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Title: Does Stretching Really Matter?
Post by: SF1900 on May 03, 2019, 01:32:34 PM
Does stretching really prevent injury? I recently read there is no correlation between stretching and injury prevention.

I mean, a lion does not warm up before it attacks on a deer or wilderbeest.
Title: Re: Does Stretching Really Matter?
Post by: visualizeperfection on May 03, 2019, 01:33:34 PM
I have pulled things when I fail to stretch. Achilles and hamstring.
Title: Re: Does Stretching Really Matter?
Post by: robcguns on May 03, 2019, 01:35:06 PM
 IMO no,never stretched anything.I think stretching a cold muscle is dangerous.
Title: Re: Does Stretching Really Matter?
Post by: Henda on May 03, 2019, 01:42:18 PM
Never stretched in my life and suffered no ill affects off it
Title: Re: Does Stretching Really Matter?
Post by: IroNat on May 03, 2019, 02:00:45 PM
There are different types of stretching.  Static, dynamic, isometric.

Static stretching doesn't prevent injury.  It can even make injury more likely particularly if you stretch before you workout.

Dynamic stretching, however, is good before you workout.  Getting blood into a joint and muscles before working can prevent injury.

If you want to do static stretching do it after you work out when your muscles and joints are warmed up.

What stretching does is make you more flexible which is beneficial to certain activities like martial arts.

Flexibility is good for some things but detrimental to other things.  Excessive flexibility is generally detrimental to strength and power training.

Title: Re: Does Stretching Really Matter?
Post by: Humble Narcissist on May 03, 2019, 02:25:18 PM
There are different types of stretching.  Static, dynamic, isometric.

Static stretching doesn't prevent injury.  It can even make injury more likely particularly if you stretch before you workout.

Dynamic stretching, however, is good before you workout.  Getting blood into a joint and muscles before working can prevent injury.

If you want to do static stretching do it after you work out when your muscles and joints are warmed up.

What stretching does is make you more flexible which is beneficial to certain activities like martial arts.

Flexibility is good for some things but detrimental to other things.  Excessive flexibility is generally detrimental to strength and power training.


Listen to this guy. 

Stretching Scientifically by Thomas Kurz is a great book that covers all of these different stretches.
Title: Re: Does Stretching Really Matter?
Post by: oldtimer1 on May 03, 2019, 02:47:11 PM
You need a range of motion so you won't get injured. Anything extra is a waste. Too much flexibility is a sign of weakness. Dynamic stretching is the way to go. You will never see a sprinter do static stretches prior to running. They do bouncing stretches that for decades the "experts" say was dangerous. Static stretches can decrease power.
Title: Re: Does Stretching Really Matter?
Post by: Kahn.N.Singh on May 03, 2019, 03:16:55 PM
Stretching is for the foolish and naive. I believe that one turns to stretching only when there is an inner genetic inadequacy or an outer impediment to development: in either case, the jelg will always be on you.
Title: Re: Does Stretching Really Matter?
Post by: wes on May 03, 2019, 03:24:30 PM
Never did a bit of stretching.

As a result,I have zero flexibility even when I was much younger.

Title: Re: Does Stretching Really Matter?
Post by: B_MyT_2 on May 03, 2019, 03:43:41 PM
Does stretching really prevent injury? I recently read there is no correlation between stretching and injury prevention.

I mean, a lion does not warm up before it attacks on a deer or wilderbeest.

I'll say this much...since returning to the gym after my bicep tendon tear, I start every workout with about 10-15 minutes of band, cable, very light dbells, and stretching movements that I was put through when I did PT.  If I am training back or arms, I go to the gym that has the hand-bike (which is how every PT session started) for 1 minute forward then 1 minute backward for each arm before that other stuff.  The shoulder and elbow nagging pains that I had for almost all of my heavy training years and into my 30's & 40's has improved by I'd say 65-75% if I had to put a number on it.

My lower back, and legs are another story, but I think that's just part of creeping to 50.  I need to get back to yoga like I did when I was around 38.  Just took around 20 poses that I got from 3 different dvds, and did that 3-4 times a week in the mornings.  Only takes 25-30 minutes tops, and made a huge difference.  It's just a pain in the ass to get in the habit of doing that on top of cardio in the a.m.

As for your theory on the lion....that's not true.  Watch your cat or dog when they get up from resting.  They stretch almost every time as every waking moment is instinctually about being ready to find food.
Title: Re: Does Stretching Really Matter?
Post by: SF1900 on May 03, 2019, 03:46:45 PM
Never stretched in my life and suffered no ill affects off it

Same here. Never stretched and never had any injuries, other than the minor aches and pains that come with lifting.
Title: Re: Does Stretching Really Matter?
Post by: B_MyT_2 on May 03, 2019, 03:53:23 PM
Same here. Never stretched and never had any injuries, other than the minor aches and pains that come with lifting.

It's coming.  Age gets everyone.


Maybe having MPD works to your advantage in this regard?   You don't stay in one personality long enough to agonize your joint pain or muscle aches.
Title: Re: Does Stretching Really Matter?
Post by: Dave D on May 03, 2019, 03:53:54 PM


As for your theory on the lion....that's not true.  Watch your cat or dog when they get up from resting.  They stretch almost every time as every waking moment is instinctually about being ready to find food.

Please dont compare domesticated pets to the king of the jungle.

Dogs and cats eat from bowls provided for them. You ever see a lion eat from a bowl?

