury things he did in the past as stuff young fellows do. I don't think so. The guy didn't think laws applied to him and he took whatever he wanted and usually got what he wanted. Too bad guys like him Arnold and Zane don't post here. Mike is gone so we lost the main philosopher in bodybuilding which is a pity.
I'm sure you don't see the irony to your rambling....it's YOU that can't debate for shit...as Ron and everybody else has pointed out. I've addressed your points one by one and you can never counter back without making yourself look even worse than you started out....it's quite laughable at this point.
I got news for you, Basile...your hero Mentzer was the biggest drug abuser of them all...quite the philosopher.
You come accross as uneducated, and incoherrant at times....alzheimers, perhaps? At this point, I almost feel bad ripping on you.
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Rusty cops so much flak for his moustache. He just seems to suck it up though.
Rusty looks like the dude out of the Village people...
I think he cut off the mustache a few months after that show...i recall seeing updated photos of him sans stach. Made me sad, that stach is fuckin SWEET in a totally not homo way of course.
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Indeed, I have read that not only did MM indulge in steroids, but he was quite the narcotic user.
Never saw the connection as to why he waxed so philosophically all the time....
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Rusty has a great 80's physique...Its obvious he was trying to get the gay vote showing up with the push broom stash...I'm surprised he didn't pose to the Village People...Although is posing was great, he may as well went the whole 9 years and gave us all his version of YMCA...
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Judging by those pics, Rusty definitely was robbed.
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Bob was more ripped and bigger than Rusty. But rusty just looked better. I give the win to Bob cause he is funny and not a uberhomo like rusty.
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Indeed, I have read that not only did MM indulge in steroids, but he was quite the narcotic user.
Never saw the connection as to why he waxed so philosophically all the time....
I've said it before and I'll say it again.....Mike Mentzer was as thick as pigshit. I actually trained with him and Ray in Golds Venice (Hampton Drive) 1981 when I was Controller of JM Huber Corporation and they paid for me to work in California for 6 months. I came back to Scotland in October that year and placed top 3 Masters Mr Scotland NABBA (my first show in 10 years, last one being NABBA Universe medium height 1971). I won the Masters West Coast UK in December 1981. Both Mike and Ray used g4p (sometimes together for $200 per hour) to make their rent. It's real sad what happened to them because they were hetro guys who really hated riding the Hershay Highway.
I have to say that Bob looks damn good in the pictures posted on this thread.
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I've said it before and I'll say it again.....Mike Mentzer was as thick as pigshit. I actually trained with him and Ray in Golds Venice (Hampton Drive) 1981 when I was Controller of JM Huber Corporation and they paid for me to work in California for 6 months. I came back to Scotland in October that year and placed top 3 Masters Mr Scotland NABBA (my first show in 10 years, last one being NABBA Universe medium height 1971). I won the Masters West Coast UK in December 1981. Both Mike and Ray used g4p (sometimes together for $200 per hour) to make their rent. It's real sad what happened to them because they were hetro guys who really hated riding the Hershay Highway.
I have to say that Bob looks damn good in the pictures posted on this thread.
Hey Jummy! Any stories about Bob Chic himself?
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hahahahhaaa, was there ever a pro who wasn't gay according to this clown?
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hahahahhaaa, was there ever a pro who wasn't gay according to this clown?
Jummy has some good stories.
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hahahahhaaa, was there ever a pro who wasn't gay according to this clown?
Hello Squadfather, you fat piece of garbage.
That pic you have posted was taken on my 70'th birthday and featured in the Daily Mail Newspaper which has a circulation of 10 million in the UK. What have you achieved in your pathetic life? I am a chartered accountant, former Sergent in the Black Watch, winner of 63 bodybuilding titles, father of 3 and grandfather of 7. I probably earn more in my 3 days a month consultancy than you make in a year. You are a fat piece of shit. Sonny. 8)
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Hello Squadfather, you fat piece of garbage.