I try to use that hand bike on pressing days, I dont think its very effective. What are you setting the resistance at?
Title: Re: Does Stretching Really Matter?
Post by: SF1900 on May 03, 2019, 03:55:57 PM
Please dont compare domesticated pets to the king of the jungle.

Dogs and cats eat from bowls provided for them. You ever see a lion eat from a bowl?

I try to use that hand bike on pressing days, I dont think its very effective. What are you setting the resistance at?

I have never seen a lion stretch, then immediately pounce on another animal. It's usually from stalking the prey, right to full on sprint. I have never seen a lion stalk a prey, stop to stretch, then spring toward the prey.  ??? ???
Title: Re: Does Stretching Really Matter?
Post by: B_MyT_2 on May 03, 2019, 03:59:23 PM
Please dont compare domesticated pets to the king of the jungle.

Dogs and cats eat from bowls provided for them. You ever see a lion eat from a bowl?

I try to use that hand bike on pressing days, I dont think its very effective. What are you setting the resistance at?

I'm just making a simple analogy for a simple mind....relax.

As for the hand bike question, I don't know.  It just has a knob you turn with  + and - symbols on it.  It's not to warm up my muscles, it's for my tendons.  It's a stand up one so I kind of keep positioning myself at different angles while doing it.  The resistance level is probably pretty minimal compared to what you're using it for from the sound of it.  I just never want to feel and hear a tendon pop free again. 8)
Title: Re: Does Stretching Really Matter?
Post by: B_MyT_2 on May 03, 2019, 04:01:01 PM
I have never seen a lion stretch, then immediately pounce on another animal. It's usually from stalking the prey, right to full on sprint. I have never seen a lion stalk a prey, stop to stretch, then spring toward the prey.  ??? ???

Do you spend a lot of time in Africa watching lions to know all of this?
Title: Re: Does Stretching Really Matter?
Post by: Dave D on May 03, 2019, 04:04:25 PM
I have never seen a lion stretch, then immediately pounce on another animal. It's usually from stalking the prey, right to full on sprint. I have never seen a lion stalk a prey, stop to stretch, then spring toward the prey.  ??? ???

The only time I've EVER seen Lions stretch was before practice or a game. And these are pro football players so that should tell you something.

But this also reminds me of a story my grandfather would tell me when I was growing up:

Every morning in Africa, a gazelle wakes up and instinctively knows it must out run the fastest lion or be killed. Every morning a lion wakes up and knows it must run faster than the slowest gazelle, or it will starve. It doesn't make if you're the gazelle or the lion, when the sun comes up you'd better be running.

Nothing about either one of them stretching.

Title: Re: Does Stretching Really Matter?
Post by: Dave D on May 03, 2019, 04:07:00 PM
I'm just making a simple analogy for a simple mind....relax.

As for the hand bike question, I don't know.  It just has a knob you turn with  + and - symbols on it.  It's not to warm up my muscles, it's for my tendons.  It's a stand up one so I kind of keep positioning myself at different angles while doing it.  The resistance level is probably pretty minimal compared to what you're using it for from the sound of it.  I just never want to feel and hear a tendon pop free again. 8)

It's a tendon warm up? The gyms I visit have both the standing and seated versions. I never see anyone use them so i'm not entirely sure I use it correctly.

I'll Google a video and see what I can learn. Thanks bro
Title: Re: Does Stretching Really Matter?
Post by: Dave D on May 03, 2019, 04:08:14 PM
Do you spend a lot of time in Africa watching lions to know all of this?

Do you spend a lot of time watching cats and dogs all over the world to know this, or have you ever considered the possibility you might have lazy pets?
Title: Re: Does Stretching Really Matter?
Post by: SF1900 on May 03, 2019, 04:34:53 PM
The only time I've EVER seen Lions stretch was before practice or a game. And these are pro football players so that should tell you something.

But this also reminds me of a story my grandfather would tell me when I was growing up:

Every morning in Africa, a gazelle wakes up and instinctively knows it must out run the fastest lion or be killed. Every morning a lion wakes up and knows it must run faster than the slowest gazelle, or it will starve. It doesn't make if you're the gazelle or the lion, when the sun comes up you'd better be running.

Nothing about either one of them stretching.



haha lol.

Agreed. Your grandfather is wise beyond his years and apparently knows a lot about animal behavior. Was he an ethologist or zoologist?
Title: Re: Does Stretching Really Matter?
Post by: Royalty on May 03, 2019, 04:40:54 PM
haha lol.

Agreed. Your grandfather is wise beyond his years and apparently knows a lot about animal behavior. Was he an ethologist or zoologist?

That quote is not his own. It’s a famous saying
Title: Re: Does Stretching Really Matter?
Post by: SF1900 on May 03, 2019, 04:49:15 PM
That quote is not his own. It’s a famous saying

Dave D just committed plagiarism.

I shall report him to the appropriate Getbig authorities.
Title: Re: Does Stretching Really Matter?
Post by: Dave D on May 03, 2019, 05:05:34 PM
That quote is not his own. It’s a famous saying

I said my grandfather told me that story Royalty, if thats even your real name.  how do you know my grandpa wasnt the originator of that story? Hes older than the internet

Did you ever consider the saying is famous because my grandfather repeatedly told it to others iver the course of his life and that those people repeated the story and so on....?

Dave D just committed plagiarism.

I shall report him to the appropriate Getbig authorities.

I did not plagiarize. My grandpa told that story. Dont report me.
Title: Re: Does Stretching Really Matter?
Post by: Royalty on May 03, 2019, 05:13:01 PM
I said my grandfather told me that story Royalty, if thats even your real name.  how do you know my grandpa wasnt the originator of that story? Hes older than the internet

Did you ever consider the saying is famous because my grandfather repeatedly told it to others iver the course of his life and that those people repeated the story and so on....?

I did not plagiarize. My grandpa told that story. Dont report me.

David D please relax,   It’s a famous saying... that is all. Relax.
Title: Re: Does Stretching Really Matter?
Post by: IRON CROSS on May 03, 2019, 05:20:35 PM
Do you spend a lot of time in Africa watching lions to know all of this?


Actually lionesses do all the work, lion just come to eat , then bonk them  ;D
Title: Re: Does Stretching Really Matter?
Post by: IRON CROSS on May 03, 2019, 05:24:32 PM
I'll ask Zenadine Zidan (Real Madrid coach) about worm up/stretching of football players  ;)
Title: Re: Does Stretching Really Matter?
Post by: Irongrip400 on May 03, 2019, 05:40:20 PM
If it works for you and feel it makes a difference, then do it. If not, don’t waste your time. I personally can tell my lower back hurts more when the hammys are tight.
Title: Re: Does Stretching Really Matter?
Post by: The Scott on May 03, 2019, 06:06:07 PM
Does stretching really prevent injury? I recently read there is no correlation between stretching and injury prevention.

I mean, a lion does not warm up before it attacks on a deer or wilderbeest.

You are an insufferable twatling. 
Title: Re: Does Stretching Really Matter?
Post by: basil on May 03, 2019, 06:14:33 PM
Chest, shoulder and hips are critical if you’re in the game long enough.  If you neglect working on mobility in these areas, it’s only a matter if time until problems rear their ugly head.
Title: Re: Does Stretching Really Matter?
Post by: SF1900 on May 03, 2019, 06:20:20 PM
Chest, shoulder and hips are critical if you’re in the game long enough.  If you neglect working on mobility in these areas, it’s only a matter if time until problems rear their ugly head.

I could definitely see hips and shoulders being important to warm up.
Title: Re: Does Stretching Really Matter?
Post by: SF1900 on May 03, 2019, 06:21:34 PM
If it works for you and feel it makes a difference, then do it. If not, don’t waste your time. I personally can tell my lower back hurts more when the hammys are tight.

I do not routinely stretch, as I find it boring.

Maybe I’ll have to include it into my training regimen.
Title: Re: Does Stretching Really Matter?
Post by: chaos on May 03, 2019, 06:32:33 PM
I stretch 4-5 nights a week.
Title: Re: Does Stretching Really Matter?
Post by: SF1900 on May 03, 2019, 06:36:24 PM
I stretch 4-5 nights a week.

Do you wear yoga pants when you stretch? Would love to see you stretch.

Title: Re: Does Stretching Really Matter?
Post by: chaos on May 03, 2019, 06:43:10 PM
Do you wear yoga pants when you stretch? Would love to see you stretch.


Would love to half tortoise/rabbit with you.
Title: Re: Does Stretching Really Matter?
Post by: tres_taco_combo on May 03, 2019, 08:03:31 PM
as a hard core yogi - my answer is yes

hot yoga has been a total game changer for me - biggest health, mind and solid gains made (not size but body control, abs, trimmed up)
Title: Re: Does Stretching Really Matter?
Post by: AbrahamG on May 03, 2019, 10:16:48 PM

Actually lionesses do all the work, lion just come to eat , then bonk them  ;D

Just like hebrews! 
Title: Re: Does Stretching Really Matter?
Post by: WalterWhite on May 03, 2019, 10:22:03 PM
I really upped the cardio the last couple of years and found foam rolling has helped with my hips, lower back and completely alleviated sciatica.

Stretching has also helped with my lumbar issues.
Title: Re: Does Stretching Really Matter?
Post by: IRON CROSS on May 03, 2019, 11:47:12 PM
Just like hebrews! 


Is that why U run away from Syria to Michigan  ;D



Title: Re: Does Stretching Really Matter?
Post by: Humble Narcissist on May 04, 2019, 02:35:55 AM

Actually lionesses do all the work, lion just come to eat , then bonk them  ;D
That's why the lion is the king.
Title: Re: Does Stretching Really Matter?
Post by: Bevo on May 04, 2019, 03:10:09 AM
Stretching helped bobert extend his career and turned pro at a later age

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=360750.0;attach=396402;image)
Title: Re: Does Stretching Really Matter?
Post by: SF1900 on May 04, 2019, 03:11:33 AM
Stretching helped bobert extend his career and turned pro at a later age

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=360750.0;attach=396402;image)

Lmao!! Classic!   ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Does Stretching Really Matter?
Post by: Powerlift66 on May 04, 2019, 03:18:28 AM
If someone cant touch their toe's, that's a problem. If someone can bend in half and blow them-self, also a problem.

People over think and over do things.

Do what you want, and what feels good (like blowing yourself), but being flexible as you age is better than being a stiff board.

https://www.t-nation.com/training/stretching-is-bs
Title: Re: Does Stretching Really Matter?
Post by: Wiggs on May 04, 2019, 04:26:53 AM
Does stretching really prevent injury? I recently read there is no correlation between stretching and injury prevention.