That pic you have posted was taken on my 70'th birthday and featured in the Daily Mail Newspaper which has a circulation of 10 million in the UK. What have you achieved in your pathetic life? I am a chartered accountant, former Sergent in the Black Watch, winner of 63 bodybuilding titles, father of 3 and grandfather of 7. I probably earn more in my 3 days a month consultancy than you make in a year. You are a fat piece of shit. Sonny. 8)
uh oh the 72 year old 156 pound badass who grabbed Dorian Yates' balls is calling me names, whatever shall i do? ;D ::)
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Hey Jummy! Any stories about Bob Chic himself?
Hello emn1964.
Bob always specialised in servicing older ladies (in their 70's and 80's). He has one girlfriend in particular called Gladys who is mid 80's and who like to watch bob performing oral sex on her little poodle Trixiebell.
He is a total pervert.
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Hello emn1964.
Bob always specialised in servicing older ladies (in their 70's and 80's). He has one girlfriend in particular called Gladys who is mid 80's and who like to watch bob performing oral sex on her little poodle Trixiebell.
He is a total pervert.
hahahhahaa, BAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNN NNNNNNNNGGGGGG :D
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Squadfather I actually quite like you. You are a funny guy. Thats why I'm going to kill you last. With my pliers. 8)
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Squadfather I actually quite like you. You are a funny guy. Thats why I'm going to kill you last. With my pliers. 8)
how long did it take for you to build that work of art of a physique with the massive 14 inch arms and stomach that sticks out further than your chest?
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Hello emn1964.
Bob always specialised in servicing older ladies (in their 70's and 80's). He has one girlfriend in particular called Gladys who is mid 80's and who like to watch bob performing oral sex on her little poodle Trixiebell.
He is a total pervert.
Hahahahahahaha...damn that is a good one.
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how long did it take for you to build that work of art of a physique with the massive 14 inch arms and stomach that sticks out further than your chest?
Sonny I am 70 years old in that shot and my arms are a hard 16.75. They were around 18 back in the day. I actually competed against Arnold in his first Mr Universe and I count Paul Grant, Ian Lawrence, Bill Grant and Chris Dickerson as friends. I am also a fairly wealthy old cunt and have enjoyed my life. What have you achieved Fatboy?
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Hahaha, Jimmy owning everyone left and right ;D
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haha jimmy thomson has been working on his physique since the depresssion
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haha jimmy thomson has been working on his physique since the depresssion
you mean perfecting. jummy is the bodybuilding oracle.
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I heard he grabbed George Washington's sack when they were crossing the Deleware.
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I heard he grabbed George Washington's sack when they were crossing the Deleware.
with a pair of ye olde pliers
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I got news for you, Basile...your hero Mentzer was the biggest drug abuser of them all...quite the philosopher.
You're talking about 'other' drugs...not steroids right?
;)
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In these days we called them piliers. And she wore a yellow ribban in her hair......... I don't get sore with losers like Squadfather any more, my fighting days are behind me. I take great pride in my grandkids. I hope somedays you all will feel that pride...... 8)
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Poor old Squadfather.... his mom still washes his pants.........
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Poor old Squadfather.... his mom still wshes his pants.........
hahahahhahhaa, BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMM MM ;D
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hahahahhahhaa, BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMM MM ;D
was that posted in his nursing home's newsletter?
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Both Mike and Ray used g4p (sometimes together for $200 per hour) to make their rent. It's real sad what happened to them because they were hetro guys who really hated riding the Hershay Highway.
I have to say that Bob looks damn good in the pictures posted on this thread.
I spent a lot of time with Ray. I find it hard to believe that he would have done that. No way. He was very anti homosexuals. He did tell me that his dad told him to look after Mike when he went through that bad period in the eighties. Later Mike looked after Ray. Very sad how they ended up. Maybe if there was rigid testing for drugs those guys might still be here? Ray told me in 1991 that a lot of the big guys were getting sick when their bodyweights were approaching 300 pounds. I didn't ask him about the illnesses but it didn't sound good. Ray was a smart guy but he was too cavalier about 'gonad stimulators'. Sounds like he might have picked that up from Arthur. Just guessing here.
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I've said it before and I'll say it again.....Mike Mentzer was as thick as pigshit. I actually trained with him and Ray in Golds Venice (Hampton Drive) 1981 when I was Controller of JM Huber Corporation and they paid for me to work in California for 6 months. I came back to Scotland in October that year and placed top 3 Masters Mr Scotland NABBA (my first show in 10 years, last one being NABBA Universe medium height 1971). I won the Masters West Coast UK in December 1981. Both Mike and Ray used g4p (sometimes together for $200 per hour) to make their rent. It's real sad what happened to them because they were hetro guys who really hated riding the Hershay Highway.