I mean, a lion does not warm up before it attacks on a deer or wilderbeest.

Absofreakinglutley.

You're not a lion, you're a human being. There's various types of stretching appropriate for certain situations. There's static and dynamic stretching for instance. If you lift or you're a bodybuilder stretching should be apart of your arsenal. Not just for injury prevention but for, ROM and aesthetic reasons as well.

BTW, I'm speaking as personal trainer & a LICENSED Massage Therapist. 
Title: Re: Does Stretching Really Matter?
Post by: Leatherneck on May 04, 2019, 04:57:49 AM
I stretch so much more now than in my youth but flexibility is something that diminishes quickly.
Title: Re: Does Stretching Really Matter?
Post by: Humble Narcissist on May 04, 2019, 11:18:37 AM
AthleanX covers all you need to know about stretching and muscle imbalances on Youtube.
Title: Re: Does Stretching Really Matter?
Post by: tres_taco_combo on May 04, 2019, 12:42:11 PM
I really upped the cardio the last couple of years and found foam rolling has helped with my hips, lower back and completely alleviated sciatica.

Stretching has also helped with my lumbar issues.

how much cardio were you doing? what kind?
how much cardio now? what kind

what is the need for the extra cardio?

i just love to hear other opinions on cardio
Title: Re: Does Stretching Really Matter?
Post by: wes on May 04, 2019, 02:37:21 PM
If someone cant touch their toe's, that's a problem. If someone can bend in half and blow them-self, also a problem.

People over think and over do things.

Do what you want, and what feels good (like blowing yourself), but being flexible as you age is better than being a stiff board.

https://www.t-nation.com/training/stretching-is-bs
If I could blow myself,I`d never leave the house! 
Title: Re: Does Stretching Really Matter?
Post by: Thin Lizzy on May 04, 2019, 03:23:42 PM
As a whole, it’s overrated, but, if you have tight muscles, as I do, a little bit does help keep you from getting overly tight and pulling things.

The entire routine should take a few minutes. Stretching for an hour is idiotic and will probably get you hurt more than it will help.
Title: Re: Does Stretching Really Matter?
Post by: IRON CROSS on May 04, 2019, 04:33:52 PM
Absofreakinglutley.



BTW, I'm speaking as personal trainer & a LICENSED Massage Therapist. 


Wiggy , would U give a massage to 'safety fat' & Prudence  ;D
Title: Re: Does Stretching Really Matter?
Post by: tres_taco_combo on May 04, 2019, 07:18:27 PM
the biggest problem is the amount of inflammation bbers carry.  ugh! including me
Title: Re: Does Stretching Really Matter?
Post by: pellius on May 05, 2019, 01:14:00 AM
Stretching is for the foolish and naive. I believe that one turns to stretching only when there is an inner genetic inadequacy or an outer impediment to development: in either case, the jelg will always be on you.

Obviously, you have never participated in physical sports. Or if you have you probably sucked at it. Try to do MMA, Jiu-Jitsu, gymnastics, Olympic Lifting, track and field, Muy Thai... without stretching and having above average flexibility.  

The general public won't appreciate this mount that BJ Penn got on Renzo Gracie. Virtually everybody throws their right leg up and over their opponent to get the mount position. But this leaves space so the opponent can prevent the mount by blocking with his knee putting it between him and the mounting leg. Sort of like doing a knee strike lying down. Though it looks easy only someone with the flexibility of a BJ Penn can literally slither his leg through Renzo's waistline leaving virtually no space for Renzo to defend.

You can be sure Penn spent a bit of time stretching during his MMA career.

Looks easy? You try it.

(http://cdn1.sbnation.com/imported_assets/847791/2_medium_medium.gif)

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/COd4P5Srl6o/hqdefault.jpg)
Title: Re: Does Stretching Really Matter?
Post by: MAXX on May 05, 2019, 01:26:19 AM
yes it helps. think about it...

The exaggerate my point. For example, when you get muscle cramps you stretch the muscle and it helps it go away. The muscle is tight it's the same thing.

Now imaging going doing heavy bench press with muscle cramps in your pecs. Yeah... not a good idea.

Title: Re: Does Stretching Really Matter?
Post by: Wiggs on May 05, 2019, 02:38:45 AM

Wiggy , would U give a massage to 'safety fat' & Prudence  ;D

Yes, why would I not because they're homosexual?  That doesn't mean anything.  If they cross a line, that's another story but I'm not going to assume they will just because they like men. It's a therapeutic massage not sexual.
Title: Re: Does Stretching Really Matter?
Post by: IRON CROSS on May 05, 2019, 05:21:15 AM
Yes, why would I not because they're homosexual?  That doesn't mean anything.  If they cross a line, that's another story but I'm not going to assume they will just because they like men. It's a therapeutic massage not sexual.


Comment of the year  ;D
Title: Re: Does Stretching Really Matter?
Post by: Kahn.N.Singh on May 05, 2019, 12:32:20 PM
Obviously, you have never participated in physical sports. Or if you have you probably sucked at it.*

Hi, Pellius,

*Neither disjunct is true.

Younger Kahn
hit many
a home run
(https://oi1156.photobucket.com/albums/p571/TimelordHercules/home%20run_zpspg5ldabq.jpg)

As for the post: connect the 'stretching' claims with the assonance and consonance between 'jelq' and its implied 'joke.'
Title: Re: Does Stretching Really Matter?
Post by: pellius on May 05, 2019, 02:05:22 PM
Hi, Pellius,

*Neither disjunct is true true.

Younger Kahn
hit many
a home run
(https://oi1156.photobucket.com/albums/p571/TimelordHercules/home%20run_zpspg5ldabq.jpg)

As for the post: connect the 'stretching' claims with the assonance and consonance between 'jelq' and its implied 'joke.'

What level? I hit many a home run in little league.
Title: Re: Does Stretching Really Matter?
Post by: Kahn.N.Singh on May 05, 2019, 02:10:36 PM
Good point, Pellius. That's me in Little League. I almost won MVP and Home Run Champion!
Title: Re: Does Stretching Really Matter?
Post by: Dave D on May 05, 2019, 03:25:32 PM
Good point, Pellius. That's me in Little League. I almost won MVP and Home Run Champion!

LOL

Pellius enters evidence of the benefits of flexibility from one of the elite MMA fighters in the world into a benefit of flexibility in the bench press discussion.

Classic
Title: Re: Does Stretching Really Matter?
Post by: cephissus on May 06, 2019, 01:34:15 AM
I stretch a lot, since my back, hamstrings, psoas, etc. stiffen up after running/walking, probably due to various deadlift/squat related injuries over the years. However, eating low-carb did way more for loosening my muscles than stretching. No idwa why. Its hell on the heart, though, so stretching it is.
Title: Re: Does Stretching Really Matter?
Post by: pellius on May 06, 2019, 01:57:00 AM
LOL

Pellius enters evidence of the benefits of flexibility from one of the elite MMA fighters in the world into a benefit of flexibility in the bench press discussion.

Classic

LOL

Pellius enters evidence of the benefits of stretching as it pertains to athletic performance and "Dave D" tries to claim it was a bench press discussion. Out of the 58 comments in this thread thus far the bench press is mentioned only once and it is in regard to cramping and that mention came after my comment about BJ Penn.

Classic.

Classic moron.
Title: Re: Does Stretching Really Matter?
Post by: budgiesmuggler on May 06, 2019, 03:16:19 AM
Does stretching really prevent injury? I recently read there is no correlation between stretching and injury prevention.

I mean, a lion does not warm up before it attacks on a deer or wilderbeest.

Lion's stretch all the time.
Title: Re: Does Stretching Really Matter?
Post by: Humble Narcissist on May 06, 2019, 03:32:25 AM
Lion's stretch all the time.
As do all cats.
Title: Re: Does Stretching Really Matter?
Post by: Dave D on May 06, 2019, 08:09:34 AM
LOL

Pellius enters evidence of the benefits of stretching as it pertains to athletic performance and "Dave D" tries to claim it was a bench press discussion. Out of the 58 comments in this thread thus far the bench press is mentioned only once and it is in regard to cramping and that mention came after my comment about BJ Penn.

Classic.

Classic moron.

LOL

MMA expert, protector of western freedoms, friend of Mark Furman, bum fighter and window air conditioning unit installer "Pellius" owned me.

Obviously this discussion was about the benefits of stretching for MMA competitions. When SF1900 posted his initial question I thought it was about lions, but thinking about it further I realize jungle cats are the originators of MMA. For them it's a way of life.

"Pellius" what is wrong with you?  You're very angry.

You act like you cant stand the members here yet you post every detail of your life on this board. You cant take a compliment nor a joke and in every discussion you act like you're the final authority on every matter. You insult everyone who disagrees or even questions you and then get upset because you end up getting lambasted for it.

Why do you post here, obviously by your tone and response the members here are far beneath you in status and intelligence, as it seems you really loathe this place?

Also kudos to you for living a "fantastic" and "amazing" life prior to getbig's existence but you need to realize you're just like the old bodybuilders Oldtimer1 refers to, they carry a crumpled picture of their former self in their wallet that they show everyone and continually refer to the past glory days.

You cant treat everyone like garbage and expect to be respected here.
Title: Re: Does Stretching Really Matter?
Post by: Hypertrophy on May 06, 2019, 09:07:40 AM
Obviously, you have never participated in physical sports. Or if you have you probably sucked at it.

Never a strong argument when you have to appeal to power - “ so and so is a world champion and he does it”

In a past life I competed at national level in cycling. Beat a Pan American games gold medalist in a road race, was in the top 10 against Tour de France and World Championship medallists. And I found stretching to be of zero value. Tried it, did yoga a while, etc.

So to each his own. If you find it useful then do it. 
Title: Re: Does Stretching Really Matter?
Post by: Joe Valentino on May 06, 2019, 09:10:24 AM
LOL

MMA expert, protector of western freedoms, friend of Mark Furman, bum fighter and window air conditioning unit installer "Pellius" owned me.

Obviously this discussion was about the benefits of stretching for MMA competitions. When SF1900 posted his initial question I thought it was about lions, but thinking about it further I realize jungle cats are the originators of MMA. For them it's a way of life.

"Pellius" what is wrong with you?  You're very angry.

You act like you cant stand the members here yet you post every detail of your life on this board. You cant take a compliment nor a joke and in every discussion you act like you're the final authority on every matter. You insult everyone who disagrees or even questions you and then get upset because you end up getting lambasted for it.

Why do you post here, obviously by your tone and response the members here are far beneath you in status and intelligence, as it seems you really loathe this place?

Also kudos to you for living a "fantastic" and "amazing" life prior to getbig's existence but you need to realize you're just like the old bodybuilders Oldtimer1 refers to, they carry a crumpled picture of their former self in their wallet that they show everyone and continually refer to the past glory days.