I have to say that Bob looks damn good in the pictures posted on this thread.
You know too much! ::)
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jimmy ignore squadfather, he's just jealous that he'll never achieve a fraction of what you have.
maybe this will make you feel better:
(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44575000/jpg/_44575127_naka_badge_sns416.jpg)
;D ;D ;D ;)
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jimmy ignore squadfather, he's just jealous that he'll never achieve a fraction of what you have.
maybe this will make you feel better:
(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44575000/jpg/_44575127_naka_badge_sns416.jpg)
;D ;D ;D ;)
Ha ha Fatpanda. Your not a bad lad for a Pape. The result during the week kept things a wee bit interesting. The Gers will still win the league of course. :D
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Sonny I am 70 years old in that shot and my arms are a hard 16.75. They were around 18 back in the day. I actually competed against Arnold in his first Mr Universe and I count Paul Grant, Ian Lawrence, Bill Grant and Chris Dickerson as friends. I am also a fairly wealthy old #### and have enjoyed my life. What have you achieved Fatboy?
this is what sausage fingers aka fatboy has achieved, huge forearms with sparse hair!
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Ha ha Fatpanda. Your not a bad lad for a Pape. The result during the week kept things a wee bit interesting. The Gers will still win the league of course. :D
we shall see ;)
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A painfull reminder... let us honor the fallen Iron Warrior Rusty (Hardwick) Jeffers!
M!
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Anyone who takes the time to view the images from the 2006 World Pro Masters championships will be amazed that Rusty Jeffers was overlooked. How the judges gave the title to Bob 'Rhetoric' Chick is one of those mysterious things the IFBB judges often do. Makes no sense to any unbiased observer of bodybuilding. Jeffers has the shape, size and condition to win. He stands out far above the others.
The only problem for the judges was who to place next. Not so obvious that it was Chick. Surprisingly, Bob and Rusty were not compared according to the images I have seen on line. Disregard that there are so many images of Bob. That doesn't mean he deserved to win the title. Look for yourself and be amazed.
As far as I am concerned, to place Rusty 8th was a travesty similar to what happened to Bev Francis in 1983 when she placed 8th behind Rachel McLish and other women. When the IFBB doesn't want you to win you get placed 8th. Ditto for Sergio in his last Olympia.
Who were the judges? I would never let any of those judge a contest again. Shame on the IFBB. A pity for Bob because that sort of thing shouldn't happen. No matter, we can get Bob Chick to sort this out with the Pro Committee.
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/2006nymasters_res.htm
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Hey sweetboy, why did you delete Big Poppa's thread here and then repost it? What kind of an asshat are you?
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Hey Basile, any particular reason your boy Rusty Jeffers has an alternate name of "Carl Hardwick" he uses when he does gay porn?
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=209987.0;attach=245455;image)
At least in this picture, it is because Rusty is smooth. Look at his legs and delts in comparison. The other guy is cut much deeper and has lines on his delts.
However, since the overwhelming majority seem to favor a pleasing structure over ripped-to-shreds, maybe (Bob) the judges aught to conform to public opinion and weight things differently.
Give more points to body structure (which, as seen here, people seem to favor) and fewer points to conditioning (again, people don't care so much about).
A side benefit to such a change in judging would be that the genetically superior competitor would win (drugs do not help basic structure). And, drugs would mean less (at least cutting drugs), therefore aversely affecting competitors health less.
This is an excellent post.
For your suggestions to work though, the judge's scoresheet would have to be altered so as to show the breakdown of the components being assessed.
This is a very simple and obvious way of improving bodybuilding.
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Not this shit again... :-[
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there was another old thread about Rusty, Chick & the Masters that somebody bumped yesterday wherein 240's analysis of the politics behind Chick's hollow victory was spot on. has that thread now been deleted?
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there was another old thread about Rusty, Chick & the Masters that somebody bumped yesterday wherein 240's analysis of the politics behind Chick's hollow victory was spot on. has that thread now been deleted?