You cant treat everyone like garbage and expect to be respected here.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Title: Re: Does Stretching Really Matter?
Post by: pellius on May 06, 2019, 07:55:46 PM
LOL

MMA expert, protector of western freedoms, friend of Mark Furman, bum fighter and window air conditioning unit installer "Pellius" owned me.

Obviously this discussion was about the benefits of stretching for MMA competitions. When SF1900 posted his initial question I thought it was about lions, but thinking about it further I realize jungle cats are the originators of MMA. For them it's a way of life.

"Pellius" what is wrong with you?  You're very angry.

You act like you cant stand the members here yet you post every detail of your life on this board. You cant take a compliment nor a joke and in every discussion you act like you're the final authority on every matter. You insult everyone who disagrees or even questions you and then get upset because you end up getting lambasted for it.

Why do you post here, obviously by your tone and response the members here are far beneath you in status and intelligence, as it seems you really loathe this place?

Also kudos to you for living a "fantastic" and "amazing" life prior to getbig's existence but you need to realize you're just like the old bodybuilders Oldtimer1 refers to, they carry a crumpled picture of their former self in their wallet that they show everyone and continually refer to the past glory days.

You cant treat everyone like garbage and expect to be respected here.

I can't stand morons like you that make retarded comments that make no sense.

Other than my DL I don't carry any photos.

Decent meltdown, though.
Title: Re: Does Stretching Really Matter?
Post by: pellius on May 06, 2019, 07:58:33 PM
Never a strong argument when you have to appeal to power - “ so and so is a world champion and he does it”

In a past life I competed at national level in cycling. Beat a Pan American games gold medalist in a road race, was in the top 10 against Tour de France and World Championship medallists. And I found stretching to be of zero value. Tried it, did yoga a while, etc.

So to each his own. If you find it useful then do it. 

Not so much in cycling. But as age takes its toll your lack of flexibility will impact virtually everything you do.
Title: Re: Does Stretching Really Matter?
Post by: Dave D on May 06, 2019, 08:07:56 PM
I can't stand morons like you that make retarded comments that make no sense.

Other than my DL I don't carry any photos.

Decent meltdown, though.

Good point "Pellius".

You post a legitimate response to Khan's sarcastic response about why stretching is worthless. Let's not forget that you even clicked on the thread in the first place.

You seem like you dont like anyone. One week you're posting about some homeless lady at a bus stop and then later about fighting a homeless guy and running from the cops.

I wasnt implying you carry an actual photo it was a metaphor. But you have a hard time deciphering what is being said on here peroid.

Good luck to you bro.
Title: Re: Does Stretching Really Matter?
Post by: Ropo on May 06, 2019, 11:59:57 PM
I have never seen a lion stretch, then immediately pounce on another animal. It's usually from stalking the prey, right to full on sprint. I have never seen a lion stalk a prey, stop to stretch, then spring toward the prey.  ??? ???

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/64/Lion_stretching_at_Ouwehands_2010.JPG)(https://shazaadkasmani.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/9f07f-dsc_7865.jpg)(https://hdwallpapers.cat/wallpaper/big-cat-stretch-stretching-lion-fallen-tree-AhRe.jpg)

Here you go  ;D Now you have seen it, watch and learn..

Title: Re: Does Stretching Really Matter?
Post by: pellius on May 07, 2019, 01:09:06 AM
Good point "Pellius".

You post a legitimate response to Khan's sarcastic response about why stretching is worthless. Let's not forget that you even clicked on the thread in the first place.

You seem like you dont like anyone. One week you're posting about some homeless lady at a bus stop and then later about fighting a homeless guy and running from the cops.

I wasnt implying you carry an actual photo it was a metaphor. But you have a hard time deciphering what is being said on here peroid.

Good luck to you bro.

Not sure about the point you're trying to make about me clicking on this thread. The topic interests me so I clicked on it.

I really don't understand much of what Khan's says. The pedantic vocabulary is a bit much for me. He's like the bber who always walks around in spandex shorts and a T-back tank top. We get it! You're jacked. Now put some clothes on and tone down the posturing. Except Khan does it on an intellectual level. We get it. You're educated and read a lot of books. I use to think it's just an act, and I still think it is on some level, but he never breaks character. He makes the late William F. Buckley seem like he's talking in Eubonics. It gets old. Just talk like a normal human being FFS.  

I never start shit with anyone. I only respond to it. Just like with conker. Just like with Basile. And now you. Before this thread, I didn't know who you are and never addressed you. Nothing about you stood out and you were just part of the GetBig background chatter. But apparently, you follow me very closely. You make reference to things I don't even remember (I mentioned about installing an air conditioner?) And now you make some snide nonsensical comment and, like the rest, whine when I come back in kind.

And loathe this place? I've been here for over a decade and have over ten thousand posts. I have mentioned countless times how unique this board is. It's ostensibly a bbing board but it far transcends that. I like OMR'S description that it's an "everything" board. No board comes close to the variety of topics discussed. This is a great board.
It's the gimmick and trolls that have gotten to me.  

It is true that I have many times mistaken sarcasm for insults and when pointed out I am quick to apologize. Much is lost in the written word where familiarity, tone, expression, and delivery can make all the difference.

And there are many here that I feel I know, like, and would love to meet irl. There are a few that I keep in regular contact with that posts on this board and that no longer post on this board.
Title: Re: Does Stretching Really Matter?
Post by: SF1900 on May 07, 2019, 03:16:22 AM
Lion's stretch all the time.

Incorrect.
Title: Re: Does Stretching Really Matter?
Post by: SF1900 on May 07, 2019, 03:20:26 AM
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/64/Lion_stretching_at_Ouwehands_2010.JPG)(https://shazaadkasmani.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/9f07f-dsc_7865.jpg)(https://hdwallpapers.cat/wallpaper/big-cat-stretch-stretching-lion-fallen-tree-AhRe.jpg)

Here you go  ;D Now you have seen it, watch and learn..



Photoshopped.
Title: Re: Does Stretching Really Matter?
Post by: IroNat on May 07, 2019, 04:13:18 AM
Obviously, you have never participated in physical sports. Or if you have you probably sucked at it. Try to do MMA, Jiu-Jitsu, gymnastics, Olympic Lifting, track and field, Muy Thai... without stretching and having above average flexibility.  

The general public won't appreciate this mount that BJ Penn got on Renzo Gracie. Virtually everybody throws their right leg up and over their opponent to get the mount position. But this leaves space so the opponent can prevent the mount by blocking with his knee putting it between him and the mounting leg. Sort of like doing a knee strike lying down. Though it looks easy only someone with the flexibility of a BJ Penn can literally slither his leg through Renzo's waistline leaving virtually no space for Renzo to defend.

You can be sure Penn spent a bit of time stretching during his MMA career.

Looks easy? You try it.

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/COd4P5Srl6o/hqdefault.jpg)

(https://cf.ltkcdn.net/cats/images/std/219188-509x339-Cat-bath.jpg)
Title: Re: Does Stretching Really Matter?
Post by: Dave D on May 07, 2019, 08:27:07 AM
Not sure about the point you're trying to make about me clicking on this thread. The topic interests me so I clicked on it.

I really don't understand much of what Khan's says. The pedantic vocabulary is a bit much for me. He's like the bber who always walks around in spandex shorts and a T-back tank top. We get it! You're jacked. Now put some clothes on and tone down the posturing. Except Khan does it on an intellectual level. We get it. You're educated and read a lot of books. I use to think it's just an act, and I still think it is on some level, but he never breaks character. He makes the late William F. Buckley seem like he's talking in Eubonics. It gets old. Just talk like a normal human being FFS.  

I never start shit with anyone. I only respond to it. Just like with conker. Just like with Basile. And now you. Before this thread, I didn't know who you are and never addressed you. Nothing about you stood out and you were just part of the GetBig background chatter. But apparently, you follow me very closely. You make reference to things I don't even remember (I mentioned about installing an air conditioner?) And now you make some snide nonsensical comment and, like the rest, whine when I come back in kind.

And loathe this place? I've been here for over a decade and have over ten thousand posts. I have mentioned countless times how unique this board is. It's ostensibly a bbing board but it far transcends that. I like OMR'S description that it's an "everything" board. No board comes close to the variety of topics discussed. This is a great board.
It's the gimmick and trolls that have gotten to me.  

It is true that I have many times mistaken sarcasm for insults and when pointed out I am quick to apologize. Much is lost in the written word where familiarity, tone, expression, and delivery can make all the difference.

And there are many here that I feel I know, like, and would love to meet irl. There are a few that I keep in regular contact with that posts on this board and that no longer post on this board.

You're right bro i'm a moron.

You respond to my picture analogy by saying you dont carry pictures and now you're referring to Khans posts as the equivalent to a scantily clad bodybuilder? Is this really happening?

I'm following you closely  ::), you a member with 10k posts, that has posted photo of himself and routinely posts details of his private life on a public forum. Thanks for clarifying my obsession for me.

And apparently you didn't create a thread about  installing an ac unit but it was about working in a hardware store in Hawaii learning new skills that you always wished you had. Maybe I lumped a story in with yours.  I'm a poor stalker.

You never start anything with anyone yet you insult Kahn, remember I commented on his post about your post, who wasnt addressing you at all. And when he did address you make a stupid comment about his baseball picture being from little league, a comment so dumb that it could have been made by the morons you so despise.

I'm sorry I upset you but as a moron I dont know any better.

Bro if you're trolling hats off to you,  because you're doing a fantastic job.

I realize arguing with you is futile.
Title: Re: Does Stretching Really Matter?
Post by: Joe Valentino on May 07, 2019, 08:39:32 AM
Not sure about the point you're trying to make about me clicking on this thread. The topic interests me so I clicked on it.

I really don't understand much of what Khan's says. The pedantic vocabulary is a bit much for me. He's like the bber who always walks around in spandex shorts and a T-back tank top. We get it! You're jacked. Now put some clothes on and tone down the posturing. Except Khan does it on an intellectual level. We get it. You're educated and read a lot of books. I use to think it's just an act, and I still think it is on some level, but he never breaks character. He makes the late William F. Buckley seem like he's talking in Eubonics. It gets old. Just talk like a normal human being FFS.  

I never start shit with anyone. I only respond to it. Just like with conker. Just like with Basile. And now you. Before this thread, I didn't know who you are and never addressed you. Nothing about you stood out and you were just part of the GetBig background chatter. But apparently, you follow me very closely. You make reference to things I don't even remember (I mentioned about installing an air conditioner?) And now you make some snide nonsensical comment and, like the rest, whine when I come back in kind.

And loathe this place? I've been here for over a decade and have over ten thousand posts. I have mentioned countless times how unique this board is. It's ostensibly a bbing board but it far transcends that. I like OMR'S description that it's an "everything" board. No board comes close to the variety of topics discussed. This is a great board.
It's the gimmick and trolls that have gotten to me.  

It is true that I have many times mistaken sarcasm for insults and when pointed out I am quick to apologize. Much is lost in the written word where familiarity, tone, expression, and delivery can make all the difference.

And there are many here that I feel I know, like, and would love to meet irl. There are a few that I keep in regular contact with that posts on this board and that no longer post on this board.

   
Title: Re: Does Stretching Really Matter?
Post by: pellius on May 07, 2019, 12:56:40 PM
You're right bro i'm a moron.

You respond to my picture analogy by saying you dont carry pictures and now you're referring to Khans posts as the equivalent to a scantily clad bodybuilder? Is this really happening?

I'm following you closely  ::), you a member with 10k posts, that has posted photo of himself and routinely posts details of his private life on a public forum. Thanks for clarifying my obsession for me.

And apparently you didn't create a thread about  installing an ac unit but it was about working in a hardware store in Hawaii learning new skills that you always wished you had. Maybe I lumped a story in with yours.  I'm a poor stalker.

You never start anything with anyone yet you insult Kahn, remember I commented on his post about your post, who wasnt addressing you at all. And when he did address you make a stupid comment about his baseball picture being from little league, a comment so dumb that it could have been made by the morons you so despise.

I'm sorry I upset you but as a moron, I don't know any better.

Bro if you're trolling hats off to you because you're doing a fantastic job.

I realize arguing with you is futile.

Yes, it's happening.

And I didn't say I never mentioned installing an a/c, just that I don't remember. Try to keep up.

Khan made a sarcastic and odd statement about stretching. Never quite sure how to take him. Looking back at my response I see it was a bit harsh and aggressive. I think it was the first time I've ever responded directly to him though he does stand out as one of the posters I do notice and makes an impression.

Referring to my success in little league, which diminished exponentially as I advanced through the ranks, in no way implies that I was referring to his pic as being from little league. I would think that would be obvious.

Resistance is futile.
Title: Re: Does Stretching Really Matter?
Post by: Joe Valentino on May 07, 2019, 01:07:30 PM
Yes, it's happening.

And I didn't say I never mentioned installing an a/c, just that I don't remember. Try to keep up.

Khan made a sarcastic and odd statement about stretching. Never quite sure how to take him. Looking back at my response I see it was a bit harsh and aggressive. I think it was the first time I've ever responded directly to him though he does stand out as one of the posters I do notice and makes an impression.

Referring to my success in little league, which diminished exponentially as I advanced through the ranks, in no way implies that I was referring to his pic as being from little league. I would think that would be obvious.

Resistance is futile.


2 QP with Cheese is impossible to Resist
Title: Re: Does Stretching Really Matter?
Post by: Dave D on May 07, 2019, 01:10:41 PM
Yes, it's happening.

And I didn't say I never mentioned installing an a/c, just that I don't remember. Try to keep up.

Khan made a sarcastic and odd statement about stretching. Never quite sure how to take him. Looking back at my response I see it was a bit harsh and aggressive. I think it was the first time I've ever responded directly to him though he does stand out as one of the posters I do notice and makes an impression.

Referring to my success in little league, which diminished exponentially as I advanced through the ranks, in no way implies that I was referring to his pic as being from little league. I would think that would be obvious.

Resistance is futile.


Yes i'm moron.

You've won.
Title: Re: Does Stretching Really Matter?
Post by: ratherbebig on May 07, 2019, 01:29:35 PM
if youre going to mcdonalds for a $1 burger, make sure you stretch, you never know when you need to kick somebody in the face.
Title: Re: Does Stretching Really Matter?
Post by: IroNat on May 07, 2019, 01:59:02 PM
if youre going to mcdonalds for a $1 burger, make sure you stretch, you never know when you need to kick somebody in the face.

Good point.
Title: Re: Does Stretching Really Matter?
Post by: IRON CROSS on May 07, 2019, 02:13:21 PM
if youre going to mcdonalds for a $1 burger, make sure you stretch, you never know when you need to kick somebody in the face.


Oh no, Wikipedia "expert" is back !.
Title: Re: Does Stretching Really Matter?
Post by: pellius on May 07, 2019, 05:34:38 PM
Yes i'm moron.

You've won.

Keep that in mind when you want to start shit with me as you did here.
Title: Re: Does Stretching Really Matter?
Post by: Dave D on May 07, 2019, 05:59:50 PM
Keep that in mind when you want to start shit with me as you did here.

Im a moron.

You've won.
Title: Re: Does Stretching Really Matter?
Post by: hipolito mejia on May 08, 2019, 04:34:57 AM
Never did a bit of stretching.

As a result,I have zero flexibility even when I was much younger.



This. 

When you're young who cares.  But ages will do anything to make moving withou pain a challenge. 
Title: Re: Does Stretching Really Matter?
Post by: ratherbebig on May 08, 2019, 11:36:19 AM
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT3udTOvp_CDDqEwMkXQQeOTCOkotL1Qz1mVHRzl4I29O59WynPUA)
Title: Re: Does Stretching Really Matter?
Post by: LittleJ on May 08, 2019, 02:20:03 PM
Yes